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Fail RP at Pulkovo - S1

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Server and loc that ation:  S1 at Pulkovo

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME):  basiclly 17/20 min ago something like

Your in game name: Abdul 

Names of allies involved: @BlueTights @UnderZero @It4yB

Name of suspect/s: uknown 

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): no 

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): none 

Detailed description of the events:  Me and my friends were at Pulkovo and we were trying to build up a base around the area, we suddenly met a group of 3/4 people that was friendly at the beginning and we had some chill conversation we were talking about random stuff and when we were about to go to our way and keep building the base they initiated us for no reason , litrelly we were walking and then they told up to put ur hands up , we were not threating them or something else , and about 2 mins before everything happend , one of them told me and my friend , "We didn`t really had a fresh start so we wont to make a new one and clear any bad things".

I am prertty sure thats fail rp , they had no reason to initiated on us.

I am going to list a few rules that may apply for this situation.

4.1 All initiations and hostile actions as well as their demands and conditions must be made clear and unambiguous to all involved players. Hostile actions or initiations must be done personally and on specific targets who must be aware who the attacker is, for example they cannot be done remotely through radio or PA system.

Their objective was not clear as I said.

4.3 You shouldn't use defender or attacker rights in situations where it doesn't make in-character sense as it can be seen as rule play. In other words, obtaining kill rights alone does not give you explicit permission to use them any time you want and in all situations. Think about if using them to kill another character is viable in the current situation considering role play and In Character information. Kill rights gained from any rule breaks (including but not limited to baiting, invalid initiation) are considered invalid and their use will be punished in the same way as if they were not obtained at all.

as I said there was no reason for them to inintated on us.

 4.7 You may not bait other players into situations where you provoke the player into using hostile actions and then using kill rights to kill them. This is known as baiting.

basiclly like the one above.

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Hi

You are allowed to initiate on any person you meet for whatever reason you want. There is no such thing as "They didn't have a reason to initiate". As long as they provided enough roleplay after the initiation and didn't just rob you of all your stuff without saying a word and leave again, everything is perfectly fine to do.

If you believe any BadRP after the initiation happened, please provide us with video evidence proving your point.

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4.1 All initiations and hostile actions as well as their demands and conditions must be made clear and unambiguous to all involved players. Hostile actions or initiations must be done personally and on specific targets who must be aware who the attacker is, for example they cannot be done remotely through radio or PA system.

Their objective was not clear as I said.

4.3 You shouldn't use defender or attacker rights in situations where it doesn't make in-character sense as it can be seen as rule play. In other words, obtaining kill rights alone does not give you explicit permission to use them any time you want and in all situations. Think about if using them to kill another character is viable in the current situation considering role play and In Character information. Kill rights gained from any rule breaks (including but not limited to baiting, invalid initiation) are considered invalid and their use will be punished in the same way as if they were not obtained at all.

as I said there was no reason for them to inintated on us.

Neither of the rules you quoted actually state anything about not being able to initiate on someone if you don't have a valid reason. Those rules essentially explain how to validly initiate and what you must and mustn't do. 

With the above said, how would you like to proceed with this report @hadzyy?

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they just told us to hands up out of no where and didnt even gave us time to do anything they just started shooting , i dont have a video...

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Connection Logs:

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19:11:36 | Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" is connected
-DEAD-

19:12:16 | Player "Jordan Muhamed Tyson" is connected
-DEAD-

19:11:23 | Player "Adam Wolf" is connected
-DEAD-

19:14:04 | Player "Michael Blanco" is connected
-DEAD-

19:09:43 | Player "Havel Martinek" is connected
-DEAD-

19:09:43 | Player "Branski Yungski" is connected
-DEAD-

19:10:47 | Player "Jannik Bruzek" is connected
19:31:26 | Player "Jannik Bruzek" has been disconnected
19:32:11 | Player "Jannik Bruzek" is connected
20:50:42 | Player "Jannik Bruzek" has been disconnected

 

Hit Logs:

