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Server and location: S1 Stary Sobor

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 07/03/19 23:00

Your in game name: John Johnson

Names of allies involved: N/A

Name of suspect/s: Unknowns

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): N/A

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): N/A

Detailed description of the events: I was in Stary Sobor when I hear a lot of shots so I retreat to my base beside the car park, I take cover in my tower when I was killed by a sniper shot from someone I didn't even see. I had a lock in my hand at the time I was killed and was not involved at all in the firefight.

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Hit Logs (First Fight)

{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:45:58","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Jonathan Shmeck"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Ludvik Kozlov"},"Damage":{"Global":11.22,"Health":11.22,"Blood":0,"Shock":21.78},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"RightArm"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:45:58","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Jonathan Shmeck"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Ludvik Kozlov"},"Damage":{"Global":17,"Health":17,"Blood":0,"Shock":17.16},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:45:58","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Jonathan Shmeck"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Ludvik Kozlov"},"Damage":{"Global":11.22,"Health":11.22,"Blood":0,"Shock":21.78},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"LeftArm"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:01","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Jonathan Shmeck"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Ludvik Kozlov"},"Damage":{"Global":34,"Health":34,"Blood":0,"Shock":198},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Head"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:04","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Hector Rodriguez"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Ludvik Kozlov"},"Damage":{"Global":11.22,"Health":11.22,"Blood":0,"Shock":21.78},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"RightArm"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:06","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"John Johnson"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Domek Svoboda"},"Damage":{"Global":34,"Health":34,"Blood":0,"Shock":66},"Weapon":"Bullet_762x39","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:06","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"John Johnson"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Domek Svoboda"},"Damage":{"Global":11.22,"Health":11.22,"Blood":0,"Shock":21.78},"Weapon":"Bullet_762x39","Target":"RightArm"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:06","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"John Johnson"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Domek Svoboda"},"Damage":{"Global":34,"Health":34,"Blood":0,"Shock":66},"Weapon":"Bullet_762x39","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:08","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Domek Svoboda"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Damage":{"Global":17,"Health":17,"Blood":0,"Shock":33},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:08","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Domek Svoboda"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Damage":{"Global":34,"Health":34,"Blood":0,"Shock":66},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:08","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Domek Svoboda"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Damage":{"Global":11.22,"Health":11.22,"Blood":0,"Shock":21.78},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"RightArm"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:13","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Domek Svoboda"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Damage":{"Global":11.22,"Health":11.22,"Blood":0,"Shock":21.78},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"LeftArm"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:13","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Domek Svoboda"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Damage":{"Global":34,"Health":34,"Blood":0,"Shock":66},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:13","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Domek Svoboda"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Damage":{"Global":0,"Health":0,"Blood":0,"Shock":0},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Lungs"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:14","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Domek Svoboda"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Damage":{"Global":34,"Health":34,"Blood":0,"Shock":66},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:14","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Domek Svoboda"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Damage":{"Global":0,"Health":0,"Blood":0,"Shock":0},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Lungs"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:14","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Domek Svoboda"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Damage":{"Global":34,"Health":34,"Blood":0,"Shock":66},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:14","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Domek Svoboda"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Damage":{"Global":34,"Health":34,"Blood":0,"Shock":66},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:14","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Domek Svoboda"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Damage":{"Global":34,"Health":34,"Blood":0,"Shock":66},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:14","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Domek Svoboda"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Damage":{"Global":34,"Health":34,"Blood":0,"Shock":66},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:14","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Domek Svoboda"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Damage":{"Global":0,"Health":0,"Blood":0,"Shock":0},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Lungs"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:14","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Domek Svoboda"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Damage":{"Global":34,"Health":34,"Blood":0,"Shock":66},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:30","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Ostrovsky Sokov"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Nikita Zima"},"Damage":{"Global":34,"Health":34,"Blood":0,"Shock":198},"Weapon":"Bullet_762x39","Target":"Head"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:34","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Ostrovsky Sokov"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Nikita Zima"},"Damage":{"Global":17,"Health":17,"Blood":0,"Shock":33},"Weapon":"Bullet_762x39","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:34","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Ostrovsky Sokov"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Nikita Zima"},"Damage":{"Global":34,"Health":34,"Blood":0,"Shock":66},"Weapon":"Bullet_762x39","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:34","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Ostrovsky Sokov"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Nikita Zima"},"Damage":{"Global":0,"Health":0,"Blood":0,"Shock":0},"Weapon":"Bullet_762x39","Target":"Heart"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:34","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Ostrovsky Sokov"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Nikita Zima"},"Damage":{"Global":34,"Health":34,"Blood":0,"Shock":66},"Weapon":"Bullet_762x39","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:34","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Ostrovsky Sokov"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Nikita Zima"},"Damage":{"Global":34,"Health":34,"Blood":0,"Shock":66},"Weapon":"Bullet_762x39","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:34","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Ostrovsky Sokov"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Nikita Zima"},"Damage":{"Global":34,"Health":34,"Blood":0,"Shock":66},"Weapon":"Bullet_762x39","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:34","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Ostrovsky Sokov"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Nikita Zima"},"Damage":{"Global":11.22,"Health":11.22,"Blood":0,"Shock":21.78},"Weapon":"Bullet_762x39","Target":"RightLeg"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:48:04","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Ludvik Kozlov"},"Damage":{"Global":11.22,"Health":11.22,"Blood":0,"Shock":21.78},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"RightArm"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:48:04","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Ludvik Kozlov"},"Damage":{"Global":17,"Health":17,"Blood":0,"Shock":17.16},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:48:05","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Ludvik Kozlov"},"Damage":{"Global":11.22,"Health":11.22,"Blood":0,"Shock":21.78},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"LeftArm"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:48:05","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Ludvik Kozlov"},"Damage":{"Global":17,"Health":17,"Blood":0,"Shock":17.16},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:48:05","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Ludvik Kozlov"},"Damage":{"Global":17,"Health":17,"Blood":0,"Shock":17.16},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:48:05","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Brandon Young"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Ludvik Kozlov"},"Damage":{"Global":17,"Health":17,"Blood":0,"Shock":17.16},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Torso"}

