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3/22/18 ~22:50; 10 second Robbery /Invalid Car initiation, The socialists in Vishnoye

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Server and location: S1 Vishnoye

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME):  22:50 ish

Your in game name: Tracy Ashlyn

Names of allies involved: None

Name of suspect/s: @TheRedOne plus a friend

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): 4 door sedan

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): N/A

Detailed description of the events:  Sorry to bring in a new report as you guys just cleared up all the old ones... but alas...  oh well.

Myself and a random firefighter started a taxi service to ferry people from Lopatino to Novy. We pick up two fellers and they say

"Hey where did you find the vehicle? .. Can we have it? We're looking for Quinn"

I tell them they should ask the anarchy fellers as it isn't just my car to give away. They then ask me to drive them to Vishnoye, it's not far outta the way so I say sure np. I take them to Vish, and he tells me to stop by this house. He goes into the house, and  he invalid initiates on the car with a VOIP only initiation. I ain't a cuck (usually) so I follow the RP instead of using the rules as armor.. and comply with the demand of "Get out of the car or I will shoot".

Me, the fireman, and the 4th passenger exit the car. He says "I am really sorry, but I am taking this car." He tells me to drop my radio, and he makes sure the fireman and I are disarmed, and then he gets in the car, and drives off. Only to drive back and pick up the 4th passenger yelling "Get in quick quick quick! "

The 4th passenger gets in.. so I am only to assume.. he was in on it. Anyway, the robbery lasted at best 30-45 seconds.. so yeah.. was kind of sad face.

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My POV:

So me and @Tompa spend the past couple of hours driving around the map in search of Quinn. ( @Lady In Blue) We sadly eventually crashed our car and went to Lopatino on foot where I met Quinn's IC brother Louie. I asked him if he knew where his sister to which he responded that it is none of my business and I should stay away from her. I told him I didn't want to cause any trouble and he asked my name. To which I replied with my full name. My character however was pretty pissed off due to the way Louie responded to his question and the bashing between Anarchy and the Socialists in general. We eventually came across two people in a Sedan which offered us a ride, I asked them if I could buy or lend their vehicle because I was still searching for Quinn. They then told me that the vehicle was owned by the Anarchists and that I should speak to them, I then asked them to pull over because I wanted to check the building. I decided to initiate on them since they are our known enemies and it would be a way to teach them some sort of lesson. I was also in need of a vehicle which @Tompa can confirm since we we're talking about it IC'ly. 

 

I understand the mistake I made by not writing out the initiation even though they were in a vehicle. However the engine was turned off and it was in the heat of the moment, this was my first initiation and I didn't want to break any rules. However I do not agree with the 10 second robbery thing because they left me no choice. The group of Anarchy members were in Novy which is only a 2 minute run to Vishnoye. When I pointed my gun at them and asked them to step out one of them decided to talk on the radio whilst I had him at gunpoint which is pretty non-RP if you ask me. So that is the reason why I had to rush the robbery, I would most likely have been killed otherwise.

 

Once again my excuses for not writing the initiation out. I simply forgot in the heat of the moment.

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Hello, I just wanted to say that I was not informed in character that the robbery was gonna take place. I did not initiate or say anything I simply kept my hands up. I was not part of the robbery. @TheRedOne can confirm that I was not part of this.

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17 minutes ago, Tompa said:

Hello, I just wanted to say that I was not informed in character that the robbery was gonna take place. I did not initiate or say anything I simply kept my hands up. I was not part of the robbery. @TheRedOne can confirm that I was not part of this.

If you were involved in the situation, you are still required to post you full and detailed PoV on the situation. Please do so as soon as possible. 

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Connection logs:

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18:33:16 | Player "Redwan Troost" is connected
23:42:04 | Player "Redwan Troost" has been disconnected

22:17:53 | Player "Tracy Ashlyn" is connected
23:08:41 | Player "Tracy Ashlyn" has been disconnected

20:50:17 | Player "Glenn Wickstrom" is connected
-Server restart.

Hit logs:

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N/A

Kill Logs:

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N/A

Chat Logs:

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19:35:22 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // u can switch to vehicle chat by pressing . btw
20:01:07 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // most likely gonna hang out with friends
20:01:47 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // thing still says raw lmao
20:12:32 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // Brb gotta take a piss
20:13:48 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // back
20:19:26 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // gonna turn on the heater and grab a cig
20:21:07 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // test
20:31:19 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // FUCKING FPS
20:31:37 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // I was getting 1 fps
20:42:53 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // sec gotta grab something real quick if ya'all dont mind
20:44:57 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // ffs still forgot something
20:49:02 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): / GAame froze
20:52:36 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // Switch to vehicle chat cant hear ya
20:59:44 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // .
22:31:43 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // sec
22:32:36 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // 1 SEC
22:32:39 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // gotta do something on t
22:32:40 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // ts
22:34:59 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // SEC Talking on ts
22:43:19 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): *spits on the grave.*
22:48:03 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // been awake since yesterday afternoon rip
23:28:18 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // u poked me an empty message?
23:28:18 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // u poked me an empty message?
23:31:36 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // this game man
23:31:47 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // try relogging or something
23:34:03 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // talk in veh
23:34:06 | Chat("Redwan Troost"): // press .

