Jump to content
Server time: 2019-05-21, 05:36
bunsojr

S1: Invalid Kill Near Bogatyrka Compound - 05/08/2019

Recommended Posts

Server and location: S1 Compound SW of Bogatyrka

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): Around 11:50 - 05-08-2019

Your in game name: Frank Wasabi

Names of allies involved: None

Name of suspect/s: Dominic something (claims to be 7'2'')

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): None

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): none

Detailed description of the events: I was hanging out at this compound for quite a while. So I'm unsure about the exact time. RP with everyone around. Finally, at some point, everyone starts walking down  the hill as if to escort someone out. Finally they stop and it looks like they are about to execute them. A lot of people were talking at the same time, so difficult to hear. Then I finally decipher that Dominic was telling me to drop my gun. I'm not sure why. I thought we were all just watching. I turn around to see what exactly what people were doing behind me and who was talking to me. As soon as I turn around. I'm shot dead.

I'm not sure why this happened. I was friendly the entire time save for one argument between myself and Dominic. And I when I was walking down, I was completely neutral, not aggressive in any way. And plus, I was standing in front of him. So i was unaware of what he was doing behind me. Absolutely no reason why I was killed. No demands were made and no time given to comply to anything.

Share this post


Link to post

POV: I was giving away weed to some Irish people who were just outside the camp and a few gunshots went off further down in the forest, a bit to many to just be an infected. I walk down to investigate and see a giant cluster of people surrounding something or someone. Just before I could walk up and ask what the fuck was going on, @JMZIE walks over and tells me that I should just go back to camp because Dominic just killed someone for ''talking trash'' and he wouldn't drop his gun.

Share this post


Link to post

Hello, TheMrGasMask here. I witnessed this so I would like to give my POV of this. 

 

Hunter Moroz POV: So Dominick and Kamenici alongside myself took a Chedaki/Communist outside of Camp Eden so they could question him and most likely beat him up, but as we were leaving some people were following us and some of them had weapons out. Once we finally got far from the camp, Kamenici told the Communist to put his weapon down and hands up, now during this time I saw Dominick tell a man in a blue hunting jacket to put his weapon down and hands up too. The man was given I would like to say 20 seconds to do this however he turned around to face Dominick with his weapon still in his hands so Dominick fired at the man killing him due to he did not put his weapon down and did not listen. Afterwards, he told myself and the rest of his friends to leave so he and Kamenici can deal with the Communist. 

Share this post


Link to post
Posted (edited)

Alexandr Kozak PoV:

ToeZ is already at the camp and apparently has an issue with someone who is talking shit about the Eastern Orthodox religion so we decide to head on over incase anything kicks off. As we arrive we overhear someone bragging about being apart of Chedaki and also attempting to act tough towards ToeZ without realising that we've just walked in. We wait for a few moments before I tell the Chedaki guy to take a walk with me. We attempt to leave before it turns into a crowd at which point we just tell everyone who isn't involved to fuck off and they do minus like 3-4 people, one of which was the OP who had some rather rude things to say about the religion, the others are once again told to leave with the exception of the OP and the Chedaki bloke.

We initiate on both, the OP decides to ignore what is being demanded and turns to ToeZ after like 10-20 seconds of the initiation being dropped and him having multiple people with weapons aimed at him, he quickly turns to ToeZ at which point he is gunned down.

Rather confused what you're reporting for..

Also,

2 hours ago, BigDaddy said:

POV: I was giving away weed to some Irish people who were just outside the camp and a few gunshots went off further down in the forest, a bit to many to just be an infected. I walk down to investigate and see a giant cluster of people surrounding something or someone. Just before I could walk up and ask what the fuck was going on, @JMZIE walks over and tells me that I should just go back to camp because Dominic just killed someone for ''talking trash'' and he wouldn't drop his gun.

This isn't direct involvement, let's not call in others who potentially were also not directly involved to avoid cluttering this report.

edit: Nvm, your friend was there.

Edited by Mexi

Share this post


Link to post

My POV: 

Dominik did tell the man to put his weapon down at least 3 times, I can say the man was neutral and causing no harm around the camp but he was told to put his weapon on the floor multiple times, he was given atleast 10 seconds, not 20 seconds, but he did have time to drop his weapon, after being told to drop his gun, he decided to turn around facing Dominik with his weapon in his hands, thats when Dominik shot him.

I dont think there should be any warnings handed out as I think the OP just didnt realize what was happening.

Share this post


Link to post

Dominik POV: We pull a Chedaki sympathiser from the camp and a bunch of people follow along.  We make most of them leave, however a few stay. The OP had been talking about how the Americans had saved the country, and as such we weren't especially fond of him. When we properly initiate on the 'Chedaki' man ( @FireDude ) the OP is still stood there watching, at which time I initiate on him, loudly saying something along the lines of: " MAN IN BLUE, DROP YOUR GUN, RIGHT NOW!" I state something along these lines a couple of times and get no response. He takes a few steps back and i'm still telling him to drop his gun when he turns towards me, his SKS still in his hands. It's been easily 15-20 seconds at this point and isn't complying, so when he turns to me gun in hand, I take the shot to avoid getting shot. 