 

Hit Logs (Second Fight)

{"Time":"2019-03-07 22:56:34","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"John Johnson"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Lubomir Skala"},"Damage":{"Global":34,"Health":34,"Blood":0,"Shock":198},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Head"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 22:56:34","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"John Johnson"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Lubomir Skala"},"Damage":{"Global":34,"Health":34,"Blood":0,"Shock":0},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Brain"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 22:57:54","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Lubomir Skala"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Jonathan Shmeck"},"Damage":{"Global":11.22,"Health":11.22,"Blood":0,"Shock":21.78},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"LeftArm"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 22:57:59","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Jonathan Shmeck"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Lubomir Skala"},"Damage":{"Global":10.098,"Health":10.098,"Blood":0,"Shock":19.602},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"RightLeg"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 22:57:59","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Lubomir Skala"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Jonathan Shmeck"},"Damage":{"Global":11.22,"Health":11.22,"Blood":0,"Shock":21.78},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"RightArm"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 22:58:00","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Jonathan Shmeck"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Lubomir Skala"},"Damage":{"Global":10.098,"Health":10.098,"Blood":0,"Shock":19.602},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"LeftLeg"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 22:58:00","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Jonathan Shmeck"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Lubomir Skala"},"Damage":{"Global":10.098,"Health":10.098,"Blood":0,"Shock":19.602},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"RightLeg"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 22:58:12","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Lubomir Skala"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Miguel Lugo"},"Damage":{"Global":17,"Health":17,"Blood":0,"Shock":17.16},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 22:58:12","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Lubomir Skala"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Miguel Lugo"},"Damage":{"Global":0,"Health":0,"Blood":0,"Shock":0},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Liver"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 22:58:12","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Lubomir Skala"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Miguel Lugo"},"Damage":{"Global":17,"Health":17,"Blood":0,"Shock":17.16},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 22:58:12","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Lubomir Skala"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Miguel Lugo"},"Damage":{"Global":17,"Health":17,"Blood":0,"Shock":17.16},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Torso"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 22:58:13","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Lubomir Skala"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Miguel Lugo"},"Damage":{"Global":17,"Health":17,"Blood":0,"Shock":51.48},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Head"}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 22:58:13","Type":"HIT","Victim":{"Name":"Lubomir Skala"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Miguel Lugo"},"Damage":{"Global":17,"Health":17,"Blood":0,"Shock":51.48},"Weapon":"Bullet_556x45","Target":"Head"}

