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Shazzzam

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Good day to everyone. So my question is more for the admins or GM's, the staff in general. Here it goes:

If I wanted to make a let's say National Socialist group, or also known as the more popular term, Nazi group. But without the anti-semitism in any form, just strict military dictatorship, goals for domination, territorial expansions, all-out wars with people who oppose our cause (new war rule), propaganda broadcasts of our ideology etc. National Socialism has been massively seen in Nazi Germany during WW2, but it's highly possible for such a political movement/regime to exist without any racism or anti-semitism. Seeing that there is Anarchy, who say that anarchy is something good, which in fact is something very very bad, something a nation tries to avoid and puts down with a line of cops with riot gear, tear-gas, smoke and even brutal fights. Seeing that there is also those Socialists, which are one step-away form going far-left into absolute totalitarian regime. So if I make a National Socialist group, will it be allowed?

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I’m going to be honest buddy you’ll have to ask the Big man @Rolle as he will ultimately have his say in groups like these but I’m sure plenty of other staff and community members will give there own opinion in coming hours  I’ve seen similar ideas being aloud in game but failing badly then on the other side I’ve seen ideas that the main Goal is to cause all out war just get shut down due to the lack of RP it’s very hard to pull theses type of things off and I’ve seen it go both ways hope this helps :)

edit : I just seen you wanted staff to answer sorry it’s 8am need my morning coffee haha 

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Give it a try, I can't deny something that I haven't seen. :D Nationalist groups are as you can see not explicitly disallowed, so form the idea and see how it goes. You're right that we do not allow nazis, like the actual running around chasing foreigners, sieg heil, heil hitler, concentration camps etc. If yours doesn't include that and isn't trolly I don't see why it wouldn't work as long as you adhere to the new hostility rules and not initiate on everything that moves because "we're nationalists".

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Well thanks for the fair answer as always. But I don't mean to drag Hitler in this, hell no. I won't chase anyone, I'd rather make a town ours and only ours, expand and eventually have people who run through our territory explain who they are and what they are doing, and if they are an enemy or people who we don't agree to co-exist with, we will deny passage (hostile RP, fear in travelling here and there, no more sugarcoating). My plans are also capturing the power grid at Zelenogorsk, putting power back up, capturing Green Mountain for propaganda broadcasts (decent radio RP), diplomatic relations with other groups and also if I manage to pull in a few people who role play as doctors/researches/bio-chemists I want to make a secret compound with biological research on the infected. This will role play out as dragging a single infected inside a room and monitoring for activities etc, using certain weapons against him and so on. I think it is a very unique RP that no one has conducted so far, to test infected NPCs and role play with them besides killing them. And lastly I would like to start research and production on a "wonder weapon". (again radio RP) something that will inspire fear into our adversaries and leave a mark on the Lore.

Which of the above do you approve/NOT approve?

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i know you asked for staff to reply, but i think a group like this would be really cool, provided nazis are left all the way out of the equation, like there's no sense of racism involved at all

 

if done well, and by well i mean extremely carefully , this would be really cool

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I think all of it sounds reasonable. Good luck! 

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Awesome thanks for the quick reply! I just have this inner fear that no one would join it T_T

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The real question for me rn is, will there be any laws or guidelines on race? If so where are the jews in that hirarchy?

Maybe consider making it fascist instead, you'll have a lot less triggered people if you do that. :D

 

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You are very mistaken, National Socialism is a militaristic ideology. Anti-semitism is absolutely another thing. National Socialism existed before Hitler, but it was not so widespread. Jews have nothing to do with NS, neither has anti-semitism. Hitler only chose to direct his hate towards the jews because the jews controlled a lot of Germany's finances and having a reason to strip them off of their riches and throw them at the rest of the germans seemed like a good excuse. He also had a deep hate for them as many people who brought up the communism regime were jewish as well. To top that off, he fought as a Gefreiter (Corporal) in WW1 and it was because the jewish aristocrats back then did not support the german war effort and Germany started losing the war. But we are getting too deep in history and theories, National Socialism never started with jewish hate or anti-semitism. 

Personally, I won't include any race hate or other hate in the group. Hate will be directed only towards people or groups who have done something very bad. But even then we won't insult them on race or something similar.

Fascism is also not the same as National Socialism. Benitto Mussollini's Italy during world war 2 was fascist. Germany was National Socialist. There is a distinct difference in both parties.

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Thing with making national socialist, fascist and nationalist groups here is that you have to extremly careful and choose who do you let in your groups. People here are one minded and tend to praise communism and all the other garbage. If you want any help with political side of things feel free to PM me. I used to have very fascist world view.

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For the first statment I'd like to see some sources if you have spare time, you can PM me those since we would just clutter this thread with unrelated stuff. I don't know of any noteworthy national socialst ideology's pre WW1 and as far as I know Antisemitism is one of the main pillars of this ideology. I don't know if you read Mein Kampf, but that is pretty much the concept of National Socialism for you.

I know that Fascism and National Socialsm aren't the same, that's why I recommended you'd switch to that. Before Hitler pretty much forced him Mussolini had barely any problems with the jews, might be a bit better for you since from what I gathered this is what you are going for anyway.

Anyway good luck with the group, let's hope you won't get banned for it since that happend in the past.

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I want to make a group that will settle down in a town and then expand slowly while accepting more and more people in it's borders. I would allow a merchant station in our main town and so on. The main thing I want about this group is technological advancement. One of my goals, which I think would be a very unique goal and thing to do, would be:

Have our engineers enhance weapons with modifications for our group so we can have an edge in battle. [ Ofc you can't do that, the game mechanics won't allow it and all weapons will always stay the same, but this will be role played as for example we have modified the SKS with different parts, barrels, mechanisms in fashion for our group, paint it black and re-name it Gewehr G88 for example]. In time we will sell licenses to other groups and engineer and give them the schematics to produce them on their own.

I would also like to make a role play scenario where we do biological research and experiments on caught infected and perhaps even hostages who have done extremely bad things to us and we think they would be fit for any torture. Eye for an eye so to say. It can be done while using bottles and syringes for role playing it out.

Third thing would be hostile raids. I want to make a role play for the whole group as stealth RP/Infiltration RP while we snatch some supplies for the cause of our group. Stealing so to say, but not griefing at all. This gives possibilities to either stealth hostile role play for us, or a heated battle and maybe some other engagement if we are caught. The latter will also give good RP towards the victims.

Eventually if I make the group at all and it expands to 10 or more people, I will make two squads and storm a town occupied by large groups which we had hostilities with. I would go as far to make a war officially, which has not been done now. 

I have very big and unique ideas of role play for this group. 

And let's not forget, the military will range from the standard Soldat and uniform for all, to a juggernaut-type of soldier who will be equipped with a coupled stanag rifle, or a drum mag rifle and the heaviest armor we could find. I won't have idiots running around with beanies and crap.

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