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S1, Attempted RDM, North of Chernogorsk

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Server and location: North of Chernogorsk, S1

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME):  Dunno logs will show

Your in game name: Matt Evans

Names of allies involved: Charlie Walsh, Malakai Carter

Name of suspect/s: Pete Dunham, Alex Shepard

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): None

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): My evidence

Mental's evidence

Detailed description of the events: After dying in a firefight me and my dude Charlie find a guy I lure him into the police station then Charlie strong-arms him for his Beanie, we leave the guy after strong-arming him and start to head up north. While starting to head up north me and Charlie run into a guy he starts to whine about how we strong armed his friend, we continue to head up north and he follows us, I start to tell him to fuck off, he tells me to be more polite so me being me tells him to "Fuck off faggot". to which he then punches me knocking me out instantly my lads then deal with him. After being knocked out for awhile his friend whom we strong-armed for his beanie comes over saying "Did you kill my friend?" he then raises his fist and starts to punch me I unload 4 hot bullets of .22 love juice into him but he still knocks me out, Charlie and Malakai knock the dude out then end him.

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Charlie Walsh POV

Me and ya boy Earthwalker roll up in Cherno after dying in a firefight, he leads a guy to the police station and I strong arm him for his beanie cause I'm all about that life. We then move our happy asses up north to acquire some gear from some walking loot bags up in the triangle and regroup with the horsemen and friends. On the road north some guy rolls up on us, we ask him to leave, the moment ya boy Earth gets a bit hostile, he decides to punch him out, picks up the machete from his body and as I try to get sweet revenge he starts to slash me up. I entually go down from blood loss then Mental rolls up and gats him as the guy starts to go for him as well. The whole situation left me confused and made me loose the will to live honestly.

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Malakai Carter POV

So after Poro, Earth and I die in a sick cunt firefight up north, we all respawn at cherno. After looting around Poro and Earth decide to head north (I was on my way at this point) where they encounter Pete Dunham. After some strongarming, Pete attempts to kill them with a machete, which is when I roll up. He hits me so i pull out my pistol and eventually shoot him down.

Soon after his friend rolls up and doesn't say much for a bit, he acts a little sus. Eventually he says "You killed my friend" and proceeds to punch Earth. Earth sprays him with a pea shooter but gets knocked out, Poro and I punch him and uncon him and I finish him off.

Overall the RP from Pete was just horrid, we believe that he did it because he was mad at us OOCly (we had killed him roughly 20 mins earlier in a firefight in the north)

Soz for the yellin', was just pretty amazed by what just happened. Felt like a pub server.

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Hit / Kill

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Matt Evans
00:59:52 | "Pete Dunham HIT Matt Evans by fist into head."
00:59:52 | "Player Matt Evans has fallen into unconsciousness."
01:00:36 | "Pete Dunham HIT Matt Evans by Machete into pelvis."
01:00:36 | "Pete Dunham HIT Matt Evans by Machete into pelvis."
01:00:36 | "Pete Dunham HIT Matt Evans by Machete into pelvis."
01:00:36 | "Pete Dunham HIT Matt Evans by Machete into pelvis."
01:00:38 | "Matt Evans STARTS BLEEDING."
01:02:35 | "Matt Evans STOPS BLEEDING."
01:05:10 | "Alex Shepherd HIT Matt Evans by fist into head."

Malakai Carter
01:01:34 | "Pete Dunham HIT Malakai Carter by Machete into LeftArm."
01:02:46 | "Malakai Carter STOPS BLEEDING."
01:05:14 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Malakai Carter by fist into leftarm."
01:05:14 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Malakai Carter by fist into leftarm."
01:05:23 | "Alex Shepherd HIT Malakai Carter by fist into head."

