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Luke Henderson

S1 - Airfield KOS

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Server and location: S1 and bunker on NWAF 

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): Server time: 2019-02-12, 19:47

Your in game name: Luke Henderson

Names of allies involved: Watchmen & Saviors

Name of suspect/s: Logs will show

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): N/A

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): 44 min

 

Detailed description of the events: Was chilling at our base on NWAF with others just listening to music, when i hear gun-shots in the area so i dart towards cover when i then get killed via KOS

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Hit Logs

[2019/02/12 19:43:53]: (Luke Henderson) hit by (Bogdan Kirillov) to Torso with Bullet_762x39
[2019/02/12 19:43:56]: (Luke Henderson) hit by (Bogdan Kirillov) to Torso with Bullet_762x39
[2019/02/12 19:43:56]: (Luke Henderson) hit by (Bogdan Kirillov) to Torso with Bullet_762x39
[2019/02/12 19:43:56]: (Luke Henderson) hit by (Bogdan Kirillov) to LeftLeg with Bullet_762x39
[2019/02/12 19:43:56]: (Luke Henderson) hit by (Bogdan Kirillov) to LeftLeg with Bullet_762x39

 

Kill Logs

[2019/02/12 19:43:56]: (Luke Henderson) killed by (Bogdan Kirillov)

 

Connection Logs

19:15:58 : Player Bogdan Kirillov connected
20:28:16 : Player Bogdan Kirillov disconnected

 

Calling in

@JamieBoy (Bogdan Kirillov)

For his full and detailed PoV and any evidence he has. Please also list any allies you had in this situation.

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Hi I was in this situation and after getting shot at I ran up the building where he shot me and then proceed to log out once my team mates got up there

I and the other saviors initiated on him but he was trying to kill me not the guy he ended up killing.

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My POV (Bogdan Kirillov) :

Bogdan had logged at the airfield after going to scout the saviours base (Undetected might I add). Bodgan then logged in an hour or so later and made his way back to the base to sell his homemade vodka. As he was interacting with the people at the bunker he was told to put his hands up by a group identified with military gear and pink armbands (And this is where the Ghillie man steps in). Bodgan remembered what the group looked like and kept that information for later. 

4.2 When your life is at risk or you are subjected to a hostile action by other players you are allowed to defend yourself. This is granted by two different "kill rights" that you can gain based on circumstances of the situation like which side caused the hostile situation and which side you are on.

  • If you are a defender - the one being initiated on or subjected to other hostile actions that threaten your life which you did not start or provoke - you are allowed to defend yourself by gaining  DEFENDER RIGHTS on the attackers. Defender rights allow you to kill attackers for 2 hours or until your character dies. Defender rights can be shared with anyone who you recently role played with as well as all your group members, if you are a part of an approved group.

During the interrogation Bogdan was subjected to one the worst interrogations of his life, not in the sense of torture. But of pure illogical idiocy. He was beaten and robbed because apparently he was part of a group that he wasn't a part of.

After which Bogdan was released, luckily he met up with an old friend who had watched the entire thing happen. Even more luckily he had a spare gun on him. Deciding to exact revenge on these hypocrites was the best idea at the time for Bogdan. So he took up a position and opened fire, killing a man in a ghillie suit. Whom had been part of the group that interrogated Bogdan.

Bogdan used his kill rights well within the rules and given Role Play situation. Unfortunately when you rob someone they might come back to bite you in the ass, who would've thought.

So you weren't "Was chilling at our base on NWAF with others just listening to music, when i hear gun-shots in the area so i dart towards cover when i then get killed via KOS" 

You in-fact engaged in hostilities with someone who used their God given right to kill you.

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There were two ghillie suits btw. I don’t think Luke Intiated on tourney but I’m not sure.

Edited by Zillah

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Well if you watch the video @Luke Henderson is the one involved in the initiation.

Have you watched the video right?

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Different guy it was someone else and they had nothing to do with the initiation it was me who initiated on you and you didn't have kill rights on them just on saviors

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 You have watched the video right?

16:50 - Points a gun at Bogdan after the initiation

16:58- Points a gun at bogdan when escorting him

 17:47- Points a gun at Bogdan when escorting him

18:34 Points gun at Bogdan during an interrogation 

He is in the interrogation room while Bogdan is there! 

