Server and Location: Livonia, Section 20 Compound South of Zalesie
Approximate time and date of the incident: Server time I'm not sure (2:30? PM) , date is 3/2/2020
Your name in game: Amber Main
Name of Allies Involved: Myself
Name of Suspects: Noah Russo, Riggs Fuller, and another 5.0.3 member whose name I'm not sure of
Friendly/Enemy Vehicles: From my POV it looks like 503 captured a black olga.
Detailed Description of Events: So IC my character Amber went to sleep in the Section 20 compound after a previous raid attempt on 503 (this will come up soon). Most of us at the compound are in a discord that acts as a radio channel for characters to communicate and for players to chat OOC. I see IC messages that the compound gets attacked, And realistically Amber would wake up hearing all the commotion. I wake up in the warehouse in this video, only to find out that 503 has basically secured the place and killed a lot of people. I instantly get initiated on (I didn't think I was going to be initiated on so quickly or I would've already had my software up). The accused talk to Amber and try to pry information out of her, and she, fearing for her life, complies and tells them everything she knows. This intel isn't anything new to them, so they get angry. This is about when I start recording, and the rest is history. As you can see in the video, they clearly just lined up and shot her when she was complying in every way possible.
Their justification for this is their execution rights they believed they had on my character. I participated in the aforementioned raid on the prison (which is the reason they attack Section 20 in the first place). While I was there, I did not directly contribute to the death of any 503 member, therefore voiding their alleged execution rights. As seen in rule 4.6 shown below...
Execution rights are gained when a hostage taken has directly participated in or was directly responsible for the death of an ally. Multiple people who were with me on the prison raid can attest to the fact that I never actually killed a 503 member. I got killed by one in said incident, and fired back because he rushed in and started shooting me (which is all well and good). But because I didnt actually go on a rampage and kill or wound any of their members ( I was on the gate sawing team) , there were no execution rights in this situation, which is why this is invalid.
This judgement has been verified by an admin and if requested I will post proof of that, too.
You might be wondering, why am I pointing this out? I do not want to partake in this because I want someone to get banned. I'm doing this because this left a horrible taste in my mouth. I got on to roleplay, and was originally excited to be in a hostage situation. The last time I was in one, I personally enjoyed it a lot. But this felt very wrong. I didn't pose a threat to them, I didn't directly not comply. And in response I got my roleplay cut off, and essentially ruined. Afterwards, we talked about this in helpdesk and I originally said that I wasn't going to do this. I've changed my mind because it still doesn't sit right with me, to let something like this go by without at least being revealed to the community. I don't do this out of malicious intent, I do this because like I learned in another report against myself, I feel that rulebreaks should have actual consequences so people can learn better.
Started out with me being really skittish getting into my new character (which is a fat WIP), but evolved into a really cool confrontation. I loved the very emotional conversation we had @miss_natcula , and our characters making up is a wonderful start to Amber's redemption arc. Plus, featuring on the stream is also really fun!
I also really enjoyed the other people who were with Hilde, you know who you are . Sorry I'm not familiar with your forum tags or I'd mention you in this post. It's just honestly really great to follow the (mostly) natural flow of RP from a very tense situation into that of everyone caring for one another. It was way more than just "campfire rp" and I really enjoyed it. Thanks
Hope I'm not too late to this! I'm not the most experienced but I find that generally Zombies on Livonia are not too much of a problem as long as you're agile and have a decent melee weapon. Personally I learn to get very good at sneaking around, and often avoid 90% of the zombies that I find.
I'd agree, however, that they are a bit too powerful. One on one isn't a problem as some others in this thread have mentioned, but as soon as you have more than 2 on you it becomes a mess. There was this one time where I was trapped in a house and forced to load one bullet into the chamber of a Makarov PM at a time to kill all the zombies. It took me like, 15 minutes with two shots to the head to each of them. I thought it was funny but I understand the annoyance.
I advise possibly becoming more stealthy, like for example. Running/Jogging on roads and paved paths makes you a lot louder than moving on grass. I'm pretty sure that carrying a lot also adds to noise, but I'm not positive on that. Treat it like Assassin's Creed, minus the leaps of faith.
TL;DR, They aren't too bad, but they should not hit like heavyweight boxing champions and be a tad easier to kill. Stealth (unless in a situation where it isn't possible) is one of the best ways to avoid fighting as many of them as possible.
