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S1: NVFL in Grishino - 2018-11-02, 21:09 ish


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Server and location: s1: Grishino

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 2018-11-02, 21:09

Your in game name: Nigel Jensen

Names of allies involved: Jay Cartwright, Tobi Fishwick

Name of suspect/s: Unknown

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any):  

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): 

 

Detailed description of the events: So we in Grisihino, have had a little incounter with the lads with Black armbands, they stole one of our ak's saying it was theirs as it was Cherno russian, which i fine, we told them not to come back as they cant just take our guns. Later this lad thats been very agressive verbal, comes back, we're about 6-8 people around him, and then he just shoots one of us. i would very much call this a rule violation as he didnt value his life at all. 

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Server and location: The locked dayzrp server in Grishino

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): around midday surely.

Your in game name: Ritchie

Names of allies involved: I was with the guys that defend the town.

Name of suspect/s: Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): N/A Some Russian.

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): Detailed description of the events: So I bumped into a guy called Doc Issac.. Apparently he was the trader of the town with reports of high activity I asked if I could tag along with him to the town.. He was pretty cool answered all my questions as I am a NUB to role playing on dayz. We came into the town everything was all great they had a prisoner and the bandits had fucked off... Im sorting my gear trying to trade for an M4 stanag mag. They grouped up at the end of the road so I headed over to check it out.. Some random guy was just strolling in and everyone was hammering questions at him he was clearly hostile saying its not their town... There was a massive bunch so I decided to try and take a screen shot, why me I dont know but I am not happy.. A fire fight and loosing your gear yeah all cool but like this is lame as and makes me want to role with the guys that play that way. He shot me dead on the spot I lost 6 hours worth of gear and its my first time back on dayz in a fair few years as I stopped after about 2 years playing release. Saw a video heard about this server liked the idea so thought Id give it a try. Right up until that moment I really enjoyed being back...

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  • Sapphire

Here's a good bird's eye view of everything that happend 5 minutes after the bullets started flying.

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Esme Maganti POV: i was in Grishino talking to all these guys dressed as soilders. they informed me that the Kemenici had been there before i arrived and stolen some guns, and that they were expecting them to come back, so i stayed to help them out, since my character mulitply times have been hurt my them and theaten. then a guy arrive in town and they stop him to ask him some quistions and then i just see that he starts shooting a guy, and i aimed my gun at him and shoot, i don't know if i hit him, but since he just shoot one of the guys surrounding him, i was not sure it was just that guy he was going to shoot, and saw him as a theat to my life and others. then i start telling the other guys to calm down, only because i did'nt hear an initiation, and i was not on ts with anybody, but i stil didnt hear it,  if i had heard that i would have been running that moment. then shoots starts going of and i see people dropping and i run into the "factory" building or what it is, and the doors get open and i tried to defend myself but died. the last time there was as situation like this, i was told my the people in Kemenici  "ooc" that since i am running with some people and not in a official group with them, they are allowed to kill me, because i am helping them, so i guess that gives the other people right to shoot rebelrp when he is shooting one guy thats maybe not in a group with the other people surrounding him. and for sure it did'nt seem like rebelrp valued his life, he is surrounded by so many people

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  • Legend

@Nigel_Jensen Please upload the entire recording, not just the clip. Logs will be posted shortly.

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5 minutes ago, RebelRP said:

In Camokid's video at 0:54 even after a few people have been killed, you are seen running around with your gun out. You did also shoot me without rights which contributed to my murder therefor Kamenici gained KoS on you. Also in 0:55 in Nigel's video you can hear one of the civilians in town shouting "I have my hands up." He was standing right next to you, in Nigel's video you hear the initiation clear as day even though he's on teamspeak with a bunch of people talking, Might I add you probably weren't in any teamspeak or talking to anyone OOC during the initiation so you would've heard it even more clearly

yes i ran with my gun out, and i did not hear an intiation at all, and i am fine with you guys having kos on me since i shoot at you, but since you already start shooting, even tho i did not hear and initiation from you or the people surronding you, i did not think there was going to be a fight right there and then. thats why i told people to calm down. thought it was just a guy shooting without initiation so did not think, that a fight would start. and i just thought that guy put his hands up, because you were shooting

p.s i shoot you because i stood a little back from the guy you shoot at, i did not now if you were trying to kill as many as possible and i felt that my life was at risk. 

