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Empress Nino

S1: NVFL, attempted KOS, possible bad RP - 04/26/18 ~ 20:35

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Server and location: S1 GM

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER  ~ 20:35

Your in game name: Nino Kobiashvili

Names of allies involved: Svboda, Kamenici, and Mountain Men

Name of suspect/s: New Society

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): unknown

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): N/A, will be added in soon.

Detailed description of the events: There was an initiation on a "marine" and as he was being brought into the GM compound I crashed. As I came back into the game when everything was spawning in there were two people outside of the compound "are you CDF?" 

"uhhh kinda yeah"

and they immediately gunned me down next to a compound with a shit ton of people. I don't know the exact events after that but they were promptly killed. They ended up taking shots at some Mountain Men according to them, but they had no rights against them. Video footage will follow SoonTM.

NVFL against the two people who were outfront of the compound.

Edited by Empress Julia

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My POV: Sylva and I initiated on @Coughman, he complied and we took him inside the compound at GM, about 4 minutes later a guy started running around the compound screaming "Everyone hands up", which I ran out the Administrator building at GM, he ended up dying because he was by himself, prior to the situation I heard talking at the gates and gunshots which in that case Julia was shot but other than that, nothing really happened.


I don't have any evidence to support my claims.

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My POV: We were at GM in a meeting with the Mountain Men and the NAPA militia when a man claiming to be marine stepped outside. I was involved in a separate meeting with the Mountain Men, but when I came outside, they were ready to initiate on this guy. They do, and we do some hostile RP that involves an interrogation, public humiliation/apologies. During all this, Julia gets killed - we hear shots and then see Julia dead. We have like a dozen people in the compound, and all of them take defensive positions. I get an opportunity and dome the guy with my SKS, and we search the words for more, to no avail. So we really are kind of just thinking "why attack when your outnumbered like six to one." But later, after we take our hostage to Camp Redemption (our political reeducation center) we make him farm as a way to make amends. Then, out of nowhere, while Clarence is alt-tabbed, we get shot with a bunch of AK rounds. I just start running and then get hit, and fall unconscious. Five seconds later, I am executed, while on the ground.

I talked with the accused in TS and I will post the conversation here. My biggest thing here is why kill me when you could have RP'd this out? I was unconscious, so why execute? I understand you technically have kill rights (as I killed APTerminator) but still, I feel like there was a lot of missed RP potential here. Nevertheless props to The New Society for talking this out over TS. With Julia's permission I think its solved, but its up to her.

Anyways that's my two cents, TS video will be up soon. 

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Jason Hodgens POV:

Me and @Grim meetup with @coughman & @GodOfInternetLag at a house by Green mountain, with plans to go to Green mountain with a plan for a confrontation with Svoboda. We get there, split into two teams, and scope out the place. Coughman and Grim are found, and quickly ganged up on, and we retreated and told them to meet us there. After an interrogation Coughman was initiated on, Grim was not. Both were taken into GM and myself and Godofinternetlag went up with a plan to pick off those that we could. I walk up to the gate, and with my shit pc, I think that @Empress Julia logging in was just her popping in. I confirm that she is in fact Svoboda, and proceed to take her out. Mind you, that Julia was all alone at the front of the compound, and she was the only person at the front of the compound in my line of sight. After killing her I initiate on the entire compound several times, standing by the wall, making sure people hear it. Godofinternetlag was right behind me across the road. After this, I see someone run across the compound, and I fire at them. After that I get shot several times and die. At that point I mute and go strictly to OOC.

I have video evidence, and will upload it if the report is to continue.

