Jump to content
Server time (UTC): 2019-07-20, 08:39
Sign in to follow this  
Gatorr

S1-Kabanino- RDM

Recommended Posts

Server and location: s1 1:32 AM EST

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): Outside kabanino

Your in game name: Abu Al Farooqi

Names of allies involved: @Apollo @Hollows

Name of suspect/s: N/A

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): 

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): 

Detailed description of the events: Me and my friends stopped to talk to a man on the road by Gary cash house. multiple men run up and scream to put our hands up. I was standing with my back facing them and had no weapon out. My teammates raised their weapons and shot but I was immediately gunned down for no reason.

Share this post


Link to post

Assad al Abhari PoV: We just ran into Kab on the way into the Airfield when we encounter this guy on the road leading up to Garry Cash for some RP. We exchange pleasantries for a while when out nowhere someone runs up behind us and shouts," Put your fucking hands up!" Only seeing one person, I elected to shoot and spray into the guy before looping around and boarding up in the tan double by Church. I lock the door and begin to bandage because I was hit hard by a volley of shots and then are approached by someone from down stairs who shoots at me through the door. I shoot back and are killed because of already low health.

Gator was unarmed and shot in the back at the time of the initiation, making it no time to comply. Not to mention Nik was shot at before he was initiated on, meaning he was KoS'ed as we are not an official group and he wasn't present for the initiation.

Share this post


Link to post

My POV

We were heading towards NWAF on the road from Kabanino when one guy approaches us and begins talking to us and we engage in a conversation, then from behind my friends comes out a guy yelling at us to raise our hands we had more numbers at the time and more friends around, I raise my gun and gun down the initiator and his friend but they gun down Gatorr and was not given time to respond then I take off running but was shot and bled out to death.

Share this post


Link to post

Connection Logs

Spoiler
04:47:10 | Player "Nick Greenway" is connected
05:48:13 | Player "Nick Greenway" has been disconnected
06:01:48 | Player "Nick Greenway" is connected
06:02:45 | Player "Nick Greenway" has been disconnected
06:04:21 | Player "Nick Greenway" is connected
06:06:40 | Player "Nick Greenway" has been disconnected

04:20:48 | Player "Abu Al Farooqi" is connected
05:51:29 | Player "Abu Al Farooqi" has been disconnected
05:57:29 | Player "Abu Al Farooqi" is connected
06:24:11 | Player "Abu Al Farooqi" has been disconnected

04:47:30 | Player "Dallas Kane" is connected
05:54:20 | Player "Dallas Kane" has been disconnected
06:07:39 | Player "Dallas Kane" is connected
06:16:20 | Player "Dallas Kane" has been disconnected

05:21:41 | Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" is connected
06:07:47 | Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" has been disconnected

03:16:31 | Player "Semaj Jamerson" is connected
05:48:21 | Player "Semaj Jamerson" has been disconnected
05:51:29 | Player "Semaj Jamerson" is connected
06:24:22 | Player "Semaj Jamerson" has been disconnected

03:23:32 | Player "Jivan Simonian" is connected
05:30:23 | Player "Jivan Simonian" has been disconnected

04:59:23 | Player "Assad al Abhari" is connected
05:00:09 | Player "Assad al Abhari" has been disconnected
05:05:54 | Player "Assad al Abhari" is connected
05:41:03 | Player "Assad al Abhari" has been disconnected

04:57:14 | Player "Pavel Ivanov" is connected
04:58:08 | Player "Pavel Ivanov" has been disconnected
05:09:20 | Player "Pavel Ivanov" is connected
06:40:14 | Player "Pavel Ivanov" has been disconnected
06:43:00 | Player "Pavel Ivanov" is connected

05:01:48 | Player "Zayan Nur Basim" is connected
05:41:28 | Player "Zayan Nur Basim" has been disconnected

04:31:05 | Player "James McCoy" is connected
05:49:48 | Player "James McCoy" has been disconnected
05:52:33 | Player "James McCoy" is connected
05:53:17 | Player "James McCoy" has been disconnected
05:54:51 | Player "James McCoy" is connected
05:56:54 | Player "James McCoy" has been disconnected
06:00:29 | Player "James McCoy" is connected
06:01:56 | Player "James McCoy" has been disconnected
06:02:41 | Player "James McCoy" is connected
06:12:32 | Player "James McCoy" has been disconnected

 

