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Server and location: s1 outside vybor military 

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): sunday September 1st like 11 pm eastern 

Your in game name: nik khaos

Names of allies involved: gd

Name of suspect/s: hutch and some guy 

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): 

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot):

https://m.twitch.tv/rizstream/clip/GlutenFreeEncouragingCheeseTBTacoLeft

 
Detailed description of the events:

i spot three people jogging from lab to vmc, I approach with one other and they immediately start sprinting not saying anything. We continue they split I follow two and then they split as well. I’m left following only hutch at this point trying to talk. Then I get initiated on and shot almost instantly when I said ok ok replying to the guy 

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Connection Logs:

03:08:39 | Player "Nik Khaos" is connected
04:28:54 | Player "Nik Khaos" has been disconnected

03:18:16 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" is connected
-Restart-
04:34:38 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" is connected
04:36:27 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" has been disconnected
04:36:39 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" is connected
04:38:13 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" has been disconnected
04:38:21 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" is connected
-Restart-
05:18:02 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" is connected
06:09:08 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" has been disconnected

03:17:25 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" is connected
-Restart-
04:33:07 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" is connected
-Restart-
05:16:49 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" is connected
-Restart-
08:28:43 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" is connected
09:03:15 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" has been disconnected

02:48:06 | Player "Joey Phillips" is connected
-Restart-
04:33:51 | Player "Joey Phillips" is connected
-Restart-
05:17:13 | Player "Joey Phillips" is connected
05:38:50 | Player "Joey Phillips" has been disconnected

02:32:47 | Player "Bobby Slaughter" is connected
03:28:34 | Player "Bobby Slaughter" has been disconnected
03:29:45 | Player "Bobby Slaughter" is connected
03:29:51 | Player "Bobby Slaughter" has been disconnected
03:30:01 | Player "Bobby Slaughter" is connected
-Restart-
04:33:07 | Player "Bobby Slaughter" is connected
-Restart-
05:16:49 | Player "Bobby Slaughter" is connected
06:19:12 | Player "Bobby Slaughter" has been disconnected

Hit Logs:

Previous Encounter:
03:14:39 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" hit by Player "Eddie Morrison" with AKM from 40.0069 meters 
03:14:41 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" hit by Player "Brandon Young" with M4A1 from 17.2352 meters 
03:14:43 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" hit by Player "Bobby Slaughter" with AKM from 8.86133 meters 
03:14:57 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" hit by Player "Brandon Young" with M4A1 from 1.08915 meters 

03:14:21 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" hit by Player "Eddie Morrison" with AKM from 37.4704 meters 
03:14:24 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" hit by Player "Eddie Morrison" with AKM from 38.7512 meters 
03:14:25 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" hit by Player "Eddie Morrison" with AKM from 38.7512 meters 

Reported Encounter:
04:26:32 | Player "Nik Khaos" hit by Player "Vali Kuznetsov" with AK-74 from 3.07032 meters 
04:26:32 | Player "Nik Khaos" hit by Player "Vali Kuznetsov" with AK-74 from 2.92927 meters 
04:26:32 | Player "Nik Khaos" hit by Player "Vali Kuznetsov" with AK-74 from 2.7178 meters 
04:26:32 | Player "Nik Khaos" hit by Player "Vali Kuznetsov" with AK-74 from 2.7178 meters 

After Execution:
04:34:42 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" hit by Player "Bobby Slaughter" with AKM from 187.549 meters 
04:34:46 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" hit by Player "Bobby Slaughter" with AKM from 187.112 meters 
04:34:55 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" hit by Player "Bobby Slaughter" with AKM from 188.453 meters 
04:34:56 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" hit by Player "Bobby Slaughter" with AKM from 188.522 meters 
04:34:56 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" hit by Player "Bobby Slaughter" with AKM from 188.522 meters

04:35:52 | Player "Joey Phillips" hit by Player "Vali Kuznetsov" with AK-74 from 11.1128 meters 
04:35:55 | Player "Joey Phillips" hit by Player "Vali Kuznetsov" with AK-74 from 8.02518 meters 
04:35:56 | Player "Joey Phillips" hit by Player "Vali Kuznetsov" with AK-74 from 8.28418 meters 

