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Was just robbed by 3 guys from the HDF, they killed both my friends before I came to my senses and dropped my weapon.

I was complying, and everything seemed fine, until their doctor apparently told me I was infected and checked for blood samples.

They deemed me to be infected and told me they would have to kill me to stop it spreading. I wasn't actually infected, although my friend was. Is this following the rules?

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Guest WaltteriH   
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As long it is heavily RP based and perfect RP reason, then yes.

Example:

Atleast with ~9 months of experience, i'd say it is still allowed.

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If dem crackas tell you yo blood's infected den you BETTA get strapped n cap dem mofo's.

But yes, I think it's allowed.

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Pickles    0

Couldn't anyone just use this as an excuse to execute anyone in any situation?

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Osaka    15

I don't think you can "RP" your victim is infected and then kill him.

Otherwise every bandit "doctor" can do the same 20 times a day and kill every single person they meet, who complies, but seems to be "infected".

If that becomes a fad, nobody will comply anymore.

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Guest WaltteriH   
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Everything has to have limits. Good RP, unless overused.

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I don't think you can "RP" your victim is infected and then kill him.

Otherwise every bandit "doctor" can do the same 20 times a day and kill every single person they meet, who complies, but seems to be "infected".

If that becomes a fad, nobody will comply anymore.

This answers it:

Everything has to have limits. Good RP, unless overused.

I would say it's allowed in this case. Yes, it COULD be overused. But it goes without saying that you shouldn't overuse it.

Same goes for RP executions. They are allowed if you have a good reason, but just don't overuse it.

In this case, it sounded like fun roleplay. Let me ask you, Blowfish, did you have fun?

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I don't think you can "RP" your victim is infected and then kill him.

Otherwise every bandit "doctor" can do the same 20 times a day and kill every single person they meet, who complies, but seems to be "infected".

If that becomes a fad, nobody will comply anymore.

This answers it:

Everything has to have limits. Good RP, unless overused.

I would say it's allowed in this case. Yes, it COULD be overused. But it goes without saying that you shouldn't overuse it.

Same goes for RP executions. They are allowed if you have a good reason, but just don't overuse it.

In this case, it sounded like fun roleplay. Let me ask you, Blowfish, did you have fun?

Honestly yes, until I realised I lost a lot of stuff... But thats the risk you take I guess haha.

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Tomeran    3

This is both okay and not okay.

It relies on a series of factors really, which makes situations like these complicated.

First of all, if it was a quick: "Oh, im sorry. You're infected and thus we have to shoot you."-line then it was NOT okay, as then its painfully obvious the bandits are just using it to shoot you. In such a case, the roleplay itself is obviously not the goal.

This differs from other cases of execution. Lets take S-GRU for example. And dont worry S-GRU people happening to read this thread, im about to give a positive example of your roleplay. Yes really, im not joking, you can put down your molotovs.

S-GRU takes someone captive. They then escort this person to a secure location, and plenty of interaction is offered on the way and during the capture itself.

The captive is then ransomed. In some cases the captive might even be able to bargain their way out of captivity, but in the cases where he is not, the captive is reliant on the good-will of either strangers or his friends.

If someone tries to liberate the hostages or fail to pay within a reasonable amount of time, the hostage is executed.

THAT is an example of a properly roleplayed execution.

IMO, it needs to be that extensive to properly warrant the kill of someone that has heeded bandit demands.

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Guest Alfie   
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It's probably because I didn't give you magic luck, sorry.

But in all seriousness it seems pretty cool that way of execution but I wouldn't be too happy to comply then to be told I'm infected and that they have to kill me, haha ;D! Aren't HDF friendly? Besides it does stand for "Human defence force".

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Robbin    0

And dont worry S-GRU people happening to read this thread, im about to give a positive example of your roleplay. Yes really, im not joking, you can put down your molotovs.

*Desperately attempts to get rid of a lit molotov*

OT: It's pushing the boundaries in my opinion. If someone around happened to be coughing or whatever, it may be a good reason. Otherwise, it can be misused very easily.

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It depends on how it's roleplayed as a victim, too.

The issue is that a "doctor" taking blood and saying you're infected borders dangerously close to forcing RP on others. Another character cannot tell you that your character has a certain disease, necessarily, unless there was an OOC agreement beforehand.

For example, I have already deemed that Lucia, like many other survivors, is actually immune to the infection, as the virus is not able to infect everyone it comes into contact with. A "doctor" using that as a RP excuse wouldn't work with me as the virus cannot survive in my character's body.

So, it's a matter of OOC consent in most cases.

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It depends on how it's roleplayed as a victim, too.

The issue is that a "doctor" taking blood and saying you're infected borders dangerously close to forcing RP on others. Another character cannot tell you that your character has a certain disease, necessarily, unless there was an OOC agreement beforehand.

