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S1: RDM Outside Pushtoshka 4/28/2019 - 2:53

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Server and location: S1 - Outside Pushtoshka

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 4/28/2019 - 2:53

Your in game name: Frank Walker

Names of allies involved: George Walker

Name of suspect/s: No Clue

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): 1 Enemy Vehicle

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): 

 

Detailed description of the events: George Walker and I were roleplaying with a gentleman inside of Pushtoshka. My friend dropped his mask on the ground for a second and this guy decided to pick it up so we roleplayed being upset but then got momentarily distracted (our characters are psychopaths and become easily distracted) so we asked him to follow us. This being said we had weapons out and were absolutely pissed that he wouldn't give us the mask back even though we asked him multiple times. As we asked him to follow us he said okay, and when we turned to go where we were gonna show him something, he decided it was well within value for life to just book it in the other direction. So we fired a few warning shots to get him to stop which he never did. 

 

So we chased after him and continued to shoot until eventually, and mind you we only lost sight of him for about thirty seconds to which he was in the middle of a field alone, when I started to catch up to him, easily 800m outside of town, his friend, who had yet to interact with anyone. Rolled up in a car and shot me, the only words being stated by him were, "do you have a moment to talk about jesus".

 

What's the point of playing on a roleplay server if you're 1, not going to roleplay with the people you come across, and 2, metagame so that you don't die, because now and even though I don't particularly care about what gear I have, all the time I just spent gathering it was wasted and quite frankly it just ruins the point of this for me.

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i had kos rights on you guys due to you shooting my friend in the field, if you would like to join a discord so we can talk it out I can send you my discord

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10 minutes ago, JoeyS said:

i had kos rights on you guys due to you shooting my friend in the field, if you would like to join a discord so we can talk it out I can send you my discord

Excuse me? *SniffSniff* You werent even involved...You were never there. How would he have known u were involved? Neither of you were wearing armbands, nor did you announce yourself as "His" Friend. All you did "RP wise" Is shown in that video. And if you asks me. It belongs on DayZvanilla. Im sure most would agree.

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I don't have to announce myself and I don't have to do anything with you guys you were shooting at my friend who you didn't initiate on that is in my approved group which gave me kill rights on you,  like I said I am willing to go into discord with you guys and explain it better to you, if not i will post my pov and we can go on with the report

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Roleplay, not ruleplay buddy. "Hello do you have a moment to talk about Jesus" isn't good enough in my opinion, and also actively avoiding roleplaying, such as running away from someone who has been aggressive with you and has weapons out, kind of removes the ability for them to initiate when you just run out of voice distance so idk what you want me to say here. Please post your POV. Tbh you weren't even involved in this situation, no clue how you knew any of this was even going on because the first time I ever even knew of your existence is in the video.

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8 minutes ago, JoeyS said:

I don't have to announce myself and I don't have to do anything with you guys you were shooting at my friend who you didn't initiate on that is in my approved group which gave me kill rights on you,  like I said I am willing to go into discord with you guys and explain it better to you, if not i will post my pov and we can go on with the report

4.4 Hostile situations must focus on the role play experience of both attackers and victims. Both sides should actively participate and contribute to role play in all situations. 

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That's enough back and forth, cut the chatter and stick to providing your PoV. Non compliance will result in warning points.

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my pov- i was driving around in my newly found car when my buddy @PandaOG said that he was getting shot by a group of guys so I drove over to where he said they where chasing him and saw @NinZazzin chasing and shooting at my friend who is in my approved group so I drove over to him a said "sir would you like to talk about Jesus to get his attention away from my friend and to get him to stop running, we exchanged some words and I shot him up with my Makarov.

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Panda POV: I ran to to Pushtoshka trying to find some people to RP with and i came across these folk. I ran over to the well where they were at and noticed there was a mask on the ground and decided to pick it up. After picking it up yall said "nice mask" and said it belonged to yall. I didnt actually think it did and thought you two were just trying to strong arm me considering i had no gun and you two were the only ones there. As you said you two RP as "psychopaths" and i wanted nothing to do with yall. I believe your friend said "I'm really hungry" to which you agreed and pulled out your gun. Then you wanted to go show me something and i agreed but my plan the whole time was to get the fuck outta there. I saw my perfect opportunity when you two went to go kill the zombie leaving me unattended. After running away you guys started to take shots at me. No initiation or anything. At that point i was running for my life because it was either run or become your guys' next meal. I started running in the direction of VMC when i told @JoeyS to come and save me. You guys shooting at me and also hitting me gave me defensive rights as well as the other people in my approved group. I was telling him everything that was going on via the radio (TS). As you stated in your video i do eventually stop and it was so that way my friend could catch up and your attention was off of me. Him being in my group gave him the right to shoot you down. END POV

With all of that being said I would like to counter report with Invalid Initiation/Metagaming as there was no initiation ever said to me they just opened fire and Metagaming for him using his radio and giving call outs while uncon.

