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S1 KOS in Kabanino

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Server and location: Server 1 Outside kabanino

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME):  roughly 18:10

Your in game name: James McCoy

Names of allies involved: @NozzyRP 

Name of suspect/s: Unknown

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): none

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): 

Detailed description of the events: As myself Nozzy, and a few others were walking through Kabanino, we ran into a group of people standing by the side of the road, we started talking to them and we look back to see 2 guys get shot in Kabanino, me and Nozzy get behind a building and was just wondering what the fuck happened, when all of a sudden we start getting shot at, I kneel over to bandage and thats when I get shot 1 more time and die. We did not initiate on anyway, we simply ran through Kab and didnt say anything. Just completely random RDM.

I request that a staff member get the logs and find out who killed me, so that person can provide their POV.

Edited by JMZIE

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POV: Me and @JMZIE are walking through Kabinino and meet some people in pink armbands and start talking to them. A guy in black walks passed us and the pink armbands stop talking to us and follow him. A few minutes later the man in black kills both of the pink armband people and runs away. Me and JMZIE takes cover behind a house and we start getting shot at. I decide to run away up into the hills since i don't want to get involved. I run into a man who tells me to drop my gun and get out of town. I do what he asks and i leave Kabinino. 

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Hit Logs:

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18:09:30 | Player "Evgeni Malekhov" hit by Player "Daniel Levant" with SK 59/66 from 2.32974 meters 
18:09:30 | Player "Evgeni Malekhov" hit by Player "Daniel Levant" with SK 59/66 from 2.32974 meters 
18:09:30 | Player "Evgeni Malekhov" hit by Player "Daniel Levant" with SK 59/66 from 2.32974 meters
18:09:30 | Player "Hank Brooks" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 2.72834 meters 
18:09:30 | Player "Hank Brooks" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 2.72834 meters 
18:09:30 | Player "Hank Brooks" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 2.72834 meters 
18:09:30 | Player "Hank Brooks" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 2.72834 meters 
18:09:30 | Player "Hank Brooks" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 3.02131 meters 
18:09:30 | Player "Hank Brooks" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 3.02131 meters 
18:09:30 | Player "Hank Brooks" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 4.1915 meters 
18:09:30 | Player "Hank Brooks" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 4.1915 meters 
18:09:30 | Player "Hank Brooks" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 4.1915 meters 
18:09:30 | Player "Hank Brooks" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 4.1915 meters 
18:09:30 | Player "Evgeni Malekhov" hit by Player "Daniel Levant" with SK 59/66 from 2.32974 meters 
18:09:30 | Player "Evgeni Malekhov" hit by Player "Daniel Levant" with SK 59/66 from 2.32974 meters 
18:09:30 | Player "Evgeni Malekhov" hit by Player "Daniel Levant" with SK 59/66 from 2.32974 meters 
18:09:31 | Player "Daniel Levant" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 2.67389 meters 
18:09:31 | Player "Daniel Levant" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 3.06447 meters 
18:09:31 | Player "Daniel Levant" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 3.54217 meters 
18:09:31 | Player "Daniel Levant" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 3.54217 meters 
18:09:31 | Player "Daniel Levant" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 3.54217 meters 
18:09:31 | Player "Daniel Levant" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 3.54217 meters 
18:09:31 | Player "Daniel Levant" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 3.80856 meters 
18:09:31 | Player "Daniel Levant" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 3.80856 meters 
18:09:31 | Player "Daniel Levant" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 4.04331 meters 
18:09:32 | Player "Daniel Levant" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 4.45307 meters 
18:09:32 | Player "Daniel Levant" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 4.45307 meters 
18:09:32 | Player "Daniel Levant" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 4.45307 meters 
18:11:18 | Player "Pasha Novak" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 129.659 meters 
18:11:19 | Player "Pasha Novak" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 129.714 meters 
18:10:07 | Player "James McCoy" hit by Player "Vilem Cerny" with M16A4 from 223.844 meters 
18:11:06 | Player "James McCoy" hit by Player "Vilem Cerny" with M16A4 from 259.927 meters 
18:11:08 | Player "James Madsen" hit by Player "Viktor Petrov" with KA-M from 55.4614 meters 
18:11:10 | Player "James McCoy" hit by Player "Viktor Petrov" with KA-M from 49.9772 meters 
18:11:11 | Player "James McCoy" hit by Player "Viktor Petrov" with KA-M from 54.5544 meters
18:11:23 | Player "Dimitri Konashenkov" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 151.701 meters 
18:11:24 | Player "Dimitri Konashenkov" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 151.701 meters 
18:11:25 | Player "Dimitri Konashenkov" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 151.701 meters 
18:11:25 | Player "Dimitri Konashenkov" hit by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 151.701 meters 
18:11:30 | Player "James McCoy" hit by Player "Dimitri Konashenkov" with KA-M from 257.208 meters 
18:11:30 | Player "James McCoy" hit by Player "Dimitri Konashenkov" with KA-M from 257.208 meters 
18:11:30 | Player "James McCoy" hit by Player "Dimitri Konashenkov" with KA-M from 257.208 meters 
18:11:30 | Player "James McCoy" hit by Player "Dimitri Konashenkov" with KA-M from 257.208 meters
18:12:18 | Player "James Madsen" hit by Player "Vilem Cerny" with M16A4 from 259.191 meters  