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19:17:14 | Player "Jordan Muhamed Tyson"[HP: 70] hit by Player "Havel Martinek" into Torso(15) for 30 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 3.87921 meters 
19:17:14 | Player "Havel Martinek"[HP: 81.85] hit by Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" into RightLeg(6) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 17.4341 meters 
19:17:14 | Player "Havel Martinek"[HP: 51.85] hit by Player "Jordan Muhamed Tyson" into Torso(24) for 30 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 3.89468 meters 
19:17:14 | Player "Jordan Muhamed Tyson"[HP: 40] hit by Player "Havel Martinek" into Torso(24) for 30 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 3.87367 meters 
19:17:14 | Player "Havel Martinek"[HP: 21.85] hit by Player "Jordan Muhamed Tyson" into Torso(24) for 30 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 3.85507 meters 
19:17:15 | Player "Havel Martinek"[HP: 3.7] hit by Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" into RightLeg(6) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 16.5521 meters 
19:17:15 | Player "Havel Martinek" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" into Torso(34) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 16.5521 meters  
19:17:15 | Player "Jordan Muhamed Tyson"[HP: 32.02] hit by Player "Havel Martinek" (DEAD) into LeftHand(46) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 3.84891 meters 
19:17:15 | Player "Jordan Muhamed Tyson"[HP: 24.04] hit by Player "Havel Martinek" (DEAD) into RightHand(47) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 3.84891 meters 
19:17:15 | Player "Jordan Muhamed Tyson"[HP: 4.24] hit by Player "Havel Martinek" (DEAD) into RightArm(30) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 3.84891 meters 
19:17:15 | Player "Havel Martinek" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" into RightLeg(6) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 16.2263 meters 
19:17:15 | Player "Havel Martinek" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" into RightLeg(6) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 15.944 meters 
19:17:15 | Player "Havel Martinek" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" into Torso(36) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 15.944 meters 
19:17:15 | Player "Havel Martinek" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" into Torso(33) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 15.944 meters 
19:17:16 | Player "Jordan Muhamed Tyson" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Branski Yungski" into LeftLeg(10) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 31.0442 meters  
19:17:18 | Player "Branski Yungski"[HP: 72.5] hit by Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" into Torso(12) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 18.4455 meters 
19:17:18 | Player "Branski Yungski"[HP: 45] hit by Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" into Torso(15) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 18.863 meters 
19:17:18 | Player "Branski Yungski" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" into Torso(16) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 19.0383 meters  
19:17:18 | Player "Branski Yungski" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" into Liver(45) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 19.0383 meters 
19:17:18 | Player "Branski Yungski" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" into RightHand(47) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 19.1849 meters 
19:17:25 | Player "Michael Blanco"[HP: 68.2838] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into Torso(24) for 30 damage (Bullet_762x39Tracer) with AKM from 52.7311 meters 
19:17:26 | Player "Michael Blanco"[HP: 48.4838] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into RightLeg(6) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 52.7312 meters 
19:17:26 | Player "Michael Blanco"[HP: 28.6838] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into LeftArm(18) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 52.7288 meters 
19:17:26 | Player "Michael Blanco" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into Torso(24) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 52.7233 meters 
19:17:26 | Player "Michael Blanco" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into Lungs(48) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 52.7233 meters 
19:17:26 | Player "Michael Blanco" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into Heart(44) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 52.7233 meters 
19:18:10 | Player "Abdul Al Zawadii"[HP: 70] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into Torso(15) for 30 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 42.0741 meters 
19:18:11 | Player "Abdul Al Zawadii"[HP: 50.2] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into RightLeg(5) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 42.0741 meters 
19:18:11 | Player "Abdul Al Zawadii"[HP: 20.2] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into Torso(15) for 30 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 42.0681 meters 
19:18:12 | Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into Torso(24) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 42.0681 meters 
19:18:12 | Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into Lungs(48) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 42.0681 meters 
19:18:12 | Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into Torso(16) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 42.3066 meters 
19:18:12 | Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into Liver(45) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 42.3066 meters
19:18:19 | Player "Jannik Bruzek"[HP: 72.5] hit by Player "Adam Wolf" into Torso(12) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 23.0451 meters 
19:18:20 | Player "Jannik Bruzek"[HP: 69.2] hit by ZmbF_JoggerSkinny_Green into RightArm(17) for 10 damage (MeleeZombie)
19:18:20 | Player "Adam Wolf"[HP: 70] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into Torso(25) for 30 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 23.2051 meters 
19:18:20 | Player "Adam Wolf"[HP: 40] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into Torso(26) for 30 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 23.4798 meters 
19:18:20 | Player "Adam Wolf" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into Head(0) for 30 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 23.9274 meters  
19:18:25 | Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into Torso(12) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 2.51683 meters 
19:18:25 | Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into LeftLeg(11) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 2.51683 meters 
19:18:25 | Player "Michael Blanco" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into Torso(16) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 3.49795 meters 
19:18:25 | Player "Michael Blanco" (DEAD)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Jannik Bruzek" into Torso(15) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 3.49795 meters 

