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S1 - Invalid Kill(s) and No Time To Comply - 2019-05-15, 00:30 - Severograd

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Server and location: S1 Severograd

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME):   2019-05-15, 00:30

Your in game name:  Fyodr Belokov

Names of allies involved: Some of The House Boys, @Kai @YNW BorisOGRBRP @ThrashRP @SeversonRP

Name of suspect/s: No Clue

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): None

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): 

Detailed description of the events: Were role-playing with a random guy who just logged in while we were in his base, turns out earlier in the day he had initiated on RebelRP. We have him hostage when we hear a massive volley of shots. Unsure of what it was, we peak out of the camp and look around, as I move up to a shed I get sprayed down, as I go to run, I run into one guy and he sprays me down killing me. Same story for the majority of my boys involved. Afterwards I leave the channel to speak to Boris, he tells me he got initiated on and while trying to comply he gets killed. Now, it is important to note that A, if he was trying to comply his death was invalid, and B we are not an official or approved group; therefore, we must all be initiated on in order to fairly be killed. None of us knew what had happened as Boris died quickly and couldn't relay any info, and none of us got initiated on, just shot at and sprayed down. Some time after my men protect themselves and fire back at the people invalidly shooting them from the surrounding area, only to be killed. It is also important to note that we believe one man did come up and initiate on the camp after the original kills, making all subsequent kills after that valid. From my interpretation of the rule 4.3, any kills that have rights gained from a rule break, are then considered invalid as well. From what I see, BorisRP claims to be killed while trying to comply, meaning that his death was invalid, and if the attackers perceived his death as valid and continued the attack on us, thinking we are approved or official the validity of their kills would rely on the validity of Boris's death. However, we are neither official or approved, meaning the attackers do not gain rights on us from Boris's "no-comply" (which, keep in mind is being argued here), meaning that they needed to initiate on us before killing us. As some members of my group are still alive and in the area I do not know their perspectives and I will continue to edit this as they fill me in.

I'm also more than willing to speak with those involved.

Edited by G19RP

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We'll post our PoV's once we're done with RP. 🙂 

Didn't realise the time, I'll post when I'm free tomorrow after Uni.

Edited by Mexi

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Boris POV:

 

We hade someone hostage at severo and as things were calm and nice I decided to run away and start my timer in a red little shed. As I walk up to the shed and I open the door someone screams PUT YOUR HANDS UP PUT YOU FUCKING HANDS UP NOW. And about the second after I close the door and scream Im putting my hands up and I put my hands up and are shoot uncon then another volley of shoots come and im killed 

Im just screaming IM PUTING MY HANDS UP over and over and the shoots just wont stop they just keep on coming volley after volley

 

I went uncon and woke up and got insta killed by a volley of shoots 

Edited by YNW BorisOGRBRP

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Maxmilian Vitek Myska POV:

We are calmly moving around the northern highway when we decide to visit the small settlement on the north of Severograd, as we approach we notice a bunch of men with red armbands climbing around on the top.

As far as we are concerned this is not the original owners of that camp, and we immediately get skeptical. After a bit of waiting around and scouting out the place one of the members of The House (BorisRP) exits the camp and moves towards my location. We decide to initiate. As I run up behind BorisRP, I shout at him to put his hands up repeatedly while aiming my rifle at him, this was right as he touched the door handle. Boris then proceeds to carefully navigate around the open door, inside the shed and then closes the door as he is looking in my direction.

At that point I lose line of sight, I have not heard anything from him and visually it appears he is not complying, so I light up the shed. After that, all I hear is a muffled scream and we assume he is dead. I move back to the back of the green hut and as I do a very distinct sound of a rifle being fired from the compound, I ask if they just shot at us and we all confirm that it was aimed at us.

After this we are immediately rushed by the large group wearing identical armbands with weapons in hand. Considering we had been shot at after we killed BorisRP, it was safe to assume that they were exercising their rights to fight, and thus we fought.

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00:42:19 | Player "Boris Orlov" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into RightHand(47) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 14.8203 meters 
00:42:19 | Player "Boris Orlov" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into RightLeg(4) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 15.2163 meters 
00:42:20 | Player "Boris Orlov" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into LeftLeg(10) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 16.074 meters 
00:42:23 | Player "Boris Orlov" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into RightLeg(5) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 19.543 meters 
00:42:23 | Player "Boris Orlov" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into LeftLeg(11) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 19.543 meters 
00:42:23 | Player "Boris Orlov" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into LeftLeg(11) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 19.543 meters 

00:42:37 | Player "Boris Orlov" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into LeftArm(32) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 26.6771 meters 
00:42:37 | Player "Boris Orlov" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into Torso(25) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 26.6771 meters 


00:43:05 | Player "Alexandr Kozak" hit by Player "Jimmy Lorenzo" into Torso(23) for 17 damage (Bullet_762x39) with KA-M from 108.904 meters 
  
00:43:08 | Player "Fyodr Belokov" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into LeftArm(29) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 3.89338 meters 
00:43:08 | Player "Fyodr Belokov" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into Torso(23) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 3.50534 meters 
00:43:08 | Player "Fyodr Belokov" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into LeftArm(32) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 3.15287 meters 
00:43:08 | Player "Fyodr Belokov" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into Head(0) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 2.21923 meters 
00:43:09 | Player "Fyodr Belokov" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into RightArm(31) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 1.95589 meters

00:43:16 | Player "Jimmy Lorenzo" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into Torso(12) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 110.652 meters.
00:43:38 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into Torso(16) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 56.5941 meters 
  
00:43:39 | Player "Mikhail Barta" hit by Player "Oliver OBrien" into Head(0) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_308Win) with M70 Tundra from 93.5377 meters 
  
00:43:40 | Player "Jakub Tureck" hit by Player "Josa Vacek" into Torso(25) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 32.1978 meters 
  
00:43:46 | Player "Fyodr Belokov" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into LeftLeg(10) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 8.41837 meters 
00:43:46 | Player "Fyodr Belokov" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into Torso(24) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 8.4123 meters 

00:43:59 | Player "Josa Vacek" hit by Player "Jakub Tureck" into RightHand(47) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 63.4059 meters 
  
00:44:03 | Player "Rustin Jones" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into Torso(24) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 8.59837 meters 
00:44:03 | Player "Rustin Jones" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into LeftArm(29) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 8.54831 meters 
00:44:03 | Player "Rustin Jones" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into Head(0) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 8.49384 meters 
00:44:04 | Player "Rustin Jones" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into RightHand(47) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 8.45489 meters 
  
00:44:09 | Player "Mikhail Barta" hit by Player "Niko Sullivan" into RightLeg(5) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 70.6597 meters.

