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S1: KoS in Kabanino- 2018-05-05 around 04:00 or 04:30

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Server and location: Kabanino

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 2018-05-05 around 04:00 or 04:30

Your in game name: Michael Cross

Names of allies involved: @anonymous @MasterDovakiin  might be 2 more but idk their forum names off hand

Name of suspect/s: n/a

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): n/a

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): video soon

Detailed description of the events: We where asked to aid a group in a situation in Kab, I have not been yet officially accepted into the group i was rolling with , but instead on a trial period due to not being removed from a current group. I went to Kab and was watching from the barn area, decided to head towards Vybore and was shot and killed by unknown , i was not initiated on, i was not with my official group,  i was not acting hostile in any manner.  Video evidence should cover the ins an outs.

 

 

Edited by TehZombyBeard

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Exotic POV - 

I ran to a firefight in kab.  I saw you with a gun out in the firefight zone watching it going on.  I mowed you down.  

In all you were sitting in a firefight with your weapon out and I shot you.  This is a case of not valuing your characters life and this is the upmost rule-play and you were using the rules to shield yourself in an active firefight between groups which you knowingly entered on the side we were fighting.

You can even hear a member participating in the firefight talking in your coms.............

Also you were wearing the things out enemies were wearing, full black with a clown-mask 

Edited by ExoticRP

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Havel Novotny PoV:

After being called to come help the Damned get their boy back, @Honeybee, myself and @Lyca from animus came to help. Lyca initiates, they don't comply so I gain rights. After getting shot by @Puncture a short amount of time elapses before I see @ExoticRP gun down the OP. I kill Exotic shortly after. Eventually after this @UndeadRP and @Puncture rush out of the house they were in, I kill them both and fall uncon. I grab what i can after waking up, and run away because I'm fucked.

In this situation this fight had been going on for like 20-30 mins before the Op was killed, the whole situation was ablaze  in gunfire for a long time. This guy was in the middle of it, after being asked to aid our side. You were knowingly in the middle of a firefight and got killed...? I fail to see how Exotic is at fault here, you were well aware this was a hostile situation, you were running around with your gun out. Like, Exotic is not to blame here, he was acting on hostilew being in the area. 

Talked it out, Zombie can confirm

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Talked it out, chill now

Requesting close

 

Edited by TehZombyBeard

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I was asked to give my point of view. 

I was the one who invited the Syndicate/Black Roses into the situation. Someone mentioned Black Roses and my character had their frequency from a couple of months ago. I wound up talking to them because we saw a group of them in the area. Originally I was telling them to steer clear of the area and not to get involved unless they wanna fight the cops because there was a fire fight going on with hostages. They all kind of mumbled about it and had a discussion about whether they wanted to come or not because they were about to log off. I reiterated a couple of times that it was a fight against the PD and if they wanted to fuck with them, now was the time. One of them even said something along the lines of "Well you all wanted to get your names out!" In the end, they decided to come into the fight. I gave them warnings that shots were being fired and that the hostiles were around the piano house with 2-3 hostages. So, they all definitely knew it was a fire fight.

So uh, yeah. I don't know what's going on. He came into the open coms and asked to talk to me OOCly, trying to figure out who shot him so he could decide if he wanted to put up a report. I told him I wasnt really sure, might have been one of our guys? And yeah, thats about it.

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Exotic asked Lori to let me know he believes TehZombyBeard knew that there was an active hostile situation, and Lori would back him up.

The conversation of @Para and @ExoticRP talking to @TehZombyBeard can be heard below, proving he claims to not know of any active hostile situation. Video stripped for irrelevance. Quick warning, might just be me, but it's pretty damn loud, so maybe turn volume down and then adjust

 

Edited by Whitename

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I'm ok with closing this report as well.

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Connection Logs:

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01:11:26 | Player "Michael Cross" is connected
05:45:42 | Player "Michael Cross" has been disconnected

04:47:30 | Player "Danny Rucker" is connected
05:11:54 | Player "Danny Rucker" has been disconnected

05:04:05 | Player "Havel Novotny" is connected
06:35:23 | Player "Havel Novotny" has been disconnected

01:00:55 | Player "Joseph Smith" is connected
05:43:50 | Player "Joseph Smith" has been disconnected

03:40:43 | Player "James Porkins" is connected
05:53:44 | Player "James Porkins" has been disconnected

01:03:36 | Player "Calandra Vlcek" is connected
04:26:31 | Player "Calandra Vlcek" has been disconnected
04:28:40 | Player "Calandra Vlcek" is connected
06:35:42 | Player "Calandra Vlcek" has been disconnected

01:03:24 | Player "Avery Dailey" is connected
-Restart-

02:58:59 | Player "Roxanne Garcia" is connected
-Restart-

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Hit Logs:

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04:52:39 | "Joseph Smith SHOT Havel Novotny by M4A1_Green into RightArm."

