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  1. The Forsaken

    I honestly can't remember you, sorry to say. Dunno when you and I ever met and disagreed about anything. @Blackburn wanna weigh in on the status of your OP and activity?
  2. The Forsaken

    Wow. Honestly shocked this got made official, regardless of my personal opinions about these guys. The "theme song" of cringe is not actually in the spoiler. The "IN CHARACTER" header from the goals section is inexplicably in the LORE spoiler. The "OBJECTIVES" header is listed twice, after the roster. The recruitment spoiler is listed above "FIND YOUR BROTHERS." The OP is a mess, was never updated except to reflect the changes to the roster. This should have remained an ideas thread. @Major, c'mon bud, please.
  3. The Forsaken

    @snfsylva they are trying to play as a weird in-between of soldiers and survivalists. The way they explained it to me, they're tired of NATO (specifically me, even though I was never technically IC'ly in command of the group, thanks to their selective rewriting of their characters to make their ranks higher than me). However, they're not quite ready to give up the sense of duty that being a servicemen instills in you. Idk why they're doing a CP for a group they've been clear is only meant to be temporary. Their real goals are thus: Find Reynolds and Banks because we OOC dislike them and want to target their characters Try to find more people to join us Be heroes, despite raiding, looting, and shooting civilians Work with a militia............................................................................ Survive Nothing is unique, except that they want to target two people who used to run their prior group. If they really want to keep RP'ing as NATO, fuck it, let 'em do it. I think they should remain dynamic, though.
  4. Safe Zone Trial

    Meh, works for me. I think most survivors would want to give Ground Zero a wide berth, considering they don't have an adequate understanding of radiation. I know I won't be going near there IC'ly.
  5. Safe Zone Trial

    @Rolle can the location be negotiable? This Safe Zone is dangerously close to Ground Zero, which through your approved lore is heavily irradiated and was classified as a general no-go zone. There's plenty of other decent options for a Safe Zone, but I think you should consider moving it given the official canon of this lore.
  6. Al-Takhari Mujahideen

    Cool, cool. To clarify, From the sound of it, you opposed the Socialists then? Would make sense, as you continued to resist them into the 21st century and they were very secular in their governing system. So for the transnational part, would it be fair to say you're more like Al Shabaab or Boko Haram? Both supported and were affiliated with AQ, but both physically operated in their respective areas. As for the RP, yeah didn't want to push it. But now maybe some people are letting the idea bounce around in their heads a bit. Expanding the Caliphate now definitely puts you in the transnational sphere, so I'm interested to see where it goes from here.
  7. Al-Takhari Mujahideen

    Hello, hello. Wanted to provide some actual feedback on the lore of the group, as well as ask some questions for your RP intentions. I like the backstory here. Seems very Taliban-esque. A tribe or ethnic group with heavily nationalistic and tribalistic upbringings. Had a couple questions about the part I didn't snip: Did you guys take a side in the Takistani coup of 1988? Royalists were supported by the West, Socialists were supported by the USSR. For historical context, the Afghan mujahedeen (very religious) were supported by the US, whereas the government was supported by the USSR. Did you target civilians and make a public spectacle of the attack, making it stand out? In 1989, there was still a significant power struggle going on in Takistan, so your attacks were probably unnoticed and you wouldn't have been labeled a terrorist group until later. Where was the Western influence? Recall that in 1992, the Socialists won the civil war against the US-backed Royalists. They had a strong connection to the USSR, and later Russia. There wasn't much Western influence in Takistan until much later, in 2009. Don't have really any questions with this section. I would only recommend that you move the note about attacking western convoys and stuff to this section, because the West wasn't really present in Takistan until around 2009. It would make perfect sense that in the years since 1989, you became something like the Taliban, controlling illicit trade and smuggling through the country and used that revenue to claim a territory where you could practice extremist tenets without the interference of the Socialist government (which would be heavily opposed to you). A couple questions about these parts: Is the infection where you transitioned into a transnational organization? Prior to this, there was no indication that you were similar to Al Qaeda or ISIS. In fact, you seemed much more similar to groups like the PKK or the Taliban. What I mean by this is that ideologically, organizations like AQ are often focused on spreading their bastardization of Islam across the globe, whereas organizations like the Taliban are much more concerned with domestic issues and don't have an interest in attacking people outside their perceived borders. Will any of your members become infected? I ask because it would be a really, really interesting way to drive internal RP for you. You believe that only nonbelievers or non-devout Muslims can be infected, so I'm wondering if any of you have plans to get infected and force a wedge between those who truly believe that the infection is Allah's will, and those who recognize that perhaps it's really just going to get everyone. Just think that is a cool option for you. Just a few nitpicky things that can help tidy it up: These all seem more like objectives, less like laws. I know it's small, but perhaps consider having someone revisit the graphics? No big deal either way. Expanding the Caliphate... so this is where I have a concern. Like I mentioned before, this organization seems much more like a tribal group that cares more about helping those back in Takistan. They have shown very little initiative to become a transnational organization like AQ or ISIS. Since you're so much more like the Taliban, and since you have the capability to cross back into Takistan using your smuggling routes, I just think it makes more sense for you to not have this kind of an aspiration. If you do have those intentions, I would recommend making it a bit more clear in the lore, as well as trying to set up a stronghold for your forces, if you haven't already. Change the last one to read: "Enforce Al-Takhari's vision of true Islam" because 'the Al-' is redundant. All in all, I think this looks good and can't wait to see you all IG. My PC is finally working again, but I have to reinstall everything. So please don't disappear before my Steam and DayZ are up and running
  8. The Forsaken