Charlie Walsh
01:00:10 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by fist into LeftArm."
01:00:15 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by fist into head."
01:00:28 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into Chest."
01:00:28 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into Chest."
01:00:28 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into Chest."
01:00:30 | "Charlie Walsh STARTS BLEEDING."
01:00:34 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into leftarm."
01:00:34 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into leftarm."
01:00:34 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into leftarm."
01:00:34 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into leftarm."
01:00:42 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into Chest."
01:01:06 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into Chest."
01:01:15 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into Chest."
01:01:28 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into LeftArm."
01:01:29 | "Player Charlie Walsh has fallen into unconsciousness."
01:01:36 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into rightarm."
01:01:39 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into rightarm."
01:02:26 | "Charlie Walsh STOPS BLEEDING."
01:05:24 | "Alex Shepherd HIT Charlie Walsh by fist into RightArm."
01:05:25 | "Alex Shepherd HIT Charlie Walsh by fist into RightArm."
01:05:26 | "Malakai Carter HIT Charlie Walsh by fist into Chest."

Pete Dunham
00:38:19 | "Pete Dunham STARTS BLEEDING."
00:39:48 | "Player Pete Dunham has fallen into unconsciousness."
00:44:21 | "Pete Dunham STARTS BLEEDING."
00:45:42 | "Player Pete Dunham has fallen into unconsciousness."
00:54:27 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into LeftArm."
00:54:35 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into RightArm."
00:54:43 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into RightArm."
00:54:46 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into Chest."
00:54:47 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into Chest."
00:54:49 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into Chest."
00:54:51 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into Chest."
00:54:53 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into head."
00:54:53 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into RightArm."
00:54:57 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into head."
00:54:57 | "Player Pete Dunham has fallen into unconsciousness."
00:54:57 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into head."
00:54:57 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into head."
00:54:57 | "Pete Dunham STARTS BLEEDING."
01:00:00 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into head."
01:00:01 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into LeftArm."
01:00:10 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into Chest."
01:00:14 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into head."
01:00:31 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into Chest."
01:00:39 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into LeftArm."
01:00:41 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into Chest."
01:00:45 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into leftarm."
01:01:10 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into Chest."
01:01:13 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into leftarm."
01:01:15 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into Chest."
01:01:36 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into rightarm."
01:01:40 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into RightArm."
01:01:57 | "Malakai Carter SHOT Pete Dunham by 1911 into Chest."
01:01:57 | "Malakai Carter SHOT Pete Dunham by 1911 into Chest."
01:01:57 | "Malakai Carter SHOT Pete Dunham by 1911 into Chest."
01:01:57 | Player "Pete Dunham" has been killed by player "Malakai Carter"

Alex Shepherd
00:40:12 | "Alex Shepherd STARTS BLEEDING."
00:41:54 | "Alex Shepherd STOPS BLEEDING."
01:05:10 | "Matt Evans SHOT Alex Shepherd by Ruger1022_Green into RightArm."
01:05:10 | "Matt Evans SHOT Alex Shepherd by Ruger1022_Green into RightArm."
01:05:10 | "Matt Evans SHOT Alex Shepherd by Ruger1022_Green into RightArm."
01:05:10 | "Matt Evans SHOT Alex Shepherd by Ruger1022_Green into RightArm."
01:05:10 | "Matt Evans SHOT Alex Shepherd by Ruger1022_Green into Chest."
01:05:13 | "Malakai Carter HIT Alex Shepherd by fist into Chest."
01:05:16 | "Alex Shepherd STARTS BLEEDING."
01:05:18 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Alex Shepherd by fist into Chest."
01:05:20 | "Malakai Carter HIT Alex Shepherd by fist into head."
01:05:23 | "Malakai Carter HIT Alex Shepherd by fist into RightArm."
01:05:25 | "Player Alex Shepherd has fallen into unconsciousness."
01:05:25 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Alex Shepherd by fist into head."
01:05:28 | "Malakai Carter HIT Alex Shepherd by fist into Chest."
01:05:28 | "Malakai Carter HIT Alex Shepherd by fist into Chest."
01:05:28 | "Malakai Carter HIT Alex Shepherd by fist into Chest."
01:05:28 | Player "Alex Shepherd" has been killed by player "Malakai Carter"