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Jay Cartwright POV : Me and my 2 friends @Mobiletuna and @Nigel_Jensen head into Grishino to sell of some of our guns and supplies we had previously gathered. After setting up shop a few men wearing black arm bands approach the shop and take the ak47 from us saying that they own it and its manufactured in Cherno. Obviously we demand them to give it back and they refuse so we start clashing in an argument and eventually we tell to leave. After a while one of them comes back and we surround him and he pulls out a gun and starts spraying us down. I then shoot him and run into double red building and get killed.

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Hit Logs:

Ritchie

[2018/11/2 20:54:14]: (Ritchie) hit by (Vladimir Gagarin) to LeftArm with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:54:14]: (Ritchie) hit by (Vladimir Gagarin) to Torso with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:54:14]: (Ritchie) hit by (Vladimir Gagarin) to Torso with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:54:14]: (Ritchie) hit by (Vladimir Gagarin) to Torso with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:54:14]: (Ritchie) hit by (Vladimir Gagarin) to Torso with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:54:14]: (Ritchie) hit by (Vladimir Gagarin) to Torso with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:54:14]: (Ritchie) hit by (Vladimir Gagarin) to LeftArm with Bullet_762x39

Vladimir Gagarin

[2018/11/2 20:54:17]: (Vladimir Gagarin) hit by (Esme Maganti) to LeftArm with Bullet_762x39 
[2018/11/2 20:54:16]: (Vladimir Gagarin) hit by (Jay Cartwright) to RightArm with Bullet_556x45 
[2018/11/2 20:54:16]: (Vladimir Gagarin) hit by (Jay Cartwright) to RightArm with Bullet_556x45 
[2018/11/2 20:54:16]: (Vladimir Gagarin) hit by (Jay Cartwright) to RightArm with Bullet_556x45 
[2018/11/2 20:54:16]: (Vladimir Gagarin) hit by (Jay Cartwright) to Torso with Bullet_556x45 
[2018/11/2 20:54:16]: (Vladimir Gagarin) hit by (Jay Cartwright) to Head with Bullet_556x45 
[2018/11/2 20:54:16]: (Vladimir Gagarin) hit by (Jay Cartwright) to Torso with Bullet_556x45 
[2018/11/2 20:54:16]: (Vladimir Gagarin) hit by (Jay Cartwright) to Torso with Bullet_556x45 
[2018/11/2 20:54:15]: (Vladimir Gagarin) hit by (Jay Cartwright) to Torso with Bullet_556x45 
[2018/11/2 20:54:15]: (Vladimir Gagarin) hit by (Jay Cartwright) to Torso with Bullet_556x45 
[2018/11/2 20:54:15]: (Vladimir Gagarin) hit by (Jay Cartwright) to RightArm with Bullet_556x45 
[2018/11/2 20:54:15]: (Vladimir Gagarin) hit by (Gavin Harriss) to Torso with Bullet_762x39 
[2018/11/2 20:54:15]: (Vladimir Gagarin) hit by (Jay Cartwright) to Torso with Bullet_556x45 
[2018/11/2 20:54:15]: (Vladimir Gagarin) hit by (Quentin Cooper) to Torso with Bullet_762x54 
[2018/11/2 20:54:15]: (Vladimir Gagarin) hit by (Jay Cartwright) to Torso with Bullet_556x45 
[2018/11/2 20:54:15]: (Vladimir Gagarin) hit by (Gavin Harriss) to Torso with Bullet_762x39 
[2018/11/2 20:54:15]: (Vladimir Gagarin) hit by (Nigel Jensen) to Torso with Bullet_556x45 
[2018/11/2 20:54:15]: (Vladimir Gagarin) hit by (Jay Cartwright) to LeftArm with Bullet_556x45 

Jay Cartwright

[2018/11/2 20:54:48]: (Jay Cartwright) hit by (Sergei Bourak) to Torso with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:54:48]: (Jay Cartwright) hit by (Sergei Bourak) to RightLeg with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:54:50]: (Jay Cartwright) hit by (Sergei Bourak) to RightArm with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:54:50]: (Jay Cartwright) hit by (Sergei Bourak) to Head with Bullet_762x39

Quentin Cooper

[2018/11/2 20:54:53]: (Quentin Cooper) hit by (Isaac Ermakov) to Head with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:54:54]: (Quentin Cooper) hit by (Isaac Ermakov) to Torso with Bullet_762x39