00:44:32 | Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" hit by Player "Ivan Petrenkov" into LeftArm(29) for 34 damage (Bullet_762x39) with SK 59/66 from 4.06609 meters 
00:44:32 | Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" hit by Player "Ivan Petrenkov" into Spine(40) for 34 damage (Bullet_762x39) with SK 59/66 from 4.06609 meters 
00:44:32 | Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" hit by Player "Ivan Petrenkov" into Torso(25) for 17 damage (Bullet_762x39) with SK 59/66 from 4.06609 meters 
00:44:32 | Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" hit by Player "Ivan Petrenkov" into Torso(24) for 17 damage (Bullet_762x39) with SK 59/66 from 4.06609 meters 
00:44:32 | Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" hit by Player "Ivan Petrenkov" into Torso(23) for 17 damage (Bullet_762x39) with SK 59/66 from 4.1137 meters 
  
00:44:33 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into Torso(26) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 3.68238 meters 
00:44:33 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into LeftArm(18) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 3.49961 meters 
00:44:33 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska"  into Torso(24) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 3.49961 meters 
  
00:44:33 | Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" hit by Player "Ivan Petrenkov" into LeftArm(18) for 34 damage (Bullet_762x39) with SK 59/66 from 3.51477 meters 
00:44:33 | Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" hit by Player "Ivan Petrenkov" into Torso(25) for 17 damage (Bullet_762x39) with SK 59/66 from 3.51477 meters 
  
00:44:33 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into Torso(15) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 4.26783 meters 
  
00:44:33 | Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" hit by Player "Ivan Petrenkov" into Torso(16) for 34 damage (Bullet_762x39) with SK 59/66 from 4.3898 meters 

00:44:34 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into Torso(24) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 4.82398 meters 
00:44:34 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into Lungs(49) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 4.82398 meters 
  
00:44:38 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into Torso(16) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 8.00522 meters 
00:44:38 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into Heart(44) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 8.00522 meters 
00:44:38 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into Torso(24) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 8.00522 meters 
00:44:38 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into Lungs(48) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 8.00522 meters 
00:44:38 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into Torso(24) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 8.00522 meters 
00:44:38 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into Torso(24) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 8.00493 meters 
00:44:38 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into Torso(7) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 8.00526 meters 
00:44:38 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into Torso(26) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 8.00526 meters 

00:44:38 | Player "Unknown/Dead Entity" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into LeftLeg(9) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 9.30339 meters 
  
00:44:49 | Player "Mikhail Barta" hit by Player "Jakub Tureck" into Torso(16) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 133.644 meters 
  
00:44:49 | Player "Jakub Tureck" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into RightArm(17) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 133.644 meters 
00:44:49 | Player "Jakub Tureck" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into RightArm(19) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 133.644 meters 
00:44:49 | Player "Jakub Tureck" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into RightArm(19) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 133.644 meters

00:45:00 | Player "Oliver OBrien" hit by Player "Ruda Kasparek" into Torso(14) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_308Win) with LAR from 42.3266 meters 

00:45:06 | Player "Jakub Tureck" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into LeftArm(18) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 153.979 meters 
00:45:07 | Player "Jakub Tureck" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into Torso(15) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 155.51 meters

00:45:32 | Player "Jimmy Lorenzo" hit by Player "Yuri Izanov" into Torso(14) for 17 damage (Bullet_762x39) with KA-M from 159.797 meters 
00:45:35 | Player "Jimmy Lorenzo" hit by Player "Yuri Izanov" into Torso(36) for 17 damage (Bullet_762x39) with KA-M from 169.574 meters


00:50:06 | Player "Alexandr Kozak" hit by Player "Jakub Tureck" into RightArm(30) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 12.9909 meters
  
00:50:18 | Player "Jakub Tureck" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into LeftArm(21) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 2.86767 meters 
00:50:18 | Player "Jakub Tureck" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into LeftArm(22) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 2.86767 meters 
  
00:50:18 | Player "Jakub Tureck" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into Torso(7) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 10.5107 meters 
00:50:19 | Player "Jakub Tureck" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into Torso(24) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 9.30455 meters 

00:50:19 | Player "Jakub Tureck" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into LeftArm(32) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 1.66801 meters 
00:50:19 | Player "Jakub Tureck" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into Head(0) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 1.59308 meters
  
00:50:21 | Player "Jakub Tureck" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into RightArm(30) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 5.52124 meters 
00:50:21 | Player "Jakub Tureck" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into Torso(1) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 5.52124 meters 
00:50:21 | Player "Jakub Tureck" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into Torso(23) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 5.52124 meters 


0:56:32 | Player "Mikhail Barta" hit by Player "Niko Sullivan" into Torso(16) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 26.2569 meters 
  
00:56:39 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Yuri Izanov"  into RightArm(20) for 34 damage (Bullet_762x39) with KA-M from 127.833 meters 
00:56:39 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Yuri Izanov" into Torso(24) for 17 damage (Bullet_762x39) with KA-M from 128.152 meters 
  
00:56:46 | Player "Alexandr Kozak" hit by Player "Niko Sullivan" into Torso(12) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 14.0632 meters 
00:56:46 | Player "Alexandr Kozak" hit by Player "Niko Sullivan" into LeftArm(29) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 13.683 meters 
00:56:46 | Player "Alexandr Kozak" hit by Player "Niko Sullivan" into Torso(25) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 13.683 meters 

00:56:56 | Player "Ruda Kasparek" hit by Player "Niko Sullivan" into Torso(15) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 5.81482 meters 
00:56:56 | Player "Ruda Kasparek" hit by Player "Niko Sullivan" into LeftArm(18) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 5.66265 meters 
00:56:56 | Player "Ruda Kasparek" hit by Player "Niko Sullivan" into Torso(24) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 5.66265 meters 
00:56:56 | Player "Ruda Kasparek" hit by Player "Niko Sullivan" into LeftHand(46) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 5.65543 meters 
00:56:57 | Player "Ruda Kasparek" hit by Player "Niko Sullivan" into RightArm(19) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 5.29208 meters 
00:56:57 | Player "Ruda Kasparek" hit by Player "Niko Sullivan" into Torso(24) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 4.93656 meters 
00:56:57 | Player "Ruda Kasparek" hit by Player "Niko Sullivan" into RightArm(17) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 4.67464 meters 
00:56:58 | Player "Ruda Kasparek" hit by Player "Niko Sullivan" into RightArm(19) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 3.67744 meters 
00:56:58 | Player "Ruda Kasparek" hit by Player "Niko Sullivan" into RightArm(20) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 3.68066 meters 
00:56:58 | Player "Ruda Kasparek" hit by Player "Niko Sullivan" into RightArm(19) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 3.68066 meters 
00:56:58 | Player "Ruda Kasparek" hit by Player "Niko Sullivan" into RightArm(17) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 3.50867 meters 
  
00:57:06 | Player "Oliver OBrien" hit by Player "Josa Vacek" into Torso(1) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 1.8593 meters 
  
00:57:06 | Player "Josa Vacek" hit by Player "Oliver OBrien" into RightArm(17) for 100 damage (Bullet_12GaugeSlug) with BK-133 from 1.96006 meters 
00:57:09 | Player "Oliver OBrien" hit by Player "Josa Vacek" into Head(0) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 2.94455 meters 