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I meet up with AP and the boys and we decide to suss out Green mountain, we split up and coughman and grim end up getting found in the woods, so me and AP back up a bit to see how things play out. After awhile things seemed calm enough until Grim was initiated on in the compound by what we knew as the CDF/svoboda. So me and AP went up to the gates all casual like and met this woman standing at the gate, AP talks with her for awhile until he gets double conformation of her being Svoboda, then he mows her down with an mp5(Scaring the shit out of me in the process) after that he takes a position near the gate and i do the same, he starts screaming initiations into the compound and after maybe 15-25 seconds starts taking shots at the people inside, soon after he is killed. At this point im still near the gate and i can hear the people inside yelling something like "Be careful there could be more out there". So not liking my chances i run off down the road and hide in a tree near the dirt path that goes to the summer camp, figuring id stay there and see how things went for Coughman and grim. after awhile grim gets released because of some kind of sleeper agent thing i didn't understand, and not long after i hear a fuckload of separate gunshots. Knowing that coughman was still in the compound and the Svoboda being a military group of sorts i assumed he had been executed by firing squad or something similar. So i stick around for awhile longer and then start making my way past the summer camp into the woods, i was playing it safe and paranoid,looking over my shoulder and what not, and then noticed two blokes escorting a bloke in handcuffs toward the summer camp. And i didn't think much of it at first considering i thought Coughman had been executed. But as i got a little further away i said fuck it, and went for a look anyway.  So i snuck up using the trees as cover and got a bit of a look into the summer camp grounds, and i watched and waited until the two Svoboda boys were close together with there backs turned, and snuck up alongside the fence to find a way in. Unfortunately most of the ways in were blocked by tents, but i did get close enough to here them interrogating what i now knew to be Coughman. So i backtracked a bit and found a way through the fence, took a few deep breaths, and ran up behind them with my gun raised, when i got maybe 2 meters from them i sprayed down the first guy, my pc froze for a solid second as i moved to spray the second, but unfroze just in time for me to get a shot or two in before he ducked behind one of the cabins, i immediately sprinted after him, and turned the corner seeing  a Svoboda on the ground, at the time i hadn't given much thought to if he was uncon or not, i was in full try hard mode and shot the first uniform i saw. After that i ran back to where coughman was whos shouting "dont shoot dont shoot" or something like that and promptly yelled "Its me cunt fucking run, run now!" and we booked it the fuck out of there. after running in random directions for awhile AP told us that sylva was in open comms and wanted to talk, so after he talked he came back and told me he wanted to talk to me, but at that moment i was lost in the woods with coughman  and had just noticed i was brown thirsty, so Ap asked him if he wanted to wait awhile or if i could log to talk to him, he said i could log and so i did.

He basically wanted to know why i executed him while he was uncon instead of RP'ing but like i said i was in full try hard mode with the adrenaline flying.

 

Edited by GodOfInternetLag

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Connection Logs:

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19:00:49 | Player "Nino Kobiashvili" is connected 
- No Disconnect.-

19:42:34 | Player "Konstantin Demy" is connected 
00:21:38 | Player "Konstantin Demy" has been disconnected

19:00:51 | Player "Stepan Cernik" is connected 
- No Disconnect.-

20:16:14 | Player "Jason Hodgens" is connected 
00:57:44 | Player "Jason Hodgens" has been disconnected

20:24:24 | Player "William Woods" is connected
22:40:09 | Player "William Woods"has been disconnected

20:14:26 | Player "Gyth Brettson" is connected
22:42:03 | Player "Gyth Brettson" has been disconnected

20:26:16 | Player "Lucian Mortem" is connected
22:58:12 | Player "Lucian Mortem" has been disconnected

Hit Logs:

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21:42:17 | "Jason HodgensSHOT Nino Kobiashvili by MP5K into LeftArm."
21:42:17 | "Jason HodgensSHOT Nino Kobiashvili by MP5K into LeftArm."
21:42:17 | "Jason HodgensSHOT Nino Kobiashvili by MP5K into LeftArm."
21:42:18 | "Jason HodgensSHOT Nino Kobiashvili by MP5K into leftarm."
21:42:18 | "Jason HodgensSHOT Nino Kobiashvili by MP5K into leftarm."
21:42:18 | "Jason HodgensSHOT Nino Kobiashvili by MP5K into leftarm."
21:42:18 | "Jason HodgensSHOT Nino Kobiashvili by MP5K into leftarm."
21:42:18 | "Jason HodgensSHOT Nino Kobiashvili by MP5K into leftarm."
21:42:18 | "Jason HodgensSHOT Nino Kobiashvili by MP5K into leftarm."
21:42:18 | "Jason HodgensSHOT Nino Kobiashvili by MP5K into leftarm."
21:42:18 | "Jason HodgensSHOT Nino Kobiashvili by MP5K into leftarm."

