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S1: BadRP, RDM, NVFL,impersonation of another group and Metagaming Novaya Petrovka 2018-03-18 16:00 - 18:00

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Server and location: S1Novaya Petrovka 

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME):  2018-03-18 16:00 - 18:00

Your in game name: Sergei Molshakova

Names of allies involved: @Spanners @Jack Rees-Mountbatten @barto300 @Wyoming @Greener161

Name of suspect/s: @Luke Dowsett @Max Stercore @Brandon Hoey

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any):  N/A

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): 

Detailed description of the events:  At around 16:00 server time a few of us heard shots around the School in Novaya. We looked around and spotted to guys with white armbands running through a field headed towards the main road. Members of the SSZAF and I cut them off and asked them to come back to the school for questioning. We talked for a bit when @Brandon Hoey said he was from northern Ireland. One of our members had been tortured by a man from northern Ireland with a white arm band so we decided to initiate on the for further questioning. I immediately told @Brandon Hoey and @Max Stercore to drop their weapons and take two steps back. I then emoted a frisk for radios asking "*Frisks for radio* //Does he find one?" Both replied yes and I took the radios and stomped on them.  @Brandon Hoey and @Max Stercore were then escorted to different rooms in the school and interrogated. after a few minutes a man arrived, I started talking to the man and he ended up joining into the Roleplay as being a jury member on the trial. Before moving the two prisoners to the church for the trial, one of my members OOC told me that the man was actually @Luke Dowsett, I pulse checked him and confirmed his identity. HOWEVER I would like it to be known we did not let this knowledge effect the roleplay @Luke Dowsett was only told to leave after he found the two prisoners to be not guilty. This scenario leads to my first allegation: Metagaming. How did @Luke Dowsett know his men were being held hostage if their radios had been removed and at no point did they double mic their location? After being told to leave @Luke Dowsett left and we proceeded with the roleplay forcing the men to do hard labor.  After about 10 minutes of RP one of our snipers spotted two men approaching from the west. I Climbed the tower and scoped in. I could tell from the kit of the man on the right that it was @Luke Dowsett (Same Hat, Similar jacket, Similar backpack, Similar vest, etc) One of our guys radioed in that it was a random and a member of black roses. I later confirmed with members of the blackroses that no members were in the area at that time.

Our guys RPed with them for a bit then headed back to the prisoners. @Luke Dowsett and the other man sat watching us for a bit then ran North/West. It was around the same time that we began warning @Max Stercore about his behavior. While only one guard was watching him, he kept creeping forward with a pickaxe and making bold comments. He was warned, Warned again and then I began firing warning shots (Like a Sherriff into the prison yard). He responded by waving at me and continuing to make bold comments. After around 6 warnings we finally gave @Max Stercore a radio to say his goodbyes and I shot him in the back. However, at no pointed did he double mic anything. I believe that this is BadRP and NVFL. About a minute or two after he was shot, @Jack Rees-Mountbatten was hit by a sniper. The shots were spotted coming from the treeline North West of the school. I could see from my SVD that it was the same two men from before including what looked like @Luke Dowsett.  We were able to kill both snipers and end the situation however I was shot trying to locate the last sniper.

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Connection Logs:

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16:43:36 | Player "Sergei Molshakova" is connected
-Server Restart-
18:00:59 | Player "Sergei Molshakova" is connected
-Died-

16:43:39 | Player "Vladlen Anisimov" is connected 
17:24:41 | Player "Vladlen Anisimov" has been disconnected
17:27:33 | Player "Vladlen Anisimov" is connected
-Server Restart-
18:54:22 | Player "Vladlen Anisimov" has been disconnected

16:45:25 | Player "Brandon Hoey" is connected
-Server Restart-
18:03:22 | Player "Brandon Hoey" is connected
-Died-

16:46:18 | Player "Max Stercore" is connected
-Server Restart-
18:03:58 | Player "Max Stercore" is connected
-Dead-

16:46:19 | Player "Luke Dowsett" is connected
-Server Restart-
18:05:25 | Player "Luke Dowsett" is connected
-Unconscious-
18:50:00 | Player "Luke Dowsett" has been disconnected