 

Chat

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00:45:46 | Chat("Alex Shepherd"): *smiles

 

Connection

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23:49:12 | Player "Matt Evans" is connected
02:09:47 | Player "Matt Evans" has been disconnected

23:02:06 | Player "Malakai Carter" is connected
02:38:18 | Player "Malakai Carter" has been disconnected

23:01:35 | Player "Charlie Walsh" is connected
No disconnection logs

23:06:50 | Player "Pete Dunham" is connected
Died

23:03:02 | Player "Alex Shepherd" is connected
Died

 

Calling @Mr.Panda and @Benlindsayy into this report to post their full and detailed POVs.

@Mental, please provide us with the full and unedited video.

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1 hour ago, Bunny said:

Hit / Kill

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Matt Evans
00:59:52 | "Pete Dunham HIT Matt Evans by fist into head."
00:59:52 | "Player Matt Evans has fallen into unconsciousness."
01:00:36 | "Pete Dunham HIT Matt Evans by Machete into pelvis."
01:00:36 | "Pete Dunham HIT Matt Evans by Machete into pelvis."
01:00:36 | "Pete Dunham HIT Matt Evans by Machete into pelvis."
01:00:36 | "Pete Dunham HIT Matt Evans by Machete into pelvis."
01:00:38 | "Matt Evans STARTS BLEEDING."
01:02:35 | "Matt Evans STOPS BLEEDING."
01:05:10 | "Alex Shepherd HIT Matt Evans by fist into head."

Malakai Carter
01:01:34 | "Pete Dunham HIT Malakai Carter by Machete into LeftArm."
01:02:46 | "Malakai Carter STOPS BLEEDING."
01:05:14 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Malakai Carter by fist into leftarm."
01:05:14 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Malakai Carter by fist into leftarm."
01:05:23 | "Alex Shepherd HIT Malakai Carter by fist into head."

Charlie Walsh
01:00:10 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by fist into LeftArm."
01:00:15 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by fist into head."
01:00:28 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into Chest."
01:00:28 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into Chest."
01:00:28 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into Chest."
01:00:30 | "Charlie Walsh STARTS BLEEDING."
01:00:34 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into leftarm."
01:00:34 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into leftarm."
01:00:34 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into leftarm."
01:00:34 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into leftarm."
01:00:42 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into Chest."
01:01:06 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into Chest."
01:01:15 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into Chest."
01:01:28 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into LeftArm."
01:01:29 | "Player Charlie Walsh has fallen into unconsciousness."
01:01:36 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into rightarm."
01:01:39 | "Pete Dunham HIT Charlie Walsh by Machete into rightarm."
01:02:26 | "Charlie Walsh STOPS BLEEDING."
01:05:24 | "Alex Shepherd HIT Charlie Walsh by fist into RightArm."
01:05:25 | "Alex Shepherd HIT Charlie Walsh by fist into RightArm."
01:05:26 | "Malakai Carter HIT Charlie Walsh by fist into Chest."