21:43:51 | "Stepan Cernik SHOT Jason Hodgensby SKS_Black into RightLeg."
21:43:51 | "Stepan Cernik SHOT Jason Hodgensby SKS_Black into RightLeg."
21:43:51 | "Stepan Cernik SHOT Jason Hodgensby SKS_Black into RightLeg."
21:43:51 | "Stepan Cernik SHOT Jason Hodgensby SKS_Black into RightLeg."
21:43:52 | "Stepan Cernik SHOT Jason Hodgensby SKS_Black into LeftLeg."
21:43:52 | "Stepan Cernik SHOT Jason Hodgensby SKS_Black into LeftLeg."
21:43:52 | "Stepan Cernik SHOT Jason Hodgensby SKS_Black into LeftLeg."
21:43:52 | "Stepan Cernik SHOT Jason Hodgensby SKS_Black into LeftLeg."
21:43:52 | "Stepan Cernik SHOT Jason Hodgensby SKS_Black into LeftLeg."
21:54:59 | "Stepan Cernik HIT Gyth Brettson by fist into Chest."

22:26:18 | "William Woods SHOT Konstantin Demy by AugSteyr into LeftLeg."
22:26:18 | "William Woods SHOT Konstantin Demy by AugSteyr into LeftLeg."
22:26:18 | "William Woods SHOT Konstantin Demy by AugSteyr into LeftLeg."
22:26:18 | "William Woods SHOT Konstantin Demy by AugSteyr into LeftLeg."
22:26:18 | "William Woods SHOT Konstantin Demy by AugSteyr into pelvis."
22:26:18 | "William Woods SHOT Konstantin Demy by AugSteyr into pelvis."
22:26:18 | "William Woods SHOT Konstantin Demy by AugSteyr into pelvis."
22:26:18 | "William Woods SHOT Konstantin Demy by AugSteyr into pelvis."
22:26:18 | "William Woods SHOT Konstantin Demy by AugSteyr into pelvis."
22:26:18 | "William Woods SHOT Konstantin Demy by AugSteyr into pelvis."
22:26:18 | "William Woods SHOT Konstantin Demy by AugSteyr into pelvis."
22:26:22 | "William Woods SHOT Stepan Cernik by AugSteyr into LeftArm."
22:26:22 | "William Woods SHOT Stepan Cernik by AugSteyr into pelvis."
22:26:23 | "Player Stepan Cernik has fallen into unconsciousness."
22:26:23 | "William Woods SHOT Stepan Cernik by AugSteyr into Head."
22:26:23 | "William Woods SHOT Stepan Cernik by AugSteyr into LeftArm."
22:26:29 | "William Woods SHOT Stepan Cernik by AugSteyr into LeftLeg."
22:26:29 | "William Woods SHOT Stepan Cernik by AugSteyr into LeftLeg."
22:26:29 | "William Woods SHOT Stepan Cernik by AugSteyr into LeftLeg."
22:26:29 | "William Woods SHOT Stepan Cernik by AugSteyr into LeftLeg."

