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S1 Invalid execution -20/05/2019

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Server and location: S1 at Lopatino camp

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME):  18:00 - 20/05/2019

Your in game name:  Hondo Hunt

Names of allies involved: @G19RP@NorwayRP@Eagle@ThrashRP

Name of suspect/s: Unknown

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): None

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): None

Detailed description of the events:  Well we had the Lopatino camp hostage and i was outside the camp having a smoke. Suddenly a group of black armbands run up and a megaphone from somewhere in the woods screams out "PUT YOUR FUCKING HANDS UP" and like 4 people point guns at me. I comply and put my hands up and follow the guys instructions. My hostage takers start taking shots and I’m sprayed down.

(It was a huge firefight afterwards btw and i don't really care about the after stuff but more about the initial execution)

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Kill Logs (UPDATED):

02:01:40 | Player "Cole Myer" (DEAD) killed by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 57.1995 meters 
02:01:42 | Player "Hondo Hunt" (DEAD) killed by Player "Mason Frost" with M4-A1 from 8.03788 meters 
02:02:17 | Player "Adam Finn" (DEAD) killed by Player "Oliver White" with LAR from 124.496 meters 
02:02:23 | Player "Leon Mars" (DEAD) killed by Player "Jakob Vasilev" with KA-M from 21.2426 meters 
02:02:35 | Player "Joey Apple" (DEAD) killed by Player "Lucas Williams" with M16A4 from 48.509 meters 
02:02:56 | Player "David Kingston" (DEAD) killed by Player "Stefan Reynir Jonson" with M1A SOCOM from 35.0734 meters 
02:03:40 | Player "Gabriel Leijonhufvud" (DEAD) killed by Player "Jude Sinclaire" with M1A SOCOM from 75.2388 meters 
02:07:38 | Player "Jakob Vasilev" (DEAD) killed by Player "Oliver White" with LAR from 15.0101 meters 
02:14:29 | Player "Jude Sinclaire" (DEAD) killed by Player "Jay Wong" with M1A SOCOM from 60.0847 meters 
02:17:21 | Player "Muhammad Modi" (DEAD) killed by Player "Vitaliy Makarovich" with LAR from 17.7776 meters 
02:17:33 | Player "Oliver White" (DEAD) killed by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 3.01278 meters 
02:24:01 | Player "Mason Frost" (DEAD) killed by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 29.3692 meters 

Hits (UPDATED):