Pete Dunham
00:38:19 | "Pete Dunham STARTS BLEEDING."
00:39:48 | "Player Pete Dunham has fallen into unconsciousness."
00:44:21 | "Pete Dunham STARTS BLEEDING."
00:45:42 | "Player Pete Dunham has fallen into unconsciousness."
00:54:27 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into LeftArm."
00:54:35 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into RightArm."
00:54:43 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into RightArm."
00:54:46 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into Chest."
00:54:47 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into Chest."
00:54:49 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into Chest."
00:54:51 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into Chest."
00:54:53 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into head."
00:54:53 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into RightArm."
00:54:57 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into head."
00:54:57 | "Player Pete Dunham has fallen into unconsciousness."
00:54:57 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into head."
00:54:57 | "David Blake HIT Pete Dunham by fist into head."
00:54:57 | "Pete Dunham STARTS BLEEDING."
01:00:00 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into head."
01:00:01 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into LeftArm."
01:00:10 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into Chest."
01:00:14 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into head."
01:00:31 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into Chest."
01:00:39 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into LeftArm."
01:00:41 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into Chest."
01:00:45 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into leftarm."
01:01:10 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into Chest."
01:01:13 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into leftarm."
01:01:15 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into Chest."
01:01:36 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into rightarm."
01:01:40 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Pete Dunham by fist into RightArm."
01:01:57 | "Malakai Carter SHOT Pete Dunham by 1911 into Chest."
01:01:57 | "Malakai Carter SHOT Pete Dunham by 1911 into Chest."
01:01:57 | "Malakai Carter SHOT Pete Dunham by 1911 into Chest."
01:01:57 | Player "Pete Dunham" has been killed by player "Malakai Carter"

Alex Shepherd
00:40:12 | "Alex Shepherd STARTS BLEEDING."
00:41:54 | "Alex Shepherd STOPS BLEEDING."
01:05:10 | "Matt Evans SHOT Alex Shepherd by Ruger1022_Green into RightArm."
01:05:10 | "Matt Evans SHOT Alex Shepherd by Ruger1022_Green into RightArm."
01:05:10 | "Matt Evans SHOT Alex Shepherd by Ruger1022_Green into RightArm."
01:05:10 | "Matt Evans SHOT Alex Shepherd by Ruger1022_Green into RightArm."
01:05:10 | "Matt Evans SHOT Alex Shepherd by Ruger1022_Green into Chest."
01:05:13 | "Malakai Carter HIT Alex Shepherd by fist into Chest."
01:05:16 | "Alex Shepherd STARTS BLEEDING."
01:05:18 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Alex Shepherd by fist into Chest."
01:05:20 | "Malakai Carter HIT Alex Shepherd by fist into head."
01:05:23 | "Malakai Carter HIT Alex Shepherd by fist into RightArm."
01:05:25 | "Player Alex Shepherd has fallen into unconsciousness."
01:05:25 | "Charlie Walsh HIT Alex Shepherd by fist into head."
01:05:28 | "Malakai Carter HIT Alex Shepherd by fist into Chest."
01:05:28 | "Malakai Carter HIT Alex Shepherd by fist into Chest."
01:05:28 | "Malakai Carter HIT Alex Shepherd by fist into Chest."
01:05:28 | Player "Alex Shepherd" has been killed by player "Malakai Carter"

 

Chat

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00:45:46 | Chat("Alex Shepherd"): *smiles

 

Connection

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23:49:12 | Player "Matt Evans" is connected
02:09:47 | Player "Matt Evans" has been disconnected

23:02:06 | Player "Malakai Carter" is connected
02:38:18 | Player "Malakai Carter" has been disconnected

23:01:35 | Player "Charlie Walsh" is connected
No disconnection logs

23:06:50 | Player "Pete Dunham" is connected
Died

23:03:02 | Player "Alex Shepherd" is connected
Died

 

Calling @Mr.Panda and @Benlindsayy into this report to post their full and detailed POVs.

@Mental, please provide us with the full and unedited video.

I told you earlier, I won't get a chance to do it this weekend. The soace in between was useless, I cut it to reduce upload time with AU internet. You can literally see the guy coming towards us on part 2, I don't see why i need to reupload, its pointless. People upload multiple videos for a single report yet that's perfectly fine.

Monday is most likely the soonest it can be done.

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As you have stated, I knocked you out for robbing my friend as I was near the situation. I then was told by my friend Alex that he had be robbed and we saw the guys running up the road I then proceeded to follow them and question them. Then when he said "I took the hat because i wanted it" whilst still being rude as he said. I ran up to him and punched which he dropped straight away then everything kicked off. I also see that you said I was mad at you? Why would I be it was a fun role playing moment that I enjoyed risking my life at. Although, you say my rp was terrible but how is it if I'm using my rights against you. I started of speaking to you discussing why and then I attacked, Nor did I straight up take the machete I was using my fists against both of your mates until I noticed it was on the uncon body.

