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S1: Griefing Berenzino Around 15-17:00 2019-06-03

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Server and location: S1 Berenzino 

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): Around 15-17:00 I believe can check the logs to see exactly when from when I typed into chat.

Your in game name: John Sterling

Names of allies involved: @ChrisW and Dima 

Name of suspect/s:  @ItsMaverick AKA Jacob Holland in game. And 2 others.

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): N/A

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): 

 

MORE SCREENSHOTS:

 

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Detailed description of the events: Chris, Dima, and myself arrive to upper berenzino to see what is going on with the muslims over by chips new shop there next to the hospital. We arrive and RP for a little amount of time then decide to see what is left of the CDF base. We walk in to find these individuals that have just taken the tent off the ground after they completely dumped all of the gear on the ground to despawn. As you see in the video I type in chat //THIS IS GRIEFING to warn them in an attempt to get them to put it back and put everywhere the way it was. They failed to do so and said back //and how? and as you see he clearly doesn't care and says it isn't and that they're just taking the tent. We tried to pickup the stuff they dropped to help out the CDF and hopefully not lose all of the items. After time goes by we leave and that is the end of the night. 

Today (time I am filing the report) I log on to find that our base just down the road at the firehouse had been griefed by them as well. They came in and took gear I imagine and then left the rest of the gear in the tent to despawn on the ground which you will find in my screenshots the rest of the gear which is only 3 AK mags and a saiga left that managed to not disappear. I then head up to the old WolfPack camp just up the road near the CDF base and find again the same thing that happened at the CDF base happened here too, more loot just in piles on the ground and tents gone. I left and when I left there was still a tent outside and when I came back 15 minutes later the tent was gone and even more gear just in a pile on the ground. 

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Whats up gamers, The clip put in belongs to me. Bit of background to all of this. We headed out uptoward the CDF base after having a brief exchange with the Muslims and Russians at our base. We went inside the compound and saw a bloke we had ran into on the way up there with another group of randoms. Loot was already on the floor by the time we got there and we called them out on it before moving the gamer loot into the remaining tent. This is what the footage shows. Later that night our base was griefed in an identical manor, and though we can't be 100% sure the culprits of both are the same it seems highly likely as they were in the same area and had just done the same to the CDF.

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Hello I have talked to @YT and said it was fine to post this since it is the same situation. 

Earlier today I woke up and proceeded to join the server. After joining my friend tells me that our chest of Medicine is all gone which I thought was weird. Couple of minutes later I was greeted by John Sterling and was asked if I did this. Which he later asked if I had destroyed anything which I respond honestly with "No". After checking the stuff that was left there I had noticed that there was a huge amount of medicine such as: Aspirin, Codeine lying around along with multiple blood bags, iv start kits, etc. I had realized this was our stuff. In the house right next to the Watchmen's base had our chest (which was empty as they dumped all of the medicine into the watchmen's base and in the pots which were heating). 

 

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Well if you stuck around you could clearly see me pick the loot back up to take back to my base. I did not despawn gear. How are you supposed to take items such as tents and barrels with items in there. My intentions are to not despawn loot. 

4.8 Griefing is act of damaging or destroying a player base, storage container, vehicles or their contents using OOC knowledge, ill intent or doing so without IC reasoning that is proportionate to the damage done.

No OOC knowledge, No ill intent, I had IC reasoning. 

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@ItsMaverick who were your allies in this situation?

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I don't know his last name. James. And the russians were there I dont know who. That was during the hospital incident. After that it was just me and james.

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Seeing as this is our base that's  been griefed I'll reply to this report.

 

2 hours ago, ItsMaverick said:

Well if you stuck around you could clearly see me pick the loot back up to take back to my base. I did not despawn gear. How are you supposed to take items such as tents and barrels with items in there. My intentions are to not despawn loot. 

4.8 Griefing is act of damaging or destroying a player base, storage container, vehicles or their contents using OOC knowledge, ill intent or doing so without IC reasoning that is proportionate to the damage done.

No OOC knowledge, No ill intent, I had IC reasoning. 

What IC reasoning would that be? We have no idea who you are. We've only kicked 4 people out of Berezino during our entire time 2 which was EvanPVE and his buddy, second would be Fae and her pal. We've never met a 'Jacob' in game, so I'd be interested in what reasoning you have.

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Well seeing an empty base and an empty town for days. I wanted to rebuild. I saw opportunity in what was lost.

 

If you didn't want people to take your stuff you need close your compound and or have locks. 

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Just now, ItsMaverick said:

Well seeing an empty base and an empty town for days. I wanted to rebuild. I saw opportunity in what was lost.

 

If you didn't want people to take your stuff you need close your compound and or have locks. 

Berezino is a hotspot, town hasn't been empty for days at all, you were surrounded by people as shown in the OP's videos. You've gone in, griefed multiple bases and left EVERYTHING inside of EVERY container on the floor to despawn.