Death Logs:

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21:42:18 | Player "Nino Kobiashvili" has been killed by player "Jason Hodgens"
22:26:29 | Player "Stepan Cernik" has been killed by player "William Woods"
22:26:18 | Player "Konstantin Demy" has been killed by player "William Woods"
21:43:53 | "Jason HodgensDIED Blood <= 0"

Chat Logs: 

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19:25:05 | Chat("Nino Kobiashvili"): *She pulls a bottle of gin out of her bag and sets it on the counter*
19:25:46 | Chat("Nino Kobiashvili"): *She sifts through the papers*
19:27:04 | Chat("Nino Kobiashvili"): *she takes the paperwork and puts it away*
19:37:53 | Chat("Nino Kobiashvili"): *She opens the lid to her bottle of gin, takes a few swigs and then puts it away*

20:11:35 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *looks at Hosek and exchanges glances*
20:11:54 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *looks surprised, but tries to hide a snickering smile*
20:19:47 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *Nods*
20:22:45 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): //brb, one sec
20:25:20 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *crosses arms and frowns*
20:27:19 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *Whispers to Konstantin: look at these COBR. They're positively shaking in their polished boots.*
20:28:13 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *Rolls eyes*
20:28:32 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *frowns*
20:31:33 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *smirks*
20:33:50 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *looks at Radek*
20:36:23 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *frowns at the term "handler*

20:36:46 | Chat("Konstantin Demy"): // brb

20:38:04 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): //Meant to be middle finger sry
20:38:28 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *writes it in sharpie on his hand*
20:40:01 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *leans on the table and looks over, judging the men across the room*

20:40:25 | Chat("Konstantin Demy"): // back

20:44:14 | Chat("Gyth Brettson"): yES

20:47:14 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *Frowns and thinks about the question*
20:51:26 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *Rolls eyes*
20:51:54 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *Snickers at them*

20:55:41 | Chat("Gyth Brettson"): ok

21:40:40 | Chat("Konstantin Demy"): *cuts his vest straps*

21:51:43 | Chat("Gyth Brettson"): //hey
21:51:47 | Chat("Gyth Brettson"): //recover my head
21:51:52 | Chat("Gyth Brettson"): //i can see stuff

21:58:20 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): //PUTTING THIS ON SO YOU DONT DIE, RP YOUR NAKED
22:05:31 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *Shakes his head at the man's idiocy*
22:15:05 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *takes a sharpie and draws on his face*
22:15:10 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *LIAR*
22:15:14 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *STOLEN VALOR*
22:15:19 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): *SCUM*

00:40:55 | Chat("Nino Kobiashvili": *she raises her hand shakily*

00:53:15 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): //you on ts?
00:53:37 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): //join svoboda open comms if you are, easier than VOIP

00:54:24 | Chat("Nino Kobiashvili": *she snuggles with teddy*
00:56:19 | Chat("Nino Kobiashvili": *she puts teddy away and takes out stuffed kitty*

Already posted PoVs: @Empress Julia - Nino Kobiashvili, @Clarence Archer - Konstantin Demy, @Sylva - Stepan Cernik, @APTerminator - Jason Hodgens, @GodOfInternetLag - William Woods.

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Calling in @coughman - Gyth Brettson, @Grim - Lucian Mortem for their PoV and any allies/any and all unedited video evidence. 

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Lucian Mortem POV:

 

So as stated by the others we all meet up, and decide to try attacking GM. We split into 2 teams with me and Gyth around the front, while we scout the place out Svoboda approach from behind us unknown to us at first. As soon as we see them we begin to try moving away but are easily spotted. We begin making conversation with them at the gate and Gyth states he was a US Marine which changes the tone in the air. I say quite quickly how i dont really know the man and how i am from the UK when they ask me, eventually after asking him multiple times for his MOS and Gyth not knowing it, they initiate on him. At this point my character backs off a little but doesnt run away, once they take him inside the man i was talking to Radec (I think that was his name or how you spell it) begins to talk to me and asks if I wanted to come in, at first i say no but he hints that it wasnt really a question more a request that i enter.

 

After this me and Radec move to a separate corner and begin to converse, me explaining my characters story and how he got to Chernarus. After awhile we hear gunshots, which i assume now was AP taking out Julia and then hear the initiation on the compound, being surrounded by people with guns out i wasnt too thrilled with immediately taking my gun out and trying anything so i try my luck at waiting for a better opportunity which never arises. After a small amount of time, gun shots cease and I am approached by Radec and his commander who ask me to follow them, drop my weapons and backpack so they can question me.