44:20 Bogdan kills him

Please review your evidence before submitting it. It is blatant that this guy was involved in a hostile act. He even pointed a gun at a hostage and escorted him. ITS IN THE VIDEO MAN.

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We've decided to re-open the report.
With that being said, here are the updated logs. Please let me know if I have missed anything, so they can be updated accordingly.


Connection Logs |

Luke Henderson |

18:36:41 | Luke Henderson connected
- DIED -


Windex Akunda |

18:52:46 | Windex Akunda connected
- DIED -


William Foster|

16:41:56 | William Foster connected
19:18:11 | William Foster disconnected
19:28:57 | William Foster connected
20:27:08 | William Foster disconnected


Annabelle smit |

17:15:09 | Annabelle smit connected
19:54:54 | Annabelle smit disconnected
19:55:33 | Annabelle smit connected
19:58:42 | Annabelle smit disconnected


Bogdan Kirillov |

19:07:16 | Bogdan Kirillov connected
19:15:48 | Bogdan Kirillov disconnected
19:15:58 | Bogdan Kirillov connected
19:34:09 | Bogdan Kirillov disconnected
19:34:20 | Bogdan Kirillov) connected
20:28:16 | Bogdan Kirillov disconnected


Nikolai Chaletsky |

18:25:48 | Nikolai Chaletsky connected
21:29:30 | Nikolai Chaletsky disconnected

 

Hit & Kill Logs |

Luke Henderson |

[2019/02/12 19:43:53]: (Luke Henderson) hit by (Bogdan Kirillov) to Torso with Bullet_762x39
[2019/02/12 19:43:56]: (Luke Henderson) hit by (Bogdan Kirillov) to Torso with Bullet_762x39
[2019/02/12 19:43:56]: (Luke Henderson) hit by (Bogdan Kirillov) to Torso with Bullet_762x39
[2019/02/12 19:43:56]: (Luke Henderson) hit by (Bogdan Kirillov) to LeftLeg with Bullet_762x39
[2019/02/12 19:43:56]: (Luke Henderson) hit by (Bogdan Kirillov) to LeftLeg with Bullet_762x39

[2019/02/12 19:43:56]: (Luke Henderson) killed by (Bogdan Kirillov)



Windex Akunda |

[2019/02/12 19:39:47]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Annabelle smit) to LeftHand with MeleeFist
[2019/02/12 19:39:48]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Annabelle smit) to Head with MeleeFist
[2019/02/12 19:39:52]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (William Foster) to Torso with MeleeFist_Heavy
[2019/02/12 19:39:53]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Annabelle smit) to RightArm with MeleeFist
[2019/02/12 19:39:53]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (William Foster) to RightArm with MeleeFist
[2019/02/12 19:39:55]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (William Foster) to Torso with MeleeFist_Heavy
[2019/02/12 19:39:55]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (William Foster) to LeftHand with MeleeFist

[2019/02/12 19:45:17]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Nikolai Chaletsky) to Torso with Bullet_556x45
[2019/02/12 19:45:18]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Nikolai Chaletsky) to RightHand with Bullet_556x45
[2019/02/12 19:45:18]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Nikolai Chaletsky) to RightArm with Bullet_556x45
[2019/02/12 19:45:18]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Nikolai Chaletsky) to LeftArm with Bullet_556x45
[2019/02/12 19:45:18]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Nikolai Chaletsky) to LeftArm with Bullet_556x45
[2019/02/12 19:45:18]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Nikolai Chaletsky) to Torso with Bullet_556x45
[2019/02/12 19:45:18]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Nikolai Chaletsky) to Lungs with Bullet_556x45
[2019/02/12 19:45:18]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Nikolai Chaletsky) to Spine with Bullet_556x45
[2019/02/12 19:45:18]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Nikolai Chaletsky) to Torso with Bullet_556x45
[2019/02/12 19:45:18]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Nikolai Chaletsky) to LeftArm with Bullet_556x45
[2019/02/12 19:45:18]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Nikolai Chaletsky) to Torso with Bullet_556x45
[2019/02/12 19:45:18]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Nikolai Chaletsky) to Torso with Bullet_556x45
[2019/02/12 19:45:18]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Nikolai Chaletsky) to Head with Bullet_556x45
[2019/02/12 19:45:18]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Nikolai Chaletsky) to Torso with Bullet_556x45
[2019/02/12 19:45:18]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Nikolai Chaletsky) to Lungs with Bullet_556x45
[2019/02/12 19:45:18]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Nikolai Chaletsky) to Heart with Bullet_556x45
[2019/02/12 19:45:18]: (Windex Akunda) hit by (Nikolai Chaletsky) to RightLeg with Bullet_556x45