Hit Logs

Spoiler
05:29:18 | Player "Abu Al Farooqi" hit by Player "Dallas Kane" with Saiga 12K from 9.80801 meters 
05:29:18 | Player "Abu Al Farooqi" hit by Player "Dallas Kane" with Saiga 12K from 9.80801 meters 
05:29:18 | Player "Abu Al Farooqi" hit by Player "Dallas Kane" with Saiga 12K from 9.80801 meters 
05:29:18 | Player "Abu Al Farooqi" hit by Player "Dallas Kane" with Saiga 12K from 9.80801 meters 
05:29:18 | Player "Abu Al Farooqi" hit by Player "Dallas Kane" with Saiga 12K from 9.80801 meters 
05:29:18 | Player "Abu Al Farooqi" hit by Player "Dallas Kane" with Saiga 12K from 9.80801 meters 
05:29:18 | Player "Abu Al Farooqi" hit by Player "Dallas Kane" with Saiga 12K from 9.80801 meters 

05:29:18 | Player "Dallas Kane" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 13.1382 meters 
05:29:42 | Player "Dallas Kane" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 44.3394 meters 
05:29:43 | Player "Dallas Kane" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 47.8695 meters 

05:29:26 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Dallas Kane" with M16A4 from 22.8009 meters 

05:29:30 | Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" hit by Player "Pavel Ivanov" with M249 SAW from 61.7758 meters 
05:29:31 | Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" hit by Player "Pavel Ivanov" with M249 SAW from 61.2103 meters 
05:29:42 | Player "Dallas Kane" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 44.3394 meters 
05:29:43 | Player "Dallas Kane" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 47.8695 meters 

05:29:49 | Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" with KA-M from 85.4341 meters 
05:29:49 | Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" with KA-M from 85.4341 meters 

05:29:50 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.71712 meters 
05:29:50 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.71712 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.48351 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.48351 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.48351 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.48351 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.48351 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.33564 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.33564 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.33564 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.11856 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.11856 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.11856 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.11856 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.11856 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.02236 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.02236 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.02236 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.02236 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.01176 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.00446 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 2.99707 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 2.99707 meters 
05:29:51 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 2.99707 meters 

05:29:56 | Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" with KA-M from 91.0959 meters 

05:30:19 | Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" hit by Player "Pavel Ivanov" with M249 SAW from 2.7991 meters 
05:30:19 | Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" hit by Player "Pavel Ivanov" with M249 SAW from 2.7991 meters 
05:30:19 | Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" hit by Player "Pavel Ivanov" with M249 SAW from 2.7991 meters 
05:30:19 | Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" hit by Player "Pavel Ivanov" with M249 SAW from 2.7991 meters 
05:30:19 | Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" hit by Player "Pavel Ivanov" with M249 SAW from 2.7991 meters 

05:29:22 | Player "Jivan Simonian" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" with KA-M from 118.526 meters 

05:29:22 | Player "Assad al Abhari" hit by Player "Jivan Simonian" with AKS-74u from 8.18739 meters 
05:29:22 | Player "Assad al Abhari" hit by Player "Jivan Simonian" with AKS-74u from 8.10725 meters 
05:31:05 | Player "Assad al Abhari" hit by Player "Pavel Ivanov" with M249 SAW from 7.85181 meters 
05:31:10 | Player "Assad al Abhari" hit by Player "Pavel Ivanov" with M249 SAW from 7.0774 meters 
05:31:10 | Player "Assad al Abhari" hit by Player "Pavel Ivanov" with M249 SAW from 6.90567 meters 
05:31:28 | Player "Assad al Abhari" hit by Player "Pavel Ivanov" with M249 SAW from 2.9565 meters 

05:33:26 | Player "Nick Greenway" hit by Player "James McCoy" with KA-M from 4.78848 meters 
05:33:26 | Player "Nick Greenway" hit by Player "James McCoy" with KA-M from 4.78848 meters 
05:33:26 | Player "Nick Greenway" hit by Player "James McCoy" with KA-M from 4.79237 meters 
05:33:26 | Player "Nick Greenway" hit by Player "James McCoy" with KA-M from 4.79237 meters 
05:33:27 | Player "Nick Greenway" hit by Player "Pavel Ivanov" with M249 SAW from 17.3972 meters 

05:33:33 | Player "Zayan Nur Basim" hit by Player "James McCoy" with KA-M from 20.7996 meters 
05:33:33 | Player "Zayan Nur Basim" hit by Player "James McCoy" with KA-M from 20.7996 meters 
05:33:36 | Player "Zayan Nur Basim" hit by Player "James McCoy" with KA-M from 20.8102 meters 