 

Kill Logs:

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19:17:15 | Player "Havel Martinek" (DEAD) killed by Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" with M4A1 from 16.5521 meters
19:17:16 | Player "Jordan Muhamed Tyson" (DEAD) killed by Player "Branski Yungski" with M4A1 from 31.0442 meters
19:17:18 | Player "Branski Yungski" (DEAD) killed by Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" with M4A1 from 19.0383 meters
19:17:26 | Player "Michael Blanco" (DEAD) killed by Player "Jannik Bruzek" with AKM from 52.7233 meters 
19:18:12 | Player "Abdul Al Zawadii" (DEAD) killed by Player "Jannik Bruzek" with AKM from 42.0681 meters
19:18:20 | Player "Adam Wolf" (DEAD) killed by Player "Jannik Bruzek" with AKM from 23.9274 meters

 

Calling in to post PoV's:

@hadzyy | Abdul Al Zawadii | POSTED
@BlueTights | Jordan Muhamed Tyson | POSTED
@UnderZero | Adam Wolf | POSTED
@It4yB | Michael Blanco | Temp
@Dew | Havel Martinek | POSTED
@YungBrandonRP | Branski Yungski | POSTED
@Blake | Jannik Bruzek | POSTED

Please post a FULL and DETAILED POV and any VIDEO EVIDENCE you have

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Jannik Bruzek POV: 

Hey wassup. So my pov is pretty straight forward. We arrived at Pulkovo, me and @Dew are looking around and we meet these 4 people. At the beginning they were acting super sketchy. One of the guys barely said a single word and would continuously run around behind us. After some time I engaged in conversation with them, they told me (Or dew, cant remember) that they were on a top secret mission. Since they clearly were foreigners we did not trust that and we decided that we should initiate and get some more information regarding this "top secret mission" 

Soon after @YungBrandonRP arrives and drops the initiation. They did not comply and we started shooting. My boys died which made me really sad IC since my boys is a major part of my characters development so I killed all 3 of them because I was triggered, and ofc, also because they chose not to comply. 

So overall no rules were broken at all, we initiated, they didn't comply, thats it. 

tyty. 

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It's a pretty straight forward POV:

We walk into Pulkovo and are immediately greeted by people being very sketching circling @Blake and I. I ask what is going on and why this dude is circling me, he then asks me for my name and why I'm here. I tell him I am from these lands and that I heard shots and came to see. He then tells me him and his friends are on a top secret mission and that I shouldn't disturb them, I say okay whatever. Brandon shows up we initiate on them for being suspicious and we wanted to take them in for questioning about what their top secret mission was, they don't comply, people die. Not sure what is fail RP about that.

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-User has been warned for this post- 

The boys were getting circled by some sketch people in Pulkovo so I went to go give them backup. I initiate they don't comply and we kill them. Not fail rp. 

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you guys are saying you gave us time to comply but as soon you guys said hands up or die you shot almost everyone without giving time to do anything , and you guys screamd so hard "hands up or die" i don`t think you guys were trying to ask some things you clearly tried to kill us and rob us.

I think its fail rp cuz you really didnt go for anwering stuff you just wanted our loot , you had people overwatching us from corners as well and stuff and after ur friend said "lets make a fresh start" you initaed 30 secs later it just doesnt seem right to me 

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1 hour ago, hadzyy said:

I think its fail rp cuz you really didnt go for anwering stuff you just wanted our loot , you had people overwatching us from corners as well and stuff and after ur friend said "lets make a fresh start" you initaed 30 secs later it just doesnt seem right to me 

As I already stated we decided to initiate on you because you said you were on a top secret mission and we wanted to know more. And yes, I was the one who told you "lets have a fresh start" I was gaining your trust, if that is fail rp to tell someone "lets have a fresh start" then I am a two headed unicorn. 
Secondly, you had plenty of time to comply and you chose not to. 

Also, I am not obligated to sit here and tell you exactly why I initiated, the fact is that we initiated and you didn't comply, pretty simple. Even after phoenix was kind enough to explain to you that we did not need a reason to initiate. 

So to me It just seems like you are reaching for a punishment, even though staff have already explained that what we did was just fine. 