If the OP is willing to talk it out then please feel free to either PM @JoeyS or Myself.

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Hit Logs:

02:47:31 | Player "Marcus Moreno" hit by Player "Frank Walker" with SK 59/66 from 122.17 meters 
02:49:09 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "Leo Manarello" with IJ-70 from 2.78492 meters 
02:49:10 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "Leo Manarello" with IJ-70 from 2.61784 meters 
02:49:10 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "Leo Manarello" with IJ-70 from 2.62515 meters 
02:49:10 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by is unconscious
02:49:12 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "Leo Manarello" with IJ-70 from 1.22053 meters 
02:49:12 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "Leo Manarello" with IJ-70 from 1.22053 meters 
02:49:13 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "Leo Manarello" with IJ-70 from 1.22053 meters 
02:50:04 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by regained consciousness
02:50:08 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "Leo Manarello" with IJ-70 from 1.84615 meters 
02:50:08 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "Leo Manarello" with IJ-70 from 1.89973 meters 
02:50:08 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "Leo Manarello" with IJ-70 from 1.90087 meters 
02:50:08 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "Leo Manarello" with IJ-70 from 1.81015 meters 
02:50:08 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "Leo Manarello" with IJ-70 from 1.51195 meters 
02:50:09 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "Leo Manarello" with IJ-70 from 1.47367 meters 
02:50:09 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "Leo Manarello" with IJ-70 from 1.47367 meters 
02:50:09 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "Leo Manarello" with IJ-70 from 1.54976 meters 
02:50:09 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "Leo Manarello" with IJ-70 from 1.75075 meters 
02:50:09 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "Leo Manarello" with IJ-70 from 2.2102 meters 
02:50:09 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "Leo Manarello" with IJ-70 from 2.2102 meters 
02:50:12 | Player "Leo Manarello" hit by Player "George Walker" with SK 59/66 from 154.476 meters 
02:50:16 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "George Walker" with SK 59/66 from 159.741 meters 
02:50:50 | Player "Frank Walker" hit by Player "George Walker" with SK 59/66 from 159.829 meters 
02:50:59 | Player "Leo Manarello" hit by Player "George Walker" with SK 59/66 from 198.323 meters 
02:53:51 | Player "Marcus Moreno" hit by Player "George Walker" with BK-133 from 10.2645 meters 
02:53:51 | Player "Marcus Moreno" hit by Player "George Walker" with BK-133 from 10.2645 meters

Kill Logs:

02:50:09 | Player "Frank Walker" (DEAD) killed by Player "Leo Manarello" with IJ-70 from 1.54976 meters 
02:53:51 | Player "Marcus Moreno" (DEAD) killed by Player "George Walker" with BK-133 from 10.2645 meters

Chat Logs:

02:38:43 | Chat("Leo Manarello"): can u not hear me?
02:38:55 | Chat("Leo Manarello"): //shit my bad mic isnt working
02:39:00 | Chat("George Walker"): // No , so fix it.
02:39:11 | Chat("Leo Manarello"): // k

Position Logs:

02:29:09 | Player "Frank Walker" (pos=<2795.6, 6915.1, 356.3>) 
02:34:09 | Player "Frank Walker" (pos=<2987.2, 7835.8, 315.7>) 
02:39:09 | Player "Frank Walker" (pos=<2987.6, 7753.3, 319.8>) 
02:44:09 | Player "Frank Walker" (pos=<3216.6, 7400.1, 344.2>) 
02:49:09 | Player "Frank Walker" (pos=<4021.7, 6966.6, 304.2>) 

02:29:09 | Player "George Walker" (pos=<2795.6, 6920.9, 355.8>) 
02:34:09 | Player "George Walker" (pos=<2980.8, 7824.6, 315.5>) 
02:39:09 | Player "George Walker" (pos=<2995.1, 7822.6, 315.3>) 
02:44:09 | Player "George Walker" (pos=<3173.4, 7445.0, 345.9>) 
02:49:09 | Player "George Walker" (pos=<3821.2, 7264.7, 309.7>) 
02:54:09 | Player "George Walker" (pos=<4201.8, 6743.9, 288.4>) 
02:59:10 | Player "George Walker" (pos=<3942.7, 6988.7, 307.4>)