For example, I have already deemed that Lucia, like many other survivors, is actually immune to the infection, as the virus is not able to infect everyone it comes into contact with. A "doctor" using that as a RP excuse wouldn't work with me as the virus cannot survive in my character's body.

So, it's a matter of OOC consent in most cases.

Very true. That's why I asked the OP if he enjoyed the experience. And he said he did. :D

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G Love11    0

One way people can be able to decide if you're infected could be if you are indeed coughing. Then again, this infection could be something as serious as "zombification" or a small cold.

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One way people can be able to decide if you're infected could be if you are indeed coughing. Then again, this infection could be something as serious as "zombification" or a small cold.

That's a bacterial infection that players occasionally get, though, not the zombie virus, and certainly not a reason to shoot someone.

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Tomeran    3

One way people can be able to decide if you're infected could be if you are indeed coughing. Then again, this infection could be something as serious as "zombification" or a small cold.

That's a bacterial infection that players occasionally get, though, not the zombie virus, and certainly not a reason to shoot someone.

Unless they're afraid of germs, or really touchy about manners. "HE SNEEZED/COUGHED IN MY GENERAL DIRECTION!" *empties clip*

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Powdermen    0

One way people can be able to decide if you're infected could be if you are indeed coughing. Then again, this infection could be something as serious as "zombification" or a small cold.

That's a bacterial infection that players occasionally get, though, not the zombie virus, and certainly not a reason to shoot someone.

Unless they're afraid of germs, or really touchy about manners. "HE SNEEZED/COUGHED IN MY GENERAL DIRECTION!" *empties clip*

Wait, that's not allowed? Wups...

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JakeGriffin    0

I'm just going to say they were acing like bandits because I confronted one of them who was hiding in a bush telling him to come out as we were friendly. He shouted for me to get down and drop my weapons, I instinctively wanted to protect my group so I tried to shoot him. Needless to say me and the other guy we had with us were shot dead and Blowfish was "tested" and said to be infected, which he wasn't.

First of all, I'm fairly sure these guys were forcing RP and secondly, as a "Human Defence Force" why would they be snooping around bushes and seemingly robbing friendly players?

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Gina    26

First of all, I'm fairly sure these guys were forcing RP and secondly, as a "Human Defence Force" why would they be snooping around bushes and seemingly robbing friendly players?

Because most of the players just cannot play DayZ without being mean to each others or killing people :)

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One way people can be able to decide if you're infected could be if you are indeed coughing. Then again, this infection could be something as serious as "zombification" or a small cold.

That's a bacterial infection that players occasionally get, though, not the zombie virus, and certainly not a reason to shoot someone.

Actually, it could make sense in an RP manner. If they hear coughing they might not know how the infection spreads or starts.

In regards to the original topic of if they can kill you after 'testing you'. I personally don't see why they would have testers that can trace the infection. Especially considering they are not a medical or research group.

Just sounds like they tried to find a reason to kill you. It's a toughie and I would argue that they just copied an idea from somewhere .

Did it leave a bad impression mate?

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Curoar    0

Thats powergaming, he forced his roleplay actions upon you unwillingly to make it a valid kill. But it's not.

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JakeGriffin    0

One way people can be able to decide if you're infected could be if you are indeed coughing. Then again, this infection could be something as serious as "zombification" or a small cold.

That's a bacterial infection that players occasionally get, though, not the zombie virus, and certainly not a reason to shoot someone.

Actually, it could make sense in an RP manner. If they hear coughing they might not know how the infection spreads or starts.

In regards to the original topic of if they can kill you after 'testing you'. I personally don't see why they would have testers that can trace the infection. Especially considering they are not a medical or research group.

Just sounds like they tried to find a reason to kill you. It's a toughie and I would argue that they just copied an idea from somewhere .

Did it leave a bad impression mate?

I can speak on behalf on both of us and say it did. We lost some good gear because of these wannabe bandits and their forceful ways.

Thats powergaming, he forced his roleplay actions upon you unwillingly to make it a valid kill. But it's not.

Exactly.

// Also note that I was the only person infected, but they didn't "test" me or hear me coughing, because I didn't during this altercation.

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Nikolai B.    0

Powergaming, clear cut.

The only way this scenario is legit is if you agreed OOC that your character is indeed "infected" or should be terminated.

They can't just decide things for your character.

Also attributing to yourself a capability to run blood samples in the field can be considered godmoding.

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Powergaming, clear cut.

The only way this scenario is legit is if you agreed OOC that your character is indeed "infected" or should be terminated.

They can't just decide things for your character.

Also attributing to yourself a capability to run blood samples in the field can be considered godmoding.

Nikolai has it.

In that scenario they really have to clear it with you first.

Edit:

We did it as part of an event but never led to anyone's 'death'. Besides we were researchers on the mission to test people. The average player? I doubt that.

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