00:57:09 | Player "Oliver OBrien" hit by Player "Josa Vacek" into RightArm(30) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 2.93901 meters 
00:57:09 | Player "Oliver OBrien" hit by Player "Josa Vacek" into Torso(1) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 2.93901 meters 
00:57:09 | Player "Oliver OBrien" hit by Player "Josa Vacek" into Head(0) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 2.40617 meters 
00:57:10 | Player "Oliver OBrien" hit by Player "Josa Vacek" into Lungs(49) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 2.62928 meters 
00:57:10 | Player "Oliver OBrien" hit by Player "Josa Vacek" into Torso(1) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 2.62928 meters 
00:57:10 | Player "Oliver OBrien" hit by Player "Josa Vacek" into Torso(24) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 2.74753 meters 

00:57:18 | Player "Niko Sullivan" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into RightArm(17) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 16.7991 meters 
  
00:57:18 | Player "Mikhail Barta" hit by Player "Niko Sullivan" into Torso(15) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 17.1508 meters
  
00:57:19 | Player "Niko Sullivan" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta") into RightArm(19) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 17.7516 meters 
00:57:21 | Player "Niko Sullivan" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into RightArm(19) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 18.1773 meters 
00:57:21 | Player "Niko Sullivan" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into LeftArm(22) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 18.1829 meters 
00:57:21 | Player "Niko Sullivan" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into RightArm(19) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 18.2363 meters 
00:57:21 | Player "Niko Sullivan" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into Torso(24) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 18.2363 meters 
00:57:36 | Player "Niko Sullivan" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into Torso(34) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 6.68018 meters 
00:57:37 | Player "Niko Sullivan" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into RightLeg(6) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 6.68018 meters 
00:57:37 | Player "Niko Sullivan" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into RightArm(30) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 6.68018 meters 
00:57:37 | Player "Niko Sullivan" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into Head(0) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 6.68018 meters
  
00:57:37 | Player "Niko Sullivan" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into RightLeg(6) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 6.68018 meters 
00:57:37 | Player "Niko Sullivan" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into Torso(16) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 6.68018 meters 

00:58:01 | Player "Josa Vacek" hit by Player "Eduardo Garcia" into LeftArm(29) for 34 damage (Bullet_12GaugePellets) with BK-133 from 4.81517 meters 
00:58:01 | Player "Josa Vacek" hit by Player "Eduardo Garcia" into LeftArm(32) for 34 damage (Bullet_12GaugePellets) with BK-133 from 4.81517 meters 
00:58:01 | Player "Josa Vacek" hit by Player "Eduardo Garcia" into Torso(24) for 17 damage (Bullet_12GaugePellets) with BK-133 from 4.81517 meters 
00:58:01 | Player "Josa Vacek" hit by Player "Eduardo Garcia" into LeftArm(21) for 34 damage (Bullet_12GaugePellets) with BK-133 from 4.81517 meters 
00:58:01 | Player "Josa Vacek" hit by Player "Eduardo Garcia" into LeftArm(32) for 34 damage (Bullet_12GaugePellets) with BK-133 from 4.81517 meters 
00:58:01 | Player "Josa Vacek" hit by Player "Eduardo Garcia" into Torso(24) for 17 damage (Bullet_12GaugePellets) with BK-133 from 4.81517 meters 

00:58:01 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" (pos=<8156.8, 13136.9, 154.2>) hit by Player "Josa Vacek" (pos=<8160.3, 13139.9, 154.2>) into LeftArm(18) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 4.58883 meters 
00:58:01 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Josa Vacek" into LeftArm(22) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 4.58883 meters 
00:58:01 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Josa Vacek" into Torso(25) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 4.58883 meters 
00:58:01 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Josa Vacek" into LeftHand(46) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 4.36224 meters 
00:58:01 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Josa Vacek" into RightHand(47) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 4.36224 meters 
00:58:01 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Josa Vacek" into RightArm(17) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 4.36224 meters 
00:58:01 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Josa Vacek" into RightArm(19) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 4.36224 meters 
00:58:01 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Josa Vacek" into LeftHand(46) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 4.46141 meters 
00:58:01 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Josa Vacek" into RightHand(47) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 4.46141 meters 
00:58:01 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Josa Vacek" into RightArm(17) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 4.46141 meters

0:58:06 | Player "Eduardo Garcia"  hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into RightLeg(6) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 12.5404 meters 
  
00:58:07 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into RightArm(31) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 10.3656 meters 
00:58:07 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into Torso(24) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 10.3656 meters 
  
00:58:07 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into Torso(16) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 12.5404 meters 
  
00:58:07 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into RightArm(31) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 10.3656 meters 
00:58:07 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into Torso(24) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 10.3656 meters 
00:58:07 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into Lungs(49) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 10.3656 meters   
00:58:08 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into RightArm(30) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 10.3656 meters 
00:58:08 | Player "Eduardo Garcia"  hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into Torso(1) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 10.3656 meters 
00:58:08 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into Torso(24) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 10.3656 meters 
00:58:08 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into RightArm(31) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 10.3656 meters 
00:58:08 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into Lungs(49) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 10.3656 meters 
00:58:08 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta" into Torso(24) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 10.3656 meters 
00:58:08 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" hit by Player "Mikhail Barta"  into Torso(16) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 10.3656 meters

 

Kill logs:

 
 
 
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00:42:24 | Player "Boris Orlov" is unconscious
00:42:24 | Player "Boris Orlov" regained consciousness
00:42:24 | Player "Boris Orlov" is unconscious
00:42:37 | Player "Boris Orlov" killed by Player "Mikhail Barta" with M4-A1 from 26.6771 meters 

00:44:33 | Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" killed by Player "Ivan Petrenkov" with SK 59/66 from 4.3898 meters 
 
00:43:08 | Player "Fyodr Belokov" killed by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" with M4-A1 from 2.21923 meters
  
00:44:03 | Player "Rustin Jones" killed by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" with M4-A1 from 8.49384 meters

00:44:34 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" killed by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" with M4-A1 from 4.82398 meters 
  
00:50:19 | Player "Jakub Tureck" killed by Player "Mikhail Barta" with M4-A1 from 9.30455 meters 

00:56:58 | Player "Ruda Kasparek" killed by Player "Niko Sullivan"  with M4-A1 from 3.67744 meters 

00:57:09 | Player "Oliver OBrien" killed by Player "Josa Vacek" with M4-A1 from 2.94455 meters 

00:57:26 | Player "Niko Sullivan" is unconscious
00:57:37 | Player "Niko Sullivan" killed by Player "Mikhail Barta" with M4-A1 from 6.68018 meters 

00:58:01 | Player "Josa Vacek” killed by Player "Eduardo Garcia" with BK-133 from 4.81517 meters 

00:58:01 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" killed by Player "Josa Vacek" with M4-A1 from 4.46141 meters 
  

 

Connection logs:

 
 
 
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23:44:47 | Player "Fyodr Belokov"  is connected
-Dead-

23:25:57 | Player "Boris Orlov" is connected
-Dead-

23:29:12 | Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" is connected
-Dead-

23:30:16 | Player "Mikhail Barta" is connected
02:15:58 | Player "Mikhail Barta" has been disconnected