[2019/02/12 19:45:18]: (Windex Akunda) killed by (Nikolai Chaletsky)



William Foster |

[2019/02/12 19:40:45]: (William Foster) hit by 76561198086935116 (Windex Akunda) to Torso with MeleeFist_Heavy
[2019/02/12 19:40:46]: (William Foster) hit by 76561198086935116 (Windex Akunda) to LeftArm with MeleeFist_Heavy
[2019/02/12 19:40:47]: (William Foster) hit by 76561198086935116 (Windex Akunda) to RightHand with MeleeFist_Heavy



Annabelle smit |

[2019/02/12 19:39:50]: (Annabelle smit) hit by (Windex Akunda) to Torso with MeleeFist_Heavy
[2019/02/12 19:39:51]: (Annabelle smit) hit by (Windex Akunda) to Head with MeleeFist
[2019/02/12 19:39:54]: (Annabelle smit) hit by (William Foster) to RightArm with MeleeFist

[2019/02/12 19:48:53]: (Annabelle smit) hit by (Bogdan Kirillov) to RightLeg with Bullet_762x39



Bogdan Kirillov |

[2019/02/12 19:20:50]: (Bogdan Kirillov) hit by (Windex Akunda) to Head with MeleeFist
[2019/02/12 19:20:51]: (Bogdan Kirillov) hit by (Windex Akunda) to RightArm with MeleeFist
[2019/02/12 19:22:08]: (Bogdan Kirillov) hit by (Annabelle smit) to Head with MeleeHammer
[2019/02/12 19:23:27]: (Bogdan Kirillov) hit by (Annabelle smit) to Head with MeleeHammer
[2019/02/12 19:24:37]: (Bogdan Kirillov) hit by (Windex Akunda) to Head with MeleeKnife
[2019/02/12 19:24:45]: (Bogdan Kirillov) hit by (Annabelle smit) to Head with MeleeFist
[2019/02/12 19:24:47]: (Bogdan Kirillov) hit by (Annabelle smit) to Head with MeleeFist

[2019/02/12 19:49:56]: (Bogdan Kirillov) hit by (Annabelle smit) to Torso with Bullet_762x54



Nikolai Chaletsky |

[2019/02/12 19:45:17]: (Nikolai Chaletsky) hit by (Windex Akunda) to RightArm with Bullet_556x45
[2019/02/12 19:45:18]: (Nikolai Chaletsky) hit by (Windex Akunda) to Torso with Bullet_556x45

 

Chat Logs |

18:57:54 : Global: Windex Akunda: *Tries to push off hangar
18:58:04 : Global: Windex Akunda: //Does it work?
19:01:45 : Global: William Foster: //You cant
19:15:10 : Global: Bogdan Kirillov: //i AM BUGGED
19:15:36 : Global: Bogdan Kirillov: //Can I relog a sec
19:15:39 : Global: Bogdan Kirillov: //Im stuck
19:15:44 : Global: William Foster: //Go ahead
19:21:44 : Global: Windex Akunda: //OK
19:26:58 : Global: Bogdan Kirillov: //Don't powergame please
19:31:00 : Global: Bogdan Kirillov: //Discord, Jamie Boy
19:31:19 : Global: Nikolai Chaletsky: //on it
19:33:08 : Global: William Foster: //afk
19:39:13 : Global: Windex Akunda: TG

Calling In |
Please provide your full & detailed point of view. Also, list any allies relevant to this situation & provide any evidence you may have.


@Luke Henderson | Luke Henderson | POSTED
@GrizZzDaGawd | Windex Akunda | POSTED
@Annabelle smit  | Annabelle smit | POSTED
@Zillah | William Foster | POSTED

@JamieBoy | Bodan Kirillov | POSTED
@ComradeBandit | Nikolai Chaletsky | POSTED


@Annabelle smit, why did you log out 10 minutes after getting shot?