 

Kill Logs (First Fight)

{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:01","Type":"KILL","Victim":{"Name":"Jonathan Shmeck"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Ludvik Kozlov"}}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:13","Type":"KILL","Victim":{"Name":"Domek Svoboda"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Brandon Young"}}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 21:46:30","Type":"KILL","Victim":{"Name":"Ostrovsky Sokov"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Nikita Zima"}}

 

Kill Logs (Second FIght)

{"Time":"2019-03-07 22:56:34","Type":"KILL","Victim":{"Name":"John Johnson"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Lubomir Skala"}}
{"Time":"2019-03-07 22:58:13","Type":"KILL","Victim":{"Name":"Lubomir Skala"},"Attacker":{"Name":"Miguel Lugo"}}

 

Connection Logs

22:08:57 : Player Jonathan Shmeck connected
-Still Ingame-

21:32:38 : Player Miguel Lugo connected
-Still Ingame-

21:45:38 : Player Lubomir Skala connected
-Dead-

 

Calling In

@Pep - Jonathan Shmeck

@Cuchulainn - Miguel Lugo

@Gowbe - Lubomir Skala

 

For their full and detailed PoVs and any evidence they have.

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POV: There was a firefight / shots in Stary so I went back to the John Johnson's base as I was supposed to be protecting him. He then gets JFK'd right in front of me so I pursue the attacker and end him.

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POV- I can't really say definetly what happened, GMAK was ontop of his base tower and he gets JFK'd, i see the guy who shot him and chase him, shooting him as i run, we run up to the bridge thats when he peeks and we have like a standoff or something and others arrive and finish him off. 

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Hi, I where the one who shoot you. 
POV: We (Kamnici) had been in a constant firefight with the GZ and Greendragons. The fight started off when GZ and greendragon initiated on one of our people. We had a firefight in Kabanino but had to retreat. We later identified some of the people that took our guy hostage. @Lumen open fire shit hits the fan. There is a ton of shots and people die everywhere I then see you( @GMAK ) From my perspective it looked like you were well aware of the situation and decided to stay in the middle of the fight. I see you climbing up the tower and I take the shoot.
I would be very happy if we could talk about what happened on discord 

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I can fill in the void of the supposed initiation we did, Green Dragons never initiated that was all Gen Z after the fact one of the Kamenci tries to shoot Gmak once more we shoot the guy that shoots him and move on, I sit in Stary talking to Roman amber and Yuthee and I receive a bullet to the back fight calms down once more and people show up and the fight proceeds. Gen Z wanted the riffle of your man we had nothing to do with that.

Your man seemed persistent to talk shit even when outgunned so I assumed he was baiting for rights so you bois could shoot.

Edited by Eagle

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So. What the video shows is basically that you guys were all rolling together and initiated on @Wolfaye, no one seems to disagree with the initiation and almost everyone has weapons out including @GMAK . When the fight begins people hides and takes positions. @GMAK does it too but gets shoots by @PatZ (I believe). You survive this time but I killed you later using the "Defense Rights"

 

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As @Zanaan wrote in this report: "In the future if you are not involved in a hostile encounter it is usually better to either separate yourself from the situation, or put your hands up as well showing that you are not a threat. Continuing to run around a hostage situation and calling out other people, even when not done maliciously, may still be taken as such by those with defensive rights."

You were a part of the situation in Kab and decided to roll with them until I shoot you in Stary. The reason I shot you in stary was as I said that we knew and saw you all rolling together as one big party. 

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8 minutes ago, Gowbe said:

-sn

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You don't gain rights from people just being in the area. ID your targets and don't use your members as bait.
Your targets where obvious you saw none of us raise guns we ran after him because he decided to call Gen Z cunts etc before running out.

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I was in Kab when Gen-Z initiate on that guy in the video, I'm the old guy in the white shirt. You can see me stand close enough when the initiation is dropped, I immediately back out of the situation when it turns hostile. When shots start I run away and am mis-id'd and get gunned down. Luckily I was not killed and only knocked unconscious. I get some medical RP from Gen-Z and move on. You were initiated on by the people with the orange armbands, I had nothing to do with this at all.

In Stary I was talking with what I believe were ex Saviors when the shooting starts again, we all put our hands up and go prone in the middle of the street by the pump. When the shooting stops for a bit I move to my base beside the Stary car park. I am killed while inside my base with a lock in my hands.