23:29:35 | Player "Alexandr Kozak" is connected
02:16:29 | Player "Alexandr Kozak" has been disconnected

00:31:19 | Player "Jimmy Lorenzo" is connected
01:47:21 | Player "Jimmy Lorenzo" has been disconnected

23:26:56 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" is connected
-Dead-

23:31:28 | Player "Oliver OBrien" is connected
00:57:18 | Player "Oliver OBrien" has been disconnected
00:57:52 | Player "Oliver OBrien" is connected
01:00:38 | Player "Oliver OBrien" has been disconnected

23:30:07 | Player "Jakub Tureck" is connected
-Dead-

23:29:29 | Player "Josa Vacek" is connected
-Dead-

23:44:47 | Player "Fyodr Belokov" is connected
-Dead-

23:27:57 | Player "Niko Sullivan" is connected
01:00:22 | Player "Niko Sullivan" has been disconnected

23:25:17 | Player "Eduardo Garcia" is connected
-Dead-

23:54:52 | Player "Ruda Kasparek" is connected
-Dead-

23:25:42 | Player "Yuri Izanov" is connected
02:16:38 | Player "Yuri Izanov" has been disconnected

 

Calling  in the following people for their full detailed POV and possible video evidence 

Allies:

@ZorullRP - Jimmy Lorenzo:

@SeversonRP  - Ivan Petrenkov:

@Hex - Oliver OBrien:

@ThrashRP - Jakub Tureck:

@Kai - Rustin Jones:

@RebelRP - Eduardo Garcia: 

@YNW BorisOGRBRP - Boris Orlov: POSTED

@Nikoteen - Niko Sullivan:

Accused:

 @California - Mikhail Barta: 

@Ducky - Maxmilian Vitek Myska:

@Mexi - Alexandr Kozak: 

@Veryniceperson - Josa Vacek:

@Chernon - Ruda Kasparek

@Chow - Yuri Izanov

 

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We had a hostage slightly north of severograd, after spending almost an hour roleplaying with him I hear a spray of shots, i unmute my comms to hear "im taking shots, im taking shots" by teammates, after a series of shots at me and others its clear we're being attacked, I hold back in the base a bit then eventually I trade with one of the attackers.

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Niko Sullivan's POV: 

 

I do not have a recording but here's what happened:

We were all roleplaying at the at a base we raided north of Severograd like everyone in The House can state. I myself was walking around and getting shit for my self and the boys and so on until I hear an AK go off. Everyone was wondering if they were directed to us until @YNW BorisOGRBRP got killed so at no one knew was dead or initiated on so the boys start moving to the shots and get ready and a few of the boys end up getting shot out of nowhere and get killed. A few of our boys got a few trades and whatever aswell. Then all I do is turn my head from the tallest tower in the base and see like, 6 guys bum rushing the base from the Hill behind us. They end up getting in by boosting after a few of used died from outside so there was a total of 4 of us left in the base I believe. After a few minutes, I un-con and kill one that got in that tried pushing me under the tower and then I get wall banged and get killed.

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Sorry for the editing, I'm exhausted bare with me fuck.

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CaliPOV: Approach a camp that we've seen some people at a handful of times, see some people, so we end up sending someone in to see who it is(since she was tagging along with us ). We got told red armbands(which we had no idea who it was at the time since we have no idea who wears red armbands), she also mentions that they have hostages.

 

So we decide to set up and observe, and see how it plays out. Me, VNP, Mexi, and Ducky move over to a small group of houses to the South East of the compound they were in, and watched. We were about to run up and initiate before Boris (in a yellow rain coat) runs right at us, we initiate and he ducks into a metal shed. We lit up the shed before we get shot at by someone at the camp and proceed to have 2 or so House members run towards us while 2 other move over to a barn and into the small tree-line that was on our northern flank.

They began to push and shoot at us and we returned fire on those rushing and shooting at us. We run up to the actual compound after clearing the barn area, I initiate alongside a few more yelling like 'Make a smart decision and put your guns down!' or something before one shoots at Mexi as we make entrance. We clear the inside of the compound before finally pushing the house and freeing the hostages.

 

As you can see, after we initiate on Boris, who runs into a shed and closes it with a shotgun out, we shoot him through the wall. We heard no sound coming from him, and no indication of him complying since he instantly ran for cover with a gun in his hands as the initiation dropped.

 

We then proceed to take shots from the camp, as seen in the logs here:

 

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We wait for them to start returning fire (as you see Jimmy Lorenzo shooting Mexi, then 3 seconds after that G19 and some others begin to push us at our little housing complex where we killed Boris). They begin to rush us, already stated here

 

1 hour ago, NikoteenRP said:

Everyone was wondering if they were directed to us until @YNW BorisOGRBRP unmutes from TS and says he was so we all get ready and a few of the boys bum rush them and end up killing a few by trades and whatever.

IDK how a dead guy is talking in radio, but we'll just go from that.

The only shots we shot at that time were at Boris until they began to return fire at us(jimmy on mexi), in which case we began to kill those who began to fire and rush towards us.

 

After that, we roll up to the camp (where they were either hiding in the house or in towers), initiate a few times saying things like 'Hands up, don't make stupid decisions like your friends, etc.' They run for cover and hold angels, shit talking in return (making it clear they heard the initiation and were in range) as we began to push and clear the compound, freeing the hostages after killing the people inside who weren't complying.

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- REFER TO OTHER POST -

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Myself and the boys met up and headed to the Severograd base after one of our members had gone there to give the people there our terms for House's trade arrangement . After a time we grouped and made our way to the camp itself and found it empty. While loitering around there and deciding where to go next, a guy logs in within the camp and we initiate. After a very brief period of non-compliance, he surrenders and we move inside the camp to RP with him. After well over thirty minutes of RP, we hear a massive amount of shots nearby and begin to try and figure out what happened. A number of our boys move to the location of the shots just outside to see whats going on and are killed without a word said. As that is happening I jump up in one of the towers with my rifle and begin to call out for the boys on the ground. After seeing a number of guys down there aim at me and I believe they shoot at me/hit the tower before I start to shoot at people aiming at me and killing my friendlies. 

Mostly everyone on our side is killed outside and I get hit a few times from the North. I duck down off the tower and whip out my handy-dandy-shotgun and start to hold one of the openings and ready myself for the inevitable push. Time passes, I shoot at a few of them as they push in and get killed later on inside the compound. 

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8 minutes ago, California said:

IDK how a dead guy is talking in radio, but we'll just go from that.

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Alexandr Kozak PoV:

We go to check out a compound to see if the owners are still around to have a chat before we find somewhere to finish up RP and log, as we get closer we notice people jumping from the roof to watch towers wearing what we thought to be Red or Orange armbands due to not being able to tell from a distance we send someone to check and confirm it was indeed The House.

Once confirming we all move into different positions to start a surrounded push onto the compound, as we were about to a man in a yellow raincoat starts to bolt towards Ducky me and 1 other, he is initiated upon and instead of complying he walks into the small red shed and said shed is lit up shortly after the door is closed, on my screen there was ample time for Boris to comply, no attempts to talk or shout anything were heard and he was killed.