05:33:15 | Player "Zayan Nur Basim" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" with KA-M from 59.1121 meters 
05:33:18 | Player "Zayan Nur Basim" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" with KA-M from 52.4772 meters 
05:33:33 | Player "Zayan Nur Basim" hit by Player "James McCoy" with KA-M from 20.7996 meters 
05:33:33 | Player "Zayan Nur Basim" hit by Player "James McCoy" with KA-M from 20.7996 meters 
05:33:35 | Player "Zayan Nur Basim" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" with KA-M from 53.8991 meters 
05:33:36 | Player "Zayan Nur Basim" hit by Player "James McCoy" with KA-M from 20.8102 meters 

 

Kill Logs

Spoiler
05:29:18 | Player "Abu Al Farooqi" (DEAD) killed by Player "Dallas Kane" with Saiga 12K from 9.80801 meters 

05:29:43 | Player "Dallas Kane" (DEAD) killed by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 47.8695 meters 

05:29:50 | Player "Jivan Simonian" (DEAD) killed by Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" with KA-M from 3.71712 meters 

05:29:56 | Player "Sheikh Mohammad Abbas" (DEAD) killed by Player "Semaj Jamerson" with KA-M from 91.0959 meters 

05:33:26 | Player "Nick Greenway" (DEAD) killed by Player "James McCoy" with KA-M from 4.79237 meters 

05:33:35 | Player "Zayan Nur Basim" (DEAD) killed by Player "Semaj Jamerson" with KA-M from 53.8991 meters 

05:31:10 | Player "Assad al Abhari" (DEAD) killed by Player "Pavel Ivanov" with M249 SAW from 6.90567 meters 

 

Calling in to post POVs:

@Gatorr | Abu Al Farooqi | POSTED
@Hollows | Assad al Abhari | POSTED
@DallasRP | Dallas Kane | POSTED
@Apollo | Sheikh Mohammad Abbas | POSTED
@NorwayRP | Pavel Ivanov | POSTED
@Oiram | Semaj Jamerson | POSTED
@ZorullRP | Jivan Simonian | POSTED
@Dusty | Nick Greenway | POSTED
@Nik | Zayan Nur Basim | POSTED
@JamesRP | James McCoy | POSTED

To both parties - please post a FULL and DETAILED POV as well as any VIDEO EVIDENCE you may have.
Thank you

Share this post


Link to post
Posted (edited)

@Mademoiselle hey I was shot at when I walked near the situation and I wasn't initiated on, are my logs around or....

 

POV:  We were all traveling from stary heading towards the airfield, when three of us are stopped at Kab. Me and Dusty were ahead a tad when they initiated on the boys. We turn around and start heading towards the shots, we were just passed the tree line by kab. When I reach about 200 meters from a group of people by beige two story im shot at, I shoot back in retaliation, my gun blows up, and I die. I was never initiated on 😕

We aren't an official group and they shot at me first so I don't believe they had rights to do that without an initiation

 

so I have this too, as ya can tell we had no idea who was who whether it was just simple Kab travelers or the initiators 

Edited by Nik
I meant 20 or 30 not 200 meters lol

Share this post


Link to post

@Mademoiselle I was also there and there are logs on me. Kill on me is legit as I started shooting one of the guys shooting Nik.

POV: We leave Stary, go through Kab and start heading to the airfield. The guys start talking to someone in Kab while Nik and I are in the field more towards airfield. They say they get initiated on, so we run back to figure out what's going on. We get eyes on the town before moving up on the house Hollows was in. We see some dudes on the road north of the church, so I move into the house when Nik starts getting shot at without initiation. I leave the house and start spraying into one of the dudes shooting at Nik but I get ghost bullets and die.

Being that we're an unofficial group, I'm under the impression that they have to initiate on the rest of us as well before shooting us? We weren't at the initiation and were never initiated on.

Share this post


Link to post

Logs have been updated with Connection, Hit and Kill Logs.

Share this post


Link to post
Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, NorwayRP said:

I'll post my POV tmw when I wake up but for now, @Nikcan you please provide full unedited video evidence. There is no way that you pressed your shadow play set to 15 seconds in the middle of spraying at someone. 

