Server and location: S2:Topolin
Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 2020-04-09, 11:30
Your in game name: Kia Blackwood
Names of allies involved: Kyro Zen
Name of suspect/s: Hector(ic name)(i think YAKMOUTH is his forum name)
Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): N/A
Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): microphone not working, can upload what happened earlier, and in better quality. I will just have huge render and upload times
POV update: "Kyro Zen, a friend who is new to the server, and me were going around Topolin. We were looting and had been talking to coalition at the police station. We then went around and checked out a interesting base on the train bridge. we then get a horde of zombies chasing us up the hill after shooting. We get separated and during the horde, I see a person at the bottom of the hill, who i thought was kyro, and wave at them, then realise that its not kyro. I see a second one walking with him, the look like they are walking away from us, I look away as i continue to look for Kyro, I tell him to meet me at a barn at the top of the hill. We both head there and once we meet I realise that the two other people had turned and started to walk towards us. I tell my friend to lay down, as we had gillies on. I wanted to act weird as my character is weird. i start of by saying you cant see me in a playful manner. they approach us and start talking to us, and asking us our names. I realise that I know hector, having spoken to him once when i was with my group, cause of his unique voice, I start telling him about i was forgotten mountain. then they tell me to put my hands up. They then walk us to the barn where I tell them, they should not hurt us cause i am part of forgotten mountain, and that he is even friends with people in my group. I then start trying to work it out, because i had been friendly with the group in the town that supposedly accused us of stuff. I then tell them I wanted to cross the bridge, because the base blocked the entire bridge. Later Deacon one of the senior members of my group comes in and accuses me of working with a hostile group, when he knew i had fought with him against them the day before. The conversation continues me trying to explain the confusion, away, deacon and hector would not accept it. Deacon ended up cutting two of my toes off, before leaving. Then hector talks a bit more, then brings up that i said not to hurt me cause i am part of forgotten mountain, and he’s friends with us. I say sorry repeatedly, before he ends up executing me." (So even the "threat" i made wasn’t even a threat in the first place, and there was no way it could be perceived as a threat since one of the senior members of my group was sectioning this action. So to my knowledge and hectors there would be no repercussions)
We got taken hostage and then excuted for no valid reason, under rules
4.6 If you successfully capture a player through a hostile action and then take him into your custody, he is now considered your hostage. You must do everything in your power to keep your hostages alive and in a relatively good health. That includes protecting them from external threats like zombies and leaving them with a realistic chance of survival when they are released. A character that is taken hostage may be executed once for a hostile incident that happened in the past where the hostage was personally responsible for a death of your ally. In any other circumstances, hostages may only be executed in the following scenarios:
Hostages do not comply with your demands after repeated requests or try to escape.
Hostages pose a direct threat to you or your group, for example by picking up a weapon when not allowed to.
Hostages do not value their life, for example they repeatedly talk back or insult you despite being told to stop.
Approved group of the hostage or their allies refuse to negotiate or open fire on hostage takers.
Demands from negotiations with approved group of the hostage have not been met after a reasonable time has elapsed.
Edit. I would also like to add that having us strip naked was not exactly great RP. Next time Hector could you just hand cuff and take what you want off the person.
Link to the source of punishment (report/post):
Why the verdict is not fair: I do agree that i was wrong in the situation. But part of the punishment, permakilling my character (Shane Smith), is too harsh.
Additional statements/comments explaining your point of view: In the moment when I attempted to fight my way out of the situation, I thought it was a good idea. But it is clear not to me and everyone in the report, this was a horrible decision. This is the first time I have every disobeyed the initial demand of an aggressor. In every other similar situation like this i have roleplayed it out, I had always begged for my life offering to do anything to keep it. I have also never received a report before this time, you can see from this that I am no repeat offender. I spoke Derek Steel after the report was signed off on, to get a greater understanding what I did wrong to ensure I never do it again. I understand I had done something wrong and asked if it was possible for me to take a 7 day ban instead of a character permadeath, which sadly wasn’t possible.
What would you like to achieve with this appeal: I would like my character un-permakilled, I want this as I have invested a lot of time into developing him into something unique. He is also a crucial part in the roleplay between the groups The Runners and the 503. I still believe I need a punishment, but to permakill this character to me is almost as harsh a punishment as a permaban.
What could you have done better?: I could have complied with their demands, and roleplayed the situation out. I should have not been so reluctant to roleplay with them and put more effort into the situation myself.