    If you're former NATO soldiers, how are you trying to act as a military justice authority? You have no jurisdiction to try me or Banks for anything. Hell your name implies you're all in dereliction, so how can you try me for assertion? It's obvious from reading the comments that have been left that your IC targeting of my character is a result of OOC salt toward my leadership and me personally. Just take Castle's repeated attempts at calling me a meme as evidence of that. Considering there's no reason for you too be trying me ICly, because none of you are no MPs, none of you are in my CoC, and none of you are actually RPing that you're in NATO anymore, I'd appreciate it if that was removed as a goal. It's just targeting someone and is definitely something you should have reached out about before you made the thread. To be clear, when I said "you" I meant the collective you as a group, wasn't talking about you specifically. Lastly, if this isn't a rehash, why are you following the same rank structure from my group, especially if this isn't NATO and you're all former? Everyone look out, actual criticism inbound: You should try to rebrand as something more clearly in dereliction, as your name implies. From a first pass at the lore, the graphics, and the IC and OOC goals, it looks like you're trying to be a military group without being a military group. First, it causes confusion for people like me and a lot of others. Second, if you revise your lore to be less military and about UCMJ, then you can try to pull off a paramilitary group. Write more clearly in the lore that you're former NATO servicemen in dereliction, adjust the IC and OOC goals to reflect a non-milsim group, and alter the rank structure accordingly. If you had PM'ed me, I'd have been more than happy to make the group thread be more in line with what is apparent that you're trying to accomplish. You guys may not like me, but at the here minimum you should have PM'ed me to let me know that coming after me was a goal, because that's a huge sub @
  9. The Forsaken

    You told me that they weren't going to make a NATO group, but it's so clear. Their graphics are obviously NATO.
  10. The Forsaken

    Major, I'd have been glad to take this to PMs if they reached out beforehand. As the OP for NATO, because you know I did a lot of writing for that group, I'm going to ask that this thread be archived because it's clearly a rehash. The lore explicitly mentions my group as it's basis and it keeps basically everything, including the desire to RP out military justice. They're clearly trying to be NATO in all but name.
  11. The Forsaken

    No, you see you do need to PM me. I'm the OP for NATO and this group is a rehash of that one. You might not find that in the rules, but it's an old community courtesy that when an OP archives a group, they're asked permission before it's brought back. And I definitely should have been PM'ed before you put me in a goal. That's just insane that you thought it was gonna go fine. I only played with you a couple days, you seem like a nice guy, but don't try to be tough on a thread that shouldn't exist. Read above. I know you've run it ICly, and from what I've heard it's had terrible reception by the community.
  12. The Forsaken

    I'm pissed that this is getting revived because it shouldn't be here. First, I archived it. Since this is obviously an attempt at reviving that group without my consent it input, I don't think it should exist. I'm the OP for the group, it wasn't a lore faction, and it doesn't belong here anymore. Maybe if y'all had reached out in a PM to let me know you're actually gonna embarrass yourselves beforehand, I'd have been fine. You definitely should have PM'ed me about specifically targeting me. Second, so few of you actually know how to RP like you're in the military. Don't forget that I've seen all of you RP, especially you Blackburn, Mr. Delta Force super soldier. That's not even hyperbole. I'm not confident this group will run well. It might be moderately cohesive, though I doubt it tbh.
  13. The Forsaken