@Tompa and @TheRedOne could you also tell us all of your allies in this situation please. Thank you.

Logs will be updates as more allies / involved people are brought in.

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@Para

 

I met @Tompa earlier today IC'ly, he has been helping me trying to get a hold of Quinn since then. I never informed him that I was about to initiate on them, because it was a last minute decision and it was impossible for me to inform him without them noticing. He was the only person involved, but was not involved in the initiation itself.

Edited by TheRedOne

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3 minutes ago, TheRedOne said:

@Para

 

I met @Tompa earlier today IC'ly, he has been helping me trying to get a hold of Quinn since then. I never informed him that I was about to initiate on them, because it was a last minute decision and it was impossible for me to inform him without them noticing. He was the only person involved, but was not involved in the initiation itself.

While we appreciate this, we need -him- to personally post his own Point of View. You may not post on his behalf.

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My pov:

Me and @TheRedOne just as he has stated have been going around looking for a women named Quinn. The story isn't much diffrent upp until the robbery itself other than that I don't know any of these groups and did not take offence to what Quinns brother Louise said. I'm not part of any of these groups. We bumped in to some taxi service south of Stary sobor and we asked if we could get a ride to Vyshone becuase me and @TheRedOne was looking for a vehicle after we lost one in Pusthoska. The people which drove the taxi accepted and drove us to Vyshone. When we arrived to Vyshone we found no vehicle so we decided to turn around and drive to Novy becuase the owner of the taxi was the Anarachists. North of the town by a small little house @TheRedOne asked the driver if he could stop just so he could check out a house. @TheRedOne after around 20 sec in the house came runing out telling everyone to put there hands up. I complied to his demands just like everyone else. After some interactions @TheRedOne took the car and started driving away but turned around to pick me up which my charachter didn't like. I jumped in the car at first but after around 200 meters I asked him to please drop me off which he did. When I was dropped of the first thing I did was run back towards the city. I meet a group off around 4-5 people which from what I understand was Anarchists. I told them the direction the car was heading and then ran to the scene of the crime were I meet Kenneth @Niccokick and Santa @JakeTM. After I meet these people I ran towards Novy Sobor. 

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7 minutes ago, Chewy said:

While we appreciate this, we need -him- to personally post his own Point of View. You may not post on his behalf.

Oh okay I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to post his POV I just wanted to mention that there were no allies present during the initiation. I did it completely by myself so if I get punished for breaking any rules I should be the only one. He had nothing to do with this.

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Looks like TheRedOne is a new whitelist. If you find any rule breaks here, can you list it for us and close the report? No point in getting new folks done in for stuff.

Edited by JoffreyRP
It sounded a tad arrogant. Still kinda does.. ah well what can you do?

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Sorry I forgot to mention it. When @TheRedOne held everyone up one guy started speaking on the radio telling everyone that he was getting held up and the exact location when he had a gun pointed at him. I think this is one of the main reasons why the robbery was so short. @TheRedOne did not say that the person wasn't allowed to go on the radio but at the same time I feel like that is just logic. 

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Though we are fine to go with @JoffreyRP's wishes, we will not be doing so without issuing a verbal warning to @TheRedOne for both atrocious amount of unnecessary OOC displayed in the text logs and for what was an invalid initiation. TheRedOne I refer you to the following rule:

  • 5.4 OOC communication can be done only through text chat and only when absolutely necessary. You may not use OOC chat to casually chat with other players in game. You may not speak OOC using ingame voice. Use the "//" prefix to indicate OOC text communication.

OOC is supposed to be used only in cases of necessity, not to explain that you need to go for a cig or express your dislike for your FPS situation. These kinds of logs are very immersion breaking, and had @JoffreyRP continued with the report you'd have been punished accordingly. In future please cut the OOC out of your in game activity.

The other thing we wish to address is that when initiating on a vehicle you are always required to use a text initiation to avoid any unclear initiations. Even if the car is off and not moving, we still require text initiations on vehicles, largely due to the different chats that exist (vehicle chat, direct chat etc.) This is because of DayZ's vehicle systems being fairly buggy and poorly designed. I refer you to this rule:

  • 6.5 When initiating hostile action upon a vehicle you must always use text to prevent miscommunication.

And finally, we must again remind @TheRedOne of the following rule: 

6.3.1 As an attacker you may NOT:
- Attack other players just for the sake of gear by doing a quick robbery that involves little to no role play.

From the sounds of it, this robbery was fairly short. You must be careful in future, as short robberies can also lead to BadRP punishments where there is no sustenance to them. Now whilst we are not saying you are guilty, other than the verbal warning these serve as more of a reminder to be more careful in future.

With that said,

/solved.

Signed by: @Para & @Aiko.

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