05:10:41 | "Danny Rucker SHOT Michael Cross by AugSteyr into LeftLeg."
05:10:41 | "Danny Rucker SHOT Michael Cross by AugSteyr into Head."
05:10:42 | "Danny Rucker SHOT Michael Cross by AugSteyr into leftarm."
05:10:46 | "Danny Rucker SHOT Michael Cross by AugSteyr into head."

05:11:50 | "Havel Novotny SHOT Danny Rucker by AugSteyr into head."

05:17:57 | "Havel Novotny SHOT James Porkins by AugSteyr into LeftArm."

05:17:58 | "Havel Novotny SHOT Joseph Smith by AugSteyr into LeftArm."
05:17:59 | "Havel Novotny SHOT Joseph Smith by AugSteyr into LeftArm."

05:17:59 | "Joseph Smith SHOT Havel Novotny by AugSteyr into pelvis."

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Death Logs:

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05:10:46 | Player "Michael Cross" has been killed by player "Danny Rucker"

05:11:50 | Player "Danny Rucker" has been killed by player "Havel Novotny"

05:17:57 | Player "James Porkins" has been killed by player "Havel Novotny"

05:17:59 | "Joseph Smith DIED Blood <= 0"

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Chat Logs:

N/A to the individual report situation.

 

Calling in the following people to post a full POV and any evidence they may have:

@Honeybee - Avery Dailey

 

Already posted POV:

@ExoticRP - Danny Rucker       @Para - Havel Novotny       @Lori - Roxanne Garcia      @UndeadRP - James Porkins         @Lyca - Calandra Vlcek      @Puncture - Joseph Smith

 

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Honestly the longer this report is up the dumber I Feel, as you can hear in the voice chat White name posted, it didn't take long to realize that i misunderstood a few things and clearly felt like an idiot for even bringing this to report, I Was Wrong, Period, we talked and both agreed that it was silly to waist staff time to resolve what we already resolved, thus my request to close this report, at this point I'm just worried about my reputation to the community, I don't want to be known as "That Guy who posted that Dumb Report that one time" , so Regardless of if you have to ban me or what ever, i honestly just want it Closed.

Thanks

 

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37 minutes ago, TehZombyBeard said:

Honestly the longer this report is up the dumber I Feel, as you can hear in the voice chat White name posted, it didn't take long to realize that i misunderstood a few things and clearly felt like an idiot for even bringing this to report, I Was Wrong, Period, we talked and both agreed that it was silly to waist staff time to resolve what we already resolved, thus my request to close this report, at this point I'm just worried about my reputation to the community, I don't want to be known as "That Guy who posted that Dumb Report that one time" , so Regardless of if you have to ban me or what ever, i honestly just want it Closed.

Thanks

 

We have acknowledged this, but before we make any decisions we need everyone's respective POV's.

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Understood

 

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POV Calandra Vlcek:

@Para and me went to Kabanino to support the damned to get @Honeybee back, who got initiated on by Bila Ruka. My character is furious since Honeybee's character is her best friend so as soon as we arrive I move to the piano house. I circle around it a few times nervously and since Para and me didn't had any rights yet, I initiate on everyone inside. They don't comply to my demands and Para finally arrives who was nearby. I hear that they call for backup and I am running around like a headless chicken scared that I would get shot from behind. At some point someone is pointing out that he saw someone with a black armband and we know that Black Roses are wearing them. So @Lori is talking to them and asks them for help. I was a bit further away looking for the backup but after Para didn't answer his radio anymore I went deeper into the city again near the barns, as the true friend I am, to go look for him. I finally found him between the barn complex and the piano house where he told me that he is injured and needs help. At this point we rescued the hostage and Para and me vanish into the night so I can take care of him with saline bags and a splint. 

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We grab honeybees character because we have reports he had been torturing people and when we tried to question and document him he tried to sprint away. We needed proof that he was indeed who we thought he was ( we had plenty of reasons to believe he was) but he continued to deny his identity and act as though he was a mute . After investigation I contact one of the witnesses that saw him commit these crimes and we move to kabanino to have the witness identify him. When we arrive the witness Robbie can’t seem to identify him and the man still won’t speak . So or characters being vigilantes and my character specifically having a problem with criminals who degrade people( which he was accused of) decide to give him a taste of his own medicine . I ask Robbie to leave where he apparently then decides to contact the rest of honeybees group( from what I’m told) and together the damned and animus rush towards kabanino . During this time we torture honeybee attempting to get him to talk. After smashin his kneecaps, ribs, face, etc, he eventually types ooc that he has to go for 10-20. We rp he passes out and wait. Now constantly hearing movement from outside the house at one point myself and Lucas’s warm everyone to please leave the area or they will be arrested. One man refuses to leave the situation( and had been refusing to leave for a while) even though asked / told by Lucass and my self about 9 times, he would not leave. So I made the decision to arrest him . I ran away a bit told lucass to detain the man and ran back. He intitated on him and I am immediately shot in the back/arm twice as he obviously had overwatch which is why he wouldn’t leave. I run inside and get patched up by the doctor and honeybee wakes up from his ooc break. The firefight continues as more and more people arrive and begin initiating on the building . We send our own intiations out to make sure everything is legitimate and eventually when I know they can hear me ( since they were talking to us in voip range) I make demands that they have to leave the town and stop attacking us, giving us a chance to escape or I would kill their hostage . ( I had two at this point but I was referring to the second one we took which was the cause of me getting shot). They don’t leave the town, Continue to attack. The hostage is eventually killed after given a chance to say his last words and such. Eventually myself and puncture decide that we need to make a break for it and try to escape before they got in the house more and we run out. Para then destroys me and my low blood and high bone damage , and kills puncture as he knocks him out. 