We hold our positions and a shot rings out from the compound in our direction and I hear snap(s). Someone on the north end of the compound calls out that a number of people in orange armbands funnel out of the main entrance with 2-3 pushing towards us and another 2-3 pushing the red roof barn. Ducky kills the 2-3 that push up on the left side of the green house (as shown below) whom said nothing and raise their weapons while the rest of us await shots to be fired at us. Unfortunately Ducky trades with the last.

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00:43:08 | Player "Fyodr Belokov" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into LeftArm(29) for 34 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 3.89338 meters

00:44:03 | Player "Rustin Jones" hit by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" into Torso(24) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 8.59837 meters

00:44:32 | Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" hit by Player "Ivan Petrenkov" into LeftArm(29) for 34 damage (Bullet_762x39) with SK 59/66 from 4.06609 meters

00:43:08 | Player "Fyodr Belokov" killed by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" with M4-A1 from 2.21923 meters
00:44:03 | Player "Rustin Jones" killed by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" with M4-A1 from 8.49384 meters
00:44:34 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" killed by Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" with M4-A1 from 4.82398 meters 

- Ducky dying in through trading
00:44:33 | Player "Maxmilian Vitek Myska" killed by Player "Ivan Petrenkov" with SK 59/66 from 4.3898 meters


I peek to the right side of a shed next to the green house and am tagged by a man in what I can only remember wearing a white jumper, shoes and orange armband, at which point I repeek and tag him before going back behind the house and bandaging.

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00:43:05 | Player "Alexandr Kozak" hit by Player "Jimmy Lorenzo" into Torso(23) for 17 damage (Bullet_762x39) with KA-M from 108.904 meters

00:43:16 | Player "Jimmy Lorenzo" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into Torso(12) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 110.652 meters.

Prior to this I notice a man with a winchester(?) or another bolt action rifle, also with an orange armband peaking and aiming towards us which is a hostile act and at which point shots are returned, multiple shots from a bolt action rifle were heard prior to this. 

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- Before he hit his shot I hit him

00:43:38 | Player "Ivan Petrenkov" hit by Player "Alexandr Kozak" into Torso(16) for 17 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4-A1 from 56.5941 meters 

- Literally a second after he hit someone in the head

00:43:39 | Player "Mikhail Barta" hit by Player "Oliver OBrien" into Head(0) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_308Win) with M70 Tundra from 93.5377 meters

 

Cali and I push the red roof which all doors are closed on, we open all 4 and as we do, I am hit. We wait for a moment before pushing in and I spray and kill the guy inside, we reload and push to the compound wall.

- Not sure who that was 100% tbh or which log it is.

As I reach the wall I reinitiate on the compound for all those inside, we all push in, finish who is left, rescue who was captive and leave.

 

I'd like to turn the GM's and Moderators that will look over this' attention to the facts.

Those who may or may not have shot, who were killed, had defence rights on us, yes.. IF we shot someone who didn't attempt to RUSH us and attempt to use the defence rights they gained from us killing Boris, then I'd totally understand the reasoning behind this report. 
However, you are apart of a dynamic. Boris was wearing an orange armband to identify himself to your group members, as were the rest of you. MULTIPLE of you pushed out of the compound towards where the shots were coming from and flanked to get shots onto us, as shown from the shots coming down from Red barn onto myself. IF you had stayed inside the compound and we then proceeded to shoot you while you hunkered down without an initiation I'd 100% understand but you KNOWINGLY pushed us with the intent to kill, nothing else and pretending to say otherwise is an outright lie and you know this.

The same situation has occurred in a report where Cipher initiated on Nihoo in an open field and because he killed Cipher AND you, you then put up a report attempting to play the rules as a shield with the intent to use them to get someone else banned however @Roland saw through that and proceeded to punish which would be the reason for the archival of your Irish group Na Buachailli Glasa as well as your final warning, as shown below.

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If you still would like to have a conversation about this one on one so the conversation isn't a shouting match, let me know.

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VNPOV: We were at a group of houses a little ways from the big compound. Yellow rain jacket guy with an orange armband comes over and Ducky initiates and the guy opens the door walks around it enters the shed and closes the door behind him, we take that as non-compliance and open fire, killing him. We get shot at by someone in one of the towers with an orange armband as multiple people with orange armbands leaving the base and move towards us. I take fire and am hit and take cover. Several orange armband-wearing people push Ducky and are killed. After we clear the surrounding area we push into the base. A man walks out of the green building with his hands up so I order him to face a shed wall. A man with an orange armband pushes out of the green building and attempts to shoot me and I kill him, then another pushes out and shoots at some of my comrades, who I then trade with.

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Ill start with Boris not complying. He is on his way to a shed to wait his thirty and log, as he starts going in the super loud scream initiation happens, while hes closing the door. He was given no time to comply, and you can see in the video as he puts his gun away his mic icon pops up. He states he was screaming that he was compliant, which he was as he puts his gun away and attempts to put his hands up, only to be killed anyways. As your initiation had not yet finished, and the pure shock of being monkey'd out of no where, you cannot reasonably believe he intentionally closed that door to go non compliant. That is suicide in every way and makes no sense. As for your claims that we shot first, it is utterly wrong. You are trying to use the logs to prove that we fired first, but I was being shot at, and others were, but we weren't hit. The following video shows this.

https://plays.tv/s/MCmRGTPIfa1h

This video belongs to @ZorullRP who will post a POV soon.

I was behind that shed and even mistook the shots as friendly fire because we were so confused on what was happening. Those shots were you guys spraying at me, only for Zorull to see this and fire back. Giving you rights on him as he was acting in defense. Bringing up the previous Nihoo report is unfair IMO, as the situation was different in many ways, for one in that situation I knew who we were dealing with and I called Cipher for help. Vastly different from what occurred here. All in all as we are not an official group, we do not get the aggressive benefits of such, and with that other groups should not receive the defensive benefits against us. That's unfair in every way. If I wanted to be malicious here I wouldn't have offered to talk it out with you guys, and I would've needed to know who I was maliciously pursuing. The claim is unfair and the evidence I provided shows me being shot at, and my boys without an initiation and without firing first.

 

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3 minutes ago, G19RP said:

Ill start with Boris not complying. He is on his way to a shed to wait his thirty and log, as he starts going in the super loud scream initiation happens, while hes closing the door. He was given no time to comply, and you can see in the video as he puts his gun away his mic icon pops up. He states he was screaming that he was compliant, which he was as he puts his gun away and attempts to put his hands up, only to be killed anyways. As your initiation had not yet finished, and the pure shock of being monkey'd out of no where, you cannot reasonably believe he intentionally closed that door to go non compliant. That is suicide in every way and makes no sense. As for your claims that we shot first, it is utterly wrong. You are trying to use the logs to prove that we fired first, but I was being shot at, and others were, but we weren't hit. The following video shows this.

https://plays.tv/s/MCmRGTPIfa1h

This video belongs to @ZorullRP who will post a POV soon.