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58 minutes ago, Blake said:

As I already stated we decided to initiate on you because you said you were on a top secret mission and we wanted to know more. And yes, I was the one who told you "lets have a fresh start" I was gaining your trust, if that is fail rp to tell someone "lets have a fresh start" then I am a two headed unicorn. 
Secondly, you had plenty of time to comply and you chose not to. 

Also, I am not obligated to sit here and tell you exactly why I initiated, the fact is that we initiated and you didn't comply, pretty simple. Even after phoenix was kind enough to explain to you that we did not need a reason to initiate. 

So to me It just seems like you are reaching for a punishment, even though staff have already explained that what we did was just fine. 

I dont have a recording but if you bring one you are going to see someone screaming "hands up hands up" and at the same second you guys were already shooting at us.

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@Dew hit logs show you were the first to react and fire the shots and then receive shots on yourself.

1. Did this group have their weapons out and begin to aim when the initiation is dropped.

2. How long was given to comply to the demands? From point of initiation to pulling the trigger.

@hadzyy you fire back a second later after your ally is shot which suggests to me you had a weapon out is that correct?

Also can you answer question 2 above that ive given to @Dew

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6 hours ago, Voodoo said:

@hadzyy you fire back a second later after your ally is shot which suggests to me you had a weapon out is that correct?

 

we all had weapons out expept my friend , he was the one talking and i was the one making sure no one will do stuff like that , but most of my group had their weapons on their back and one wasnt even a threat he was building our base 

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6 hours ago, Voodoo said:

@Dew hit logs show you were the first to react and fire the shots and then receive shots on yourself.

1. Did this group have their weapons out and begin to aim when the initiation is dropped.

2. How long was given to comply to the demands? From point of initiation to pulling the trigger.

@hadzyy you fire back a second later after your ally is shot which suggests to me you had a weapon out is that correct?

Also can you answer question 2 above that ive given to @Dew

They all had their weapons out, and when Brandon initiated I tried to run to cover but the man to my left on the road immediately raised his gun at me trying to line a shot, I simply turned and shot at him.

Right when the initiation happened everyone began aiming guns and running for cover, none of the initiated on party complied.

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When everything started I was the only one I am pretty sure with a weapon out , thats why I killed like 2 of you guys , you guys were busy shooting the unarmed people before they pull their weapon out

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4 minutes ago, hadzyy said:

When everything started I was the only one I am pretty sure with a weapon out , thats why I killed like 2 of you guys , you guys were busy shooting the unarmed people before they pull their weapon out

This is simply not true, but I'm not gonna sit here and go back and forth with you about this.

EDIT: Also you mention all your friends had guns out but one 

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5 minutes ago, hadzyy said:

When everything started I was the only one I am pretty sure with a weapon out , thats why I killed like 2 of you guys , you guys were busy shooting the unarmed people before they pull their weapon out

You say you are "pretty sure" that you were the only one with a weapon out? Yet you continue to say we were too busy shooting unarmed people? Anyways, not replying anymore unless asked to, you are straight up lying. 

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1 hour ago, Blake said:

ou say you are "pretty sure" that you were the only one with a weapon out? Yet you continue to say we were too busy shooting unarmed people? Anyways, not replying anymore unless asked to, you are straight up lying. 

not lying , I talked to my friends and they told me they did not have their weapons out , that`s why I said "I am pretty sure I was the only one with an weapon out" 

If someone can bring a video of what happend it would amazing cuz then it would be actually possible to see what happend.

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@BlueTights @UnderZero @It4yB will all be temp banned until they provide their full and detailed POV's and any VIDEO EVIDENCE that they have.

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9 hours ago, Saunders said:

@BlueTights @UnderZero @It4yB will all be temp banned until they provide their full and detailed POV's and any VIDEO EVIDENCE that they have.

hi , @It4yB is not going to be home for a while , ill try to contact the others 

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I'm sorry for late reply I'm currently in the military and won't be home until 12th in September. I'm not sure if I have a video of the incident but i won't be home to check it.

My POV:

Me and my group went Pulkovo in an attempt to establish a base. I was the one who actually had the task of building the foundations for the base. When we we're approach by these guys. At the start the conversation was pretty chill.. they asked us what we were doing there.. and not wanting to give the information that we're building a base there. Somebody came up with the excuse that we're on a "secret mission" for some reason... (although if you're on a secret mission you're not going to say you're in a secret mission... so yeah). I told that to one of those guys... we were trying to make them "leave" but they didn't budge. I think it was clear that we weren't posing any threat to them.. at one point one of them came and asked me for food and I gave him a can of beans or something i had.. 

