You work was respected. You told it how it was, stood up for your beliefs and contributed an insane amount towards the community. Even stepping up to me when I was pissed... I respected it. You were what an admin should be. Your step down is a huge loss for this community.
I ain't posted anything in a while, fact is I just stopped caring, too many things have just not met my personal standards and I can't bring myself to accept it. But what I've heard of recently absolutely takes the fuckery cake to a whole new level.
So let me see if I understand this correctly. A bunch of people don't trust another bunch of people due to conflicting histories . They want a nice simple little wedding and the main thing they don't want in this wedding is someone to come and fuck it up like so many incidents in the past involving the whipping out of big dicks, because clearly those appendages just need to be seen and hey I can get that, you're drained, you've seen too much dick... the last thing you want is streakers at a wedding. So they get up and go somewhere where they know these offenders of decency will not be. They don't make a big deal about it, no advertisements, it should all go swell.
But the other side finds out and doesn't like that at all, after all their dick just has to be seen. How could anyone not appreciate the flaunting of their RP murder worm? This clearly offends them. I mean straight up cock block at such a grandiose stage to present themselves...it must be punished!
Fast forward to the event and was it a happy ever after? Fuck no... there's a penis shaped imprint in the wedding cake, Humpy McGee is pogoing around the dance floor on his swollen man sized balls, the fuckin priest has be KOS'd and the cameraman's thinking he's about to make bank on America's top home videos.
Lets get serious now. A lot of these people don't like those other people due to broken trust, bad experiences and a history of disappointment. They wanted something away from you. It wouldn't effect you, it wouldn't be detrimental to your story or your IC... but that wasn't good enough, you had to go and fuck it up anyway. You literally stalked them like a creeper, found out where they were, tracked them down and sabotaged their little personal event, only further proving every god damned clause they had to distrust you in the first place. You had absolutely zero reason to do this, but you did it anyway out of spite and even worse, you put up a report... a ridiculous laughable report to try and further hurt them. You disgust me. What you did was petty, childish, spiteful, immature (I mean why go to such a god damned effort?) and above all else wrong. And you wonder why they don't like you? But you won't learn from this because you're stuck in your own little bubble, trapped in the realm of your own opinion and are so selfish you can't see it being any other way than your way because you're so damned used to getting it as you play to big group pvp mechanics and rule walls instead of doing what truly makes a great RP'er and that's giving a damn about the experience of those you RP with opposed to just your own make believe IC dick size. I am already done... I was done long before this when quality hostile RP ended up being shackled into the ground. I know it's because certain others pissed all over what hostile RP is by getting into massive pvp focused groups and kill thrilling all over the map, but then rules where made that hurt hostile RP as a whole in a general sense, tarnishing the setting of post apoc instead of focusing on the issue to kill thrill enthusiasts instead. But there's good folk out there that have to sit through this side show still... and it ain't right. So there's yet another person saying the same damn thing... not that it'll matter, after all we're a little too used to talking to brick walls.
@Oliv As I do with yours, but how often has a situation came up where people are generally unhappy with it, to either have it silenced or penalised? You say stoop to that level and I can see where you're coming from, but to have all other levels shunned, ignored and generally not given a damn about... it tends to piss people off. People didn't like the new rule set, they out cried heavy... result, nothing. People thought one side of RP was being persecuted, they cried out... result, nothing. One side of an RP player base cries about a couple things and the entire other half gets punished... we complain... nothing! Example example, I could go on and on. And I know this isn't on you. When you work within a system that an entire staff team can more or less be over ruled, it's not a working system at all and you have to defend it. All we see is that report and these actions being defended and now we're pissed again. Not just the people involved, but friends of those people. People who are sick of the same old shit. And I know you have to defend, I know you have to tell me how it is... and I respect you for doing it, but it doesn't change a damn thing about what I said, because whether I say it or not... we all know it. That's why the servers in the state that it's in... not a patch.
@Oliv I was mistaken about the nature of this site. I was under the impression that dicks out was suppose to be what we did on the forums, seeing as how Rolle constantly uses his to smack people in the face. Regardless of the logic or wants of his staff and community. So how can you get upset when others imitate what they see done by him?
You see, this site is a business. We can call it a community or whatever, but ultimately, Rolle treats it like a business- and he's a shit CEO. He ignores his stock holders and acts contrary to the better interest of them for his own selfish gain. If this was a proper business, he would have been voted out a while ago.