Toby Fishwick

[2018/11/2 20:55:19]: (Toby Fishwick) hit by (Kodiak Vetrov) to RightLeg with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:55:20]: (Toby Fishwick) hit by (Kodiak Vetrov) to Torso with Bullet_762x39

Kodiak Vetrov

[2018/11/2 20:55:20]: (Toby Fishwick) hit by (Kodiak Vetrov) to LeftLeg with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:55:20]: (Toby Fishwick) hit by (Kodiak Vetrov) to Torso with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:55:20]: (Nigel Jensen) hit by (Kodiak Vetrov) to RightArm with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:55:21]: (Nigel Jensen) hit by (Kodiak Vetrov) to RightArm with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:55:21]: (Nigel Jensen) hit by (Kodiak Vetrov) to Torso with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:55:22]: (Nigel Jensen) hit by (Kodiak Vetrov) to RightLeg with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:55:22]: (Nigel Jensen) hit by (Kodiak Vetrov) to Torso with Bullet_762x39

Simon Stackson

[2018/11/2 20:56:29]: (Simon Stackson) hit by (Kodiak Vetrov) to LeftArm with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:56:29]: (Simon Stackson) hit by (Kodiak Vetrov) to Torso with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:56:29]: (Simon Stackson) hit by (Kodiak Vetrov) to Torso with Bullet_762x39

Esme Maganti

[2018/11/2 20:56:45]: (Esme Maganti) hit by (Isaac Ermakov) to LeftArm with Bullet_762x39
[2018/11/2 20:56:48]: (Esme Maganti) hit by (Isaac Ermakov) to Head with Bullet_762x39

Gray Crimson

[2018/11/2 20:56:54]: (Gray Crimson) hit by (Ambroz Komarek) to Torso with Bullet_556x45
[2018/11/2 20:56:54]: (Gray Crimson) hit by (Ambroz Komarek) to Torso with Bullet_556x45
[2018/11/2 20:56:54]: (Gray Crimson) hit by (Ambroz Komarek) to RightLeg with Bullet_556x45
[2018/11/2 20:56:54]: (Gray Crimson) hit by (Ambroz Komarek) to LeftLeg with Bullet_556x45
[2018/11/2 20:56:54]: (Gray Crimson) hit by (Ambroz Komarek) to Torso with Bullet_556x45
[2018/11/2 20:56:54]: (Gray Crimson) hit by (Ambroz Komarek) to RightLeg with Bullet_556x45
[2018/11/2 20:56:54]: (Gray Crimson) hit by (Ambroz Komarek) to RightLeg with Bullet_556x45

Gavin Harriss

[2018/11/2 20:58:21]: (Gavin Harriss) hit by (Ambroz Komarek) to RightLeg with Bullet_556x45
[2018/11/2 20:58:22]: (Gavin Harriss) hit by (Ambroz Komarek) to Torso with Bullet_556x45

Kill Logs:

[2018/11/2 20:54:14]: (Ritchie) killed by (Vladimir Gagarin)
[2018/11/2 20:54:15]: (Vladimir Gagarin) killed by (Jay Cartwright) 
[2018/11/2 20:54:50]: (Jay Cartwright) killed by (Sergei Bourak)
[2018/11/2 20:54:54]: (Quentin Cooper) killed by (Isaac Ermakov)
[2018/11/2 20:55:20]: (Toby Fishwick) killed by (Kodiak Vetrov)
[2018/11/2 20:55:22]: (Nigel Jensen) killed by (Kodiak Vetrov)
[2018/11/2 20:56:29]: (Simon Stackson) killed by (Kodiak Vetrov)
[2018/11/2 20:56:48]: (Esme Maganti) killed by (Isaac Ermakov)
[2018/11/2 20:56:54]: (Gray Crimson) killed by (Ambroz Komarek)
[2018/11/2 20:58:22]: (Gavin Harriss) killed by (Ambroz Komarek)

Connection Logs:

[2018/11/2 20:52:32]: (Sergei Bourak) connected 
[2018/11/2 21:15:35]: (Sergei Bourak) disconnected
[2018/11/2 21:17:10]: (Sergei Bourak) connected 
[2018/11/2 22:2:36]: (Sergei Bourak) disconnected 
[2018/11/2 20:44:10]: (Isaac Ermakov) connected 
[2018/11/2 21:16:34]: (Isaac Ermakov) disconnected 
[2018/11/2 21:19:8]: (Isaac Ermakov) connected 
[2018/11/2 22:6:12]: (Isaac Ermakov) disconnected 
[2018/11/2 20:48:47]: (Kodiak Vetrov) connected 
[2018/11/2 21:16:25]: (Kodiak Vetrov) disconnected 
[2018/11/2 21:17:21]: (Kodiak Vetrov) connected 
[2018/11/2 22:3:22]: (Kodiak Vetrov) disconnected 
[2018/11/2 20:48:20]: (Ambroz Komarek) connected 
[2018/11/2 21:16:23]: (Ambroz Komarek) disconnected 
[2018/11/2 21:16:54]: (Ambroz Komarek) connected 
Still IG

Calling in the following to post some glorious POVs:

Vladimir Gagarin   | @RebelRP [Posted]
Sergei Bourak        | @MurasakibaraRP Posted
Isaac Ermakov       | @Lucas [Posted]
Kodiak Vetrov         | @Farmer-BorisRP Posted
Ambroz Komarek   | @ExoticRP Posted

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Ritchie                   | @Ritchie [Posted]
Jay Cartwright     | @KidSmithsta [Posted]
Quentin Cooper   | @quintenvdr Posted
Toby Fishwick      | @Mobiletuna [Not Posted]
Esme Maganti      | @Sophie[Posted]
Gray Crimson        | @Resentful [Not Posted]
Simon Stackson   | @Kendryck [Not Posted]

And just a quick PSA. We don't allow forum names and you need to have full names, even if you are one of the inbetweeners. @Ritchie @KidSmithsta
 

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Isaac Ermakov: I set up on the people follow rebel from across the town where Rebel gets sprayed down. @MurasakibaraRP tells me he initiated and I see people begin to aim at the place where the initiation came from and also a vast amount of gunshots. I begin to pop people including the mosin guy aiming at the red house infront of the supermarket due to him not complying, I then find my way to the sewing workshop place where sophie is and end up killing her due to her non compliance and also aiming her weapon at me. I then check the town and deal with some people walking into town. END OF POV

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I dont see how you guys setting people up changed anything, it seem like we still had the number on you. And most of you guys are talking about what happens after what the report is about, this report is only about that guy that ran in, and shot a dude while we had him surrounded. 

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Ambroz POV-

I was in the process of setting up when I hear a lot of shots and that rebel is dead.  @MurasakibaraRP then says that he has initiated.  I kill 1 man outside of the grocery store that had shot Rebel.  I then initiate on the grocery store and get the free medics out of there before I shoot through the door in the back of the store killing the non-compliant man.  I don't really have anything to add to the report just the stuff and happened after.

 

Would just like to clairify that I only shot people who shot rebel

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  • Sapphire

Hello Im here to provide my POV:

 

So im just chilling in Grish behind a wall when @RebelRP gets initiated on by one guy and the rest sprays him down without rights. After watching Rebel getting murdered we decided to initiate on everyone for less confussion

Mura then initiates on everyone just to be sure. Then they start attacking the red house with mura in it so I pop around the corner and kill 2 peps to save mura. I then run around for a bit untill I push a house and kill another guy I then clear some houses. After the rp is done I leave town POV DONE

 

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Bourak POV:

I'm chilling in Grishino dealing with some IRL stuff as I'm situated in Double Red infront of the well. As I hear Rebel get surrounded and initiated on by a guy who doesn't have rights which also sprays him I unmute and start to listen at what's going on. I then initiate just to be sure and almost immediately which can be seen in the video, I have 1 guy push me which ends up with me popping one. Two guys further tries to push in, and I reload and then Boris comes in to kill the guys and save me. As the situation spins out I initiate at a guy who laid down atop of the small kebab store thing.

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My POV:

Standing ontop of the Supermarket in which is the reason this fight happened and then i see cross the street a sing  Chenero Russian pull out his gun and shoot the guy directly infront of him. Due to my instinct i Pull out my ak and shoot him but by the time i fired the 4 people that shot him already killed him.

Immediately i  run of the roof and relocate to a better position to spot all the other Attackers then a guy runs round the corner and riddles me with bullets

END OF POV

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8 hours ago, MurasakibaraRP said:

Bourak POV:

I'm chilling in Grishino dealing with some IRL stuff as I'm situated in Double Red infront of the well. As I hear Rebel get surrounded and initiated on by a guy who doesn't have rights which also sprays him I unmute and start to listen at what's going on. I then initiate just to be sure and almost immediately which can be seen in the video, I have 1 guy push me which ends up with me popping one. Two guys further tries to push in, and I reload and then Boris comes in to kill the guys and save me. As the situation spins out I initiate at a guy who laid down atop of the small kebab store thing.