04:35:57 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" hit by Player "Joey Phillips" with FN-FAL from 2.90818 meters 
04:35:57 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" hit by Player "Joey Phillips" with FN-FAL from 2.90818 meters 
04:35:58 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" hit by Player "Bobby Slaughter" with AKM from 205.563 meters 
04:35:58 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" hit by Player "Bobby Slaughter" with AKM from 205.563 meters

Kill Logs:

Previous Encounter:
03:14:42 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (DEAD) killed by Player "Brandon Young" with M4A1 from 16.2702 meters 

03:14:21 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (DEAD) killed by Player "Eddie Morrison" with AKM from 37.4704 meters 

Reported Encounter:
04:26:32 | Player "Nik Khaos" (DEAD) killed by Player "Vali Kuznetsov" with AK-74 from 3.07032 meters 

After Execution:
04:35:58 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (DEAD) killed by Player "Bobby Slaughter" with AKM from 205.563 meters

04:34:56 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (DEAD) killed by Player "Bobby Slaughter" with AKM from 188.522 meters

Position Logs:

03:10:39 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (pos=<3692.1, 5979.6, 407.0>) 
03:20:40 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (pos=<10697.4, 5306.4, 276.1>) 
03:25:40 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (pos=<10232.1, 5584.8, 242.9>) 
03:30:40 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (pos=<10111.4, 5508.9, 246.4>) 
03:35:40 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (pos=<9671.1, 5937.6, 320.2>) 
03:40:40 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (pos=<8558.0, 6127.8, 305.0>) 
03:45:40 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (pos=<8354.4, 6700.1, 358.7>) 
03:50:40 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (pos=<7478.5, 7706.2, 323.2>) 
03:55:40 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (pos=<7691.4, 7825.4, 361.1>) 
04:00:40 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (pos=<7076.8, 7688.9, 294.7>) 
04:05:40 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (pos=<6295.5, 7822.2, 306.7>) 
04:10:40 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (pos=<5968.1, 7748.3, 304.7>) 
04:15:40 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (pos=<5971.3, 7744.1, 304.7>) 
04:20:39 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (pos=<5302.3, 8103.3, 352.9>) 
04:25:39 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (pos=<4434.4, 8082.2, 338.2>) 
04:30:39 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (pos=<4408.5, 7740.4, 300.8>) 
04:38:08 | Player "Vali Kuznetsov" (pos=<9490.7, 11100.2, 247.8>) 

03:10:39 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<3691.0, 5982.1, 407.0>) 
03:20:40 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<10696.7, 5302.1, 275.6>) 
03:25:40 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<10234.3, 5588.5, 243.2>) 
03:30:40 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<10116.2, 5488.7, 244.9>) 
03:35:40 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<9674.1, 5938.4, 319.8>) 
03:40:40 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<8559.3, 6128.6, 305.1>) 
03:45:40 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<8369.8, 6686.1, 359.1>) 
03:50:40 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<7481.1, 7713.1, 324.0>) 
03:55:40 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<7692.7, 7825.9, 361.5>) 
04:00:40 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<7076.0, 7691.1, 295.3>) 
04:05:40 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<6282.9, 7823.6, 305.0>) 
04:10:40 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<5968.8, 7747.6, 304.7>) 
04:15:40 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<5973.1, 7744.4, 304.7>) 
04:20:39 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<5303.1, 8098.6, 352.6>) 
04:25:39 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<4460.8, 8027.6, 321.1>) 
04:30:39 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<4410.1, 7737.2, 301.1>) 
04:38:08 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<2632.3, 4875.2, 204.0>) 

Calling in for POV's:

@Nik | Nik Khaos | POSTED

@HDragon | Vali Kuznetsov | POSTED

@RiZStream | Roy Hutchinson | POSTED

@Joe | Joey Phillips | POSTED

@YungBrandonRP | Brandon Young | POSTED

@Bobby | Bobby Slaughter | POSTED

@Wendigo | Eddie Morrison | POSTED

For their FULL and DETAILED POV and any VIDEO EVIDENCE they have.