I was behind that shed and even mistook the shots as friendly fire because we were so confused on what was happening. Those shots were you guys spraying at me, only for Zorull to see this and fire back. Giving you rights on him as he was acting in defense.

The video shows you pushing up to EXACTLY where Boris was killed, what were your intentions doing this? Nothing in what you posted shows you doing anything that doesn't show as an offensive move onto our position. 

- Orange armband (Boris) was just killed exactly where you sprinted up to
- You had your weapon out
- Listening to your comms your video clearly shows audio of you all advancing on the position with the intent to attack

8 minutes ago, G19RP said:

Bringing up the previous Nihoo report is unfair IMO, as the situation was different in many ways, for one in that situation I knew who we were dealing with and I called Cipher for help. Vastly different from what occurred here. All in all as we are not an official group, we do not get the aggressive benefits of such, and with that other groups should not receive the defensive benefits against us. That's unfair in every way. 

Just because you don't know who it was doesn't make your intent, in our eyes any less malicious.

You pushed straight onto our position shortly after Boris is killed for non-compliance, as provided in the video you posted as well as the comms included in said video. The video posted is also missing around 30-40 seconds of you taking the time to both decide to push and actually performing said push. Pretending that your intent and actions as shown with audio wasn't to push and continue fighting after doing so, shows malicious intent for this report. You made the decision to do so, lost and here we are.

12 minutes ago, G19RP said:

That's unfair in every way. If I wanted to be malicious here I wouldn't have offered to talk it out with you guys, and I would've needed to know who I was maliciously pursuing. 

Which we are still willing to do if you would like to also, however we'd rather a one on one with mediation to keep things civil and on topic, with both sides coming to an understanding.

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Yuri Izanov POV:

I was covering the compound from the northern hills, just above the camp. I am told by friendlies they initiated on a man who pushed to their location, and right after the people from the camp begin firing on their position. I move to a better spot with eyes on the compound and await confirmation over radio that they have been engaged in CQC, as men wearing orange armbands from the opposing side pushed my boys location, and I proceed to stay as over watch, spotting targets as I see them. It was clear they were using defense right to go on the offensive.

Half way into the engagement, I catch a man flanking north from the compound. I ID him as the same man that engaged my boys near a shed, as well as his armband, so I took shots on him, hitting him twice.

Farther into the fight, I am still covering the boys from the hill. I spot a man firing out the door of the main building so I take shots on him, hitting him a couple times. The boys then quickly clear out the surrounding area, as well as the compound itself. I move into the compound, we roleplay with the people left, take a look around and leave.

Let me know if I will be needed for anything else.

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7 minutes ago, Mexi said:

The video shows you pushing up to EXACTLY where Boris was killed, what were your intentions doing this? Nothing in what you posted shows you doing anything that doesn't show as an offensive move onto our position. 

- Orange armband (Boris) was just killed exactly where you sprinted up to
- You had your weapon out
- Listening to your comms your video clearly shows audio of you all advancing on the position with the intent to attack

Like I said in my original POV, we leave the compound to investigate the shots, hence why I was against the shed. I don't know how else to put that, we heard a volley of shots, figured it was someone trying to distract us from the camp, we bite, head over to it and get mowed down.

9 minutes ago, Mexi said:

Just because you don't know who it was doesn't make your intent, in our eyes any less malicious.

You pushed straight onto our position shortly after Boris is killed for non-compliance, as provided in the video you posted as well as the comms included in said video. The video posted is also missing around 30-40 seconds of you taking the time to both decide to push and actually performing said push. Pretending that your intent and actions as shown with audio wasn't to push and continue fighting after doing so, shows malicious intent for this report. You made the decision to do so, lost and here we are.

Again mexi, it didn't take 30-40 seconds, the logs show this after I first get HIT. But the video shows me and others getting shot at before it. We never plotted to push you guys offensively. we were investigating what sounded like a distraction and got RDM'd for it.

Id also like to point at that aiming a weapon isn't a hostile action Mexi, you claim someone on the hill aimed a Winchester, which was a "hostile action". False, as seen in countless other reports a man aiming his weapon to scope out an area that we are approaching is not hostile, you have no proof that any of us shot at you guys before we approached, and we have provided evidence of us getting shot before we returned fire.

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Ruda Kasparek POV:

I was sitting inside a house west of the compound, watching the compound through the windows. I heard over comms someone was running towards some of the guys who were outside the base, then I heard ducky initiate through comms. Right after that I heard a bunch of automatic fire, but waited in the house to the west. Then I heard someone in the compound wearing an orange armband shot at my guys, then I waited a little bit behind the house before pushing to the compound to see someone in a tower crouched with their gun out wearing the same armband as the guys shooting at my guys, so I shot the guy in the tower, then stood outside the compound waiting for people to push up. Soon after pushing inside, we take automatic fire from inside the house, and i take cover inside a shed in front of the house. Then Mexi got shot out of nowhere by someone from behind the shed I was in, so I push out and around the shed, then get killed as I attempt to return fire.

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1 hour ago, G19RP said:

Like I said in my original POV, we leave the compound to investigate the shots, hence why I was against the shed. I don't know how else to put that, we heard a volley of shots, figured it was someone trying to distract us from the camp, we bite, head over to it and get mowed down.

Again mexi, it didn't take 30-40 seconds, the logs show this after I first get HIT. But the video shows me and others getting shot at before it. We never plotted to push you guys offensively. we were investigating what sounded like a distraction and got RDM'd for it.

Thankfully someone quoted this supposed 'mistake' prior to the edit.

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1 hour ago, G19RP said:

Id also like to point at that aiming a weapon isn't a hostile action Mexi, you claim someone on the hill aimed a Winchester, which was a "hostile action". False, as seen in countless other reports a man aiming his weapon to scope out an area that we are approaching is not hostile, you have no proof that any of us shot at you guys before we approached, and we have provided evidence of us getting shot before we returned fire.

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- Orange Armband
- Aiming at us after we initiate and killed his non-compliant friend
- Shot at for clearly attempting to get a shot as he is clearly involved

Also if I said hill, which I don't think I did, I apologise. I mean the slope about 2 trees up behind this log pile/ fence.

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1 hour ago, G19RP said:

Again mexi, it didn't take 30-40 seconds, the logs show this after I first get HIT. But the video shows me and others getting shot at before it. We never plotted to push you guys offensively. we were investigating what sounded like a distraction and got RDM'd for it.

I'll put timestamps with what's just been given to me.

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First 30 seconds is us preparing to push.

0:32 - We notice a man in yellow (Boris) coming towards us
0:39 - Boris is initiated upon
0:45 - Door is closed and shots ring out and after missing nearly a mag, Boris makes no attempt to open the door to show compliance and even in his video, his hands are not up until the very last second. Pay attention to the fact he made no attempt to verbally surrender or reopen the door. In his own footage it shows him going back and forth and the option to open the door was available 3-5 times, not once was it taken. Only at 0:48 was there an attempt to speak verbally, even then it wasn't audible enough to make out.
1:09 - Shots could be seen hitting the side of the shed, that'd be me shooting through the shed attempting to hit the Boris.
1:11 - A Bolt-Action shot is fired towards us from the compound
1:14 - One of the OP's people are in the tower the shot came from at the time which is shortly confirmed by Ducky that we have rights on that person.
 

