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S1: RDM/BadRP - Green Mountain - 2019/03/20 - 21:40

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Server and location: S1 Green mountain

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 21:40 Server time. 2019-03-20

Your in game name: Artur Grau

Names of allies involved: None at this Point/ probably Jake Lemon since i tried to meet him

Name of suspect/s: don't know

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): -

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): will upload it asap (slow Internet)

Detailed description of the events: So I logged in at cherno and heard there is a firefight going on. I made my way out of that since i was not involved and didn't wanted to get shot. A few Friends where close to zelenogorsk so i walked up this way. A few of them also got initiated i guess since they muted themselves in the comms. I kept Walking towards @TheLemon who told me he get followed by a guy in black. I had no line of sight so I walked through green mountain Woods to find Lemon when suddenly an unknown Person walked up on me saying "hey how are you doing?" and a few more words. I responded "I am doing good i guess.." when i then suddenly got sprayed down. No RP happened between me and the Person before nor did i even talked to anyone ingame since i logged in.

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We run into 5-6 saviors (edit: My bad, Revenants) in front of lonely green next to GM. We initiate and a fight ensues in which all the Revenants scatter in different directions. We're all running around GM fighting, and as I'm running through GM woods, a bit tunnel visioned, I literally bump into this guy and instinctively say "hey how you doing?", I then notice his clothing, clearly indicating he's apart of the official group I'm literally now fighting against, so I shoot him down. You were literally involved in a fight together with your approved group, what exactly were you expecting?

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Hey i was one of the people that was initiated on and ran away. If I need to post a pov i can. However I can confirm that @TeutonicOG had absolutely no involvement in Cherno or what happened at that lonely house. 

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I literally knew Nothing About a fight at green mountain. I heard About People of us getting initiated south of zelenogorsk which decided to run away up to the North. Moody's new character got captured and accused of stuff his old characters did by your Group somewhere in the south but we decided to not take actions since we didn't RP'd with his new character yet. It was literally chaos since we had 3 initiations at the same time on different places. I was not involved in any of those Things and just wanted to meet up with jake Lemon who told me he was close to green mountain on his way to meet with the fleeing People of us. 

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12 minutes ago, TeutonicOG said:

I literally knew Nothing About a fight at green mountain. I heard About People of us getting initiated south of zelenogorsk which decided to run away up to the North. Moody's new character got captured and accused of stuff his old characters did by your Group somewhere in the south but we decided to not take actions since we didn't RP'd with his new character yet. It was literally chaos since we had 3 initiations at the same time on different places. I was not involved in any of those Things and just wanted to meet up with jake Lemon who told me he was close to green mountain on his way to meet with the fleeing People of us. 

So by your own admission you did know that your group was initiated on (not south of Zelenogorsk, but north-east, next to GM lonely) and they were fleeing from the assailants. But for some reason when you decided to meet up with them you didn't expect to possibly get killed by those they were fighting with? Please...

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Just now, Mak said:

So by your own admission you did know that your group was initiated on (not south of Zelenogorsk, but north-east, next to GM lonely) and they were feeling from the assailants. But for some reason when you decided to meet up with them you didn't expect to possibly get killed by those they were fighting with? Please...

Like I said i was about to meet up with one Person of us who was not running up North since he also was not involved i assume. He told me he is close to green mountain so I decided to go there. (all the way from cherno up to green mountain) you initiating on some of our guys happened when i was half way there. I did not know which place the Initiation happened. I only got the call that it was close to zeleno south side. So i felt safe going to green mountain without getting involved. I wouldn't make the report when i went straight into a firefight but i didn't.

I will not response any further until staff asks me to.

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Here is my Video evidence of me trying to find Jake Lemon at green mountain. He said he got followed by someone completely in black. I first assumed it was me but since i just ran blind through the Woods i knew it must be someone else.
You also can hear moody getting initiated somewhere else close to zelenogorsk.
Pogo and the others decided to stop and wait for Jake Lemon and me to investigate who the unknown Person is that follows him. I must have been somewhere behind Jake at this point.

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I'd like to counter report @MoodyOG For powergaming and BadRP. When taken hostage moody was questioned regarding his affiliations, and denied any connection to the Revenenants, which is fine. What isn't fine is that when @OxeN(I think, it happened around the time this kill did) RP-searched moody's radio for the frequency it was in, he typed OOCly that it was set to "a random frequency". But as we see in this video he was relying IC information to The Revenants (getting held up), meaning he'd have been in their comms ICly. He just didn't want to be held accountable for his group's actions, so he OOCly lied about his radio, thus powergaming.

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7 minutes ago, Mak said:

I'd like to counter report @MoodyOG For powergaming and BadRP. When taken hostage moody was questioned regarding his affiliations, and denied any connection to the Revenenants, which is fine. What isn't fine is that when @OxeN(I think, it happened around the time this kill did) RP-searched moody's radio for the frequency it was in, he typed OOCly that it was set to "a random frequency". But as we see in this video he was relying IC information to The Revenants (getting held up), meaning he'd have been in their comms ICly. He just didn't want to be held accountable for his group's actions, so he OOCly lied about his radio, thus powergaming.