I think this is just a mis-understanding where OP didn't quite understand what was happening, apologies for that.

Share this post


Link to post

But realize the situation. Like you all seem to agree upon, I was friendly and non-hostile for the entire time I was there. So I don’t understand why I was being initiated upon for any reason. Furthermore, it seems like you were trying to initiate me from BEHIND me. How am I supposed to know what’s happening, especially when in front of me, there is what looks like to be an execution happening. 

The only reason I had my gun out because I had no space on my shoulder or in my backpack. I had been carrying it my hands the entire time I was in camp. So this initiation came out of nowhere and very unclear. 

 

In in response to religion talk, i was never part of any religious conversation.  

Share this post


Link to post

Mexi was mistaken, we didn't talk about Religion to YOU, that was another person. What we did argue about however was the idea that the Americans came to save the country and that they 'saved' the country. I gave you several warning about this and told you many times in the camp to walk away. When you followed us into the woods after we told people to leave, I initiated on you because you'd already angered us within the camp, and then when you were at the situation just watching what was going on, I decided it was appropriate to take you hostage and ensure that you weren't going to spreading that belief. I had all the reason I needed to initiate on you when i'm a nationalist, and you were talking about the American's being the greatest. 

I said many times: "You in the blue" or something along those lines, you were the only one wearing anything blue. Everyone else had left. I think it's perfectly reasonable to initiate from BEHIND you, when you have a gun in your hands, I don't want you to try and shoot me. 

Share this post


Link to post

Imrich Pov: I was trying to hear a conversation inside the camp. However when someone called me something along the lines of "Chedaki prick" come with me. Not wanting to start a firefight in the camp I followed screaming my head off pissed all the way. When we get out the doors of the camp the hostile rp is great and about 4-8 hostage takers come out of the trees. Then another man comes out in blue. He is clearly not one of them and as we are walking out one of the hostage takers tells the man to fuck off. But another yells "No the American is coming with us!" We walk down the hill and a gun gets placed to my back, i hear put you fucking hands up you Chekaki fuck. You too guy in blue. Something like that. We were far enough from the camp to hear the threat well enough. I drop my gun and look behind me to the other hostage and I watch his turn, his gun was in his hand, however he did have it out as he was walking but did turn rather quickly. The hostage taker fires on him due to the man turning so quickly. I had plenty of time to comply, and I did look at my hostage takers via the Alt look. The man was gunned down dead, as the gunman yells "Look at me with a fucking gun! Idiot" something like that. We then proceed to be taken intk the woods and and I get tortured to shit. 

Share this post


Link to post

Hit Logs:

Spoiler
23:50:39 | Player "Frank Wasabi" hit by Player "Dominik Dvorak" with M16A4 from 1.8494 meters 
23:50:39 | Player "Frank Wasabi" hit by Player "Dominik Dvorak" with M16A4 from 1.86992 meters 
23:50:39 | Player "Frank Wasabi" hit by Player "Dominik Dvorak" with M16A4 from 1.89454 meters 
23:50:39 | Player "Frank Wasabi" hit by Player "Dominik Dvorak" with M16A4 from 1.96644 meters 
23:50:39 | Player "Frank Wasabi" hit by Player "Dominik Dvorak" with M16A4 from 1.96644 meters 
23:50:39 | Player "Frank Wasabi" hit by Player "Dominik Dvorak" with M16A4 from 1.96644 meters 
23:50:39 | Player "Frank Wasabi" hit by Player "Dominik Dvorak" with M16A4 from 1.96644 meters 
23:50:40 | Player "Frank Wasabi" hit by Player "Dominik Dvorak" with M16A4 from 2.05316 meters 
23:50:40 | Player "Frank Wasabi" hit by Player "Dominik Dvorak" with M16A4 from 2.05316 meters 
23:50:40 | Player "Frank Wasabi" hit by Player "Dominik Dvorak" with M16A4 from 2.05316 meters 
23:50:40 | Player "Frank Wasabi" hit by Player "Dominik Dvorak" with M16A4 from 2.05316 meters 
23:50:40 | Player "Frank Wasabi" hit by Player "Dominik Dvorak" with M16A4 from 2.06146 meters 
23:50:40 | Player "Frank Wasabi" hit by Player "Dominik Dvorak" with M16A4 from 2.15712 meters 
23:50:40 | Player "Frank Wasabi" hit by Player "Dominik Dvorak" with M16A4 from 2.15837 meters 

 

Kill Logs:

Spoiler
23:50:39 | Player "Frank Wasabi" (DEAD) killed by Player "Dominik Dvorak" with M16A4 from 1.86992 meters

 

Chat Logs:

Spoiler
23:04:48 | Chat("Dominik Dvorak"): *Dominik stands mighty at 7ft 2", he looks as strong as an ox*
23:10:24 | Chat("Dominik Dvorak"): //GOD DAMNIT VIKING YOU BEAUTIFUL BOYT
23:21:59 | Chat("Dominik Dvorak"): *Dominik stands mighty at 7ft 2", he looks as strong as an ox*
23:23:01 | Chat("Dominik Dvorak"): //I can't hear Hutch god damniot
23:27:00 | Chat("Dominik Dvorak"): //That the child char?
23:27:32 | Chat("Dominik Dvorak"): *Dominik stands mighty at 7ft 2", he looks as strong as an ox*
23:39:34 | Chat("Dominik Dvorak"): *Dominik stands mighty at 7ft 2", he looks as strong as an ox*
23:42:14 | Chat("Dominik Dvorak"): *Dominik stands mighty at 7ft 2", he looks as strong as an ox*

 

Position Logs:

Spoiler
23:30:13 | Player "Frank Wasabi" (pos=<1208.0, 8767.9, 278.5>) 
23:35:13 | Player "Frank Wasabi" (pos=<1223.2, 8833.6, 283.7>) 
23:40:14 | Player "Frank Wasabi" (pos=<1185.9, 8731.8, 279.3>) 
23:45:14 | Player "Frank Wasabi" (pos=<1178.1, 8753.5, 279.1>) 
23:50:14 | Player "Frank Wasabi" (pos=<1090.1, 8782, 274.6>)

23:30:13 | Player "Dominik Dvorak" (pos=<1209.1, 8768.1, 278.5>) 
23:35:13 | Player "Dominik Dvorak" (pos=<1206.6, 8766.4, 279.8>) 
23:40:14 | Player "Dominik Dvorak" (pos=<1231.8, 8765.5, 278.6>) 
23:45:14 | Player "Dominik Dvorak" (pos=<1217.1, 8750.5, 278.9>) 
23:50:14 | Player "Dominik Dvorak" (pos=<1087.0, 8782.4, 273.9>) 
23:55:15 | Player "Dominik Dvorak" (pos=<659.2, 8886.4, 195.7>) 
00:00:15 | Player "Dominik Dvorak" (pos=<472.3, 9023.8, 247.6>)

 

Connection Logs:

Spoiler
22:28:35 | Player "Frank Wasabi" is connected
-Died-

21:56:50 | Player "Dominik Dvorak" is connected
23:13:23 | Player "Dominik Dvorak" has been disconnected
23:19:49 | Player "Dominik Dvorak" is connected
23:23:11 | Player "Dominik Dvorak" has been disconnected
23:24:29 | Player "Dominik Dvorak" is connected
03:32:30 | Player "Dominik Dvorak" has been disconnected

 

Calling in:

@bunsojr - Frank Wasabi | POSTED

@ToeZiesOG - Dominik Dvorak | POSTED

For their Full Detailed POV. Along with any other evidence that they may have. Please also list all of your allies that were involved.

Share this post


Link to post
Posted (edited)

I just found a twitch stream of someone that was around:

https://m.twitch.tv/videos/422214882

I first arrive in the compound around the 2:03:45 mark. I'm wearing the blue hunter jacket. As you can see, I have a shotgun on my shoulder, so I have to carry the SKS in my hands. Throughout the entire time, I'm RPing and being friendly and non-hostile, except for the one argument I and Dominick have about Chernarus and America. I re-enter the streamers view at the 2:29:54 mark after I hear yelling and arguing. At 2:31:00, you can even hear that Dominick says I am coming with the group. Again, I have no where to store my weapon, unless I just throw it down on the ground. Most other people also have their guns out. Around the 2:32:15 mark is where Dominick all of a sudden runs from his line and decides  to engage me. I cannot hear him as I am listening to the commotion directly in front of me that we all went down to observe. He wasn't even clear calling me out. Calls me, as it sounds in the video "Mr. Boo." How am I supposed to gather from that one line that that is supposed to be me? Then you can see me very slowly turn. I don't even turn all the way around and I just get blasted.

Edited by bunsojr

Share this post


Link to post

Verdict:

@ToeZiesOG - Invalid Kill (Roleplayed) - Guilty

 

Summary:

After some time spent roleplaying at Camp Eden, @bunsojr and a group of player are being led outside and away from the compound by another group amongst whom is @ToeZiesOG; after walking for a short while, @ToeZiesOG's allies initiate on the group while @ToeZiesOG himself initiates on @bunsojr, asking him to drop his weapon; @bunsojr does not react and his then put down when he turns around to face @ToeZiesOG.

@ToeZiesOG, you are found guilty of an Invalid Kill (Roleplayed) stemming from an invalid initiation. As seen in the footage that was provided, despite your intention to say "Mr.Blue" the only thing that can be heard is "Mr.Boo", and the footage also shows @bunsojr being completely clueless and unaware as to whom the initiation was addressed.

4.1 All initiations and hostile actions as well as their demands and conditions must be made clear and unambiguous to all involved players. Hostile actions or initiations must be done personally and on specific targets who must be aware who the attacker is, for example they cannot be done remotely through radio or PA system.

 

Outcome:

@ToeZiesOG - Invalid Kill (Roleplayed) - Guilty - 3 day ban and 10 warning points.

Signed by: @Pontiff & @Samti

If you disagree with the outcome of this verdict, you are free to file an appeal here.

Share this post


Link to post
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...