At that point I assume that we're on good terms. And I've gone back to crafting a fundations for the base.. my weapon was on my back and I was unarmed.

When the initiation dropped I was busy crafting rope. Phasing no threat to anybody.. I stopped crafting stood up and turned to see a gun pointed at me.. and some guy shouting "put up your hands or die.." I tried asking what happened but before I had the chance to start the hands-up gesture ingame. Somebody started shooting at our guys...

I personally didn't have any time to comply or understand the situation..

As soon as I heard shots and saw my friend next to me get shot I run into cover. It took me about a minute until I got my weapon out. While I was trying to understand who is shooting and why... at that point I saw somebody shooting at one of my friends. I shot him back and got killed...

I think it was pretty poor RP and Communications... from both parties, and i feel like both parties had "a pretty itchy trigger finger".. it's was better having a "Mexican standoff" when it comes to RP then a messy gunfight that you don't understand in the first place.... 

P.s I'm sorry for any bad grammar

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@UnderZero Your Temp Ban has been lifted. Please keep and eye on the report for any further questions. 

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13 hours ago, Saunders said:

@BlueTights @UnderZero @It4yB will all be temp banned until they provide their full and detailed POV's and any VIDEO EVIDENCE that they have.

Hi, my POV:

me and my friends was wandering around the map for at least an hour in order to fine a good place to make a base so we ended up finding "Pulkovo" and decided to start build it there. after couple of minutes one of my friends said in the radio he see 2 guys entering the the village so we went to his location and met those too guys who seem friendly towerds us, we spoke a little and i offerd any help by supplies (like water, food or anything else i might have to help) and one of them started shouting something and i calmed him down and explained to the other one we are just couple of people here with a secret mission wich we can't share with them because i didn't want to take any chance this guys will try to get back to this location and break into our base and suddenly another guys appeard and i asked the man i was talking to if he knows the guy and he said he didn't know but met before wich in retrospect one of their party, and because of that i believe was watching from distance and was called inside to a fight wich wasn't neccssery or justified.

After that i walked away for couple of minutes checking out the area looking how going on the base building and came back to the place we met the guys still to see one of them over there i walked to him and he told me they want to make up and start over the relationship or something like it wich i didn't understand so i just asked if were good and he said yea so i figured that clearly they were friendly and there wasn't any reason to worry about those guys, after that he asked if iv'e seen any ginger guy that he was looking for so wanting them to leave the area as fast as possible i told them iv'e seen one wich i did on some road a little far frome here and even offerd help and throw to him a map and asked if he needed one but he refused and said he already have one and thanked me, so again after that i was completely sure we were on good terms, i l was leaving again to check if there was any extra loot while walking holsted with nothing in my hands and suddnley my buddy hadzyy was shouting in the radio the said hand's up they are hostile, while that happaning iv'e seen at the corner of my eye one of them with a blue hat besides me so i quickly pulled out my akm and starting shooting him and he done the same to me after he a sec or 2 he fell to the ground and i was half hit by a gun shot so i ran to get cover only to get shot in the back and die.

I have to note that i didn't have any gun out while the initiating started and clearly didn't think of those guys as a threat first of all because one of them clearly said to me that no matter what ever happend when we met now were good and friendly towards each other and second because they was saying they are only two guys and the third one that came after them wasn't part of their team.

I don't have any video as a evidence but i'm sure you verify some of the critical moments that i introduced by one way or another in the log.

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@BlueTights your Temp Ban has been lifted. Please keep and eye on the report for any further questions. 

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Verdict

@Blake - Invalid Kill (Roleplayed) - Inconclusive

Explanation

A team of staff have examined this report carefully and have come to the conclusion that without any sufficient evidence in form of a video, we cannot proceed with this report and it will be deemed inconclusive.

All the POV's are contradicting with one another. @hadzyy states that there was not enough time to comply, yet @Dew says in his POV that enough time was given and the OP and allies did not comply to the demands and were shot in return. Unfortunately, there is nothing for us to go off that could push this report in favor of either party.

Furthermore since @It4yB has failed to post his POV, he will remain temp banned until he creates a ban appeal.

With the above said the following applies

Outcome

@Blake - Invalid Kill (Roleplayed) - No actions taken

Signed by @Phoenix & @Voodoo

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