02:29:09 | Player "Leo Manarello" (pos=<5614.4, 6398.9, 235.1>) 
02:34:09 | Player "Leo Manarello" (pos=<4090.8, 6657.6, 303.3>) 
02:39:09 | Player "Leo Manarello" (pos=<2992.6, 7819.4, 316.6>) 
02:44:09 | Player "Leo Manarello" (pos=<2973.5, 7616.3, 333.8>) 
02:49:09 | Player "Leo Manarello" (pos=<4020.0, 6969.2, 304.2>) 
02:54:09 | Player "Leo Manarello" (pos=<4309.4, 6765.7, 281.7>) 
02:59:10 | Player "Leo Manarello" (pos=<4839.3, 6986, 286.8>) 

02:29:09 | Player "Marcus Moreno" (pos=<2075.0, 7315.5, 260.2>) 
02:34:09 | Player "Marcus Moreno" (pos=<2976.6, 7436.3, 340.4>) 
02:39:09 | Player "Marcus Moreno" (pos=<2997.7, 7822.6, 315.3>) 
02:44:09 | Player "Marcus Moreno" (pos=<3217.8, 7665.5, 322.3>) 
02:49:09 | Player "Marcus Moreno" (pos=<4064.0, 6885.9, 303.9>) 
02:59:10 | Player "Marcus Moreno" (pos=<11595.7, 5553.7, 233.3>) 

Connection Logs:

00:46:09 | Player "Frank Walker" is connected
-Died-

00:42:29 | Player "George Walker" is connected
03:01:39 | Player "George Walker" has been disconnected

22:14:04 | Player "Leo Manarello" is connected
02:39:20 | Player "Leo Manarello" has been disconnected
02:41:34 | Player "Leo Manarello" is connected
03:37:21 | Player "Leo Manarello" has been disconnected

01:14:44 | Player "Marcus Moreno" is connected
-Died-

Calling in:

@NinZazzin - Frank Walker | POSTED

@Prinsey - George Walker | POSTED

@JoeyS - Leo Manarello | POSTED

@PandaOG - Marcus Moreno | POSTED

For their Full Detailed POV. Along with any other evidence that they may have. Please also list all of your allies that where involved. 

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Not sure if this is still ongoing. However LikeI said before. I saw a man jump out a car and murder my friend. I then followed them, killed 1 of the 2 man, I think the one we were following orginally. No rules were broken by their side. Although I feel the RP was very poor on BOTH sides.

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Outcome:

@JoeyS - Invalid Kill | Not Guilty

@NinZazzin - Metagaming | Guilty

Explanation:

The Kill on @NinZazzin was Valid because @JoeyS had Defender Rights from @NinZazzin shooting and hitting @PandaOG. As shown in the logs you can see @PandaOG get hit and then a few minutes @NinZazzin is shot still while chasing @PandaOG

Moving onto the Metagaming. @NinZazzin can be seen in his video calling out both of their locations and stating what they are doing to his ally. This is considered Metagaming and @NinZazzin will be punished for such.

  • 4.2 When your life is at risk or you are subjected to a hostile action by other players you are allowed to defend yourself. This is granted by two different "kill rights" that you can gain based on circumstances of the situation like which side caused the hostile situation and which side you are on.
    • If you are a defender - the one being initiated on or subjected to other hostile actions that threaten your life which you did not start or provoke - you are allowed to defend yourself by gaining DEFENDER RIGHTS on the attackers. Defender rights allow you to kill attackers for 2 hours or until your character dies. Defender rights can be shared with anyone who you recently role played with as well as all your group members, if you are a part of an approved group.
  • 3.5 Metagaming is an situation where Out Of Character information is transferred in game and changed into In Character information, despite there being no realistic way of characters gaining this information. For example, your character knowing someones name because you used the games "Check pulse" feature, or you sharing information after your character has died, is unconscious, surrendering (F2 animation), handcuffed or have had your radio taken away.

Before I close out I would like to state that if your character is in a state where they can't use a radio then you are not able to relay information to your allies because that would be considered Metagaming.

Verdict:

@JoeyS - Invalid Kill | Not Guilty

@NinZazzin - Metagaming | Guilty - 3 Day Ban & 10 Warning Points

Signed by: @Onyx & @RandyRP w/Notes

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