02:01:16 | Player "Joey Apple" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 53.5524 meters 
02:01:32 | Player "Joey Apple" hit by Player "Jakob Vasilev" with KA-M from 67.1456 meters 
02:01:40 | Player "Cole Myer" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 57.1995 meters 
02:01:40 | Player "Cole Myer" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 57.1995 meters 
02:01:40 | Player "Cole Myer" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 57.7034 meters 
02:01:40 | Player "Cole Myer" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 57.7034 meters 
02:01:40 | Player "Cole Myer" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 57.7034 meters 
02:01:41 | Player "Hondo Hunt" hit by Player "Mason Frost" with M4-A1 from 6.16772 meters 
02:01:41 | Player "Hondo Hunt" hit by Player "Mason Frost" with M4-A1 from 6.44521 meters 
02:01:41 | Player "Hondo Hunt" hit by Player "Mason Frost" with M4-A1 from 6.68544 meters 
02:01:42 | Player "Hondo Hunt" hit by Player "Mason Frost" with M4-A1 from 8.03788 meters 
02:01:42 | Player "Hondo Hunt" hit by Player "Mason Frost" with M4-A1 from 8.20704 meters 
02:01:42 | Player "Hondo Hunt" hit by Player "Mason Frost" with M4-A1 from 8.48001 meters 
02:01:42 | Player "Hondo Hunt" hit by Player "Mason Frost" with M4-A1 from 8.65914 meters 
02:01:42 | Player "Hondo Hunt" hit by Player "Mason Frost" with M4-A1 from 9.58705 meters 
02:02:08 | Player "Fyodr Belokov" hit by Player "David Kingston" with M4-A1 from 82.2834 meters 
02:02:09 | Player "Fyodr Belokov" hit by Player "David Kingston" with M4-A1 from 83.0349 meters 
02:02:10 | Player "Fyodr Belokov" hit by Player "David Kingston" with M4-A1 from 82.3131 meters 
02:02:12 | Player "Joey Apple" hit by Player "Lucas Williams" with M16A4 from 73.1722 meters 
02:02:17 | Player "Adam Finn" hit by Player "Oliver White" with LAR from 124.496 meters 
02:02:17 | Player "Adam Finn" hit by Player "Oliver White" with LAR from 124.496 meters 
02:02:17 | Player "Adam Finn" hit by Player "Oliver White" with LAR from 124.496 meters 
02:02:17 | Player "Adam Finn" hit by Player "Oliver White" with LAR from 124.496 meters 
02:02:23 | Player "Leon Mars" hit by Player "Jakob Vasilev" with KA-M from 21.2426 meters 
02:02:34 | Player "Joey Apple" hit by Player "Lucas Williams" with M16A4 from 49.1967 meters 
02:02:35 | Player "Joey Apple" hit by Player "Lucas Williams" with M16A4 from 48.509 meters 
02:02:35 | Player "Lucas Williams" hit by Player "Joey Apple" with CR-61 Skorpion from 48.5043 meters 
02:02:35 | Player "Lucas Williams" hit by Player "Joey Apple" with CR-61 Skorpion from 48.5043 meters 
02:02:35 | Player "Joey Apple" hit by Player "Lucas Williams" with M16A4 from 48.9723 meters 
02:02:52 | Player "Lucas Williams" hit by Player "David Kingston" with M4-A1 from 86.2209 meters 
02:02:53 | Player "Lucas Williams" hit by Player "David Kingston" with M4-A1 from 86.4292 meters 
02:02:56 | Player "Lucas Williams" hit by Player "David Kingston" with M4-A1 from 83.5355 meters 
02:02:56 | Player "David Kingston" hit by Player "Stefan Reynir Jonson" with M1A SOCOM from 35.0734 meters 
02:02:56 | Player "David Kingston" hit by Player "Stefan Reynir Jonson" with M1A SOCOM from 35.0734 meters 
02:02:56 | Player "David Kingston" hit by Player "Stefan Reynir Jonson" with M1A SOCOM from 35.0734 meters 
02:02:56 | Player "David Kingston" hit by Player "Stefan Reynir Jonson" with M1A SOCOM from 35.0734 meters 
02:02:58 | Player "David Kingston" hit by Player "Stefan Reynir Jonson" with M1A SOCOM from 36.8869 meters 
02:03:39 | Player "Gabriel Leijonhufvud" hit by Player "Jude Sinclaire" with M1A SOCOM from 75.7986 meters 
02:03:40 | Player "Gabriel Leijonhufvud" hit by Player "Jude Sinclaire" with M1A SOCOM from 75.2388 meters 
02:07:38 | Player "Jakob Vasilev" hit by Player "Oliver White" with LAR from 15.0101 meters 
02:07:38 | Player "Jakob Vasilev" hit by Player "Oliver White" with LAR from 15.0101 meters 
02:07:47 | Player "Jude Sinclaire" hit by Player "Frantisek Dewski" with M16A4 from 50.2453 meters 
02:10:24 | Player "Jimmy Lorenzo" hit by Player "Jude Sinclaire" with LAR from 79.3076 meters 
02:12:45 | Player "Jude Sinclaire" hit by Player "Jay Wong" with M1A SOCOM from 63.7688 meters 
02:14:29 | Player "Jude Sinclaire" hit by Player "Jay Wong" with M1A SOCOM from 60.0847 meters 
02:14:29 | Player "Jude Sinclaire" hit by Player "Jay Wong" with M1A SOCOM from 60.0847 meters 