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Greetings im here to provide my Pov...

I went to the airfield looking for my favorite weapon of choice (AKM) and i also stumbled uppon M4 so i grabbed them both and spotted a group of people walking and sitting around one of the bunkers so i went to investigate...

As i got there i greeted people around and everything was fine but then i heard a familiar voice of Bogdan the friend from the past...

Well since there was no way im gonna do something about his captors on my own i simply waited about till they released him...

After that we met up again i gave him M4 since he did not have a weapon at the time and we went to other side of airfield...

Then we realized we should get revenge so we went around to the huge industrial building seen in the video recording...

we went on the roof first there we scouted and JamieBoy (Bogdan Kirillov) even checked the rules if we were in the right...

after that we took up better position, we swapped weapons as i got M4 from him and he was given my AKM with PSO-1 optic and then well he took a few shots killed the ghillie guy...

well after that someone (Windex i think) showed up and i killed him as well because i had him for one of the people who robbed Bogdan, also he was simply there with weapon in his hand right at the doorstep to our safe haven of the factory...

well we both got slightly hit while being holed up in the factory and when we got "Better" we simply ran off towards Grishino and i guess thats it...

Now let me apologize for my broken english and also for this bluntly put together Pov. 

Peace

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Pov: I was rping their for most of the day. The saviors then held up bogdan due to a previous incident earlier that day. I wasn’t in the saviors then and I never initiated on him. We then later randomly started taking shots. He killed one or two I think I don’t remember. Also if I remember right Annabelle logged off earlier due to her having the glitch where your health still is going down even if you are no longer bleeding. 

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@GrizZzDaGawd & @Annabelle smit will be temporarily banned until they provide us with their full and detailed POV of the situation.

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I was in north west Airfield and was interacting with a few people both the saviours and Watchman group with air after having died during a r p situation heading back and gearing up to try and make my way back towards my group it would have taken me an hour or so to get back when we got back we were all hanging out chilling talking a few people come along we had interactions with them we then proceeded to get fired on where than Luke got kale West instantly after he had no initiation with that person the person had kill rights on the saviours only because we are not associated with them I then after being shot by someone from top of Tower Factory behind I then had to log out due to the bleeding glitch which rendered me unable to heal or gain health back

 

I'm sorry I can't be more help I can only remember a few things from that evening

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8 minutes ago, Annabelle smit said:

- snip -

 

Thank you very much, your temp-ban has been lifted. Please keep an eye on the report in-case we have any further questions.

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Just thought I'd clarify and completely distil any doubts in the story.

All time-codes are related to the video in which OP has provided (Cheers).

Bogdan comes into play at exactly 15:30. At which point OP says "There are hands being thrown up" while pointing his gun at two players

After which at 15:32 somebody mentions "Who's the guys pointing the guns?" in which he is responded to with "Us" 

OP is watching the initiation take place, whilst being on guard in case anything goes down.

At 15:47 OP says "I need call-outs people" This implies that he is definitely involved in the situation and is actively helping with the initiation. 

After that a response is heard saying "We are robbing, we are robbing them". We implying that OP is definitely part of this group.

At 16:20 OP is pointing his gun within a visible distance of Bogdan who noticed the OP's unique appearance (Gillie) Which implies that OP is part of this initation

At 16:30 I ask to log due to a surrender bug, I ask for permission and receive it. I log and come back immediately.

16:50 OP is told to "Point the gun at him" and OP continues to do so, which is the second hostile action performed by this player. And due to his unique appearance I remembered it.

16:53 OP continues to aim his gun at me. Deeming him to MY PERSPECTIVE a part of  the "robbery"

16:59 OP aims a gun whilst escorting me

17:39 OP aims a gun whilst escorting me

18:13 to 19:20 OP is guarding me while being interrogated 

Skipping ahead a bit to 27:44

My good pal Nikolai comes to see the Saviours base, and through good timing he hears my voice and decides to hang around for a minute.

 This is the point where Nikolai see me as a hostage and due to a previous RP experience he gains defender rights, however he does not use them.

At 29:31 I am released, I am issued a threat that "If you are even seen in these parts again, you will be shot dead"  

At this point OP loses eye contact with me and Nic.