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@Mr.Panda is temp banned due to forum inactivity.

OP, how are you reporting for RDM? Who died?

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Sorry for my delay in posting my POV I had to reset my password...

Anyway a guy with a shotgun held me up and stole my hat.  That's it NO RP at all he just stole my hat and left. Then later my friend says he saw the guy that took my hat and he told me where he was going to meet them. Then when I go there I find my friend dead and 3 people standing around his dead body one of which was the guy that stole my hat like 15 minutes ago. So I said "You killed my friend" and punched him in the face. (I did this well within my two hour revenge time and I was within 500 Meters when they killed him)

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3 minutes ago, Mr.Panda said:

Sorry for my delay in posting my POV I had to reset my password...

Anyway a guy with a shotgun held me up and stole my hat.  That's it NO RP at all he just stole my hat and left. Then later my friend says he saw the guy that took my hat and he told me where he was going to meet them. Then when I go there I find my friend dead and 3 people standing around his dead body one of which was the guy that stole my hat like 15 minutes ago. So I said "You killed my friend" and punched him in the face. (I did this well within my two hour revenge time and I was within 500 Meters when they killed him)

Okay first of all, we did not rob you we ASKED for your hat, you dropped it on the floor and we ran off. What we did granted you 0 KOS rights and your friend had no right to punch us. Not trying to offend but you guys seem to need to re-read the rules cause we were being hostile but we did not initiate there was no threat to your life that you could act upon thus not giving your friend kos.

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Okay so to clarify, when I met you in the police station, I walked up to you, said "I'm gonna need that hat boy" you gave it up and we left, It was a strong arm, no initiation took place therefore you had no kill rights, during the situation the shotgun was in my hands but it was not pointed at you, nor did I threaten your life in any way.

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Just now, Earthwalker said:

Okay first of all, we did not rob you we ASKED for your hat, you dropped it on the floor and we ran off. What we did granted you 0 KOS rights and your friend had no right to punch us. Not trying to offend but you guys seem to need to re-read the rules cause we were being hostile but we did not initiate there was no threat to your life that you could act upon thus not giving your friend kiss.

You pointed your gun and told me to give you the hat which kind of sounds like a robbery... (And where's the RP?) you took my hat and ran off and then I heard "TOO EASY HAHAHHAHAHAHA" . I had just spawned in and you took one of my only things I had on me. (Kind of sounds like gear RP)

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5 minutes ago, Mr.Panda said:

You pointed your gun and told me to give you the hat which kind of sounds like a robbery... (And where's the RP?) you took my hat and ran off and then I heard "TOO EASY HAHAHHAHAHAHA" . I had just spawned in and you took one of my only things I had on me. (Kind of sounds like gear RP)

Gonna go ahead and recommend you start telling the truth in this report bud.

http://plays.tv/video/584b29f9682d53c95e/lies-all-lies  

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We didn't kill you? So why are we still talking about KOS anyway? I thought you raised your gun (My bad it was like 15 hours ago) but you lead me into a trap then demanded something from me (to which I didn't really have a choice being backed in a Corner, outnumbered , and unarmed)  Then you mocked me and ran off.

If you think we KOSd you...

7.1 Killing another player must always be justified with role play. (You bullied me into giving you my hat then mocked me and when my friend confronted you about it you murdered him so yeah my character would be mad from a RP stand point)

7.2 Players gain kill rights when a hostile action is taken against them or their group, or when their characters life is at risk.  Luring me into a trap, demanding something of mine while backing me into a corner with weapon in hand seems like a hostile action to me.