I was running to the new location of my group, I was about to reach the Solnichny Factory when the game crashed. When I log back in I see a bunch of people running down the road towards me with there guns out (Not included in video but i can upload it if i need to). I was worried that this maybe a bandit group, because most friendly people i have met keep there guns on their backs until they need them. In a split second judgement i decided that it is in my best interest not to go towards the people with there guns out. So i run into the woods of Solnichny Factory. They pursue me with there guns still out, which further confirmed my suspicions. I though i had made it away when one of them catches up to me, and two more of them join him (I saw people on the road, i noted more than one but i wasn’t waiting around to count). They then keep following me as i back up along this field. IC I was afraid of running into anyone I did not know as I had just knocked out (killed) the two leaders of 503 the day before, and had received threats from the group.
When I was initiated i had Line of sight on two of them, and assumed that they were the only two that could see me. To my knowledge at the time there was only 3 of them. I thought i would be able to take the 2 initial fire before the 3rd would get a shot on me. My video, and the logs show this, I actual thought i got the first one, when i started to fire at the second. Obviously it didn’t work out this way, but to me at the time, handing myself over to a group that was clearly hostile and the potential of having a bounty on my from the 503 it seemed like the best choice.
4.1 All initiations and hostile actions as well as their demands and conditions must be made clear and unambiguous to all involved players. Hostile actions or initiations must be done personally and on specific targets who must be aware who the attacker is, for example they cannot be done remotely through radio or PA system.
I was under the impression meant it would not be a valid inition. Which I still wasn't sure as John does try and trick me and other sometimes. As for aiming my gun, I was using it to see at a distance, which you were doing the samething. When ever I have been in a situation I have had clear instructions given personal to me. I assumed this was because it was the only way allowed under these rules. Everytime I have been attacked I have complied as I was able to because I personally hear the initiation and demands.
This situation seems messy to me, that is why I am creating this report. To my understandings I wasn't initiated on and that is why i didn't fire and I thought I wouldn't be shot at too.
Server and location: S1: fields above lopatino
Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 2019-09-07, 13:45
Your in game name: Shane Smith
Names of allies involved: Kevin shock, Martha Woods, John Oakwood, (I think more runners got involved later)
Name of suspect/s: ItsChocolateMan, he had two mates not sure who they were (logs?)
Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): N/A
Additional evidence? (video/screenshot):
Detailed description of the events: After Kevin shock had a run in with some churno-russians and we had to go give him medical help. We started making our way back to lopatino, just above the town in the fields there were 3 people running towards us. They spoke to the other 3 people in my group and then we started continuing our way. they then huddled in a group and shortly after started following us. I started to run away confused what was happening, then I start hearing John say help. I start trying to tell my group where we are. It wasn’t clear what was happening, no shots had been fired so I didn’t want to shot anyone because I was unaware there had been an initiation, or if it was some joking around.
In the rules it says
"4.1 All initiations and hostile actions as well as their demands and conditions must be made clear and unambiguous to all involved players. Hostile actions or initiations must be done personally and on specific targets who must be aware who the attacker is..."
I don’t feel this was done, I did not hear any initiation.
Server and location: S1- Novy summer camp
Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 2019-09-01, 00:03
Your in game name: Shane Smith
Names of allies involved: N/A
Name of suspect/s: Unknown
Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): N/A
Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): At 0:32 seconds is when i step on the bear trap.
Detailed description of the events: I was looting in Novy summer camp, when I went into one of the bunk houses. The bunk house had a bear trap placed and armed behind the closed door. I didn’t see it when I opened the door and stepped on it. There was no way someone had placed that for me as I had just got on today and have not interacted with another person yet.
*Shane presses the PTT button on his radio*
Hello, any Runners out there. Come quick to your compound something has happened. I cant give details, I dont know who else is listening. Uh, I am Shane the guy with the pink hat that was trading and couldn't make up my mind what I wanted.
*Shane releases the button letting out a sigh*
There is an easy way to end this. Jordan Jones (Sh4Wzy) and Morgan Jones (pk_cooler) are both guilty of Invalid Kill - on sight or Invalid kill - firefight.
But if members of the group you were meant to be fighting did not fight I am assuming it is not a firefight so the former rule break is more likely.
They said sinners were going to die, i was there when they said that and they didnt kill me. They did not direct an initiation at anyone. It was just meant to make them seem threatening. You could have spoken to them like I did rather then shooting me and others.
I am fine with it been closed with no punishment. It seems like an accedient and with them having so many hours on the servers I doubt they have been doing this commonly. I feel that they need to be more careful as it was actual just a fun fist fight. RIP Smersh vest from 2018 to 2018. : P
*As John reaches the top of a small ladder he looks down at the horde of zombies that come for him. He does the only thing he an think of and pulls out his radio*
To anyone that can hear me, My name is John Blackwood I am stuck on a top of a bunker in the military compound near Myshinko. Please help me there is to many of them!
*John then sits down above the growling horde and hopes someone heard him*