02:14:30 | Player "Jude Sinclaire" hit by Player "Jay Wong" with M1A SOCOM from 61.1671 meters 
02:14:32 | Player "Jude Sinclaire" hit by Player "Jay Wong" with M1A SOCOM from 61.5444 meters 
02:14:32 | Player "Jude Sinclaire" hit by Player "Jay Wong" with M1A SOCOM from 61.5444 meters 
02:14:32 | Player "Jude Sinclaire" hit by Player "Jay Wong" with M1A SOCOM from 61.5453 meters 
02:14:32 | Player "Jude Sinclaire" hit by Player "Jay Wong" with M1A SOCOM from 61.5453 meters 
02:14:32 | Player "Jude Sinclaire" hit by Player "Jay Wong" with M1A SOCOM from 61.5453 meters 
02:14:32 | Player "Jude Sinclaire" hit by Player "Jay Wong" with M1A SOCOM from 61.5453 meters 
02:14:33 | Player "Jude Sinclaire" hit by Player "Jay Wong" with M1A SOCOM from 61.5451 meters 
02:14:33 | Player "Jude Sinclaire" hit by Player "Jay Wong" with M1A SOCOM from 61.5451 meters 
02:16:49 | Player "Jakub Tureck" hit by Player "Oliver White" with LAR from 17.7968 meters 
02:17:21 | Player "Muhammad Modi" hit by Player "Vitaliy Makarovich" with LAR from 17.7776 meters 
02:17:21 | Player "Muhammad Modi" hit by Player "Vitaliy Makarovich" with LAR from 17.7776 meters 
02:17:21 | Player "Muhammad Modi" hit by Player "Vitaliy Makarovich" with LAR from 17.7776 meters 
02:17:22 | Player "Muhammad Modi" hit by Player "Vitaliy Makarovich" with LAR from 18.8966 meters 
02:17:23 | Player "Muhammad Modi" hit by Player "Vitaliy Makarovich" with LAR from 19.2198 meters 
02:17:23 | Player "Muhammad Modi" hit by Player "Vitaliy Makarovich" with LAR from 19.2198 meters 
02:17:23 | Player "Muhammad Modi" hit by Player "Vitaliy Makarovich" with LAR from 19.2198 meters 
02:17:33 | Player "Oliver White" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 3.01278 meters 
02:17:33 | Player "Oliver White" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 2.76263 meters 
02:17:33 | Player "Oliver White" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 2.78849 meters 
02:17:33 | Player "Oliver White" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 2.79062 meters 
02:17:33 | Player "Oliver White" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 3.13768 meters 
02:17:33 | Player "Oliver White" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 3.36831 meters 
02:17:33 | Player "Oliver White" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 3.41327 meters 
02:19:21 | Player "Mason Frost" hit by Player "Lucas Williams" with M16A4 from 93.3912 meters 
02:23:12 | Player "Jay Wong" hit by Player "Mason Frost" with M4-A1 from 27.6285 meters 
02:23:31 | Player "Jay Wong" hit by Player "Mason Frost" with M4-A1 from 19.019 meters 
02:23:31 | Player "Jay Wong" hit by Player "Mason Frost" with M4-A1 from 18.3814 meters 
02:23:53 | Player "Mason Frost" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 48.8259 meters 
02:24:01 | Player "Mason Frost" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 29.3692 meters 
02:24:01 | Player "Mason Frost" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 29.3692 meters 
02:24:01 | Player "Fyodr Belokov" hit by Player "Mason Frost" with M4-A1 from 29.3704 meters 
02:24:04 | Player "Mason Frost" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 29.6522 meters 
02:24:04 | Player "Mason Frost" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 29.6522 meters 
02:24:04 | Player "Mason Frost" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 29.6522 meters 
02:24:04 | Player "Mason Frost" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 29.6522 meters 
02:24:04 | Player "Mason Frost" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 29.6522 meters 
02:24:04 | Player "Mason Frost" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 29.6522 meters 
02:24:05 | Player "Mason Frost" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 29.6523 meters 
02:24:05 | Player "Mason Frost" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 29.6523 meters 
02:24:05 | Player "Mason Frost" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 29.6523 meters 
02:24:05 | Player "Mason Frost" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 29.6523 meters 
02:24:05 | Player "Mason Frost" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 29.6523 meters 
02:24:05 | Player "Mason Frost" hit by Player "Fyodr Belokov" with LAR from 29.6523 meters 
02:24:15 | Player "Mason Frost" hit by Player "Vitaliy Makarovich" with LAR from 0.705036 meters