 

After some questioning they allow me to leave, under the assumption I had no connection with Gyth or the attack and let me take my equipment back. I assume at this point both ic and ooc that i would move away, assuming after some small amounts of questioning that they would potentially let Gyth leave similar to me but hear the gunshots and assume they killed him. From this point i personally moved away from the area for IC reasons. 

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My video evidence is being uploaded as we speak. I will edit this post when it finishes. here:

 

Looking back at it I realize there is a discrepancy in my PoV. There were 2 people in my line of sight when I shot Julia, they looked to be mountain men to me, but they were both turned away with their guns on their backs. I'm not sure how that can be considered NVFL though.

Edited by APTerminator

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My POV: As mentioned by thte others, we went to GM to confront the supposed people there. We split up into two teams, I am with Grim, and Apterminator with godofinternetlag are together. They decide to go round back while me and Grim crawl up to the front to see what's going on but some men come up behind us and spot us but I manage to stand up and wave at them. They then approach me and ask me why I'm there, I tell them I'm here to trade, preferably for ammunition. After this I am confronted and asked questions by a man. They ask me my name and about my past. I tell them I was a marine, and they ask me my MOS which I obviously didn't know because I didn't expect people would try to ask me questions that I obviously wouldn't know. After they decide I'm lying, a girl behind me, who was Empress Julia, initiated on me by telling me to put my hands up. I comply and I'm marched off into a cell. Where I stay for a bit until I hear gunshots. This was the little fight APTerminator had before dying. Afterwards, their leader takes me out of my cell and puts a bag (I could still see everything though) over my head, he then brings me to a barracks and starts questioning me. He asked for identification, and my character didn't have anything. He says he doesn't believe my name is Gyth and said my name is Fuckface from now on, and then I proceed to tell him I'm not a marine after realizing he wasn't going to be content with that answer. He decides to strip me naked after this (Which is ACTUAL BadRP btw), and sent me going from person to person, telling them "My name is Gyth Brettson, and I lied about being a Marine." After I'm done I go back to him in the Admin building, and I notice that Grim is still there. They ask me questions and since our stories about us just meeting match up they let him go. Once he left, they decide to interrogate me about my past, and I make up everything from there. I said I was a tourist that was just visiting in one of the cities with my girlfriend. They then interview me about my politic standing and I tell them I couldn't care less because my character wasn't ever interested in politics. They seemed offended by this and they prop me against a wall and set a firing squad against me. I crouch down and they fire over my head, and they bring me to a "political reeducation" camp where I am forced to farm pantsless (again still BadRP), until they decide I've earned my freedom. After I get a plot done they come over and start asking more questions, this time about AP's attack. And while they are godofinternetlag comes up and kills them both. And I run off.

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@Svenne @Couch112 and I went to green mountain just to talk about a future meeting with the CDF, after our talk we went outside and a group of people showed up (dont know who was all there) but we started talking and @coughman says he was a retired marine. So we started asking him questions about his service and what his MOS was and where he did his boot. He didnt know anything about his own service since he couldnt answer basic questions. So in turn we all took that as stolen valor. The CDF took the situation from there while we waited for them to do done so we could talk some more about meeting and such

Here is the video evidence i have- Part 1 Just a side note we do talk some in teamspeak some but its just some banter and fooling around i apolgize in advance

 Part 2

 

Edited by ProXThug
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On 4/27/2018 at 5:48 PM, coughman said:

I tell them I was a marine, and they ask me my MOS which I obviously didn't know because I didn't expect people would try to ask me questions that I obviously wouldn't know.

Let me be as clear as possible. If you're going to RP out a character, you need to research what it means to be that character. As per your character page bio, your character is actually a marine. I don't understand why you obviously wouldn't know. It seems like you put zero effort into making this character back story. 