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1:19 - First person pushes up onto the shed and is shot at 
1:35 - First person moves from the shed attempting to flank, Ducky catches him out and kills him.
1:45 - Ducky's second kill on someone moving around to our flank, again.
1:52 - Someone jumps the fence to get a position on Ducky and attempts the flank, again.
 

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2:57 - Ducky's third and final kill which ended in a trade.

The shots that I fired into the people as shown in the logs after the time of Ducky's kills was to check if they had been fully killed.

Also, previously we have been told and threatened with points for 'meme' images or titles to do with report videos.. We'd appreciate if you could ask people to not do things that relate to a Spongebob meme which refers to people as being idiots for your titles and remain civil, thanks.

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Just to clarify, we are now counter reporting for the exact reason @Roland made in the report verdict he has made previously, which will be added below in a spoiler. Due to the nature of the said report, this would be us pushing for 'False Report'.

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49 minutes ago, Mexi said:

Thankfully someone quoted this supposed 'mistake' prior to the edit.

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- Orange Armband
- Aiming at us after we initiate and killed his non-compliant friend
- Shot at for clearly attempting to get a shot as he is clearly involved

Also if I said hill, which I don't think I did, I apologise. I mean the slope about 2 trees up behind this log pile/ fence.

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I'll put timestamps with what's just been given to me.

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First 30 seconds is us preparing to push.

0:32 - We notice a man in yellow (Boris) coming towards us
0:39 - Boris is initiated upon
0:45 - Door is closed and shots ring out and after missing nearly a mag, Boris makes no attempt to open the door to show compliance and even in his video, his hands are not up until the very last second.
1:09 - Shots could be seen hitting the side of the shed, that'd be me shooting through the shed attempting to hit the Boris.
1:11 - A Bolt-Action shot is fired towards us from the compound
1:14 - One of the OP's people are in the tower the shot came from at the time which is shortly confirmed by Ducky that we have rights on that person.
 

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1:19 - First person pushes up onto the shed and is shot at 
1:35 - First person moves from the shed attempting to flank, Ducky catches him out and kills him.
1:45 - Ducky's second kill on someone moving around to our flank, again.
1:52 - Someone jumps the fence to get a position on Ducky and attempts the flank, again.
 

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2:57 - Ducky's third and final kill which ended in a trade.

The shots that I fired into the people as shown in the logs after the time of Ducky's kills was to check if they had been fully killed.

Also, previously we have been told and threatened with points for 'meme' images or titles to do with report videos.. We'd appreciate if you could ask people to not do things that relate to a Spongebob meme which refers to people as being idiots for your titles and remain civil, thanks.

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I would just like to point out that you initiated at 0:41 seconds in and not 0:39 as you claim. You start the initiation at 0:41 and you finish yelling at 0:43 and then open fire at 0:44. Literally 1 seconds for Boris to comply before he is shot at. Which he did/tried to do before being killed. At 0:44 you open fire, now by watching both yours and Boris video at around 0:45ish Boris has put his weapon on his back and is yelling back that he is complying then at 0:48 Boris has been shot dead. I don't know what else there is to say? Boris never had the chance to "makes no attempt to open the door to show compliance and even in his video, his hands are not up until the very last second." Because you gave him 1 second to comply before lighting him up. None of us shot until you guys killed Boris and shot at G19, clearly as provided in all the video evidence above.

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14 minutes ago, RebelRP said:

I would just like to point out that you initiated at 0:41 seconds in and not 0:39 as you claim. You start the initiation at 0:41 and you finish yelling at 0:43 and then open fire at 0:44. Literally 1 seconds for Boris to comply before he is shot at. Which he did/tried to do before being killed. At 0:44 you open fire, now by watching both yours and Boris video at around 0:45ish Boris has put his weapon on his back and is yelling back that he is complying then at 0:48 Boris has been shot dead. I don't know what else there is to say? Boris never had the chance to "makes no attempt to open the door to show compliance and even in his video, his hands are not up until the very last second." Because you gave him 1 second to comply before lighting him up.

Initiation is dropped at 41 seconds, I put 2 seconds prior so it's not an instant initation being shown, it's not a ground breaking discovery.

41-44 initiation 
45 - door closes

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He is in there for 6-7 total seconds going left and right, admittedly dodging shots but the option was there to open the door, repeatedly and it wasn't taken. Reopening the door and with his hands open, attempting to make contact, that should have been the method taken.

14 minutes ago, RebelRP said:

None of us shot until you guys killed Boris and shot at G19, clearly as provided in all the video evidence above.

Read my previous replies, I've explained why he was shot at. Listen to the audio from your own footage, you had full understanding of the goings on and knew full well what you were pushing onto. Doesn't matter if you knew who we were IC/OOC, fact of the matter is you were advancing on our position, weapons drawn, ready for a fight as per your comms amongst each other.

If we're wanting constant reiterations of what I've already stated, I'll just direct you to my previous replies.

Edit: As it's 4am you'll likely get a reply from me some time tomorrow.

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2 hours ago, Mexi said:

0:32 - We notice a man in yellow (Boris) coming towards us
0:39 - Boris is initiated upon
0:45 - Door is closed and shots ring out and after missing nearly a mag, Boris makes no attempt to open the door to show compliance and even in his video, his hands are not up until the very last second. Pay attention to the fact he made no attempt to verbally surrender or reopen the door. In his own footage it shows him going back and forth and the option to open the door was available 3-5 times, not once was it taken. Only at 0:48 was there an attempt to speak verbally, even then it wasn't audible enough to make out.

You hear him making his attempt to tell you his is complying because of the volume of your shots stop when you stop firing, he was speaking the whole time, just look at his video...

2 hours ago, Mexi said:

1:11 - A Bolt-Action shot is fired towards us from the compound

The bolt action shot can be heard but I do not hear a snap nor do the logs show him shooting anyone. Even so, if Hex had begun firing you'd gain rights on him, not the rest of us. Again, I must stress that we are not an official group; therefore, we do not gain aggressive approved rights, and you guys do not gain defensive rights against us like we are approved. 

14 minutes ago, Mexi said:

Listen to the audio from your own footage, you had full understanding of the goings on and knew full well what you were pushing onto

Obviously not Mexi, listen to my confusion when I got shot at, I thought it was one of my teammates gunning me down for no reason, we heard shots, saw people and went to look into it only to get shot. Once we got shot at obviously we are going to act as if we are in a firefight, because we understand that we are getting rdm'd, that doesn't change that there were no rights to being with. 

14 minutes ago, Mexi said:

He is in there for 6-7 total seconds going left and right

Also no, once he realizes what was happening he immediately puts his gun away and tries to comply, when you light the shed up he moves side to side for 4 seconds, not 6-7, hoping that you will realize hes trying to comply as he is yelling it at you. However you dont hear him because you are firing so many shots RDM'ing him. Once he realizes it may stop he puts his hands up, only to go uncon and be shot and killed again when he wakes up

2 hours ago, Mexi said:

Just to clarify, we are now counter reporting for the exact reason @Roland made in the report verdict he has made previously, which will be added below in a spoiler. Due to the nature of the said report, this would be us pushing for 'False Report'.