Connection Logs (UPDATED):

01:44:00 | Player "Adam Finn" is connected
02:02:24 | Player "Adam Finn" has been disconnected

01:48:32 | Player "David Kingston" is connected
02:10:18 | Player "David Kingston" has been disconnected

01:46:33 | Player "Fyodr Belokov" is connected
02:31:23 | Player "Fyodr Belokov" is connected
03:48:48 | Player "Fyodr Belokov" has been disconnected

01:54:29 | Player "Gabriel Leijonhufvud" is connected
02:03:51 | Player "Gabriel Leijonhufvud" has been disconnected
02:04:40 | Player "Gabriel Leijonhufvud" is connected
02:07:59 | Player "Gabriel Leijonhufvud" has been disconnected
02:08:54 | Player "Gabriel Leijonhufvud" is connected
02:28:00 | Player "Gabriel Leijonhufvud" is connected
02:48:05 | Player "Gabriel Leijonhufvud" has been disconnected

01:44:24 | Player "Hondo Hunt" is connected
02:01:52 | Player "Hondo Hunt" has been disconnected

01:26:56 | Player "Jakob Vasilev" is connected
01:53:12 | Player "Jakob Vasilev" is connected
02:07:55 | Player "Jakob Vasilev" has been disconnected
02:08:49 | Player "Jakob Vasilev" is connected

01:48:41 | Player "Jay Wong" is connected
02:33:12 | Player "Jay Wong" is connected
04:52:10 | Player "Jay Wong" has been disconnected

01:51:47 | Player "Joey Apple" is connected
02:03:15 | Player "Joey Apple" has been disconnected
02:03:37 | Player "Joey Apple" is connected

01:47:56 | Player "Jude Sinclaire" is connected

01:46:34 | Player "Leon Mars" is connected
02:04:20 | Player "Leon Mars" has been disconnected

02:30:51 | Player "Lucas Williams" is connected
02:32:25 | Player "Lucas Williams" has been disconnected
02:35:27 | Player "Lucas Williams" is connected
08:25:49 | Player "Lucas Williams" has been disconnected

01:48:43 | Player "Mason Frost" is connected
02:24:38 | Player "Mason Frost" has been disconnected

01:48:26 | Player "Muhammad Modi" has been disconnected
01:52:52 | Player "Muhammad Modi" is connected
02:17:57 | Player "Muhammad Modi" has been disconnected

01:46:13 | Player "Oliver White" is connected
02:18:52 | Player "Oliver White" has been disconnected
02:49:53 | Player "Oliver White" is connected
02:52:05 | Player "Oliver White" has been disconnected
02:52:41 | Player "Oliver White" is connected
03:04:17 | Player "Oliver White" has been disconnected

01:47:33 | Player "Stefan Reynir Jonson" is connected
02:30:58 | Player "Stefan Reynir Jonson" is connected
03:39:20 | Player "Stefan Reynir Jonson" has been disconnected

01:54:21 | Player "Vitaliy Makarovich" is connected
02:28:30 | Player "Vitaliy Makarovich" is connected
08:25:49 | Player "Vitaliy Makarovich" has been disconnected

Calling In (UPDATED):

Allies:

@MrPanda - Hondo Hunt | POSTED

@G19RP - Fyodir Belokov | POSTED

@NorwayRP - Vitaliy Makarovich | POSTED

@Eagle - Stefan Reynir Jonson | POSTED

@ThrashRP - Jakub Tureck | POSTED

@Real Vegas - Lucas Williams | POSTED

@WongRP - Jay Wong | POSTED

@OxeN - Gabriel Leijonhufvud | POSTED

Accused:

@Dannick - Mason Frost | POSTED

Accused Allies:

@AidanVC - Jude Sinclaire | POSTED

@Opticillunitic - Oliver White | POSTED

@dany1 - Muhammad Modi | POSTED

@Captain Von - Cole Myer | POSTED

@Powerjake - David Kingston | POSTED

Other Firefight Participants:

@FrankFurger - Joey Apple | TEMP BAN

@IotaSilver - Leon Mars | TEMP BAN

For your full PoVs, as well as any video evidence of the situation you may have and do not contribute to any back and forth.

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Norway POV: Went afk during the hostage situation cause the dog threw up on my bed, which broke my heart. I then proceeded to come back from my sad circumstance to hear someone initiate. I rallied up with the lads and muted my radio to direct the hostages on what to do, and to keep them safe. After a while I unmuted and got into the fight proper. I killed a guy at the main gate, then pushed out to save wong. I wasn't aware that Panda had been killed till later, however, the Megaphone initiation in my opinion was invalid. Megaphone initiations are usually bound to this example, "Hello my name is Vitaliy Makarovich with the House, I'm in the field behind you. To the large group running towards Pustoshka put your hands up now or you will be fired upon." However, the Accused initiated as so "Hello, my name is _________ everyone in the camp put your hands up or die."

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Vegas POV: We're hanging around eden during a hostage situation when someone drops a meme over the megaphone about apples or something then initiates, i take shots at the initiator and watch in horror as the innocent man Panda was gunned down infront of my very eyes.  I end up killing one who was ramboing towards me with an smg then get lit up and just chill tryna heal for the rest of the fight.