 

Kill Logs:

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18:09:30 | Player "Hank Brooks" (DEAD) killed by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 2.72834 meters 
18:09:31 | Player "Daniel Levant" (DEAD) killed by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 2.67389 meters 
18:11:18 | Player "Pasha Novak" (DEAD) killed by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 129.659 meters
18:11:24 | Player "Dimitri Konashenkov" (DEAD) killed by Player "Evgeni Malekhov" with M1A SOCOM from 151.701 meters  
18:11:30 | Player "James McCoy" (DEAD) killed by Player "Dimitri Konashenkov" with KA-M from 257.208 meters

 

Position Logs:

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17:53:46 | Player "James McCoy" (pos=<4552.9, 9547.4, 342.8>) 
18:03:47 | Player "James McCoy" (pos=<5358.1, 8569.6, 331.8>) 
18:08:47 | Player "James McCoy" (pos=<5490.2, 8376.6, 336.9>)

17:58:46 | Player "Dmitry Bozik" (pos=<5407.7, 8567.8, 330.6>) 
18:03:47 | Player "Dmitry Bozik" (pos=<5359.4, 8569.0, 331.8>) 
18:08:47 | Player "Dmitry Bozik" (pos=<5488.6, 8377.1, 336.9>) 
18:13:48 | Player "Dmitry Bozik" (pos=<5231.7, 8374.7, 357.3>) 
18:18:48 | Player "Dmitry Bozik" (pos=<5329.3, 8703.6, 334.9>) 
18:23:49 | Player "Dmitry Bozik" (pos=<5197.1, 8410.1, 356.3>) 
18:28:50 | Player "Dmitry Bozik" (pos=<4374.5, 9334.6, 333.1>) 

17:58:46 | Player "Vilem Cerny" (pos=<6126.2, 8071.6, 342.0>) 
18:03:47 | Player "Vilem Cerny" (pos=<6166.7, 8005.3, 331.8>) 
18:08:47 | Player "Vilem Cerny" (pos=<5633.8, 8550.0, 319.4>) 
18:13:48 | Player "Vilem Cerny" (pos=<5628.0, 8557.5, 319.1>) 
18:18:48 | Player "Vilem Cerny" (pos=<5666.9, 8558.0, 318.7>) 
18:23:49 | Player "Vilem Cerny" (pos=<5618.9, 8564.2, 319.2>) 
18:28:50 | Player "Vilem Cerny" (pos=<5619.5, 8564.5, 319.2>)

17:58:46 | Player "Viktor Petrov" (pos=<6038.5, 7836.5, 300.7>) 
18:03:47 | Player "Viktor Petrov" (pos=<5912.6, 8019.6, 307.6>) 
18:08:47 | Player "Viktor Petrov" (pos=<5417.9, 8469.9, 334.4>) 
18:13:48 | Player "Viktor Petrov" (pos=<5378.2, 8542.0, 331.1>) 
18:18:48 | Player "Viktor Petrov" (pos=<5427.5, 8524.8, 330.3>) 
18:23:49 | Player "Viktor Petrov" (pos=<5459.7, 8510.6, 330.7>) 
18:28:50 | Player "Viktor Petrov" (pos=<5443.0, 8376.9, 340.9>) 

17:58:46 | Player "Dimitri Konashenkov" (pos=<6099.4, 8052.2, 335.9>) 
18:03:47 | Player "Dimitri Konashenkov" (pos=<6102.3, 8058.8, 337.9>) 
18:08:47 | Player "Dimitri Konashenkov" (pos=<5627.3, 8556.1, 319.2>) 
18:13:48 | Player "Dimitri Konashenkov" (pos=<3339.3, 4742.6, 266.8>) 
18:18:48 | Player "Dimitri Konashenkov" (pos=<3668.0, 6248.3, 366.6>) 
18:23:49 | Player "Dimitri Konashenkov" (pos=<4357.5, 7482.6, 298.3>) 
18:28:50 | Player "Dimitri Konashenkov" (pos=<5435.3, 8450.5, 335.0>)