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Hutch and I had just died at GM and happened to respawn together at Staroy, after some time running we run into Lawrence. A short few minutes after we found him @RiZStream gets a radio message from Grace saying that the Green Dragons are going to Stary to hunt us down even though they just killed us. We began to leave stary thinking that they are in town, after heading west towards VMC we see 2 people at the Stary/Kab CP and book it into the tree line where we see 2 more people. We book it some more to the road leaving south from Kab. We see a single guy and I say something like hi, at this point he either threw on his GD armband or turned so I can see it. And the boys and I decided to run because we had just heard the whole GD is coming to gas us thing. So we run all the way to VMC where Lawrence gets caught up by a few GD. Hutch and I continue running to the VMC hill where a guy who hasn't claimed to be apart of any group is following us. I hide and Hutch stops to speak with him. The guy (Nik) acting very sketchy talks for a minute to Hutch and Hutch says some things like dude stop following me I don't know you, the whole 9 yards. Hutch then leaves the hill to the south east-ish. At this point he is double micing and saying "Stop following me" and whatnot. I chase after and let him now Ima rob this guy. When I walk up I tell Nik something along the lines of "Put you hands up without saying a word, if you speak I will kill you". He then replied very loudly and clearly before placing his hands on his head "OK OK OK". At this point I shot him. He spoke after being told not to.

Just a few minutes after the server crashes and me and Hutch are in the same spot in the tree line, where we begin taking fire. I would like to say that I believe there was some meta-gaming on the Green Dragon's behalf due to the gunfire happening. Nik was dead, he never said anything about being taken, being shot, or anything of the sorts IC. His last words were, "OK OK OK". This can be taken as a sign of hostile action but can definitely not be conclusive evidence of hostile actions in it's self.

Will responded if requested by Staff Team

Edited by HDragon

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Hello it is I, I was the man you ran into with the greenarmband before you started spiriting away. I was witness to you getting chased as I started because I recognized your voice from GM when you tried getting boosted over than ran in the tower talking disrespectfully to us when you did, then you split away from lawerence so I took @Jsesse White and was walking with him while talking to him, then we hear gunshots from the direction Nik chased you. After we heard the shots I was asking Nik on the radio if he was fine, he did not respond. I waited and asked again several times trying to understand what happened to him and @Jsesse Whitewas witness to me attempting to speak to him, I never got an answer back from him so the boys came to the realization that nik can't respond and I just left him while he was running after you guys. So I knew where he was, I knew what direction he was running then I heard two shots which sounded like an execution so we tried contacting him on radio and that didnt work so we spread about and located you guys laying down by a small patch of trees.

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Hutch's POV

Had a firefight at Green Mountain, which both @HDragon and I died at. Spawned at the same place and started to run around for a bit dynamically with @Jsesse White. Saw some people as we approached Kab. Another guy rolled up on us on the way to VMC, which we both suspected as Green Dragons. Started to run towards VMC, obviously being chased. @Nik came from another angle and catches up to us. He follows me, repeatedly asking why he followed. Ran to the hill above VMC, double micing asking why he's following, etc. I begin to run away, being pursued by @Nik. @HDragon radios that he's going to hold him up. @HDragon comes up and initiates with something like "put your hands up and don't say a word or I'm killing you", I initiate as well, and @Nik said "okay okay okay". @HDragon shoots @Nik. We lay in the bushes a bit away for a while, server crashes (I believe), we get back in, I get up to run, start getting shot at from the hill and die.

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Calling in @Joe, @Bobby@YungBrandonRP and @Wendigo for their full and detailed povs and any evidence they have. 

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Get told Nik was in the area of vmc-ish with a couple randos. So I start heading that way. Hear shots. Heard nothing back from Nik. Server crashes and Hutch and HDragon were dead. That's just about it with my involvment with this situation

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POV: Apollo is approached by the group of 3, then Apollo starts to hot mic him talking to them. He and nik start to chase while we start making our way to them. Apollo breaks away from the large group to talk to the guy left behind. Apollo starts talking on the radio asking nik if he was the one who shot, nik doesn’t respond we all then try contacting nik over radio and he doesn’t respond again so we start searching where we saw him going with them east on the top of veresnik so we all started moving there that’s when apollo told your guy that we could see them so then hutch stood up and started running and got shot by Bobby.