Really enjoyed the crazy situation today at the Hospital in Topolin, was of course terrifying but a nice change to what's been a mostly very quiet time for me here. Thanks to everyone there for providing all sorts of different RP and important character development for my own gal
Was actually my first real hostile situation that I was directly involved in, and I can see why it's so sought after. Looking forward to more
Link to the source of punishment (report/post):
I do not dispute the verdict involving BadRP, I know I broke that rule. But I do not believe that it was fair to consider that I was trolling. Yes I was disrupting the experience of those around me, but trolling is done by people with malicious intent. I had none. While I doubtlessly bothered the people present in the report, everyone I've ever seen trolling was very deliberate about it. I argue that what I did was anything but deliberate/malicious. I was trying to be silly, and in doing so I broke the rules. I never wanted to actually upset anyone.
Additional statements/comments explaining your point of view: There are also some things in the reasoning of the verdict that do not make sense to me. "You had absolutely no interest whatsoever in listening, instead you caused the most disruption as possible with the excessive use of the // prefix, sneezing, attempting to get everyone sick and then afterwards asking for medicine when you supposedly are not there. This is not acceptable and we don’t even know why you would think this would be allowed." As I tried to explain in my POV, I was very interested in what everyone was talking about, which is why I broke the rules and was out there in the first place. I also tried to explain that I was not the only one sick, and that I was not trying to spread it to everyone at all. While at the bottom line I wasn't supposed to be there (which I agree with), I was not trolling in any sense of the word. If I was really trolling, where's my motive to do so? I have none, and it's just not what I was doing.
What would you like to achieve with this appeal: I am hoping to get the trolling verdict taken off of me, which means a lighter ban and less points.
What could you have done better?: I could have been a lot more aware of the fact that what I was doing was against the rules, and I could've kept myself much more refreshed with the rules than I have.
One thing I would like to make clear out of all of this, that I am not lying and doing anything I can to try not to be in trouble. I genuinely feel really bad that I did break a rule. While I got Emerald, I'm still a very new player to the server and all I've tried to do is have good RP with others. Thank you.
I'd like to start by admitting that yeah I messed up there. It was pretty clearly a rule-break and I thought about it in the back of my head but still, I just wanted to listen to their conversation. But I need to start a bit before the video to explain better.
So previously, I'm not sure if @Anipuma , @miss_natcula , or @Aldemir , were at the fire-station yet, but Amber was inside being operated on by a doctor named James Sepher (I dont know his forum tag). She's been heavily injured for some time, and actually almost died a few days back. The doctor gave her anesthetic to sedate her so IC I was knocked out. After the operation finished OP and I think Chris B. show up and peep in from the outside window. The doctor and them engage in some conversation and OP says something in voice along the lines of "I wonder if maybe they're removing the can opener." My OOC chat in all caps was because I found that quite funny. Op and Chris B. @Combi leave, and Amber is left for a little while. She's IC knocked out.
I figured that there were people visiting, as at the time I didn't recognize OP. This is where I make my first mistake. I get restless and jump up OOC when realistically Amber was still knocked out (if I even remember that scenario correctly). I initially was wandering around a little, hanging out in a discord chat, before I see a group of players outside the building all in a circle next to a flatbed, just like in OP's video. I walk up OOC, missing a jacket but still wearing most of my clothes.
I understand the frustration there. I fully admit that it was my mistake that I was out there in the first place. My reasoning for this is because I've not seen so many people gathered in one place and my curiosity took priority over obeying the rules.
All of us at the fire station have been dealing with the cold being spread around, I was not the only one sick, but yes I do apologize for that. I don't know if Anipuma or Miss Natcula became sick as a result, but judging by your video at the end of it you still weren't sick. Most of the guys living here at the station have been sick for some time, and got me sick when I arrived too. While it could have came from me, it's just as likely that it could've came from them too. Of course, that doesn't absolve me of my mistakes.
I agree that this is bad from my end. The only reason I moved closer from behind the truck is because Chris K. (The guy wearing the black gas mask) @Havikar was either using whisper or being muffled by that mask. I was missing part of the conversation and wanted to hear better, and I was messing with him which I shouldn't have done which makes you completely correct in that it was disruptive. More on me wanting to hear the conversation in a second.
This is yet another mistake of mine, I wasn't doing it to purposely be disruptive. I just wasn't thinking about it like I should have been.
I didn't eavesdrop IC because Amber was still knocked out. I should've stayed away but like I mentioned above, I was far too curious. Especially when you guys started talking about Khaled, it peaked my interest. I don't think it's metagaming though because I'm not acting off of anything I heard. The conversation never once touched on Amber herself, from what I recall, and the video itself. I realize now that it's a mistake for me to be there at all though.
After the group left in the flatbed, I returned to the room that Amber actually was in ICly, and continued to RP as if I wasn't there for any of that.
Overall, I understand completely that I have broken a rule and I will admit that. I am sorry, because I hate to disrupt RP, disappoint anyone, and generally detract from the experience on DayZRP. Believe me when I say that no matter the punishment I receive, that I will never be doing this again. Thank you, and I can answer any questions anyone has to the best of my ability.