16:49:12 | Player "Artyom Pretrov" is connected
17:16:22 | Player "Artyom Pretrov" has been disconnected
17:17:39 | Player "Artyom Pretrov" is connected
17:32:22 | Player "Artyom Pretrov" has been disconnected
17:32:33 | Player "Artyom Pretrov" is connected
17:33:12 | Player "Artyom Pretrov" has been disconnected
-Server Restart-
18:03:32 | Player "Artyom Pretrov" is connected
19:42:58 | Player "Artyom Pretrov" has been disconnected

17:22:36 | Player "Pavel Popov" is connected
-Server Restart-
18:00:55 | Player "Pavel Popov" is connected
18:23:57 | Player "Pavel Popov" has been disconnected
18:45:10 | Player "Pavel Popov" is connected
-Died in seperate situation-

14:37:56 | Player "Dimitri Abakuov" is connected
17:24:41 | Player "Dimitri Abakuov" has been disconnected
-Server Restart-
 

17:28:51 | Player "Lech Popov" is connected
-Server Restart-
18:01:04 | Player "Lech Popov" is connected
-Died in seperate situation-

18:15:49 | Player "Anton Pavlov" is connected
-Died in seperate situation-

16:51:25 | Player "Oleg Zmeskal" is connected
-Server Restart-
18:00:56 | Player "Oleg Zmeskal" is connected
19:55:08 | Player "Oleg Zmeskal" has been disconnected

 

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Hit Logs:

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17:56:25 | "Sergei Molshakova HIT Max Stercore by fist into head."
17:59:22 | "Brandon Hoey HIT Max Stercore by fist into LeftLeg."
17:59:28 | "Brandon Hoey HIT Max Stercore by fist into pelvis."
18:30:07 | "Vladlen Anisimov HIT Max Stercore by BrassKnucklesDull into LeftLeg."
18:32:16 | "Brandon Hoey HIT Max Stercore by fist into head."
18:38:52 | "Sergei Molshakova SHOT Max Stercore by SVD into Chest."
18:41:42 | "Artyom Pretrov SHOT Brandon Hoey by Fal into LeftLeg."
18:41:43 | "Luke Dowsett SHOT Artyom Pretrov by M4A1_Black into Chest."
18:45:16 | "Anton Pavlov SHOT Brandon Hoey by Winchester70 into head."
18:48:26 | "Artyom Pretrov SHOT Luke Dowsett by Fal into leftleg."
18:50:21 | "Anton Pavlov SHOT Sergei Molshakova by Winchester70 into Head."
18:50:21 | "Anton Pavlov SHOT Sergei Molshakova by Winchester70 into Head."

 


Kill Logs:

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18:38:52 | Player "Max Stercore" has been killed by player "Sergei Molshakova"
18:48:32 | "Player Luke Dowsett has fallen into unconsciousness."
18:45:16 | Player "Brandon Hoey has been killed by player "Anton Pavlov"
18:50:21 | Player "Sergei Molshakova" has been killed by player "Anton Pavlov"

 

Chat Logs:

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16:54:17 | Chat("Vladlen Anisimov"): *opens copy of com man
16:57:59 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): //Frisks for ID, does he find one?
16:58:03 | Chat("Brandon Hoey"): *finds no id*
16:58:21 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): //Frisks for ANY ID, does he find one?
16:58:23 | Chat("Max Stercore"): *Finds no ID*
16:58:36 | Chat("Vladlen Anisimov"): *sits menisingly 
16:59:22 | Chat("Dimitri Abakuov"): *removes the lens covers*
16:59:46 | Chat("Dimitri Abakuov")): *points the lens towards the man and a bright flash goes off*
17:00:27 | Chat("Dimitri Abakuov")): *points the camera lens towards the man and a bright flash goes off*
17:03:26 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): //f2
17:03:26 | Chat("Dimitri Abakuov"): //f2
17:03:28 | Chat("Vladlen Anisimov"): f2
17:03:52 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): //Frisks for radios
17:03:59 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): //does he find one?
17:04:16 | Chat("Max Stercore"): //yes
17:04:24 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): *takes radio*
17:04:43 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): //Frisks for radio does he find one?
17:04:46 | Chat("Brandon Hoey"): //yes
17:05:13 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): *TAKES RADIO*
17:05:36 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): //What are the radio freq?
17:13:35 | Chat("Artyom Pretrov"): *writes down the information onto paper*
17:15:16 | Chat("Vladlen Anisimov"): //may I spray you 
17:15:24 | Chat("Brandon Hoey"): // go for it
17:16:28 | Chat("Vladlen Anisimov"): *shakes
17:16:44 | Chat("Vladlen Anisimov"): *sprays a 101 on to his chest 
17:18:54 | Chat("Vladlen Anisimov"): *makes L's with hands
17:19:15 | Chat("Vladlen Anisimov"): *goes to spray right eye then does left instead
17:20:04 | Chat("Vladlen Anisimov"): *tinckers
17:21:23 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): *PATS ON BACK*
17:21:45 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): *places tip of knife in ear drum*
17:21:52 | Chat("Vladlen Anisimov"): *hits
17:22:13 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): *twists knife*
17:21:45 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): *places tip of knife in ear drum*
17:21:52 | Chat("Vladlen Anisimov"): *hits
17:22:13 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): *twists knife*
17:22:44 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): //Be aware you have a knife shoved in your ear.
17:22:53 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): *Shoves knife deeper*
17:23:08 | Chat("Dimitri Abakuov"): //can i logg? stuff going on irl can´t keep playing
17:23:28 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): *Wipes knife off*
17:23:30 | Chat("Artyom Pretrov"): // we dont mind, u will have to ask these 2 hostages
17:23:40 | Chat("Max Stercore"): // go 4 it
17:23:42 | Chat("Dimitri Abakuov"): //hostages are you ok with me logging early?
17:33:57 | Chat("Vladlen Anisimov"): *whipes of the paint
17:37:14 | Chat("Luke Dowsett"): *Begins to clean boots
17:37:47 | Chat("Vladlen Anisimov"): *gives hand
17:40:13 | Chat("Vladlen Anisimov"): *has an A on face
17:44:10 | Chat("Luke Dowsett"): *Knods
17:48:31 | Chat("Luke Dowsett"): *begins to play with lighter
17:48:58 | Chat("Vladlen Anisimov"): *srays wall
17:49:26 | Chat("Luke Dowsett"): *flinches
17:55:15 | Chat("Luke Dowsett"): *Looks shaken from the explosion
17:55:24 | Chat("Vladlen Anisimov"): //brb
18:16:11 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): *Pulls out whip*
18:16:35 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): *CRACKS Whip*
18:16:43 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): *lashes mans back*
18:16:54 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): *lashes again*
18:17:06 | Chat("Sergei Molshakova"): *lashes*
18:18:56 | Chat("Vladlen Anisimov"): just hit exiting ones for know
18:48:19 | Chat("Pavel Popov"): //FFS

 

Calling in @Greener161, @Jack Rees-Mountbatten, @Brandon Hoey@barto300, @Wyoming, @Luke Dowsett, @StAiRcAsE, @Spanners@Max Stercore and @dimitri to post their detailed POVs and any video evidence they may have.

Due to @StAiRcAsE's activity on another report and his lack of activity on the forums, we will keep his temporary ban from this report until this report is over, and also due to the overly suspicious circumstances of his kill on @Henning and @Brandon Hoey as it may have been some form of a KOS spree. we take it none of you know him, are we correct?

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POV:

so as the police I'm switching from hostage to hostage assisting the interrogators. After many smart answers from @Max Stercore we warned him about his attitude and reminded him oocly that he should act out his pain. Shortly after this as we were already given permission to log out if need be I log out to sort something out within my personal life. I come back later, logging back in as I was already part of the current situation taking place.

after logging back in I'm told that their trial has taken place and that they are doing their hard labour. Me and another spot two men and approach them, one is wearing a black armband and claiming to be a black rose, the other is a apparent random civy, because of this we let them go on their way. Going back to the field where the prisoners are working we begin to attempt to provide RP with the men, however we are met with smart remarks and a stupid attitude, such as waving hello at our sniper after being told he would  be shot if he didn't lie down. 

