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  1. Pipo

    Lack of RP / KoS

    Yes, sorry for that, I just want to add (and know) something : "Those who control the freedom of their victim(s) must do everything in their power to keep their victim(s) alive and in relatively good health" This is a quote from rules. Taking into account the fact my guns were down and my hands were up, we can relatively say that my freedom wasn't mine anymore. I just have one question, is it allowed or not to shoot at someone when these conditions are met (even if he refuses to remove his pants), and most likely when you have handcuffs on you? This is more like a question to the ones who manage the rules. The answer would be quite useful to me or any others in the same situation.
  2. Pipo

    Lack of RP / KoS

    The report is about the whole event. The fact that you shot because i refused to remove my pants, the fact that you shot while i was surrendering (putting my hands up, i mean), and now the fact that you shot when you knew you had handcuffs, that my hands were up, and you could do quite a lot of things to prevent me from dying, while staying, for you both, safe. Once more, i heard only 2 countdowns, the violence of the situation might have troubled my mind, sorry about that. But no, you asked me to remove my stuff step by step and that's why you had to do "several countdowns" as you say, David Edman never pointed out "including your pants" in first countdown for 2 reasons, you asked me to put my guns down first, then, he had no reason to be cautious about anything since i just started to do what you asked. However this is pointless to argue about the countdowns since there is no videos. All I say is that you shot at me and you could avoid it. So, your request was, to me, not OK, as i was cooperating and you had handcuffs, you could easily check what i had in my pants. ("You could have had weapons in your pockets and we didn’t want to waste a pair of handcuffs as we didn’t have any keys to unlock them with." I'm sorry i don't get that point, how does the fact of not having keys can give you the right not to "waste" handcuffs? You can use duct tape and then cut it with hacksaw or whatever else...)
  3. Pipo

    Lack of RP / KoS

    The point is, that you pretend I was sitting down when you took the shot, which isn't true. About the countdowns I clearly heard only 2, the first one you asked me to remove my guns, the second you asked me to remove my clothes and axe. I think i followed your orders quite clearly except for the pants. I even crouched with hands on my head, if that isn't a sign of cooperation, then I don't know what it is. All my guns were on the floor, only my pants remained on me. I had nothing in my hand and since you were 2 that was quite easy to come closer and handcuff me. That's probably my bad if you didn't hear me, but as I acted, I don't know how else than cooperative I could have look. If I kept my gun in my hands, i'd understand a shot would be recquired, but my pants, my pants... ("Leave the victim(s) with a realistic chance of survival.") The facts are here, sorry that I have no evidence or anyone involved with me. That is, for me, some sort of free shot you took, but it's not up to me to judge it.
  4. Server and location: S1 Stary Sobor Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 19:30 09/15/15 Daytime or Night-time: Day Your in game name: Benoit Simon Names of allies involved: Not used Name/Skin of suspect/s: Adam Cobb and another one (grey helmet, black vest, green pants) Suspects weapon/s: Shotguns and Rifle Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): Not used Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): Not used Detailed description of the events: I was walking in Stary Sobor when i first met one guy, he didn't talk and walked away, so, i decided to run by the opposite side. I stopped at the entrance of the town when he came back and asked me for a trade, while a friend of him was coming from my back. The second guy came close enough to aim at me with his shotguns. They both started threatening me with their weapons, asking me to drop my guns, counting down from 5 : I did. They then asked me to remove my stuff, my bag, my axe, my clothes, i did remove everything but the pants saying i had my dignity and i wouldn't, i then did put my hands up, ready to cooperate. The other one was still counting down as i repeated i wouldn't remove it. At 0 he shot at me and i died. (I listened to most of yours videos Q&A on youtube and I'm pretty sure you somewhere said refusing to remove pants isn't a reason enough to decide to shot at someone, mostly when he's putting his hands up and when you can handcuff him).