You say he gets initiated on where? We escort him into town and the last words said before he shot us is "this is our town" no communication of we are going to kill him. He RMD'ed the guy infront of us so we killed him.

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9 hours ago, Farmer-BorisRP said:

Hello Im here to provide my POV:

 

So im just chilling in Grish behind a wall when @RebelRP gets initiated on by one guy and the rest sprays him down without rights.

Initiated!? I never fired a shot. I was overwhelmed by how many players were there I was trying to get a screen shot as with my years since launch I have never come across that many people in one spot. I am still learning the whole role play aspect but by my eyes there was none at the specific moment. I have no beef with anyone I was listening in just about to press F12 and you opened fired with no RP involved being surrounded like that. In all honesty they done  the right thing by spraying him down you cant just come into a place full of civilians firing. Unfair actions. I am over it now, just seems like a lame ass move you knew what the consequences would have been you made no attempt to communicate. Poor sportsmanship.

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i am really confused here. when did the initiation happen too rebelrp? nobody told him to get his hands up or drop his weapon, and i did not hear rebelrp initiate before shooting the guy.

Quistion to staff: is it a initiation to point a gun at somebody, without saying anything? if it is, then when a person is aiming their gun at me to look at me though their scope, can i then take that as an initiation?

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45 minutes ago, RebelRP said:

Like I explained if you'd bother reading my POV. One man said, "Take up positions" then he said "Stop right fucking now." When he said that his friend raised his gun and aimed it at me. Isnt it very clearly that if I didnt stop right there I would've been shot? He is demanding that I stop whilst his friend has me at gunpoint. It would be the same scenario if I would've told somebody put your hands up whilst my own friend has a gun on him. I dont necessarily have to say put your hands up or die. Because at the end of the day it's still at gunpoint. A hostile demand at gun point - sounds like an initiation to me. 

Hmm then it makes no sense that you did not comply, insteed of shooting. 

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1 hour ago, RebelRP said:

Like I explained if you'd bother reading my POV. One man said, "Take up positions" then he said "Stop right fucking now." When he said that his friend raised his gun and aimed it at me. Isnt it very clearly that if I didnt stop right there I would've been shot? He is demanding that I stop whilst his friend has me at gunpoint. It would be the same scenario if I would've told somebody put your hands up whilst my own friend has a gun on him. I dont necessarily have to say put your hands up or die. Because at the end of the day it's still at gunpoint. A hostile demand at gun point - sounds like an initiation to me. 

You say "is it not clear that i would have been shot if i did not stop moving" NO. No one said you stop or die. Someone said "stop fucking moving" thats not initiation. You cannot assume you was going to be shot if you stopped moving because no one clarified you would be.

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26 minutes ago, RebelRP said:

A fully automatic rifle pointed at your head isn't clarification? It's the same case if I told you to put your hands up with my mate pointing a gun at you. It isnt clarified by my verbal actions that you will die if you dont put your hands up, because I didn't say you'll die. But its very clear if you have a fully automatic rifle pointed at your face.

 

There were 7 of you and 7 of us. Why would I comply? Well for the same reason you or nobody else in that town complied.

Re-watch the video... You raise your gun before any of us do. The guy behind you clearly miss-clicked right mouse button as he instantly raises then un raises his gun. No other person was aiming their gun at you until you decided to RDM the guy infront of you.

EDIT - Guy infront raises his gun. Still we have 7 people around you so you didin't value life

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1 minute ago, RebelRP said:

Dunno which video you're watching but in both of them he has his gun aimed at me through out the situation until I sidestep to break his aim which causes him to lower his weapon and then I take my shot. And yeah, I had 7 people around you guys aswell. And fyi one of those seven guys around me which you think were with you, is with us.

I'm aware the green tracksuit guy is with you. And yes I clarified I saw in the 2nd vid he was aiming his gun at you. Still you did not value your life. It doens't matter if you had a friend watching right next to you and friends hiding. If you are in a situation where there is 7 people with guns around you why would you actively kill someone without initiation and knowing you would die. NVFL and RDM  

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