Well actually my guy it is set to that, perks of having a new pc with no SSD. I have it hot keyed to a double tap on mi mouse, I didn't press the hotkey while I was shooting when I stopped and backed behind the tree and shuffled I did cause I didn't believe you had rights to just pop at me off the rip. 

Now if I was recording that would be different obv but like I said no mem.

 

Edited by Nik
I can gyazo my settings if youd like

Share this post


Link to post

Seeing as the Evidence is only 16 seconds, and there is no possible way to prove if it is edited, or if the video evidence accurately convey's the situation. I would like to dismiss the video evidence in accordance to the rules on video evidence since to use it would push for an plethora of inconclusive evidence with the main point from that evidence being that all of the OPs friends who died in that fight are still unmuted, and had that evidence not been edited there is a strong chance a conversation would've occured about the decision to bait for RULEPLAY reasons, or METAGAMING from the dead combatants, but seeing as the extremely short nature of this clip it would be unfair for either side to claim a rule break using this evidence. @Mademoiselle. Along with this the NIK is claiming that his settings are set to 15 seconds, shadowplay has a minimum setting of 30 seconds further proving my point. 

Pavel Ivanov POV: We saw the Muslim gang sprinting into Stary then back out and we decided to follow them to Kab based on information we gained from @Worldclassabout the Muslim gang breaking into our compound and stealing our shit. Zorull has more stamina so he is able to catch up and stall them for Dallas to get in range to initiate. I set up with the M249 and Oiram with the AKM. Dallas initiates and 3 of the 4 sprint off, as I have rights from being in an approved group I began engaging those who non complied. Eventually 3 of the 4 had been killed and I push Beige Building to kill Hollows who was upstairs, I use my M249 to mag dump through the cabinet Hollows was hiding behind and kill him. We are regrouping getting the boys the info they need to get to us, and stripping the bodies when I believe James spots Nik baiting shots 15 meters away. Not sure who but either James or Oiram fires a few rounds and Nik fires at me. Since I hadn't shot yet and until then hadn't even seen Nik start to fire back, since after NIK had shot at me I gain the ability to fire back, since he is exercising his DYNAMIC DEFENSIVE RIGHTS from the initial fight. Given this fact I fire back and suppress Nik so Oiram/James can get into cover. As I do this Dusty pushes out of the double beige and sprays ghost bullets at James and James turns and we both shoot Dusty and Nik runs off and is killed after a few seconds.

Share this post


Link to post
17 minutes ago, NorwayRP said:

breaking into our compound and stealing our shit

Just to make it clear, they only jumped into the compound, realized nobody was there and then left without taking anything after a couple minutes or something. They never even went into the store as far as I know.

Not that it changes anything.

Share this post


Link to post

@DustyFair enough, that's the information we were given on IC, so we acted on it IC.

Share this post


Link to post
Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, NorwayRP said:

Seeing as the Evidence is only 16 seconds, and there is no possible way to prove if it is edited, or if the video evidence accurately convey's the situation. I would like to dismiss the video evidence in accordance to the rules on video evidence since to use it would push for an plethora of inconclusive evidence with the main point from that evidence being that all of the OPs friends who died in that fight are still unmuted, and had that evidence not been edited there is a strong chance a conversation would've occured about the decision to bait for RULEPLAY reasons, or METAGAMING from the dead combatants, but seeing as the extremely short nature of this clip it would be unfair for either side to claim a rule break using this evidence. @Mademoiselle. Along with this the NIK is claiming that his settings are set to 15 seconds, shadowplay has a minimum setting of 30 seconds further proving my point. 

15yr4zq.jpg

😮  quit reachin, if I had more footage id upload it, id love to show @Oiram sick kill if I could

And me and the homie @Oiram talked about it and im going to drop my side of it anyway

but can we pleeeeeeeasssse get some clarification on these defensive rights. this personally happened a few times to me already, I don't wanna see anyone get punished for something so confusing tbh

and also tf you mean baiting shots? we had no idea who even took our guys at the time and kab always has randoms lke cmoooon. I get your covering you ass dude but sheesh. We didn't even think it was you guys for a few reasons actually, uh we were cool and civil first off...pretty much allies imo and you used a weak reason to initiate

second me and oriam were chatting ic and through steam just catching up so we had no idea who was who so quit playin all this pretty self explanatory 

 

Edited by Nik
in conclusion dropping my side for the KOS if it is infact that

Share this post


Link to post

Semaj POV: We roll up to Kab from stary after seeing 5ish Muslims comming from stary from kab, and then going back to Kab from Stary. Norway takes a small expedition force to try to capture muslims after what we were told ICly, we roll up, initiate, they don't comply so we shoot them. I was by barn complex when the initiation dropped and I only shot when shots started flying, at people running away with guns out. I was scoped in at the aiming towards the field NWAF direction, not 100% what happened in the first few seconds of the initiation. 