And as far as "Giving you the hat"  ... If someone lures you to a building then a unknown man comes in with a shotgun in hand corners you in a building and says "I'm gonna need that hat boy" feels like a situation were you don't have much of a choice and that guy with shotgun in hand staring at you  is definitely being hostile towards you.

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6.4 You may not bait other players into situations where you use kill rights or self-defense (see rule 7.2) due to their response to your provoking actions.  (Bullying someone into giving up something, Mocking them, then murdering their friend and standing around his dead body is provoking to say the least)

"Hostile actions are player interactions where you or your group members lives are threatened by other players, or you are forced to do something against your will under threat of violence."  (That shotgun wasn't in your hands to make friends and the way you went about demanding my stuff is the 'OR ELSE' style of asking)

6.1 You must always have a valid in character reason which would justify a hostile situation. ( You did it for my hat...)

5.3 You may not focus on out of character gains to the detriment of RP. "Rule play" is prioritizing rules and OOC information above more appropriate IC actions or behavior. Always prioritize role play over rule play.  (You didn't innate formally because then you thought I wouldn't have KOS rights and if you did it this way you could hide behind the rules. Meanwhile my RP reason was you bullied, mocked and murdered my friend... I don't know about you but that seems like a reason to hit someone IC.)

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@Mr.Panda Your temp ban has been lifted, keep an eye on the report in case we have any more questions for you.

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4 hours ago, Mr.Panda said:

7.1 Killing another player must always be justified with role play. (You bullied me into giving you my hat then mocked me and when my friend confronted you about it you murdered him so yeah my character would be mad from a RP stand point)

Bullied? I said "I'm gonna need that hat" you then drop the hat for me. I didn't threaten your life at all, it is what you call, strongarming. Your friend was killed because he decided to punch out one person and slash up the other when he had no KOS, so he was then shot.

4 hours ago, Mr.Panda said:

7.2 Players gain kill rights when a hostile action is taken against them or their group, or when their characters life is at risk.  Luring me into a trap, demanding something of mine while backing me into a corner with weapon in hand seems like a hostile action to me.

I demanded nothing, I'll go back to the whole strongarming thing. I said what I said in a way that I was not directly hostile, but instead implies that if you dont do as I ask then things may then get hostile, this does not grant you  kill rights.

3 hours ago, Mr.Panda said:

6.4 You may not bait other players into situations where you use kill rights or self-defense (see rule 7.2) due to their response to your provoking actions.  (Bullying someone into giving up something, Mocking them, then murdering their friend and standing around his dead body is provoking to say the least)

So now you're just grasping at straws, there was no initiation so baiting is almost completely out the question, if I had forced you got initiate on me then yes this would be right, but there was no initiation anyhow and you were forced to nothing as you had many different options.

3 hours ago, Mr.Panda said:

6.1 You must always have a valid in character reason which would justify a hostile situation. ( You did it for my hat...)

My character wears and wanted a beanie, you had one, wasn't hard to get it off you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

3 hours ago, Mr.Panda said:

5.3 You may not focus on out of character gains to the detriment of RP. "Rule play" is prioritizing rules and OOC information above more appropriate IC actions or behavior. Always prioritize role play over rule play.  (You didn't innate formally because then you thought I wouldn't have KOS rights and if you did it this way you could hide behind the rules. Meanwhile my RP reason was you bullied, mocked and murdered my friend... I don't know about you but that seems like a reason to hit someone IC.)

We didn't initiate at all, this is seen in the recording and the reason this is a report at all is because your friend decided to use these made up KOS rights nether of you had.

You should probably stop grasping at straws now bud.

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Okay little update. Haven't being home all weekend so i dont know whos been on my PC, but for some reason the original footage has decided to fuck its image. It's useless.

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53 minutes ago, Mental said:

Okay little update. Haven't being home all weekend so i dont know whos been on my PC, but for some reason the original footage has decided to fuck its image. It's useless.

The original footage is what? Could you elaborate please.