I have no problems with the way the rp and fight went was a great time and an excellent loss .

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Joseph Smith POV

@UndeadRP and I detain @Honeybee and after he tried running from us. We then escort him to kabanino to meet with a witness. After role playing with him for around 30-45 minutes we began hearing foot steps outside so @Lucass checks it out and ends up initating on the person outside. After that people began shooting at us from the hills one or two of those bullets hits undead. A few minutes later @Lucass dies then shortly after we hear a couple more people initiate one tries coming in piano and I shoot him once in the arm and he runs off. A little bit later @ExoticRP comes from the hills and kills one and dies right after, then me and undead rush out and we both die

 

 

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Avery Dailey POV:

As Puncture and Undead said, they snagged me and brought me to Kabanino, where there was some absolutely great torture for a good while; I had to go AFK for a hot minute, so we RPed that Avery had been knocked unconscious, and when I came back a firefight was already in full gear. I had no sight on anything happening, as I was held on the second floor of the piano house. After Undead and Puncture were shot, I was dragged out of the house and carried from Kabanino.

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Viktor Chesnov POV: We were torturing a guy we believed to be Avery from descriptions but he was playing a 'mute'.. We tortured him hoping to make him talk because every time we asked him how he lost his voice he would attempt to change the subject/not tell us.. I hear movement outside where I head outside and tell the guy to Please leave the town as we're currently dealing with a situation and that we don't like having people around at the moment... The guy then begins to act stupid in a Baiting manner by constantly going.. "You want me to leave? Which way do I go? Stary or Vybor?" or something along those lines.. I say multiple times "It doesn't matter just leave the town please" and he carries on with the "Which way do I go?" I end up just getting pissed off so I decide to initiate on him. About 5 or so seconds later, Undead is shot from the south hill area by I'm assuming his friends and we dip into the house with the hostage.. We then hear an Initiation from someone outside the house and I decide to dip outta the house to try and kill people/get a better position and I attempt to kill one but get one tapped in the progress..

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So I have permission from @Brady to post in this report.

POV of Dr. Hope Pisces:

As a neutral party, I was radio'd that Robbie ( @Malthis) was needed to confirm about Avery ( @Honeybee). I have a meet up zone where Robbie and Officer Porkins ( @UndeadRP) were to meet up in Kabanino to confirm about Avery's identity. I wait downstairs with two other people (who were randomers and cannot recall their names).

I was requested by Porkins to follow them upstairs to maintain watch medically. So I did, Honeybee only emoted and heavy breaths. Mainly writing and such. Eventually it gets to a point where Porkins is fed up and loses his shit, allowing Officer Smith to torture him to break the man into cries or any slight chance of hearing his voice. But he remains silent. Another man comes from nowhere - asked to leave - doesn't and is arrested too.  

We are RPing with now two hostages in which all of a sudden we hear @Lori and @Lyca telling "Everyone in the building put your hands up!" A firefight breaks out leading eventually to Porkins and Smith dying. 

I have my hands on my head in case of Mis-ID whilst sat next to Avery and emote having to rush him from the building with support to get the fuck outta dodge. We were then followed by Irish and @LemonRP group. Initiated on again. But that is another story and located at Stary Lonely House.

Edited by Mademoiselle

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A group of staff members have reviewed this report in full and have consequently decided to close it, considering the fact that both sides have resolved the issue and agree that the faults were understood. Despite this, we have deemed it necessary to iron out a few things to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again:

@ExoticRP In your POV you claim that you killed @TehZombyBeard because he was wearing full black + clown mask, however, the OP's evidence shows that he, in fact, wasn't wearing a clown mask (at least when you killed him). We are not making any claims that you were at fault here, but we ask that you properly ID your targets in a firefight as to avoid making a fault, especially when entering an active firefight.

TehZombyBeard, we understand you have talked it out and understand why you were not in fact KoSed, but we wish to make it clear that if you are taking part in an active firefight, you will be killed on sight, if you do not wish to be killed simply leave the area or surrender/make it clear you are a non combatant.

With that said.

/Report Closed

Signed: @Oliv @Harvey

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