Eventually after several warning and a continued lack of value for his life, we have our sniper shoot @Max Stercore after I give him a radio to distract him. Shortly after as I'm about to let the remaining hostage go, his allies begin to shoot at us, at this point I shoot the hostage as he tries to run, I then flank and shoot another one of the attacking men. Eventually the firefight comes to an end.

end of POV

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My POV.

I logged in like half an hour before server restart and was almost a kilometre away from Novaya so I didn't see everything. I heard over the radio that we were going to transport some prisoners to the church and so I went there. When I arrived the men were already almost done with the trial. The accused were senetenced to hard labor I and some other SSZAF escorted them to the school where they were given tools for labor. @Max Stercore was already starting to be a bit of a smart mouth while @Brandon Hoey tried to keep him in line. I regarded this as roleplay. When the men started their hard labor @Max Stercore started to get annoying and testing our patience, constanly smart mouthing and we had to warn him multiple times before he stopped and continue on doing something different to annoy us. When we spotted the other two men I was left alone with the two prisoners with one of the SSZAF men keeping overwatch on the school roof. Since we were spread thin I ordered the prisoners to drop their tools and sit down on the benches wich were next to the football field. However, @Max Stercore wouldn't outright listen and kept moving positions and stances, running around the benches, throwing stones towards anyone in sight and smart mouthing. I warned him mulitple times to stop it. He eventually started to stand up and crouch constantly and only stopped after I warned him that I would shoot him if he stood up one more time to wich he then sat down and kept leaning left and right and waving to other SSZAF members.

It however took a bit longer then I expected before the other SSZAF members came back as both prisoners were now just idling so after about 2 to 3 minutes we gave them back their tools and continue working. This is also where @Max Stercore started to get real close to me while holding a pickaxe. He kept tapping hit W button (probably) and crept up to me inch by inch. I had to warn him multiple times and he still didn't listen (he was about 1 to 1.5 meters away from me at this moment. It was only after the SSZAF member on overwatch fired a warning shot that he stepped back for about two meters but then slowly tried to creep up on me again. However before he got close again the other SSZAF members came back though his attitude did not change. He once again started smart mouthing to everyone even after multiple warnings and warning shots from multiple SSZAF members. Eventually we finally gave him a radio and then he got shot.

I'm not entirely sure what happened after that (sometimes things get lost in translation as a not native english speaker) but I think we were busy deciding what we should do with @Brandon Hoey as he did comply to our commands. While we were talking about our plans for him one of us got shot by a sniper. Everyone quickly disperced and a fight broke out.

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@barto300 and @Wyoming , thank you for your POVs. 

Can you answer the question I asked before about @StAiRcAsE , do you know him? Has he affiliated himself with you in any way or even involved with the situation which led to the firefight?

Just trying to get a clearer image, to us it seems he had no connection to your group or the others.

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2 minutes ago, Hebi Kotei said:

@barto300 and @Wyoming , thank you for your POVs. 

Can you answer the question I asked before about @StAiRcAsE , do you know him? Has he affiliated himself with you in any way or even involved with the situation which led to the firefight?

Just trying to get a clearer image, to us it seems he had no connection to your group or the others.

I do not know the man. I had a look at his profile last night while browsing the forums but that's all I know.

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22 minutes ago, barto300 said:

I do not know the man. I had a look at his profile last night while browsing the forums but that's all I know.

Okay, thank you for this response, don't worry about answering @Wyoming unless you have any additional information (or something different). Still would like @Brandon Hoey to respond to the question to see if the opposition has any affiliation with them in this situation.

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My POV: Most of my roleplay during the hostage situation was simply patrolling about making sure nothing fishy was going on. I was rarely in direct contact with the hostages but I did hear over the radio that one of the hostages was constantly being cheeky and not shutting up when told to. 

Moving on till the point when the hostage was shot due to not listening to us we were engaged by people from the north. 

Thats pretty much all I have on the situation.