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@Joe and @Bobby will be temporarily banned from the servers until they respond.

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Apollo and Nik Radio that they were chasing 3 people that sounded very familiar to the people at GM, They split up and Apollo went after the solo and Nik went for the other 2. There was shots, We tried contacting Nik over the radio and there was no response. So we assumed he was either kidnapped or shot by these 2 people. Server crashes then we all get back in and I see a man that fits the description just without a shirt running south of VMC with his gun out, I kill him and right after I see the second one in the treeline where the first guy just came from and I then kill him too.

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@Bobby Your temp ban has now been lifted, please keep an eye on the report as we may require you to answer follow-up questions.

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Was roleplaying in stary heard we were going to vmc to look for some people, wasn't paying the most attention was watching youtube as we were running then I hear bobby say I killed him. I then turned my youtube video off and saw a man laying down behind a wall. I begin running at him screaming HANDS HANDS LET ME SEE YOUR HANDS NOW OR YOU WILL BE SHOT. He then begins unloading on me. My police training kicked in and I said on the radio "10-17 10-17 shots fired shots fired". I then took the fight to him and began unloading my firearm in to the man. And then somehow @Bobby shoots the man as I'm spraying into him and just steals my kill.

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Thank you @Joe your temp ban has been lifted. Please continue to follow the report in case we have further questions. 

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Summary:
@HDragon & @RiZStream Are running towards VMC when they see a group of men matching the description of a group they have hostilities with, after they see them they begin to sprint towards the hill next to VMC and are closely followed by @Nik, @HDragon waits and hides on the top of the hill while @RiZStream continues. @Nik Continues the chase on @RiZStream, when @RiZStream stops on the opposite side of the hill and begins to question @Nik why he is following him at which point @HDragon approaches from behind and tells @Nik to ''Put your hands up, if you speak you will be shot'' at which point @Nik utters the words ''OK OK OK'' and is killed, after @Nik has been killed by @HDragon the server crashes and both parties log back in, @HDragon & @RiZStream lay in some foliage for a minute before deciding to run and which point they are spotted and killed.

Rulebreaks:

  • @HDragon After initiating on @Nik and him not abiding by your demands, you took it upon your self to kill him, even though you technically had kill rights on @Nik for not abiding by your demands, the staff team feel you abused these rights to execute him and you will be punished for Ruleplay and invalid kill (Roleplayed) as kill right gained by a rule break would mark the kill as invalid.
  • @HDragon We understand that you did not want @Nik to relay information to his allies and this is completely understandable but seeing as the only words he spoke was ''ok'' it was completely irresponsible to kill him, hence the punishment for rule play.
     
    Spoiler

    4.3 You shouldn't use defender or attacker rights in situations where it doesn't make in-character sense as it can be seen as rule play. In other words, obtaining kill rights alone does not give you explicit permission to use them any time you want and in all situations. Think about if using them to kill another character is viable in the current situation considering role play and In Character information. Kill rights gained from any rule breaks (including but not limited to baiting, invalid initiation) are considered invalid and their use will be punished in the same way as if they were not obtained at all.

     

  • The staff team looked into the claim for meta gaming and could not come to any concrete conclusion, as the evidence to support the claim was null.

Evidence:

Suggestions:
@HDragon When gaining attacker rights upon other players, try not to be so hasty to use them, as you are not only ending the roleplay for other people, you are making their experience less enjoyable, try to consider the roleplay you and others can take away from the experience.

@HDragon When you successfully take someone hostage and they either have their hands raised or are bound, you can not simply tell them to shut up or don't speak, as this cuts all ties of any meaningful Role play.

Reminder: Let me remind all people not just in this report but everyone in the community, if you are caught stream sniping another member to gain an advantage other them, you will receive warning points and a ban.

Verdict:
@HDragon - Invalid kill (role-played), Rule play - 5 day ban, 10 warning points
@Joe @Bobby @Wendigo @Apollo - Metagaming - Inconclusive

Signed @Realize & @Peril /w Notes

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