The whole Thing in my Video is simply unnessecary for the whole Situation. We LITERALLY talked About the moody Situation over teamspeak. We decided to NOT go for JFK's because Moody's new character never RP'd with us yet. Which means the whole stuff moody said in the ts was OOC Information only that we never used. We are OOC Friends and Talking in ts aswell. doesn't mean that we use everything in the game. That would make your counter report not valid.
You can hear the start of the conversation to NOT attack Moody's aggressors at the second half of my Video.

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Um, what? The character you found me on, I had only played 30minutes on, I hadn't even met the group ICCLY yet. The ts I am in is my personal paid ts, I can be in my ts channel with my friends. I haven't met any revenant character's iccly yet and technically don't have their IC radio frequency. The "Oh I am getting held up" is my natural reaction due to my past characters. My "group" knew not to come get me due to me not being affiliated with them yet in game. You can look at my character page and It'll say I am affiliated, but none of those events have occurred yet, I have yet to do any of that Iccly. So idk what you are on about, am I not allowed to rp my character not yet being affiliated with the revenants? 

2.) That was me just hot micing in general. 

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12 minutes ago, MoodyOG said:

Um, what? The character you found me on, I had only played 30minutes on, I hadn't even met the group ICCLY yet. The ts I am in is my personal paid ts, I can be in my ts channel with my friends. I haven't met any revenant character's iccly yet and technically don't have their IC radio frequency. The "Oh I am getting held up" is my natural reaction due to my past characters. My "group" knew not to come get me due to me not being affiliated with them yet in game. You can look at my character page and It'll say I am affiliated, but none of those events have occurred yet, I have yet to do any of that Iccly. So idk what you are on about, am I not allowed to rp my character not yet being affiliated with the revenants? 

2.) That was me just hot micing in general. 

What you say in that TS, in that specific situation, is all IC. Just like when Lemons said he's been followed and Teutonic charges to the rescue. The fact that your boys decided not to rescue because they wanted to keep your character "out of the limelight of their group" doesn't mean that that information wasn't passed IC. By your standards it'd be fine to talk about what's happening ig on TS even while handcuffed, with people not even 500 meters from me, as long as they "know not to come to me": it'd still be metagaming. 

What you did was simply sketchy af man. You can't just magically choose when people are taking stuff IC'ly and when they're not. Next time you don't want to be beaten because of the radio frequency you're on, simply CTRL+V *Swiftly changes radio frequency to a random one* and then mute; you were clearly in contact with them, and this whole thing you did left a bitter taste in the mouths of all those involved

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@Mak there is no counter report because we didn't act on any information that was said over OOC Teamspeak. he was not quick enough to mute up when guns was pointed into his face. so Moody is completely irrelevant. i just see nit picking.  its not meta gaming as we didn't take any of that info in character.. 

Edited by JSaulOG

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I am not responding to this report unless needed by staff, you are trying to use rule armor in attempts to magically get me to be affiliated with the Revenants. It'd make a lot more sense if they acted on it. But alas they didn't

Also would like to point out that the accused was clearly ruleplaying that kill, he had the opportunity to further roleplay but instead used the kos rights and ooc knowledge of @TeutonicOG voice and just sprayed him instead of re initiating in hopes of taking him hostage. The accused could have gone on a better path and furthered roleplay, but he was clearly more focused on getting a kill than roleplay.

Again I will only respond if requested by staff, I have said my piece. No need for the back and forth

Edit: He could have also stalled and waited for more of his people to meet with him to take him hostage, because you clearly had many people with you and could of def forced @TeutonicOG into complying through the use of superior forces, so once again you were more concerned with getting a kill rather than roleplaying.

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Lets cut out the useless back and forth please. Only post if you have been called into the report to post your POV, answer a question, or have new evidence.

Logs will be posted once the new ones are updated.

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Hit Logs:

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21:41:17 | Player "Artur Grau" hit by Player "Jacob Makarov" into Torso with Bullet_762x39 from 3.80733 meters 
21:41:17 | Player "Artur Grau" hit by Player "Jacob Makarov" into Torso with Bullet_762x39 from 3.80733 meters 
21:41:17 | Player "Artur Grau" hit by Player "Jacob Makarov" into Torso with Bullet_762x39 from 3.80734 meters 
21:41:17 | Player "Artur Grau" hit by Player "Jacob Makarov" into Torso with Bullet_762x39 from 3.80733 meters
21:52:59 | Player "Collin Russel" hit by Player "Jacoby Kingsbury" into Torso with MeleeFist

 

Kill Logs:

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21:41:17 | Player "Artur Grau" killed by Player "Jacob Makarov" with KA-M

 

Chat Logs:

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21:58:48 | Chat("Jacob Makarov"): *PATS FOR RADIO* //FIND?
21:59:05 | Chat("Jacob Makarov"): //HOW MANY DO I FIND?
21:59:22 | Chat("Jacob Makarov"): *takes it*
21:59:46 | Chat("Collin Russel"): //ME?
21:59:52 | Chat("Jacob Makarov"): *would pat down for more weapons
21:59:56 | Chat("Jacob Makarov"): //find any?
22:00:18 | Chat("Jacob Makarov"): //do i find any more weapons?
22:00:38 | Chat("Jacob Makarov"): //DO I FIND ANY MORE WEAPONS??
22:01:53 | Chat("Collin Russel"): //THAT WAS ON EDDY BATEMAN
22:06:46 | Chat("Awimba Muncho"): // perms to log for rickets?
22:06:51 | Chat("Collin Russel"): //no
22:07:03 | Chat("Collin Russel"): //Unless its emergency
22:07:54 | Chat("Awimba Muncho"): *what freq*
22:08:08 | Chat("Collin Russel"): //no freq, on new character not affiliated with anyone
22:08:18 | Chat("Awimba Muncho"): // so just a random freq
22:08:26 | Chat("Collin Russel"): //sure

 

Connection Logs:

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21:17:40 | Player "Artur Grau" is connected
-Dead-

20:52:03 | Player "Jacob Makarov" is connected
22:06:19 | Player "Jacob Makarov" has been disconnected
22:08:21 | Player "Jacob Makarov" is connected
23:06:40 | Player "Jacob Makarov" has been disconnected

21:21:28 | Player "Collin Russel" is connected
01:44:36 | Player "Collin Russel" has been disconnected

20:51:30 | Player "Awimba Muncho" is connected
22:55:21 | Player "Awimba Muncho" has been disconnected
22:55:36 | Player "Awimba Muncho" is connected
00:51:33 | Player "Awimba Muncho" has been disconnected

20:52:47 | Player "Jimmy White" is connected
22:41:22 | Player "Jimmy White" has been disconnected

 

Calling in:

@TeutonicOG - Artur Grau | POSTED

@Mak - Jacob Makarov | POSTED

@MoodyOG - Collin Russel | POSTED

@OxeN - Awimba Muncho | POSTED

@PogoOG - Jimmy White | POSTED

For their full, detailed POV. Along with any other evidence that you may have for this situation. Also, list all of your allies that were involved. 

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POV: D7 and Green dragons found saviours jogging down the road towards zelenogorsk by green mountain, i initiate they don't comply and i kill one and severly wound another that manages to escape through the green mountain woods.

I provide overwatch for a few minutes before one of my boys find @MoodyOG and as he was wearing the same shit as the rest and being in the area where the firefight took place he was taken and interrogated, i take his radio and ask him OOCly what frequency it is tuned too, he responded that he is not affiliated and that the freq is not tuned to anything so we let him go shortly after.

// end of pov

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Pogo POV:

Was headed to Pavlovo to get away from D7 because i had just escaped them in Cherno and ran into a freshspawn who claimed to be D7 up near Rogovo so we knew our position was compromised. We were jogging to Pavlovo and when we reached south GM I saw 2 fully geared players spotting us. 1 was crawling and the other had his gun out. I used the scope on my gun to look at them and knew they had to be D7. I start running to get into a better position because i was in the middle of the road with others but that’s when they initate and bullets start flying. I managed to run all the way to Zelenogorsk by using the woods as cover. And that’s when I had escaped and got away. 

The OP was not with us, and was not involved in any of the prior events (i.e. Cherno); He was never initiated on.

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Pov: I log on to run up north and end up south of GM. I get on some road and get followed by D7, I turn around and begin to rp with them since I just started a new character and haven't done anything against them on this character, they tell me to come with them and I follow them, the 3 of us meet up with the rest of green dragons and d7 that were there and thats when they drop the initiation on me officially. They escort me to a green 2 story outside of pavlovo where they interrogate me giving me excuses as to why I am being held up, one of them being "You sound like someone we know" implying they knew it was me oocly and that was kinda their sole reason for said robbery. They question me a bunch and do the whole radio thing which is backed in chat with what I said. They keep accusing me of being a Savior because I am wearing all black even though their own people were wearing the same getup as me so IDK how that was grounds for anything. I continue to rp on my new character, get out alive and stripped of gear and was released over in rogovo. End of POV

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@MoodyOG @PogoOG @OxeN @JSaulOG @Mak @TeutonicOG

Does anyone involved have any footage of the fight that happened prior to this?
If so, please post it on this report as soon as possible so that it can be processed. Thank you.

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no but i killed 1 and hit 1 in the firefight prior, maybe between 10-30 mins prior check the logs.

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Nope. Before killing Teutonic I think I might have hit some other Revenants if you check the logs (was spraying on the dudes running, not sure if I hit any)

Edit: Oh btw forgot to mention (prolly irrelevant) but the chat logs of me patting someone down for a radio ecc. were for some guy who was walking next to GM during the fight without a gun out, so we quickly grabbed him and questioned him.

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No video from our side of the situation 

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Sorry for answering so late. We've asked People who were part of the Situation but it seems nobody has any Video of the Prior Situation.

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@TeutonicOG Your video looks like it has been clipped. Can you please provide us the full unedited video. I just find it hard to think that a normal recording software would only record a 1:23 and that you would start it at that time and then as soon as you die. 

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