17:58:46 | Player "James Madsen" (pos=<4351.5, 8267.9, 312.9>) 
18:03:47 | Player "James Madsen" (pos=<5280.4, 8584.9, 336.6>) 
18:08:47 | Player "James Madsen" (pos=<5492.4, 8376.0, 336.8>) 
18:13:48 | Player "James Madsen" (pos=<5749.5, 8185.7, 317.8>) 
18:18:48 | Player "James Madsen" (pos=<6049.7, 7841.3, 301.0>) 
18:23:49 | Player "James Madsen" (pos=<6059.4, 7860.2, 301.0>) 
18:28:50 | Player "James Madsen" (pos=<6050.9, 7860.3, 300.8>) 

17:58:46 | Player "Evgeni Malekhov" (pos=<6084.4, 7992.6, 315.8>) 
18:03:47 | Player "Evgeni Malekhov" (pos=<5895.8, 8050.5, 308.3>) 
18:08:47 | Player "Evgeni Malekhov" (pos=<5448.7, 8481.2, 331.7>) 
18:13:48 | Player "Evgeni Malekhov" (pos=<5515.4, 8455.2, 331.2>) 
18:18:48 | Player "Evgeni Malekhov" (pos=<5459.3, 8511.2, 330.7>) 
18:23:49 | Player "Evgeni Malekhov" (pos=<5461.8, 8510.6, 330.7>) 
18:28:50 | Player "Evgeni Malekhov" (pos=<5454.0, 8508.7, 330.7>) 

17:58:46 | Player "Hank Brooks" (pos=<5407.0, 8564.9, 330.5>) 
18:03:47 | Player "Hank Brooks" (pos=<5519.8, 8350.6, 335.1>) 
18:08:47 | Player "Hank Brooks" (pos=<5448.0, 8477.5, 331.9>) 

17:58:46 | Player "Daniel Levant" (pos=<5469.2, 8392.3, 336.8>) 
18:03:47 | Player "Daniel Levant" (pos=<5489.7, 8379.6, 336.9>) 
18:08:47 | Player "Daniel Levant" (pos=<5450.0, 8476.9, 332.0>) 

17:58:46 | Player "Pasha Novak" (pos=<6122.0, 8060.4, 340.4>) 
18:03:47 | Player "Pasha Novak" (pos=<6108.7, 8042.1, 334.3>) 
18:08:47 | Player "Pasha Novak" (pos=<5759.5, 8527.9, 318.6>) 

 

Chat Logs:

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17:55:56 | Chat("Viktor Petrov"): /jACKFISH on forums
18:02:05 | Chat("Viktor Petrov"): *offers him a handshake*
18:18:59 | Chat("Viktor Petrov"): *HANDS Him it*
18:19:02 | Chat("Viktor Petrov"): //jackfish on discord
18:58:16 | Chat("Viktor Petrov"): *takes it if he hands it over*

 

Connection Logs:

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17:59:02 | Player "James McCoy" is connected
-Died-

17:46:05 | Player "Dmitry Bozik" is connected
18:41:19 | Player "Dmitry Bozik" is connected
19:10:01 | Player "Dmitry Bozik" has been disconnected

17:34:07 | Player "Vilem Cerny" is connected
18:45:15 | Player "Vilem Cerny" is connected
19:28:56 | Player "Vilem Cerny" has been disconnected

17:41:19 | Player "Viktor Petrov" is connected
18:41:26 | Player "Viktor Petrov" is connected
19:09:24 | Player "Viktor Petrov" has been disconnected

17:33:41 | Player "Dimitri Konashenkov" is connected
-Died-

17:33:41 | Player "James Madsen" is connected
18:43:48 | Player "James Madsen" is connected
18:46:56 | Player "James Madsen" has been disconnected
18:49:56 | Player "James Madsen" is connected
19:13:25 | Player "James Madsen" has been disconnected
19:14:44 | Player "James Madsen" is connected
20:50:44 | Player "James Madsen" has been disconnected

17:43:15 | Player "Evgeni Malekhov" is connected
18:41:47 | Player "Evgeni Malekhov" is connected
19:38:07 | Player "Evgeni Malekhov" has been disconnected

17:33:56 | Player "Hank Brooks" is connected
-Died-

17:34:49 | Player "Daniel Levant" is connected
-Died-

17:34:26 | Player "Pasha Novak" is connected
-Died-

 

Calling in:

@JMZIE - James McCoy | POSTED
@NozzyRP - Dmitry Bozik | POSTED
@SquidProQuo - Vilem Cerny | POSTED
@Jackfish - Viktor Petrov | POSTED
@OxeN - Dimitri Konashenkov | POSTED
@Maadson - James Madsen | POSTED
@YNW Pep - Evgeni Malekhov | POSTED
@Hank Brooks - Hank Brooks | POSTED
@DanielFAILED - Daniel Levant | POSTED
@Zman44 - Pasha Novak | POSTED

For their full detailed POV. Along with any other evidence that they may have. Please also list all of your allies that were involved.

