We'd be changing A LOT of rules if we simply looked at the shades of grey. Plenty of rules have been abused and plenty of rules will continue to be abused in the future. Focus on the grey and we might as well not have rules. Put me in the boat of clean across the board. You choose to stupidly give up your life then well, play stupid games and win stupid prizes, imo.

I think, personally, this is one of the greatest rule additions to DayZRP ever. Anyone who has played here long enough knows what is and what isn't reasonable demands. At this point, if they continue to try and be big 'ol billy badass against reasonable demands because of 'die die never comply', then they are going to get a big ol' slap of fuck you to their character. I think people will find out that there is a lot to gain from complying to certain situations now, and that roleplay on the hostile side is going to progress in a much cleaner way. At least, that's what should happen. People have not been giving a shit about their character for the longest of times. It's old. This gives you a very good reason to care about your character. Less people throwing in the sacrificial lamb to drop the initiation, more carefully planned out hostilities so that it doesn't appear that you aren't giving a shit about your character. Change nothing about this new rule addition. Let people adapt to giving a shit.

You haven't needed consequences for initiations for a while. If hostile intent is there, in this case, a demand and a raising of a weapon, then that is an initiation. It has been that way for a while now.

This is probably the best iteration of the rule I've seen so far. There is no reason to completely disallow ERP within the community, simply keep it contained to private communications like it should and allow people to do whatever the hell they wish OOC. I was getting ready to type something up, but I don't feel like I need to anymore with this.

No, I have not been on final, and I don't think that I will ever do anything to get myself on final, and my philosophy will always be that you probably shouldn't have done shit to get you there in the first place. The people on final earned that themselves. I'm sure not having to triple check everything that you do is pretty nice, but in the end, it was his actions that ultimately caused his downfall. Besides, there are people in this community that have always played by triple-checking what they do. If that is the case they are simply doing this whole thing wrong. When I say it's not just for the sake of being of final, I mean that I don't think he is trying to be here just to get off final and peace out. I'd imagine Dusty wants to be here to continue to play and participate in the community after he gets off final. In the end, if he simply resorts back to his "old ways" after he gets off final they'll just put him right back on final or send him to the shadowrealm anyways. I don't think that is his goal, is what I'm trying to get at.

I simply don't get that mentality, and that might just be me because I feel there are far worse (thinking of before amnesty) individuals that got their appeal accepted compared to you. I don't know what else to say. If you truly want to be here, I think you'll just keep on trucking and trying. I don't think you are trying to get off of final simply because for the sake of being off of final. So just keep on keeping on, I suppose. I truly want to see you get off of your amnesty final.

Well, that makes one person. Still not assed to do it, and even if I had a change of heart on that one and I agreed my opinion and your opinion doesn't mean shit in the grand scheme of things. At least, not in this situation. If he is dissatisfied with his appeal he can take it to Rolle or even Jim, and if they don't feel any differently there really isn't much more that can be done.

I don't have the time nor the care to go through all of Dusty's posts in the last little bit since his amnesty, so understand I'm simply commenting on what was posted in the verdict. One can still not break any rules, yet have an attitude problem. It's not hard to see snark and sass in a comment, and if the staff feels like he was still on that verge, so be it. Perhaps he should have less attitude in his posts? There really isn't much more to say than that. If the staff really had that much of a problem, perhaps they should have talked with him. No need to blow his caution over something that wasn't actually a rule break, so I can understand that not happening. Though at the same time, I also understand trying to leave the amnesty program on something that you have to overcome yourself. If you are leading someone in the right direction, as the staff, you are lining them up for easy success. Amnesty isn't exactly here to guarantee you get off of it, it's here to make sure you yourself change. As someone who has seen Dusty's posts from the past, there were plenty of situations where I have seen him come off as passive-aggressive. If his posts are still like this, I can understand why the staff team would be leary in letting him off amnesty based on that aspect alone. Not breaking rules isn't always good enough.

If people want to consent to that kinda stuff using third-party services, fine. Whatever. You are two consenting adults and you can do whatever the hell you want to do in private. Though the server currently doesn't have an age limit and watching that shit fly in a community in which exists those underage, it's just not simply right to allow sexual roleplay to be public, let alone the fact that people are going around raping people. That shit should not be public, period. If a rule needs to be added, so be it, because I understand - to a point - why some people can be afraid to say no, even if it is just a fucking video game. I personally think that rule 3.6 covers it enough to the point where we don't need a specific rule for it, but others feel differently. In the end, I'm for whatever gets RapeRP out of the public. People can do whatever the hell they want to do in private.

I'm pretty sure that you want to run a family saloon, not a salon. I can't picture this group running a salon. That would be kinda funny. Good luck with the group! JBG brings back some good ol' nostalgia.

Report the big dicking. Even more important, don't actually reply to the big dicking. People indirectly fuel the big dickers by replying to them. Just stop. Get a giggle, hit the report button, move on. Super simple.