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Guest Brandon Hoey

My Pov: Me and max had just logged on the server (we logged off at the edge of novo) and were about to run to meet Luke who was on the other side of Novo. After we both logged on we ran out of a house onto the main road when a few guys starting running towards us, at this point we seen the red arm bands and knew we had beef with them so we quickly said to luke on radio if we go radio silent its because we were taken by the red armbands and we gave him our location. The red armbands then took us to the school building (We all know this is their HQ) where they have tents set up, there they asked us some questions and they found out i was Northern Irish. They then decided to make me and Max make some farm plots. They shot Max and told me i was free to leave after they said i was free to leave they took shots and one of them said something along the lines of we have bigger issues so get out of here so i started to run but as i was leaving one of the red armbands shot me and broke my legs but before he could finish me one of the snipers hit him and i was able to roll to cover. after i got into cover i just stayed there for a while but then i got shot in the back and killed.

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40 minutes ago, Brandon Hoey said:

-snip-

 

Thank you, I got what I needed from your POV so don't worry about answering the question I asked from before.

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5 hours ago, Hebi Kotei said:

 

Can you answer the question I asked before about @StAiRcAsE , do you know him? Has he affiliated himself with you in any way or even involved with the situation which led to the firefight?

I'd like to point out that when we located the shooters position, Both @StAiRcAsE and @Luke Dowsett were firing from the same position, @Luke Dowsett then moved North along the treeline before being knocked out.

I think there is reason to believe that @StAiRcAsE and @Luke Dowsett were working together.

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My POV: I wasn't around for this situation as far as I am aware. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. :/

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I was just chilling on the roof with a flare in my hands when suddenly someone started shooting at me, first I thought it was a stray bullet from a ricochet so I force trying to see if someone was actively shooting at me or not. Over a small period of time more bullets hit the roof area in front of me and I ask in coms if someone is messing with me when everyone answer no and ask me what Im doing everyone run out and start looking around. I think kjartan is the first one to spot the two men in white armbands and informs us over radio of their locations. Me and two others run up to them and someone asks them to come with us to the school.

At this point irl stuff start happening so im not able to focus that much in game but try keeping it professional and go with the rp even if I don’t get all details. So incase some events are in the wrong order im sorry but wasn’t really paying full attention.

They bring the men into a room and ask some questions, only about what they had been doing last 10 mins and about the suspicious shots against the school. I stand outside the room to guard the corridor. After a while I get asked to take a picture of the men and then they are let out into the yard. I stand under the roof as the men are talking to one or two of our guys and I don’t really pay attention. Just as im about to go and log off because irl stuff are getting worse, the soldiers detain the men and im made to point my rifle at them. As we are searching the men, two of the  known hobos arrive and I get asked to show the hobos to our office and I do so. After they are in the office I stand outside the door to the office and just chill. I see Max being moved by kjartan and maybe somone else further down the corridor and the other hostage im not sure where he went, so I thought he had been let go.

About 25-28 mins after I last see the other hostage, situations irl gets so bad I have to logg. So I ask oocly for permission, which gets granted to me by max, I ask again but don’t get an answer so I assume they let Brandon go since I thought I had heard something about letting him go. One of the officers tells me to run check something as a way to rp me get out of the area. I run and logg.

Overall I wasn’t a big part of the initation and for the most part not even part of it, I was guarding the hobos making sure they didn’t do anything stupid.

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@Jack Rees-Mountbatten @Luke Dowsett and @Max Stercorewill be temp banned until they post their POVs.

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2 hours ago, Aiko said:

@Jack Rees-Mountbatten @Luke Dowsett and @Max Stercorewill be temp banned until they post their POVs.

Heads up, @Jack Rees-Mountbatten Is in Uni and might not be on till the weekend. We haven’t seen him since the weekend. 