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Updated logs and called in other firefight participants. 

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POV: So me and the boys are at Eden with several hostages, as someone drops an initiation. I hear shots around the forest  before seeing @MrPanda with his hands up in front of the camp, as we attempt to return fire from the camp, I catch a glimpse of someone running up to Panda before gunning him down as he complies. The rest of the fight carries on as we finish off the rest of the attackers.

Edited by ThrashRP

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POV: attacked camp eden with dead batteries and house, after a while we are informed a lot of black armbands are coming to liberate the camp. Soon after a megaphone initiation follows and we start taking shots, i'm then killed by someone who didn't initiate.

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POV: Get asked over radio by someone from Eden to come kill all the orange armbands taking it over. We agree and head over to the camp. After initiations the firefight ensues where I’m positioned up on the rocks tasked with only watching the towers. I shoot at a couple people before getting shot in the back by someone and killed. I personally do not have any information pertaining to Hondo’s execution as I wasn’t directly present with the squad of us that did it. All I really know about the situation is Dannick radioing and saying something along the lines of “I’m trying to get this guy to follow me and he’s just sitting here and laughing at me.” Then he gets shot at and says he’s killed him. 

Edited by AidanVC
Originally said I didn’t kill anyone, according to logs I did

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Oliver White POV: Received a radio call requesting our services at Camp Eden. It was asked that we kill the orange armbands, and saved the prisoners who were being held. Myself and Aidan were posted on some rocks, where we shot and killed several orange armbands. I was killed after pushing up to the wall to support Dany and Dannick. I had no direct view of MrPanda's execution, only a radio message informing me of it.

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MUHAMMAD MODI 'MODI MUNDI' POV: Received radio call with the group I was with to Camp Eden. I was following orders given to me and I went to push to get a shot off, and I got shot and died. I had no view of Mr Pandas Execution

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Hello, this situation was a huge cluster fuck as panda gets initiated on I think? followed by a megaphone initiation that was relaid in a trolly manner with a troll voice, after that shots start flying from all sides and the fight rages on every single attacker that tried died in the process and we continue on with our hostage situation.
No footage from me.

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POV: We were called in over the radio to come rescue people that were held up in camp Eden by orange armbands, the individual said he wanted the orange armbands dead, this radio call was about 20 minutes prior to this situation if I can remember correctly. We roll up and I call over the radio that there is a guy outside. So Joey Apples initiated on them, I told the guy outside to put his hands up and he did so, I told him to walk towards me multiple times in the matter of 5 seconds, I was on the side of the road and he continued to walk down the road towards me but never walked directly towards me. We started taking fire and I decided to execute the hostage as I didn't see anything wrong with it at the time, Although now I've realized that I am at fault here and it was generally shit RP to do. 

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I was the one to fire the first shots.   Well after seeing the video, I guess I wasn't the first to shoot.

We took people hostage at the camp. I was going around just providing whatever roleplay I could and security along with some others, in case anyone ever showed up. Some time passes and I'm in a watchtower closest to where we had the hostages and someone initiates via the megaphone. At the time, I didn't see that Panda was out on the dirt road. I saw one of the initiators pointing their weapons in our direction and took the shot. Sadly, my AK was set to full auto, and instead of firing one, I fired a few dozen rounds and never knew if I hit any with them. Then, someone says over coms that Panda was executed. Then the firefight breaks out, and I ended up killing one who tried pushing in the back entrance. I was killed later on through a gap in the wall.

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Was in radio with the boys looking for food around the castle and Lop when they initiated on Eden I still low on food run over to lop where I run into the boys that got wacked in this firefight where they tell me they are going to camp Eden to liberate it, I ask a couple more questions "What's going on at Eden" "should I stay away from there" and they did little roleplay before sprinting like crazy towards my boys. I follow and let my boys know troubles on the way and to be careful they initiate on my boy so being the only Shooter on the outside I wait till the time is right I see someone lacking in the woods take a couple shots BAM hit a couple times. The bastard survived somehow, I run around find him hiding in the tree and lay down the smoke. I run around abit more get hit a couple time the boys save me and I live to tell the tale

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We are holding up the camp, people come to rescue. They invalidly initiate and begin to RDM us. Personally do not want to see them punished for this as I do not agree with how the rules regarded it are written and acted upon, but it did happen. My video shows it all. 