Eagle, I can think of many a poll that's went up and got denied that says otherwise.
And Oliv... true. I ain't gonna deny the segregation in the community itself. I hate it, but it's there. People shouldn't have to go server hopping or hide in woods and other people shouldn't have to trail the map just to find folk. All in all, it's all a frickin mess... and I honestly don't have an answer for that.
@Lori We are not stockholders but donors more of the less we signed no agreements since we can leave when we want, we own nothing in this place sure we play here but if the CEO feels things need to change then he can do so, nothing we can do about it.
Polls have always been like that. Seems to me that when this side gets pinned against a wall everyone freaks out but when the other side gets the same treatment its seen as just and fair. Like I said before whining about it does nothing, believe me, I tried. Like Oliv said no one is an angle here.
All I can say is look at the server population, it says it all. 19 out of 60, I don't care what night it is, before things were like this there were 2-3 servers PACKED, now it's one server that has been under 20 players anytime I have checked it. Opinions are like assholes everyone have one and most of them stink, but look at the facts and you'll see, it's been on a decline for a while now, and like Tony said, it's not a patch that has forced so many away.
@Eagle I've thought about that and you're right. The other side has been persecuted heavily after a few people cried about some boo boo's, but as a result of that all sides got punished for it. I love hostile RP and so do a lot of people I am friends with and our RP got effected by it. The shackles on hostile RP got threw on everyone and now we have a system which allows people to protect their canned beans unless someone actively goes on a phone to make sure the intended victim is okay with being in a hostile environment... in a post apocalyptic RP simulator. That's... a damn punch line in and of itself.
It's fell into the trap... to have hostile interactions you first must have a history of hostile interactions, but how do you get hostile history without hostile interactions and bleeeergh.... it's a mess, or was the last time I checked. That's where I was when I decided I wasn't logging in any more. And now we have virtually no decent unplanned hostile RP left and those that try to go organic find themselves dancing around rules trying to goad folk into giving them a reason to be hostile... it's sloppy, again it's a mess... but it's outside their control with the restrictions in place.
And people blame each side, when that isn't the problem. Amazingly you'll find when people complained about this, there was overwhelming support against the rule set from nearly everyone. I was proud of us, we all came together... and got denied. I may be pissed at this little tiny snippet of what's going on right now, but you'll find when this went down I was very vocal and in support of the other side because honestly I don't see an other side. Hostile, campfire... it's all RP... all of it.
Chewing at each other isn't going to change things. And the thing is, I know past staff and current have been avidly against a lot of the goings on and got denied regardless. So that to me says they're not the problem. I respect what's been built, I respect what's been maintained... but these days... it's not the same place, not even close.
Let me get this straight... I understand having grievances with a group, but waiting patiently like a rat in the night until all said members of that group are offline, effectively using OOC means to gain In Game advantage (This is a form of metagaming btw and game exploitation) just so you can trash their immersive camp by despawning everything, for OOC grievance reasons and you think that's okay?
Just because the exact words 'Don't wait until everyone's offline and trash the RP spots' are not jotted down in the rules, you think this is good RP conduct? I don't wanna state the obvious here but...
5.3You may not focus on out of character gains to the detriment of RP. "Rule play" is prioritizing kill rights, rules or OOC information above more appropriate IC actions or behavior. Always prioritize role play over rule play.
This is the exact definition of focusing on OOC gains, but the only thing gained is knowing you've upset people OOC'ly. The most fundamental rule of any roleplay environment is that OOC stays OOC and IC stays IC. A violation of this is the absolute worst form of RP conduct there is.
Now I expect to see KOS, I expect to see NVFL and I expect to see some flaming. These things just happen, people make mistakes in the heat of the moment. What I do not expect to see is people purposely deciding they're going to be shitty, for any reason at all, especially an OOC reason based on IC in game actions. Bad form!
It's the little things you have to look out for. Got this chick on social media. Prejudice, bigoted, homophobic and very outlandish with sharing those beliefs. I usually ignore everything she posts.
Today was different. Someone lashed out at her with 'u r stupid' so already you know we're in for a battle of the minds here. So she screenshots her witty retort for all to see, clearly proud of it... being 'your*'. My troll boner was thus stimulated....
I dunno what exactly was posted regarding cancer and families, but I'll tell ya this. You don't fucking call peoples bluff on this shit. Ever been that backed into a corner before that ya felt you had to make a real STUPID decision?