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So we heard that people were talking shit about the Chedaki in Kabanino so we decide to move up. When we arrived Pep spoke to two pink armbands (no clue what was said). Eventually I see two pink armbands raising their weapons but Pep kills them before I could even help him. I then spot 2 men running behind Kab lonely with their weapons out. Because I saw two people behind me putting their hands up (what you should do in a active firefight) I thought that the two men who ran behind the house with their weapons out were enemies. I wasn't completely sure so I decided to wait untill I opened fire. Eventually shots go off and I think (not sure) that I saw the two people shooting back at us. At this point I peak and shoot 2/3 bullets at the man who shot at my friend.

I want to state that even though they might got hit by accident they still decided to sprint around the building with their guns out instead of surrendering. This made it look like they were a part of the fight.

Edited by Jackfish

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POV: Me and my chedaki comrades were around stary when we get word from an informant that there are 6 pink armbands in kabanino saying they are going to hunt down all chedaki and kill us one by one. @YNW Pep and @Jackfish approaches them and begins conversing next to the lonely house outside kab on stary side. The rest of us wait in the woods to see how the situation will go down. 

Soon after they initiate on @YNW Pep and @Jackfish and are sprayed down in an instant as seen in the logs, two others run up the hill towards kab, next to the initiation i then spot two guys with their guns out right next to where we just started a firefight. So i and several others begin shooting them as they had their guns out and were hiding behind the building.

I am willing to talk this out with OP aswell as the rest of my boys who were involved. I would like to apologize for shooting you in the head, but you both had your guns drawn and were hiding behind a building seconds after a firefight erupted next to you. To avoid this in the future maybe put your hands up if you dont know what's going on and there's a firefight next to you.

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I had my gun out because there was a firefight and I hid behind the building because a shot had hit me so that’s when I decided to hide behind the building and I can understand why you would have shot me, the situation happened quite fast and unexpectedly, but you did apologize and I am willing to close this report, considering it isn’t a big issue anymore and you have apologized. I would like to see the rest of the POVs before I consider closing this report though. 

Edited by JMZIE

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POV: I was with @OxeN as @Jackfish and @YNW Pep were initiated on. We spotted two guys with their guns out hiding on the other side of a building from our guys who were initiated on. I was under the impression the guys with their guns out behind the house were part of the initiating party so I started shooting at them.

I apologize for shooting at the uninvolved people, it was a simple misunderstanding during a firefight. 

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POV: I was north of kabanino when our boys were initiated on. I scoped out the area and saw the two guys by the house taking cover during the firefight. I took a potshot at the initiators and then I got shot.

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Heres is my POV from before the "deathmatch", the middle of the fight and me complaining on stream afterwards. 

 

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Heard there were pink armbands looking to hunt and kill chedaki so i came to confront them, me and the 2 have a chat when i get initiated on, i spray them down and run away as i was super low on health. 

After some time and some miscommunication i kill 2 teamates by accident. 

Thats it for me 

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The following people will be tempbanned until they post their PoV:

@Hank Brooks @DanielFAILED

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So full story from my POV

I was solo for most of the morning, mid day i met a guy named hank, I was searching for the man who cut off my pinky and he was looking for a specific woman i didnt know, we decided to roll together to help each other out since we had similar goals, we started traveling to stary and met several others at a camp fire at sunset, in the morning we all grouped up and went to stary together, somewhere along the way (I don't know where as I was just following the others and didn't know where I was) A cherdaki guy passed us and hank and I wanted to ask him some questions to see if he knew either of the people we wanted to capture, mid way thru asking questions hank raised his gun and (from what I know) lowered it as a sign of intimidation I'm guessing, we weren't in discord so I dont know, and without ANY words of initiation or conflict the cherdaki guy gunned me and hank down, I managed to shoot him once before I died in self defense but i was taken down, thats as far as I can fill you in because I couldnt return to the scene afterwards

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@DanielFAILED Thank you for posting your POV. Your Temp Ban has been lifted

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So me and my friend @DanielFAILED met earlier. We were going around looking for certain people, at night we made a fire and it caught alot of attention. I did not get all their names but we were many. After a while when the sun had gone up we went out me @DanielFAILED and three others. And we all were heading towards Stary. We met two medics and a guy in black. We decided to ask him what group he was apart of and he mentioned the group we were after. So I lifted my gun to intimidate him and get more information about where the group was at. I raised my gun and before I even had time to talk he shot both me and @DanielFAILED. I have no clue of what happened afterwards but to me I felt it was no idea to report such an incident because my mic was a bit bad and it might just had been a misunderstanding.