That -is- griefing.

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4.8 Griefing is act of damaging or destroying a player base, storage container, vehicles or their contents using OOC knowledge, ill intent or doing so without IC reasoning that is proportionate to the damage done.

The groups there have not been there for days.

The Russians were there only for the hospital video and left shortly after. I was not surrounded by people.

I did not leave stuff all over the floor to despawn. I spent countless hours collecting and moving gear around the city. I made sure to get as many things as possible to fit into the base I occupied. I did everything I could to take as much supplies as possible.

This -  is -  NOT -  griefing.

No OOC knowledge. No ill intent. I wanted to rebuild what was lost (ICC reasoning).

7/4  4:52 PM - i just saw the screenshots that were originally posted. Only one of these pictures looks like despawning. The one that does look like despawning is the one with cooking pots glitched inside of each other. This was not done by me. I had everything set and organized inside the base. When I logged off and back on things were moved and were missing from the base including the tent that was used to store those items.

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IGN: Dima Ivanov

POV for Dima Ally of of @YT:

 

So basically me Chris, and YT were rolling around in Berenzino and we came across members of the muslims and pamyati in in town who had just killed a CDF guard or something a long those lines I'm not to sure. Anyways we were with them for a bit and then we decided to go inside the CDF base and take a look around, once we got inside the base is when we found the suspect and some other people. Everyone was standing around a military tent taking stuff out and placing it on the floor. I asked the man what he was doing and he said trying to take the tent. YT then informed then in-game that this was griefing and they should stop. Nobody stopped anything so me and my boys tried to grab their stuff off of the floor and put in back in the car tent next to it so it would not despawn as it was A LOT of gear on the floor. I should also mention that there was a Pamyati member there helping us put the stuff into the car tent as well so I don't think they are responsible for any of the other griefing we found as he was trying to help us clean it up. Once that was cleaned up I went inside an apartment building and found several crates and barrels and pretty much everything was thrown out of them and all on a pile on the floor to despawn. Once we tried to clean that one up as well we then proceeded to leave the CDF base and continue to RP.

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Additional Point to request for the staff. @Mexi has brought to my attention over discord that he believes that the suspect might have collected the loot then ran out of the camp then server hopped. Just to knock this out I would love if the person pulling the logs could check if this is the case also. 

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Regardless of if you took the items or not, you somehow managed to tear down 5 tents and take the entirety of their contents- a long with despawning whatever important equipment you didn't take. 

4.8 Griefing is act of damaging or destroying a player base, storage container, vehicles or their contents using OOC knowledge, ill intent or doing so without IC reasoning that is proportionate to the damage done.

Sure it might've been proportionate damage to your IC needs if you had've took one, if not even two tents and the equipment inside. But instead you deliberately went out of your way to dismantle 5 full tents worth of equipment, empty 3 more barrels worth of equipment and somehow re-locate it all somewhere else?

You claim that we haven't been there for days when we've quite literally been on every day of the week, let alone the other non-group members who also occupy the base when we aren't online as a body group. In-fact, literally a few minutes before the video is recorded one of the people associated and living in the base with us was executed outside. 

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Position Logs:

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//No position logs for the alloted time frames on S2, only S1

--First Situation--
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04:58:25 | Player "Dima Ivanov" (pos=<11997.3, 9137.4, 54.4>) 
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--First Situation--
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18:00:56 | Player "John Sterling" (pos=<12790.2, 9944.4, 6.0>) 

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Connection Logs:

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--S1--
15:52:02 | Player "Abdullah ALTuwaijri" is connected
16:26:57 | Player "Abdullah ALTuwaijri" has been disconnected
16:30:37 | Player "Abdullah ALTuwaijri" is connected
16:46:43 | Player "Abdullah ALTuwaijri" has been disconnected
--S2--
No connection logs

--S1--
02:35:30 | Player "Ahmed Yakupov" is connected
02:38:49 | Player "Ahmed Yakupov" is connected
02:39:26 | Player "Ahmed Yakupov" has been disconnected
02:42:17 | Player "Ahmed Yakupov" is connected
05:03:50 | Player "Ahmed Yakupov" has been disconnected
19:46:10 | Player "Ahmed Yakupov" is connected
20:54:06 | Player "Ahmed Yakupov" has been disconnected
--S2--
No connection logs

--S1--
03:00:03 | Player "Dima Ivanov" is connected
05:36:22 | Player "Dima Ivanov" has been disconnected
22:00:22 | Player "Dima Ivanov" is connected
22:50:35 | Player "Dima Ivanov" has been disconnected
--S2--
23:39:43 | Player "Dima Ivanov" is connected
23:57:34 | Player "Dima Ivanov" has been disconnected