Again, that situation was completely different. In that situation, as an aggressor, I never initiated and reported Nihoo. Here, you guys initiated on one my men, were not official, he tries to comply and is killed for it, then when trying to figure out where the shots came from and for why they even happened, we are sprayed down and begin acting accordingly. Us moving around and getting more involved after the first shots get fired at us is warranted, yes, after you attempted to RDM my friends and I we began to flank and move around, as we understood that for some reason unannounced to us we were getting shot. If someone from us fired at you first, then fair, you had rights, but for those like me, Kai and Severson, we got lit up and shot at with no initiation or interaction at all. 

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POV: I'm roleplaying with a guy named Tommy in the camp for about 20-30 minutes when a burst of shots start going off. I leave tommy and crawl under the fence before running towards the general directions that I heard them. As I was walking over and was about 10 - 20 meters from a house I started taking a burst of shots (None of them hit). I then got to a house and began returning fire. I then monkey brain pushed the side of the building with 10 FPS and got domed. 

Would also like to note that it's a bit funny how @Ducky's video ends exactly at the moment one of his group members asks him "Are you dead"

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23 minutes ago, G19RP said:

You hear him making his attempt to tell you his is complying because of the volume of your shots stop when you stop firing, he was speaking the whole time, just look at his video...

The bolt action shot can be heard but I do not hear a snap nor do the logs show him shooting anyone. Even so, if Hex had begun firing you'd gain rights on him, not the rest of us. Again, I must stress that we are not an official group; therefore, we do not gain aggressive approved rights, and you guys do not gain defensive rights against us like we are approved. 

Obviously not Mexi, listen to my confusion when I got shot at, I thought it was one of my teammates gunning me down for no reason, we heard shots, saw people and went to look into it only to get shot. Once we got shot at obviously we are going to act as if we are in a firefight, because we understand that we are getting rdm'd, that doesn't change that there were no rights to being with. 

Again, that situation was completely different. In that situation, as an aggressor, I never initiated and reported Nihoo. Here, you guys initiated on one my men, were not official, he tries to comply and is killed for it, then when trying to figure out where the shots came from and for why they even happened, we are sprayed down and begin acting accordingly. Us moving around and getting more involved after the first shots get fired at us is warranted, yes, after you attempted to RDM my friends and I we began to flank and move around, as we understood that for some reason unannounced to us we were getting shot. If someone from us fired at you first, then fair, you had rights, but for those like me, Kai and Severson, we got lit up and shot at with no initiation or interaction at all. 

Before the fight broke out, we were shooting into the shed where Boris had ran into. We initiated while he opened the door, and he ran in, with a gun in hand, and closed the door. We took that as non compliance, and began to shoot through the shed. On Ducky's video, the initiation is over before he closes the door, and makes no attempt to open it from the looks of his video.

As per the whole fight, as we were shooting the shed, right after(as you can hear in the video), we take a snap that hits Mexi. It wasn't until Mexi got hit by your sniper did we begin to shoot upon the approaching hostiles.

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Up until you hear the shot around 1:10 in the video we were actively shooting into the shed where boris was in(where you ran up to us and hid behind, that is why you perceived us as shooting at you as the bullets traveled through the shed). You can audible hear us go 'oh, they're shooting at us' after the bolt action shot that hits mexi is heard, followed by 'oh there's one at the shed' and begin to shoot upon the men running towards us with weapons out and setting up on the hill north between us and the barn(Zorull's position).

 

We initiate on someone with an orange armband, get shot at by a sniper, who had an orange armband, then get pushed on by people... with orange armbands.

 

Had your group of been official, these rights would of, without question, been just. But because of rule technicalities, now we're here. That leads the question, how are we at fault for shooting men, in the same armband as the man we had initially initiated on, who had shot at us and began to rush us?

 

 

To align our videos here. You're video on plays starts at around 0:50 seconds on ducky's video. We continuesly yell into the shed over and over and then proceed to continue to shoot(which you take is at you, not knowing u were behind the shed). As stated, it wasn't until the shot on mexi at 1:12 did we begin to shoot on the rest of you who were pushing onto our green house compound.

 

The only true thing in question with this report is if Boris was given enough time to comply. The initiation started at 0:41 seconds in the video, Boris hears the voice, runs from the left side of the shed and into the shed, and closes the door (after 3 seconds of continues yelling for him to put his hands in the air). He takes cover, doesn't say anything until shots start flying.

 

But for now, Me and the rest of my boys will digress until a question is asked or Staff requires intervention.

 

If you want to talk it over Rich, you know where to find me 🙂

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Just now, California said:

As per the whole fight, as we were shooting the shed, right after(as you can hear in the video), we take a snap that hits Mexi. It wasn't until Mexi got hit by your sniper did we begin to shoot upon the approaching hostiles.

 

The shot that hit Mexi was from Jimmy, aka Zorull, and in the video that I linked in my response you can see that he waits until i get shot at to shoot Mexi, no need to lie here Lemon.

2 minutes ago, California said:

Up until you hear the shot around 1:10 in the video we were actively shooting into the shed where boris was in(where you ran up to us and hid behind, that is why you perceived us as shooting at you as the bullets traveled through the shed). You can audible hear us go 'oh, they're shooting at us' after the bolt action shot that hits mexi is heard, followed by 'oh there's one at the shed' and begin to shoot upon the men running towards us with weapons out and setting up on the hill north between us and the barn(Zorull's position).

Again look at the Plays video, you see me get shot at directly by your men, then after, they get shot by Jimmy, with an AK if you read the logs, not a bolt action.

4 minutes ago, California said:

That leads the question, how are we at fault for shooting men, in the same armband as the man we had initially initiated on, who had shot at us and began to rush us?

A simple answer Lemon, you RDM'd a compliant hostage of a non official group, then RDM'd the members of that group when they approached the seen. 

4 minutes ago, California said:

But because of rule technicalities, now we're here

I dont understand how it is a rule "technicality", it is well known that non-approved groups are treated the same as a dynamic group of people. Something I know that you guys understand. 

7 minutes ago, California said:

We continuesly yell into the shed over and over and then proceed to continue to shoot(which you take is at you, not knowing u were behind the shed)

You yell into the shed of an unconscious man you gave no time to comply and sprayed him down, if you would've even given him one and a half extra seconds, you would have heard him telling you he was complying, but instead you jumped the gun and spray him early.

10 minutes ago, California said:

The only true thing in question with this report is if Boris was given enough time to comply.

I'd like to make it very clear that without question, you guys did not have rights, as you are arguing that you are aware of this, you even call it a "technicality", so no, you in this post have admitted to killing us without rights, and your only argument is fundamentally untrue as the "sniper" shot you have quoted, is the ak round from Jimmy in his video, not the bolt action one you claim it to be.

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