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1 hour ago, Alex said:

The original footage is what? Could you elaborate please.

Broken, fucked, useless, corrupted, as in the video is just a green thing, sorta like a broken monitor where the screens just lines of pixels everywhere and it looks fucked.

Don't really know how else to explain it.

Whatever happened while I was gone all weekend, it's happened to all my recorded footage on my PC, not just this report video.

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1 hour ago, Andrey said:

@Earthwalker you also seem to have had playsTV active which records all the gameplay. Could you be able to upload the full video?

 

Unfortunately I deleted the footage awhile back after I uploaded the last video to clear some space, never dawned upon me that I'd need to keep it sorry.

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@Mr.Panda - NVFL - Guilty |Lying in a report - Guilty
@Benlindsayy - Attempted RDM - Guilty


So @Mr.Panda claims that he was held at gunpoint for his hat. In this post here he says the following:

On 09/12/2016 at 9:57 PM, Mr.Panda said:

You pointed your gun and told me to give you the hat

However as we can see from this video that is nothing but a lie. No guns were pointed and you were never once demanded to hand over your hat, the words used were "Listen here boy, I'm gonna need that beanie of yours." this is quite clearly not a demand therefore not a robbery. Lying in a report not only makes us not trust your story but it will make us wary of any POV you provide in future reports. Lying in a report is one of the worst rule breaks you can commit as it completely ruins our faith in you as a community member.

So, from the video provided, it is evident that you weren't robbed for your hat therefore you nor your ally had KOS rights for this. You may have felt threatened in the situation but you were never actually threatened. Your ally @Benlindsayy then follows the OP and his allies to begin some hostile RP with them regarding the hat. He is called a faggot and knocks the OP out for calling him that. We don't see this punch nor the fight that ensued as attempted RDM, as it would make perfect sense to start a fist fight over something like that. However we do see it as attempted RDM when @Benlindsayy begins attacking an unconscious player with a machete, trying to kill him, when he had absolutely no rights to do so.

On 09/12/2016 at 7:00 AM, Bunny said:

00:59:52 | "Pete Dunham HIT Matt Evans by fist into head."
00:59:52 | "Player Matt Evans has fallen into unconsciousness."
01:00:36 | "Pete Dunham HIT Matt Evans by Machete into pelvis."

Because of this you will be punished for this. You had no rights to kill the OP nor his allies. Shortly after this you are then killed by @Mental and not long after your death, @Mr.Panda rejoins the situation so he can get revenge for the death of his friend.

@Mr.Panda while you may have been within your rights to get revenge for this, you did so in a poor manner. You sprinted up and used your fists to attack a man holding a gun. He proceeds to shoot you with his .22 before you get a lucky knockout punch, not long after this you are killed just as your friend was. You absolutely did not value your life in this situation. You sprinted up to several armed men and tried to fist fight them. In real life there is no respawn button, you should value your character's life a lot more than you did in this situation and we do not want to see this blatant disregard for your character's life in the future.

To both @Mr.Panda and @Benlindsayy we would recommend the both of you to take a look at the Mentor Programme to improve your roleplay and understanding of the rules. We believe that with the help of a Mentor to guide you, the two of you can and will learn a lot. For these reasons we will be putting your name forward. You can also take a look at the following roleplay guides so you can learn more.

Lastly, @Mental unfortunately your video evidence corrupted whilst you were away and there is no way for us to know how this happened. This would not have been an issue had you followed the Report Rules to begin with and uploaded the full and unedited video. You know just as well as anyone else that edited video is not allowed under any circumstances. Whether or not the video is "irrelevant" or "useless" to the report is not for you to decide but the team handling the report. We do not want to see this again. The same can be said for @Earthwalker always upload the full video right away in future.


@Mr.Panda - NVFL + Lying in a report - 10 day ban + 20 warning points.
@Benlindsayy - Attempted RDM - 2 day ban + 10 warning points.

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