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S1: KOS and Metagaming 2019-08-24, 20:14 - Zelenogorsk

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Server and location: Server 1 - Zelenogorsk 

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 2019-08-24, 20:14

Your in game name: Ivan Belic

Names of allies involved: @AbrahamSmith Abraham Smith 

Name of suspect/s: Unknown - logs will show 

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): N/A

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): None

Detailed description of the events: My friend @AbrahamSmith and I were going to Zelenogorsk to see if we could find some people to chat with. We see some guy in the military barracks in Zelenogorsk. @AbrahamSmith goes up to the man and begins talking with him. He is immediately hostile towards @AbrahamSmith. As a result of his random hostilities (because the guy didn't like foreigners) @AbrahamSmith told him to put his hands up because he wanted to find out what the guys issue was. The guy immediately tries to shoot @AbrahamSmith and a gun fight between the two occurs. @AbrahamSmith kills the guy and infected start rushing into the area. Also, two random guys run up too and in all the confusion I tell one of the random guys to run into a shed with me to get away from the 3 infected chasing him. I close the door blocking the infected from coming in and the guy just gases me without saying a word to me. I never initiated on anyone and @AbrahamSmith and I are not part of an official group. Therefore, I had no kill rights on anyone and no one had kill rights against me. Where the metagaming accusation comes in is the fact, the guy that @AbrahamSmith killed did not speak after he was initiated on and the random guys just show up and shoot before even knowing what happened, which means they probably knew their buddy was dead because they were told that OOC. 

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Abraham Smith POV: Me and my Friend were in zelogorsk to look for some RP. We met a man there that was extremely hostile because i was american so i took it apon myself to make it right and i initiated on him, then he turns and shoots and we get into a gun fight and i come out victorious. My buddy Ivan then comes to me to ask what all went down as a horde of zombies and 2 random players come in. In fear i fell back a bit while ivan attempted to talk to them, Ivan then entered a shed with one of the people and they proceeded to fire apon and kill ivan, i then killed them in return and then died to the whore of zombies that froze infront of me

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Connection Logs:

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19:10:57 | Player "Ivan Belic" is connected
-DEAD-

19:11:02 | Player "Abraham Smith" is connected
-DEAD BY ZOMBIE-
20:16:59 | Player "Abraham Smith" is connected

19:48:58 | Player "Alexei Ivanov" is connected
-DEAD-
20:23:28 | Player "Alexei Ivanov" has been disconnected
20:23:59 | Player "Alexei Ivanov" is connected

19:09:43 | Player "Havel Martinek" is connected
-DEAD-

19:09:43 | Player "Branski Yungski" is connected
-DEAD-

 

Hit Logs:

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20:13:46 | Player "Havel Martinek"[HP: 84.49] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into LeftArm(18) for 47 damage (Bullet_545x39) with AKS-74u from 3.55732 meters 
20:13:46 | Player "Havel Martinek"[HP: 68.98] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into LeftArm(21) for 47 damage (Bullet_545x39) with AKS-74u from 3.55732 meters 
20:13:47 | Player "Havel Martinek"[HP: 53.47] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into RightArm(19) for 47 damage (Bullet_545x39) with AKS-74u from 3.26442 meters 
20:13:47 | Player "Havel Martinek"[HP: 29.97] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(24) for 23.5 damage (Bullet_545x39) with AKS-74u from 3.18879 meters 
20:13:47 | Player "Havel Martinek"[HP: 6.46999] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(24) for 23.5 damage (Bullet_545x39) with AKS-74u from 3.19668 meters 
20:13:47 | Player "Havel Martinek" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into RightArm(17) for 47 damage (Bullet_545x39) with AKS-74u from 3.70958 meters  
20:13:47 | Player "Havel Martinek" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into RightArm(19) for 47 damage (Bullet_545x39) with AKS-74u from 3.70958 meters 
20:13:47 | Player "Havel Martinek" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(24) for 47 damage (Bullet_545x39) with AKS-74u from 3.70958 meters 
20:13:48 | Player "Havel Martinek" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(16) for 47 damage (Bullet_545x39) with AKS-74u from 3.74109 meters 
20:13:48 | Player "Havel Martinek" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(7) for 47 damage (Bullet_545x39) with AKS-74u from 4.24504 meters 
20:13:48 | Player "Havel Martinek" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(12) for 47 damage (Bullet_545x39) with AKS-74u from 4.24504 meters 
20:13:48 | Player "Havel Martinek" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(15) for 47 damage (Bullet_545x39) with AKS-74u from 4.19652 meters 