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44 minutes ago, Gowbe said:

As @Zanaan wrote in this report: "In the future if you are not involved in a hostile encounter it is usually better to either separate yourself from the situation, or put your hands up as well showing that you are not a threat. Continuing to run around a hostage situation and calling out other people, even when not done maliciously, may still be taken as such by those with defensive rights."

For the record since you are using this as justification for your rights on him, I said that as advice to the person that was shot in the prior report. It does /not/ validate your kill rights on someone just because they are in the area, only that they could become mis-ID'd because of it.

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59 minutes ago, Zanaan said:

For the record since you are using this as justification for your rights on him, I said that as advice to the person that was shot in the prior report. It does /not/ validate your kill rights on someone just because they are in the area, only that they could become mis-ID'd because of it.

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I didn´t use it as an attempt to justify the kill on him. We got the kill rights when they all decided to be a part of the hostile act. I quoted you because what you wrote was a good example of what he should have done if he truly wanted to NOT be a part of the hostilities.

 

1 hour ago, GMAK said:

I was in Kab when Gen-Z initiate on that guy in the video, I'm the old guy in the white shirt. You can see me stand close enough when the initiation is dropped, I immediately back out of the situation when it turns hostile. When shots start I run away and am mis-id'd and get gunned down

Yes, you were standing very close when the initiation was dropped and you did back off. But only a few meters. You where all still around him It is when the fight starts you decide to run... Towards the gunfire...

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Did any of you do anything to show us that you were not involved in the situation? Cuz standing a few meters away with weapons drawn following @Wolfaye doesn´t seem very uninvolved to me. 
What we saw when shooting was a bunch of people with weapons drawn surrounding our guy.

At 9 seconds in this video, you can see both @Pep and another person wearing a light green armband just like Eagles which can also be seen throughout the report hitting and knocking @Wolfaye unconscious, which is a hostile act that gave us rights on those involved, IE Jackals and Green Dragons. Not only that you can also see @GMAK standing beside the situation and going along with the RP taking place as well as all 3 groups taking part in the hostile act. You can't pick and choose when you are or are not apart of a hostile situation when you're literally following them around and then take your weapon out as an initiation is dropped. Towards the point when you sprint past the church, it looks to me as if you were attempting to push towards the shots that were coming from the apple orchid direction. You were actively taking part in this situation whether you like it or not. Later on, I find you in the town, confirm my target and kill you.

I will not be replying more unless asked by a staff member.

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@Gowbe Just checking something. The incident in Stary is you and Kamenici extending your kill rights from the first encounter correct?

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3 hours ago, Zanaan said:

@Gowbe Just checking something. The incident in Stary is you and Kamenici extending your kill rights from the first encounter correct?

We used the Defence rights we gained from the first situation. There was about 50 min between the situations.

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So you killed me because i punched someone?

You also forgot the part where i did cpr on him after he went uncon

Your boy was talking mad shit thats why he got punched. Even after getting punched and surrounded by 12 fully armed people he kept trying to run away, didnt want to talk at all and still kept talking mad shit. 

Calling 

He kept walking calling us "green fag.ots" and "cunts" even tho we had people right on him talking so he can get into a position where you can have a shot on us. 

hella bait. 

 

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Calling in @Wolfaye to post his POV of the situation

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3 minutes ago, lukaszxe said:

Calling in @Wolfaye to post his POV of the situation

Yeah so, I was a fresh spawn after I was killed early in the EU time of the day by Jackals after we tried robbing someone. (Pre-Update). I respawned and night fell and I was walking along and Saw a flare in distance, needless to say, I ended up captured by Gen Zero (They initiated on me and told me to get into the house) and proceeded to "toughen me up" by me ending up tortured, Waterboarded, yadda yadda. I'm later taken for a ride along and am forced to hold up anyone I come across while they watch. After that they let me go. I find a radio at VMC and contact my friends. They didn't know I was Kamenici at the time as I never let them know. I rallied with my friends and we found Gen Zero in Kabinino. I needed water as my thirst was yellow, I went to the well and because they were there I told them to leave me alone as I only wanted water and they followed me around the barns until I went to the well. from there I am talking to them and they then punch me to knockout after I called them something or said something. One of the Jackals started punching and a few others followed as ya can see in the video. After this, I walked away and as I leave Kab towards the church I drop my tongue at the Gen Zero calling one of them the "C" word and they pursue to up the road. I'm further initiated on after refusing to lick the Jackal man's boot and my boys are witnessing this and they see me in trouble. They open fire given the kill rights after I was secondly initiated on by the people in Kab aside from Gen Zero. Making them and everyone involved KOS for their hostile actions. I drop in fear as Jackal man goes down and the man that takes my gun domes me whilst I'm on the ground, crawling out of the line of fire. No clue who or why he did it. They had no reason afaik. If they've already said, I ain't really read this report properly. Not yet anyway, haven't had the chance.