On 4/26/2018 at 7:09 PM, GodOfInternetLag said:

AP talks with her for awhile

~40 seconds of RP on me just spawning in from crash and from the time I speak till the time AP fires on me in front of a compound with around 16 people. AP then proceeds to initiate on the entire compound with only two people on the outside. 2v16 doesn't sound like good odds to me. 

Later you end up coming back to the compound and ruleplay Sylva and Clarence. Yes you had kill rights, but just because you had them doesn't mean you need to use them. By using them, you ruined the potential for a role play solution to the issue. You could have reinitiated on Sylva and Clarence and flipped the tides, but instead you used your KOS rights, robbing everyone involved of a good RP scenario. 

At the time I wasn't aware of the initiation, and what GoIL did hadn't happened yet, so the attempted KOS on mountain men can be stricken from the accusations.

My accusation of badRP on Coughman's part stands, as well as NVFL on those involved in the initiation on the compound. Lastly, I'd like to have ruleplay be investigated on the part of GodofInternetLag

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Lastly, there are POVs missing from members of Kamenici that were present.

Edited by Empress Julia

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3 minutes ago, Empress Julia said:

~40 seconds of RP on me just spawning in from the time I speak till the time AP fires on me in front of a compound with around 16 people. AP then proceeds to initiate on the entire compound with only two people on the outside. 2v16 doesn't sound like good odds to me. 

From our information at the time, we believed your numbers to be 10 at most, provided by information from Grim. With yourself out of the way, it would 3v9, with a man(Grim) inside the compound, and I've faced worse odds and lived. Again, as I said, I thought you were just popping into existence due to how bad my laptop is. 

12 minutes ago, Empress Julia said:

My accusation of badRP on Coughman's part stands, as well as NVFL on those involved in the initiation on the compound. Lastly, I'd like to have ruleplay be investigated on the part of GodofInternetLag

If that is the case then I believe that some members of Svoboda should be convicted of badrp for forcing coughman to walk around naked for about a half hour.

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21:58:20 | Chat("Stepan Cernik"): //PUTTING THIS ON SO YOU DONT DIE, RP YOUR NAKED

 

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At around 2:30 in your video, you start talking in TS to relay IC info and yet there was no double mic. Why? Also how did you recieve information from Grim on the amount of people in the compound if you don't hear anything from Grim IG in ProXThug's videos as it pertains to the amount of people inside the compound?

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I would like to point out that the nakedness was integral to to the lesson we were trying to teach him. Nakedness is a form of blind trust, of hiding nothing. For me, him being naked is a symbolism for “I no longer have anything to hide.” 

This is important because his character was convicted of lying about his identity, and more specifically, his uniform. Stripping him of what he falsely identified himself as (a marine) was integral to the lesson we were attempting to teach. It’s sort of like Confession in the Catholic Church. The first step to being forgiven and becoming a better person is admitting to the crime, and laying your sins out in a way that you hide nothing.

Granted, I’ve never been naked in a confessional. Thank God.

It was decided early on that these two that we captured weren’t serious criminals, but dumbass kids, especially the one pretending to be a marine. We resolved that instead of an execution, we would educate him on what he did wrong. The first part of that was admitting his crime. Through public embarrassment, we resolved that if it was awkward enough he wouldn’t lie about it again. 

The next part was to teach the man a work ethic. So we took him down to the work camp, and I told him that the more plants he grew, he would earn his clothing back. This is what we do with all political prisoners. The idea is that the clothing he wears becomes an identity of sorts, and more specifically, an identity which we rebuild from nakedness. All of it is a big metaphor that a lot of prisoners that we’ve captured have really appreciated. 

Camp Redemption isn’t just some work camp where you beat rocks together. I sat for hours looking at psychology expirements to create a fully immersive (and hopefully productive) experience. We usually ask the prisoners OOCly if they mind staying at the prison after that particular RP session so that we can continue the role play. Some agree, and some RP that they escaped in the night. Whatever. 