 

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So I logged on with Brandon and max but I wasn't with them. They say some Russians are walking over to them so I knew I had to get over to them as quick as possible. Max and Brandon soon had their communications removed but I knew that they was in Novo so I went to the school as I know the Russians have some sort of establishment there. Upon arrival I made sure I used a different voice as I knew I am a wanted man by the Russians so I could use my normal voice. I begin to explain that I would like to chill in the area and drop some things off into their tents so would it be cool if I could walk in and out the school to do so. I spoke to one of them who said it was fine and explained they was asking some men some questions due to them being potential threats. I overheard the conversation and noticed it was Brandon and Max so I decided to stick with the plan and stay around to see what happens. Later on they ask if i would like to help during the court case to decide what should be done to Brandon and Max and I agreed. Before we got to the court they took my weapon for "Safety purposes". The court case begins as I observe like I have been asked to. The case goes on and I soon get asked to step up and give the final decision into if they are innocent or not. I begin to explain that their is no evidence to prove them guilty whilst trying to stay on the Russians side and not break suspicion that we are apart of the same group. As I finish by saying they are innocent one of them calls me out and says I have committed a crime as I am apart of their group (Don't know how they would know this but sure). They ask me to leave and I begin to ask if I am allowed my weapon back when they talk about it. I get my weapon back and I am told to leave immediately. However, as I walk off I hear them say that they are going to have to do some hard labour back at the school so I began to flank round the back of the field which is where I ran into the american dude who said he was friends with the black roses. The Russians spot him and walk over and they begin to question who we both are and why we are there. I explain that I was hunting rabbits which he instantly says is against the law and I can be punished for then begins to talk to us in a threatening manor. Me and the American guy spoke our way out of it and walked away. I began to explain to him that my friends are down there and are being made to do slave labour and I ask if he would be able to help me free them. He says yes so we flank round the northern side of the school into the tree line. I watch closely as Max and Brandon partake in slave labour when I watch with my own eyes one of them get shot. I immediately open fire onto the Russians which is when they begin firing back. 

Edited by Luke Dowsett

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Thank you Luke, your temp ban will be removed.

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2 hours ago, Luke Dowsett said:

 The court case begins as I observe like I have been asked to. The case goes on and I soon get asked to step up and give the final decision into if they are innocent or not. I begin to explain that their is no evidence to prove them guilty whilst trying to stay on the Russians side and not break suspicion that we are apart of the same group. As I finish by saying they are innocent one of them calls me out and says I have committed a crime as I am apart of their group (Don't know how they would know this but sure)

I was the one who told you to leave and I never said you were apart of their group. The plan all along was to give them a guilty verdict and continue our labor punishment practice. You said they were not guilty so I turned to you and said "These men are clearly guilty and you must be insane, guards escort this man out of the court".

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39 minutes ago, Henning said:

I was the one who told you to leave and I never said you were apart of their group. The plan all along was to give them a guilty verdict and continue our labor punishment practice. You said they were not guilty so I turned to you and said "These men are clearly guilty and you must be insane, guards escort this man out of the court".

Video shows otherwise? https://plays.tv/video/5ab2cadb6893353138/evidence-1

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10 minutes ago, Luke Dowsett said:

cooperation as in you found them not guilty. not as in you were a member of your group.  

As you were recording, do you have any other video evidence?

Edited by Henning

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Did you say "These men are clearly guilty and you must be insane, guards escort this man out of the court".   

Don't think so pal

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Just now, Luke Dowsett said:

Did you say "These men are clearly guilty and you must be insane, guards escort this man out of the court".   

Don't think so pal

Do you have any other video evidence?

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2 minutes ago, Henning said:

Do you have any other video evidence?

Of what part?

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Just now, Luke Dowsett said:

Of what part?

Of the entire situation as you were clearly recording the entire time.

Also regarding the comment made by @Jack Rees-Mountbatten, It took you guys so long to write your POV's I had remembered the situation differently then it had unfolded. While you are correct I did not say it, I had been the one to tell @Jack Rees-Mountbatten to say it in the case that you found them not guilty.  Regardless We did not say you were a member of their group, we were implying that you were helping other westerns by handing down a soft verdict. It was never mean't to be a fair trial and they would have been found guilty in any situation.

I'd also like to point out that after watching your video I notice both @Brandon Hoey's and @Max Stercore's voices in the background.  How could they be speaking to you OOCly or IC if their radios had been removed?

Edited by Henning

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Well clearly not otherwise I would've gave you the full thing bud.

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