    This group is a fucking joke. It's first two primary goals are to target specific members of this community. Kudos for finding the correct article that would be viable to bring me in under, but none of you are in my CoC and none of you are MPs. Also, I haven't deserted. You won't be finding Banks, he was evac'ed by Utes, so that's a wasted venture. You're gonna try to make every person from every military background you find into an American soldier? First, good luck getting any Marines to do that, let alone servicemen from other countries. You won't be setting a good example for military RP, literally two of you are good RP'ers, don't forget I've seen all of you RP as NATO servicemen. Like @Pep said, don't do this group again. You're already sullying the NATO name by dressing in black and shooting civilians and UN members. Honestly, this group should have archived weeks ago and stayed that way. I have no confidence you can do this. None.
  14. Roleplay- Immersion and Believability

    Holy fuck, not this shit again. The human flesh in the meds became a rumor because one of NATO's medics was trading medical supplies and saw literally stacks of meat, which your own doctor in the WHO confirmed was infected human tissue, piled into barrels at Chapavesk with meds in the same containers. Your doctor did not //explain they were emoted as being properly stored and simply said, "uhhh there's not enough space." So yes, please tell me how we should take that IC'ly. Insulting to the WHO? FFS put some effort into actually separating shit and don't confirm it's infected human tissue next time. Also, get a waterproof bag and chuck the meat in there I also tried to get you on TS that day, but you were all hiding in your own TS to "avoid metagame." Can't remember the number of times I spoke to you all about that, but whatever. Let's sort one thing out here. NATO was founded to oppose Russian aggression, but it does not actively provide that function for just anyone. You have to be in NATO to be protected by NATO. Yeah, it does missions in places that aren't NATO member states (ie. Afghanistan), but we didn't stop Russia in Chernarus IG for much the same reason NATO didn't stop Russia in the Ukraine; avoiding WW3 during the Apocalypse seems like a pretty good idea, yeah? As to the whole fact that we "sided" with the CDF and VDV, we were actually ICly and OOCly sidelined. The whole time they pulled shit against you, we were holed up in an apartment with our hands on our heads, later guided to the CDF camp to help people that escaped yours. But why did we do so? Pretty simple, your people in the WHO couldn't tell us that you were actually properly storing what they confirmed to be infected flesh. Turned out the CDF and VDV had different motives, but from an IC perspective, we wanted you out of South Zagoria so that an investigation could be conducted from Utes and Miroslavl. Never happened, oh well. I'll just throw a couple thoughts out there, since you were definitely clearly the only ones ever trying to do anything to advance the lore, the UN never would have been in Chernarus. And before you ask, NATO would have pulled out everyone who was in country because they were massacred, without support, and were combat ineffective. Also, after a nuclear blast wiped out the NATO fleet (????) and we lost contact with our command for a time, we definitely would have left. Back to the UN though. Peacekeepers have, at the very minimum, a 30-day readiness period. So everything that happened in the lore happened from July 12 or something until July 24. Somewhere in there, the UN miraculously deployed. Nope. Not how it works. You would have to hold an emergency Security Council (or GA, but I'm pretty sure it's SC) meeting, approve it, and then wait 30 days so the coalition could be formed. And that's for the high readiness unit. To be frank, that's not the action UN would take. So according to the writing of this lore, the UN lore faction never should have been IG til a month ago at the soonest. The WHO totally could have been, but the head researchers would have been in an area far removed from the outbreak, probably on Utes. The WHO team in South Zagoria would literally only be collecting samples, bringing them to the southern ports, and shipping them to Utes for analysis. Not many researchers would have to go there straight away, nor should they. I'm just sitting here reading day in and day out about how much you all tried. Well, like me in my running of NATO, you fucked up. Own it and move on. I may be hyper realistic in my understanding of how things would make sense, and I get harped on it all the time, because it's "just a game" or "you need to allow for some suspension of reality to have fun." Tbh, no you don't. You can be very realistic (especially in the lead up to the IG lore) and still have room to enjoy things. I thought this was a serious RP community, but as someone said a while ago, things have shifted into an RP-lite mentality and never went back. @ me next time.
  15. Character ideas maybe?

    He may be poorly defining PMC. There are NGOs who provide humanitarian care and also staff their own armed security.