--S1--
02:52:00 | Player "Jacob Holland" is connected
02:52:27 | Player "Jacob Holland" has been disconnected
02:56:34 | Player "Jacob Holland" is connected
06:34:00 | Player "Jacob Holland" has been disconnected
07:01:29 | Player "Jacob Holland" is connected
07:25:11 | Player "Jacob Holland" is connected
10:24:51 | Player "Jacob Holland" has been disconnected
10:27:02 | Player "Jacob Holland" is connected
10:41:49 | Player "Jacob Holland" has been disconnected
21:47:58 | Player "Jacob Holland" is connected
23:14:55 | Player "Jacob Holland" is connected
23:27:05 | Player "Jacob Holland" has been disconnected
--S2--
10:25:52 | Player "Jacob Holland" is connected
10:27:01 | Player "Jacob Holland" has been disconnected
10:42:04 | Player "Jacob Holland" is connected
10:47:39 | Player "Jacob Holland" has been disconnected
23:27:20 | Player "Jacob Holland" is connected
00:28:11 | Player "Jacob Holland" has been disconnected

--S1--
02:59:54 | Player "John Sterling" is connected
05:28:18 | Player "John Sterling" has been disconnected
15:43:10 | Player "John Sterling" is connected
18:49:23 | Player "John Sterling" is connected
19:37:37 | Player "John Sterling" has been disconnected
23:11:53 | Player "John Sterling" is connected
23:15:20 | Player "John Sterling" is connected
--S2--
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--S1--
16:47:42 | Player "Ryan Rivers" is connected
18:40:41 | Player "Ryan Rivers" has been disconnected
18:41:27 | Player "Ryan Rivers" is connected
18:44:11 | Player "Ryan Rivers" has been disconnected
19:39:25 | Player "Ryan Rivers" is connected
20:22:49 | Player "Ryan Rivers" has been disconnected
--S2--
No connection logs

Calling In:

@YT | John Sterling | POSTED
@ALTu | Abdullah ALTuwaijri | POSTED
@Dusty | Ahmed Yakupov | POSTED
@Mike-Styles | Dima Ivanov | POSTED
@ItsMaverick | Jacob Holland | POSTED
@GunRunnee02 | Ryan Rivers | POSTED
@ChrisW | Jackson Mackenna | POSTED

For your full and detailed PoV. Please also provide any video evidence you may have as well as the name of your character at this time so logs can be properly updated.

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POV:

IC: Abdullah ALTuwaijri - i shorten it to ALTu to make it easy for other players

when i arrived to the hospital that was CDF base it was a mess everything was on the floor, i gathered what i found and put it in a standing tent (Video 1), Then i found a folded tent that i unfolded to put the remaining things in it. i didn't remove anything from the tents and leave it on the floor (video 2).

 

i don't usually record events and i was testing, good thing that i did and didn't delete it sorry if the video is not much of help. Thanks

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PoV: We muslims were in town with Pamyati. We ended up taking a CDF dude hostage, and when that ended we turned our focus to Chip at the grocery store right next to the hospital. While my guys were talking to chip and trying to set up a deal or something, I was walking around, listening and watching in case more CDF showed up. I was outside the front gate of the hospital when I saw a bunch of random people by the CDF tents, and I saw in chat someone saying something about griefing because they were emptying the tents to take them. I just said in chat that it’s not really griefing if they’re taking the tents to actually use them. That’s as far as my involvement with this report goes.

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3 hours ago, Xehara said:

-SNIP-

Gave my PoV a long time ago...

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On 7/7/2019 at 5:39 PM, ChrisW said:

Gave my PoV a long time ago...

What was the character name you used?

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1 hour ago, Xehara said:

What was the character name you used?

Jackson Mackenna

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@ItsMaverick | Griefing | INCONCLUSIVE 

Summary:

Two bases were raided at different times throughout the day with similar methods of dumping the tent of the items, taking the tent, and moving it to another location. @ItsMaverick was found in the process of doing just that, but claims he came back to put the stuff back in the other tent, and was not present for the second base raid. We were also unable to find position logs that would indicate who could have dumped the tent in the second base. Because of this, we cannot take one community member's word over the other and must deem this report as inconclusive. That said, there are some things that need to be cleared up.

Dumping items in the tents to take the tent itself is not considered griefing, however, leaving things on the ground to despawn is considered griefing. Because of this, if @ItsMaverick went back and put items in another tent, he would have been found not guilty. Had he simply left everything there, he would be found guilty. In the future when raiding a base, if you want the tent, move all of the items from one tent to another before packing the tent. This will prevent potential despawning of items in your process of moving a tent from one place to another. It also removes the need to return to the place you're robbing after you've robbed them.

The rule(s) that support this:

  • 4.8 Griefing is act of damaging or destroying a player base, storage container, vehicles or their contents using OOC knowledge, ill intent or doing so without IC reasoning that is proportionate to the damage done.

Verdict:

@ItsMaverick | Griefing | INCONCLUSIVE 

Signed: @Mademoiselle @Derek Steel and @Xehara

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