No video from me, sorry.

Share this post


Link to post
6 hours ago, Oiram said:

Semaj POV: We roll up to Kab from stary after seeing 5ish Muslims comming from stary from kab, and then going back to Kab from Stary. Norway takes a small expedition force to try to capture muslims after what we were told ICly, we roll up, initiate, they don't comply so we shoot them. I was by barn complex when the initiation dropped and I only shot when shots started flying, at people running away with guns out. I was scoped in at the aiming towards the field NWAF direction, not 100% what happened in the first few seconds of the initiation. 

No video from me, sorry.

Wait so you're saying the initiation was on five of us? The initiation dropped by the road heading to NWAF was only on three of us, and that being Hollows, Gatorr and me. Then Gatorr was immediately gunned down while he had no gun out and not enough time to comply so I killed the initiators and bled out after. While we were fighting I told them that we were initiated on so they started coming back down from between NWAF and Kab since they were already ahead of us by a little bit so they came back to Kab, where Nik was just lit up when your guys saw him.  

Share this post


Link to post

My POV: The initiation started as I was running up to Kabanino to help the rest of the lads, the initiation gets dropped and I run up to the barn complex with Oiram. Shots start happening, people are dying so I push up to help. The beige house was cleared by one of the lads and no one was shooting so I begin to loot the bodies, as I’m doing so Dusty comes out of the door so I shoot at him. More shots start going off so I run to the left side of the house and I believe it was Nik who starts to shoot at me so I shoot bsck, I hit him maybe once or twice and someone else finished him off.

Share this post


Link to post

Since it has been 24 hours since he has been called in, @ZorullRP will be temporarily banned until he posts his full POV and any video evidence he may have.

Share this post


Link to post

POV:

I'm in Stary and notice a few guys wearing green armbands hanging around the store. After a bit they head off and go towards Kab. IC i'm told that they were stealing from our store earlier so we head into Kab to investigate. I see a group of people on the road wearing green armbands and heads towards them. I initiate by telling them to put their hands up and once I start getting fired upon I return fire at anyone who didn't have their hands up. 

Share this post


Link to post

POV:

A few Muslims roll up on me and begin to talk to me, after about 30 seconds of talking Dallas runs up initiates they start to shoot Dallas. Dallas shoots back, and I then pull my AK74U out and open fire at the Muslims because I have rights VIA CP and roster. I then get shot by friendlies once or twice I put my gun back in my pants and lay down in the middle of the road. That's when a Muslim runs up and sprays me in the back.

Share this post


Link to post
On 6/2/2019 at 12:02 AM, NorwayRP said:

Seeing as the Evidence is only 16 seconds, and there is no possible way to prove if it is edited, or if the video evidence accurately convey's the situation. I would like to dismiss the video evidence in accordance to the rules on video evidence since to use it would push for an plethora of inconclusive evidence with the main point from that evidence being that all of the OPs friends who died in that fight are still unmuted, and had that evidence not been edited there is a strong chance a conversation would've occured about the decision to bait for RULEPLAY reasons, or METAGAMING from the dead combatants, but seeing as the extremely short nature of this clip it would be unfair for either side to claim a rule break using this evidence. @Mademoiselle. Along with this the NIK is claiming that his settings are set to 15 seconds, shadowplay has a minimum setting of 30 seconds further proving my point. 

... What? You want to dismiss what looks like the only video evidence we have against you actively breaking a rule because it makes you look bad and because it is short? Why did you even use the word plethora? What is an excessive amount of inconclusive evidence, you are seen in the footage looking at Nik, then shooting him dead before you initiate on him or even make contact with him (AKA the KoS accusation as we aren't an official group, that initiation doesn't extend to everybody not present).

Your counters:

On 6/2/2019 at 12:02 AM, NorwayRP said:

OPs friends who died in that fight are still unmuted

Your slanting the present evidence to paint a picture of possible metagaming when the only thing gathered in the video are three voices of:

A. "Nik, are you close to the house?"

B. "I'm a white guy."

C. "On the other side of the house?"

D. "What- they don't have rights?"

-Nik is then killed, video ends-.