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Thank you @Hank Brooks your Temp Ban has been lifted

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To ad, the other three and the two medics were probably 150+ meters away from us, they were not apart of me and @DanielFAILED engagement towards this guy

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Can you post the full video of the fight @Jackfish since you clearly have video evidence posted in the failed robberies thread

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10 minutes ago, Mademoiselle said:

Can you post the full video of the fight @Jackfish since you clearly have video evidence posted in the failed robberies thread

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Only evidence I have is a 13 second clip of @YNW Pep killing two people who initiated on him. I saved the last 5 min, cut his two kills out (bc he wanted it) and threw the rest away. Did this before the report was up. Had shit internet so couldn't upload the clip untill yesterday which I forgot so I put it in the "failed robberies thread" vid today

 

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@Randy @Mademoiselle @Xehara I dont think anymore evidence is needed, all the evidence you need was provided in Oxens POV, which was fairly accurate and to the point.

Edited by JMZIE

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26 minutes ago, JMZIE said:

@Randy @Mademoiselle @Xehara I dont think anymore evidence is needed, all the evidence you need was provided in Oxens POV, which was fairly accurate and to the point.

All evidence is required no matter what.
Now let's not make this into a back and forth. Only warning.

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Outcome:

@OxeN - Invalid Kill (Firefight) | Guilty

@Jackfish - Attempted Invalid Kill x2 | Guilty 

@SquidProQuo - Attempted Invalid Kill x2 | Guilty

Explanation:

To shortly summarize the situation. @YNW Pep was initiated on and then @OxeN@Jackfish & @SquidProQuo use their Defender Rights and start to shoot at the hostiles. They see some other people stand up the road by the house when they sprint behind it and they start to open fire on the people at the house.

Moving onto the rulebreaks:

@OxeN you shot and killed @JMZIE without have any Kill Rights making the Kill Invalid. Therefore you will be found guilty of Invalid Kill (Firefight). Next @Jackfish & @SquidProQuo you both will be found guilty of Attempted Invalid Kill x2 since you both shot at @JMZIE & @Maadson without having Kill Rights.

Rules that support this verdict:

  • 4.2 When your life is at risk or you are subjected to a hostile action by other players you are allowed to defend yourself. This is granted by two different "kill rights" that you can gain based on circumstances of the situation like which side caused the hostile situation and which side you are on.
    • If you are a defender - the one being initiated on or subjected to other hostile actions that threaten your life which you did not start or provoke - you are allowed to defend yourself by gaining DEFENDER RIGHTS on the attackers. Defender rights allow you to kill attackers for 2 hours or until your character dies. Defender rights can be shared with anyone who you recently role played with as well as all your group members, if you are a part of an approved group.
    • If you are an attacker - the one who first did the initiation or started, caused or provoked the hostile situation - you are allowed to defend yourself by gaining  ATTACKER RIGHTS on the defenders. Attacker rights allow you to kill defenders for 1 hour or until your character dies. Attacker rights can be only be shared with your approved group members. If you are not a part of an approved group, attacker rights can not be shared and apply only for your character.

Before I close out I would like to make a few suggestions. When it comes to hostile situations and using Kill Rights make sure that you are properly able to identify your target to make sure that you have those Kill Rights. If you are unsure if you have Kill rights or not it is always best to reinitiate just to be safe. When it comes to being around hostile situations or an initiation. If you are unaware or confused if it is you or not it is always best to make it look like you are not a threat to the people creating the hostile situation. Along with removing yourself from the area of the firefight as well.

Verdict:

@OxeN - Invalid Kill (Firefight) | Guilty - 2 Day Ban & 5 Warning Points

@Jackfish - Attempted Invalid Kill x2 | Guilty - 2 Day Ban & 10 Warning Points

@SquidProQuo - Attempted Invalid Kill x2 | Guilty - 2 Day Ban & 10 Warning Points

Signed by: @BrianM & @Randy w/ Notes

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