Either way, the TLDR here is that nakedness and his work at Camp Redemption isn’t just mindless on-the-spot hostile roleplay, but a well thought out and immersive RP experience. I’m sorry that he didn’t see the bigger picture, but perhaps if Clarence and I hadn’t been RDMd twenty minutes into the RP, he might have.

Edited by Sylva

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First of all in response to the NVFL while we were outnumbered we had the advantage, you were all inside a compound with only one entrance whilst we were outside covering said entrance, If it was NVFL how did i not die considering i was nearly right next to AP? AP only died because he overpeeked, i mean he lived 90 seconds after the shit went down so i wouldnt call any of that NVFL.

And yeah, i would've liked to have RP'ed it out with the two guys i killed in the summer camp, but unfortunately i wasn't there for them, i was trying to save my mate from a group of people who were making him work naked with a compound of 12+ reinforcements not 300m away, i didn't kill them just to kill them, i killed them because it was my best option of getting my mate out alive.

 

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13 hours ago, Empress Julia said:

At around 2:30 in your video, you start talking in TS to relay IC info and yet there was no double mic. Why? Also how did you recieve information from Grim on the amount of people in the compound if you don't hear anything from Grim IG in ProXThug's videos as it pertains to the amount of people inside the compound?

I'm not gonna lie the situation was hectic on our end, and at that point I screwed up, I was more focused on trying to rescue Gyth. Ask anyone around I'm very into using in character, but my bad, I screwed up at this point. As for the information Grim provided us, it was long before he entered the compound, before the video started.

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On 29/04/2018 at 1:47 AM, Empress Julia said:

Lastly, there are POVs missing from members of Kamenici that were present.

Do you know the names of said individuals, as well as the role they played in the situation?

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22 minutes ago, Harvey said:

Do you know the names of said individuals, as well as the role they played in the situation?

I'm unsure. I believe brodie was there. He might be able to tell you more. Their roll was with the hostage mostly as well as being part of the mass of people inside the compound that was initiated on.

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My experience with the situation is very limited due to being killed without much RP. My knowlege of what happens afterward has been gleemed from POVs and OOC conversations with those involved with everything else. Kamenici members might be able to add more insite. 

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Calling in @Brodie to provide a POV and detail the involvement of the group 'Kamenici' and its members so we can tell if they are relevant to the situation.

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@Empress Julia, are you reporting them for the kill on you, or the kills on the other people in the compound? Also, why are you reporting the @coughman for BadRP? He complied to the situation and you haven't exactly been clear as to what from his RP was bad in your opinion. Is it purely because he didn't put as much detail into his character as you'd like?

also @APTerminator, at the time of you initiating, how many people did you think was inside the compound?

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7 minutes ago, Para said:

@Empress Julia, are you reporting them for the kill on you, or the kills on the other people in the compound?

also @APTerminator, at the time of you initiating, how many people did you think was inside the compound?

As stated, after killing Julia, it was our belief that there were 9 people in GM. It'd be 3(Myself, GodofInternetLag, Grim)v9, with Grim inside.

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Another question,

@GodOfInternetLag you returned later to kill them again, did they still have your friend hostage at the time of you returning and killing them?

@Sylva you seemed like your party had talked things out with the new society, is that correct? (By saying yes the presumption is you're fine with not pushing for any potential rulebreaks).

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Yes they still had Gyth hostage, i noticed it by chance when they were taking him to the camp and decided to suss it out, waited for the opportune moment and killed the two guards and ran off with Gyth before the reinforcements came from the compound.

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@Brodie will be temporarily banned until he posts his poV and answers @Harvey's question.

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If you don't believe that someone not having researched their MOS to not be bad RP then I'll drop the accusation. If anything, I wanted to point out the need to research a character before playing them.

Now my point about the NVFL was on the initiation on the entire compound. While the kill on me certainly was risky, they could have easily gotten away. What could have been done as well, while very risky, is to either try and bait my character to leave further from the compound and try and grab me... and possibly leading to more RP.

If it's not my place to really discuss the initiation afterward being NVFL, then I'll put my boot in my mouth.

 

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