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19 minutes ago, Wolfaye said:

-snipö

 

Question when did Green dragons pep or Gmak initiate on you? or are you talking about the punching giving you rights?

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54 minutes ago, Eagle said:

Question when did Green dragons pep or Gmak initiate on you? or are you talking about the punching giving you rights?

Hi there friend eagle, I joined in later into the little skirmishes we had between Kab and Stary. 

 

I don’t see the debate. Literally in the first 10 seconds of your neat video you can see a member of your group punching my man in the head several times. Now perhaps I’m just too new to the server or inexperienced with hostile RP, but I’m pretty sure that is what we refer to as a ‘hostile act’. Because to my knowledge, punching someone unprovoked can be taken as two ways;

-RDM

-A hostile act. 

 

If if you could enlighten me on to which of these two categories  the whole ‘punching Wolfaye until he knocks out’ falls under it can clear up a lot of confusion. 

 

Cheers.

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59 minutes ago, California said:

punching someone unprovoked

Lmao what? The guy been acting shady as hell running his lip so we punched him. 

Punching him was an act of rp and definetly shouldent result in me getting shot and killed. 

To my knowledge shooting and killing a guy for a punch can be taken 1 way;

-Ruleplay

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20 minutes ago, Pep said:

Lmao what? The guy been acting shady as hell running his lip so we punched him. 

Punching him was an act of rp and definetly shouldent result in me getting shot and killed. 

To my knowledge shooting and killing a guy for a punch can be taken 1 way;

-Ruleplay

Right. So what I’m hearing is;

-you invoked a hostile action against someone from an official group

-that official group proceeded to shoot at you.

I believe rule 4.2 can clear up that confusion for you! 🙂 

 

But as for the whole ‘oh it’s ruleplay because I hit him and got shot for it!’ Excuse. Sure, if it was a single punch, I guess. But when 2 different groups and a bunch of randoms proceed to beat a man to unconsciousnous, that’s a little more than just ‘I hit him, I got shot’ now isn’t it?

Next subject;

 

The report here focus’s on the kill of the OP, who is seen around and reacting aggressively towards the gun fire that occurred after the whole ‘lick my boots or die’ spheel that took place near the church. My only query is;

If you weren’t involved with the hostile actions, and didn’t wish to join in on a gunfight, why run directly towards a shooter with a gun in your hand?

 

You claim to clearly not be apart of the hostilities, and wished to remain ‘indifferent’, but when bullets started flying, why run towards the shooter, gun in hand, and in a pack with the victims of the shooting? 

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Outcome:

@Gowbe | Ruleplay | Guilty

Explanation:

A team of staff has looked over the report and reached a conclusion to it

We will start off with a short summary of the situation. The OP is in stary when he hears shots coming and decides to take cover in his base. While doing this a shot is fired and kills the OP. The OPs friend then decides to try and hunt down the shooter and successfully does so and kills him.

The staff team has decided that  @Gowbe will be found guilty of ruleplay. You state that you got punched by the OPs friends earlier and that would make you gain kill rights. While yes you did obtain kill rights, there was no need to use them in this situation. You could've furthered the roleplay in this situation instead of just shooting him from a distance and ending any chance for more roleplay. Just because you have kill rights on someone doesn't mean that you have to use them. For example, you could've confronted the op about the situation as to why you got punched. Or taken him hostage and taking revenge on him that way would've had also worked. Please think next time when you are killing someone if it's really necessary or furthered roleplayed can be gained.

Verdict:

@Gowbe | Ruleplay | Guilty - 5-day ban & 10 warning points

Signed by @lukaszxe & @Zilly

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