Me and Nic trade a few items and setup at an appropriate position. I ID my target one of which is the OP due to his unique appearance and his involvement in the hostage situation.

I open fire at  44:23  and kill OP at 44:35. 

Later on Windex assaults our position and is shot by Nic

I trade fire with another player who shoots me.

Me and Nic flee the scene unscathed.

This is a simple situation made ridiculously complicated by the rules that are in play here. IMO I used my kill rights to take open fire on people who took me hostage. My friend Nic also used defender rights to take out Windex when he saw me as a hostage. 

So for the last time 

"Different guy it was someone else and they had nothing to do with the initiation it was me who initiated on you and you didn't have kill rights on them just on saviors"

I don't think so sunshine. If this guy wasn't part of the initiation then I'm the Pope.

 

 

Edited by JamieBoy

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My bad thought I posted but my POV: For the past three days we were in NWAF we were being attacked by nationalist over and over so we took this guy in for questioning after asking him all these question we let him go about 30 minutes later he came back killing me and lucas. Lucas thinks its KOS but in all honesty after watching the video I think the report should be drop there was no kos in it because lucas and his group did aim guns at him and robbed some of his things.

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29 minutes ago, GrizZzDaGawd said:

My bad thought I posted but my POV: For the past three days we were in NWAF we were being attacked by nationalist over and over so we took this guy in for questioning after asking him all these question we let him go about 30 minutes later he came back killing me and lucas. Lucas thinks its KOS but in all honesty after watching the video I think the report should be drop there was no kos in it because lucas and his group did aim guns at him and robbed some of his things.

Thank you for providing your POV. Your temp ban has been removed. please keep an eye on the report in case we have any further questions.

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Thank you all for your patience,
A team of staff members have reviewed this report and we have come to the following conclusion regarding it.

 

Summary |

We'll start with a brief summary of the situation at hand,

Luke Henderson is at one the bunkers on the 'North West Airfield' with a couple of Saviors and some other people. He goes away from the bunker for a while to loot up, but upon returning he gets word that there is someone at their base (JamieBoy) and that the Saviors are going to initiate on him. He decided to provide back-up and meets up with the Saviors to help them with the hostage. He points his weapon at him while he is being moved inside and keeps an eye on the hostage while he is being interrogated. The Saviors interrogate the hostage for a while and eventually decide to let him go. When JamieBoy is let go he meets up with his friend ComradeBandit and they decide to gear up to take revenge. They gather some weapons, take positions and wait for an opportunity to strike. As they are all sitting and standing on top of the bunker, JamieBoy and ComradeBandit open fire, killing Luke Henderson and wounding GrizZzDaGawd. Eventually, a short fire-fight breaks out in which GrizZzDaGawd is killed.

 

Addressing the Rule Breaks |

We'll start this off with the 'Invalid Kill' on Luke Henderson,

@Luke Henderson, you actively involved yourself in the situation by aiming your gun at JamieBoy multiple times. In the video you provided you are also seen being actively involved in and fully aware of the situation that is unfolding, as things like; "Luke, overwatch please." can be heard being said. JamieBoy recognized you as one of the men that was involved in the situation and decide to open fire and kill you.

Due to this, JamieBoy's kill on you is valid. You actively involved yourself in the hostage situation and aimed your gun at JamieBoy, thus committing a hostile action against him and granting him kill-rights

In the future, we'd like to advise you to not aim your gun at a hostage if you are not involved in the situation, but rather to keep a distance from it as to not involve yourself in it.

 

 

Secondly, we'll address the 'Combat Log' on Annabelle smit,

@Annabelle smit, you logged out 9 minutes after being shot by and shooting at JamieBoy. You claim that you had a bug which 'caused you health to constantly go down, but I'm afraid that we have no proof to show if this is true or not. Regardless, you still had 20 minutes before your combat log timer expired and therefore you are guilty of combat log.

If something like this happens again in the future, we'd like to advise you to join the help-desk and try to contact those whom have kill-rights on you. This way you can explain the situation and ask them for permission to log out.

 

Outcome |

@JamieBoy | Invalid Kill | Not Guilty - No Actions Taken

@Annabelle smit | Combat Log | Guilty - 3 Day Ban, 10 Warning Points

 

Signed | @Banshee & @RandyRP
Notes | @Osku-chan

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