 

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@FrankFurger, @Captain Von, @IotaSilver, & @Powerjake

Will all be Temp Banned until they provide their full detailed POV and provide any video evidence that they may have.

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: Get asked over radio by someone from Eden to come kill all the orange armbands taking it over. We agree and head over to the camp. After initiations the firefight ensues where I’m sitting there at the back gate initiating, they don't listen so we open fire. I shot a guy twice then got 1 tapped. Had nothing to do with eexcited john. But I don't think it's dannicks fault because he had a hostage and he still was getting shot at or whatever. I was right next to silver and modi mundi when this happened. I didn't kill a single soul

 

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@Powerjake Thank you for posting your POV. Your Temp Ban has been lifted 

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Please do not do any useless back and forth! If we have questions we will ask!

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POV: We arrived at camp Eden, Frank initiated through mega phone, I seen someone peeking out of tower, I started shooting and died.

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@Captain Von Thank you for posting your PoV your temporary ban has been lifted.

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@Dannick - Mason Frost | Invalid Kill, Attempted Invalid Kill

@AidanVC- Jude Sinclaire | Invalid Kill

@Opticillunitic - Oliver White | Invalid Kill x2, Attempted Invalid Kill x2

@Powerjake - David Kingston | Attempted Invalid  Kill x2

Summary:

Dynamic Group known as "House" in conjunction with hired associates among the approved group "Dead Batteries" and unaffiliated persons take Camp Eden hostage. Someone from within the camp radios to the Dynamic Group known as "Ravens" to aid in the liberation of the hostages. Upon arriving, @FrankFurger drops an initiation via megaphone and a firefight ensues. @MrPanda puts his hands up to comply and is subsequently executed. 

First, let's address the initiation. Initiations from megaphones must be done in clear line of sight of those being initiated on while stating who is initiating, why, and what the demands are. Because everyone targeted was not sure where the initiation was coming from, or who was attacking them, this makes the initiation invalid. Furthermore, as an Unapproved Group / Dynamic Group, everyone individually involved in the initiation must also initiate to get involved in the situation. This means all of the "Ravens" who did not initiate held no rights until they did so. The "House" gained defender rights because you initiated on the camp, also granting any hostages inside defense rights on the initiator or shooters as well. Finally, the execution. @MrPanda had his hands up, meaning he was from that point a complying hostage. You may not execute a complying hostage, thus making his execution invalid. 

In the future, we advise that you have all of your associates initiate together if you are in a Dynamic, and take better care of a hostage (IE, not executing them). 

The rules that support the verdict are seen below:

  • 4.1 All initiations and hostile actions as well as their demands and conditions must be made clear and unambiguous to all involved players. Hostile actions or initiations must be done personally and on specific targets who must be aware who the attacker is, for example they cannot be done remotely through radio or PA system.
  • 4.6 If you successfully capture a player through a hostile action and then take him into your custody, he is now considered your hostage. You must do everything in your power to keep your hostages alive and in a relatively good health. That includes protecting them from external threats like zombies and leaving them with a realistic chance of survival when they are released. A character that is taken hostage may be executed once for a hostile incident that happened in the past where the hostage was personally responsible for, or participated in a death of your ally. In any other circumstances, hostages may only be executed in the following scenarios:
    • Hostages do not comply with your demands after repeated requests or try to escape.
    • Hostages pose a direct threat to you or your group, for example by picking up a weapon when not allowed to.
    • Hostages do not value their life, for example they repeatedly talk back or insult you despite being told to stop.
    • Approved group of the hostage or their allies refuse to negotiate or open fire on hostage takers.
    • Demands from negotiations with approved group of the hostage have not been met after a reasonable time has elapsed.

Verdict: 

@Dannick - Mason Frost | Invalid Kill (Firefight), Attempted Invalid Kill | Guilty - 2 day ban 10 warning points

@AidanVC- Jude Sinclaire |  Invalid Kill (Firefight) | Guilty - 2 day ban 5 warning points

@Opticillunitic - Oliver White |  Invalid Kill (Firefight) x2, Attempted Invalid Kill x2 | Guilty - 3 day ban 10 warning points (Aggravated because there were 4 rule breaks)

@Powerjake - David Kingston | Attempted Invalid Kill x2 | Guilty - 2 day ban 10 warning points

@FrankFurger and @IotaSilver will remain temporarily banned until they create a ban appeal with their PoV.

Signed: @Mademoiselle, @Randy & @Xehara

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