20:14:46 | Player "Ivan Belic"[HP: 81.85] hit by Player "Branski Yungski" into LeftArm(21) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 3.14291 meters 
20:14:46 | Player "Ivan Belic"[HP: 63.7] hit by Player "Branski Yungski" into LeftArm(21) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 2.73481 meters 
20:14:46 | Player "Ivan Belic"[HP: 45.55] hit by Player "Branski Yungski" into LeftArm(29) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 2.33302 meters 
20:14:46 | Player "Ivan Belic"[HP: 18.05] hit by Player "Branski Yungski" into Torso(24) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 2.33302 meters 
20:14:46 | Player "Ivan Belic" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Branski Yungski" into Torso(25) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 1.77866 meters  
20:14:46 | Player "Ivan Belic" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Branski Yungski" into Lungs(48) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 1.68245 meters 
20:14:46 | Player "Ivan Belic" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Branski Yungski" into Torso(23) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 1.47342 meters 
20:14:46 | Player "Ivan Belic" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Branski Yungski" into Torso(26) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 1.85759 meters 
20:14:46 | Player "Ivan Belic" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Branski Yungski" into Torso(14) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 1.85759 meters 
20:14:46 | Player "Ivan Belic" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Branski Yungski" into Torso(14) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 1.95694 meters 
20:14:46 | Player "Ivan Belic" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Branski Yungski" into Torso(15) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 1.95694 meters 

20:15:25 | Player "Branski Yungski"[HP: 81.85] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into RightArm(19) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 11.9357 meters 
20:15:25 | Player "Branski Yungski"[HP: 54.35] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(24) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 11.9357 meters 
20:15:25 | Player "Branski Yungski"[HP: 26.85] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(24) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 11.9357 meters 
20:15:25 | Player "Branski Yungski"[HP: 8.7] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into RightArm(17) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 11.5486 meters 
20:15:25 | Player "Branski Yungski" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into RightArm(19) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 11.5296 meters 
20:15:25 | Player "Branski Yungski" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(15) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 11.7134 meters 
20:15:26 | Player "Branski Yungski" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(24) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45Tracer) with M4A1 from 12.2026 meters 

20:15:57 | Player "Alexei Ivanov"[HP: 68.8706] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(24) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 10.6473 meters 
20:15:57 | Player "Alexei Ivanov"[HP: 41.3706] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(26) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 9.61127 meters 
20:15:57 | Player "Alexei Ivanov"[HP: 14.0853] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(15) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 9.32228 meters 
20:15:58 | Player "Alexei Ivanov" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into RightArm(19) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 8.99641 meters 
20:15:58 | Player "Alexei Ivanov" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(12) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 9.71187 meters 
20:15:58 | Player "Alexei Ivanov" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(26) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 9.71187 meters 
20:15:58 | Player "Alexei Ivanov" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(15) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 9.96466 meters 
20:15:58 | Player "Alexei Ivanov" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(16) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 9.96466 meters 
20:15:58 | Player "Alexei Ivanov" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Torso(24) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 10.4095 meters 
20:15:58 | Player "Alexei Ivanov" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Lungs(49) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 10.4095 meters 
20:15:58 | Player "Alexei Ivanov" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Heart(44) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 10.4095 meters 
20:15:58 | Player "Alexei Ivanov" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into Spine(40) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 10.4095 meters 
20:15:58 | Player "Alexei Ivanov" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abraham Smith" into RightArm(19) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 10.6394 meters 

 

Kill Logs:

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20:13:47 | Player "Havel Martinek" (DEAD) killed by Player "Abraham Smith" with AKS-74u from 3.70958 meters
20:14:46 | Player "Ivan Belic" (DEAD) killed by Player "Branski Yungski" with M4A1 from 1.77866 meters
20:15:25 | Player "Branski Yungski" (DEAD) killed by Player "Abraham Smith" with M4A1 from 11.5296 meters
20:15:58 | Player "Alexei Ivanov" (DEAD) killed by Player "Abraham Smith" with M4A1 from 8.99641 meters
20:16:23 | Player "Abraham Smith" (DEAD) killed by ZmbF_CitizenBSkinny

 

Calling in to post PoV's:

@cjackson821 | Ivan Belic | POSTED
@AbrahamSmith | Abraham Smith | POSTED
@Wendigo | Alexei Ivanov | POSTED
@Dew | Havel Martinek | POSTED
@YungBrandonRP | Branski Yungski | POSTED

Please post a FULL and DETAILED POV and any VIDEO EVIDENCE you have

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Pretty straight foward POV once again:

I walk into Zeleno Military to look for some pants, I run into a man calling me brother inside a barrack. I tell him I'm not his brother and that he shouldn't call me that. He gets annoyed that I don't accept his attempt at being wholesome, I tell him to move out of my way and stop talking to me so I could leave. He initiates on me, I go super focus try hard mode and try to kill him, get ghost bullets and die. 

The metagaming accusation is simply false, I was double micing from the second you ran into me in the barrack, my guys knew exactly where I was and were directly outside the compound as they were going to come loot as well. I'm not sure if they heard the initiation or what but they immediately made their way to the compound once they heard the shots. Once I died I went quiet but at that point they already knew what was going on.

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-User has been warned for this post- 

so Dew said he was at Zelen Mil and me and Wendigo start to run over. We were right outside the compound and we hear Dew getting heated talking to some man at the military base. We hear them inside the base than shots rang off and Dew went silent. We run in kill 2 than last kills us. 

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Me and Brandon were outside the compound when they dropped the yeet on my mans Dewskeetskeet. We run in to where the shots were and using our defender right, we start gassing. Unforntunately, my kill was on someone who wasn't involved. but was sorted out in the report I'll be linking below. I die shortly after.

Dew was hot mic’ing the whole time and Brandon and I were both aware of what was going on.
 

 

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@Dew When you were initiated on was it by one of them, or both ?
@cjackson821 When @AbrahamSmith initiated on @Dew did he assist you at all ?
@AbrahamSmith Did you assist in the initiation, on @Dew ?

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I did not. I was looting one of the barracks when I heard him start to talk. By the time I tried to approach to try and tone things down @AbrahamSmith had dropped his initiation. I started to question what was going on when they started shooting but no one responded to me. That’s when another random person came up and I told him it was best to leave because I didn’t even know what was going on. That’s when @AbrahamSmith emerged. But we started to get swarmed by infected and @Wendigo and @YungBrandonRP show up. Neither of them say anything and @YungBrandonRP proceeds to shoot me as I try to help him from the infected chasing him by sheltering in the shed. 

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9 hours ago, Realize said:

@Dew When you were initiated on was it by one of them, or both ?

I'm not sure to be honest, I was outside the barrack by the time the guy initiated on me.

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Verdict:

@YungBrandonRP - Invalid Kill (Firefight) | Guilty
@Dew
- Metagaming | Inconclusive 

Reason:

The staff team have reviewed this report and arrived at the outcome above. @YungBrandonRP your ally was initiated on and did not comply to the demands given by someone that was running with the OP of this report. The OP and his ally both claim that only one of them did the initiation with the OP not apart of it.

As they are not in an approved group you would not gain rights on the OP and would need to re-initiate which is something you did not do. As the official statements claim you were in a shed at the time with the OP and had the ability to initiate or use that time to RP thus getting a better understanding of the situation and who was involved. Instead you went for the easier option of taking a chance and killing the OP.

We always recommend re-initiating if you do not know fully who is involved. This helps to properly ID targets especially in a populated area such as a military base that potentially has non affiliated individuals roaming for gear.

@Dew as we do not have enough evidence in the form of a video to back up the claims of metagaming against you we have reached an inconclusive verdict.

Outcome:

@YungBrandonRP - Invalid Kill (Firefight) - 2 Days | 5 Points
@Dew
- No Punishment

Signed: @Voodoo @Phoenix

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