Where can you ascertain possible metagaming? Why are you trying to grasp at straws and hope something can be pulled out.

Pt.2

On 6/2/2019 at 12:02 AM, NorwayRP said:

had that evidence not been edited there is a strong chance a conversation would've occured about the decision to bait for RULEPLAY reasons

You don't really have a right or evidence to prove anything has been altercated, because it hasn't and it's visibly proven without video cuts as well as Nik provided a picture of his settings to satisfy you. Secondly, how are you going to stand and accuse people of potentially breaking a rule without evidence? What? "Had the video not been edited, there COULD be a CHANCE they MIGHT'VE broken a RULE!" That sounds like some collusion delusion there, to me. I know you guys MIGHT have clips of the kills on us for montages, so there MIGHT be a chance you yourselves are withholding evidence in this report! Do you see how ridiculous this sentiment is when it is turned around and used on you? Stop.

Next, what exactly was Nik going to bait? How could have he baited, you shot him (Or, whoever did shoot him) before any RolePlay transpired, lol.

Pt.3

On 6/2/2019 at 12:02 AM, NorwayRP said:

it would be unfair for either side to claim a rule break using this evidence

No, it wouldn't be unfair. If the clip is 3 seconds long or 3 hours, it is evidence of a rule break regardless, and you don't get a pass because you don't think it's fair. Location and hit logs can validate the evidence, sorry Nik's settings aren't good enough to satisfy you, but you aren't the people we are trying to satisfy in this report. I'd like to counter this point specifically and would like to press Norway on slandering, as he is "nearly" accusing us of foul play without evidence or any other proof in his witch hunt to find holes in his own party's rule-breaks.

Pt.4

On 6/2/2019 at 12:02 AM, NorwayRP said:

shadowplay has a minimum setting of 30 seconds further proving my point

  Your knowledge on how Shadowplay functions is incorrect, unfortunately. Please familiarize yourself with this piece of evidence for future reference both in and out of this report: 

                                                                                      -USER HAS BEEN WARNED FOR THIS PART OF THE POST-

Share this post


Link to post

Alright, let's not make this into a back and forth.
First and ONLY warning.

If you have any (video) evidence that adds onto the situation, then post it. However, please refrain from making this report into a debate.

Thank you.

@ZorullRP your temp banned has also been removed. Please keep an eye on the forums.

Share this post


Link to post

@DallasRP - You have not mentioned whether or not @Gatorr was facing the wall. Only initiating and killing those whom are non compliant.

However there are multiple POV's stating he had no weapon out and facing the wall - and yet was shot by you (as logs show). 

Can you please explain?

Share this post


Link to post

@Mademoiselle I initiated on the group of people, they immediately began to fire at me, seeing as they had enough time to begin shooting me, I shot everyone that I could see that was non-compliant. I honestly cant remember if he was facing away, it is a possibility, but the adrenaline from all the shots and action was high. All in all though, I told everyone to put their hands up, and you do not have to be facing towards me to hear my VOIP, even if you are unarmed, you still have to comply to demands, i.e putting your hands up. I initiated on the group, most of them began firing at me, I began to shoot those who were non-compliant to my demands.

Share this post


Link to post

Outcome

RDM - INCONCLUSIVE

Explanation

To explain this situation, the staff team have reviewed this report and have come to the decision that on the evidence given. It is inconclusive. The reason this is inconclusive is because of the very little video evidence given to us cannot estimate when the initiation was dropped, whether or not @Gatorr had his hands up or not and makes this into a he said, she said scenario. We cannot come to a full conclusion of what may or may not of happened due to the conflicting evidence from both sides and the video evidence provides no context apart from being shot. Which we do not know for certain whether or not if the initiation was dropped beforehand and @Nik had re positioned or if the initiation was dropped then and there.

All we know is that the Time had heard word of mouth that the Muslims had 'stolen' from their camp and they went out hunting for them. Once they found them, the initiated and people where shot at for defence and shot at for attack. We cannot fully say, again, if this was invalid or not due to little evidence that provides us any context or video evidence to show who is telling the truth or not.

Verdict

@Dallas - RDM - INCONCLUSIVE - No punishment given

@JamesRP - RDM - INCONCLUSIVE - No punishment given

@Oiram - RDM - INCONCLUSIVE - No punishment given

Signed by @Mademoiselle and @Onyx

Share this post


Link to post
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...