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Hostage execution if other hostage doesnt complie.

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Ryan Carter    8

I got told to make a suggestion to be able to kill and or execute the non compliant player and to kill the nearest person to them to stop people from not trying to rebel against the hostage taker and to add another thing to the hostages minds to think about while they are the hostage and to make people think about there friends. I know this can be back fired on you but its just another thing to add in that you could

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Defiance    96

Nah, I think non-compliance should only grant you execution rights over the specific person who is not complying. Otherwise, you're just being a dick and ending someone's RP who was complying.

Definitely shooting this idea down.

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Castiel    1124

It's a no from me. It's somebody's choice if they choose not to comply and a risk they are willing to take, don't punish other compliant hostages for one person's choice.

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Grimnir    587

Then tell this person, who told you to make this suggestion: NO.

People are already to trigger happy with executions instead of using torture. Also I can't control the actions of my friends, so why should I be executed?

You can always make the threat ICly and if people aren't massive ruleplayers they will react to that in some way that is not: "Fuck you, you can't do that!"

On a side note: Please, don't jump to executions! Torture is by far a better way for so many reasons, so please don't sit there waiting for a mistake to execute a hostage! (Not accusing you of doing that, just want to put it out there)

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GreekGodx    119

I will have to say no as well. It is all up to the person if they want to be taken hostage or risk being killed for trying to flee from the situation.

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Yeh, a no from me. Non compliance should be an individual's choice, and somebody should not be punished for their friends or a stranger's decision to go non-complaint. Also you should be initiating for further RP and therefore should want to keep as many hostages alive as possible.

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No.. as others have said, people should not be punished for their friends actions.

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I'd be interested for you to go into more detail. Maybe edit the OP and describe a scenario so I could picture and get a better understanding of what you mean, as it stands it's a no from me, interested to see a situation this would be used in.

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Dustup    118

Why should someone who is complying be killed because someone they may or may not even know or have any ties to decide to not comply?  This could be badly abused as well.  A big NO from me.

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Dishes    159

Yeah a total no for me too, shouldn't execute people who are complying if their friend isn't.

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Ellie    335

Nah fam.

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Skinner    432

Absolutely not. Hostage taking should be difficult and dangerous, the last thing we need to do is lower the bar.

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Mercy    489

That's like your friend saying something but you can't control what your friend says and you get killed for it. It wouldn't feel fair and it isn't your fault that you can't control what your friend says.

That's how I see it in a different perspective.

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Lyca    676

Definitely no. Sorry. ;)

You cant control your friends. Nobody should be punished and die because the other hostage didnt comply. That would be completely unfair.

And I think there would be a lot of drama.

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I'd much prefer not to get brained because some other guy I probably don't even know tries to run or fight back, imo it'd be abused insanely just for the free gear without having to escort and rp with the hostage. Hostage taking ain't suppose to be easy and if this was added it'd just make the trigger happy hostage takers that gat a hostage soon as shooting starts even more likely to gun down someone complying.

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Daisy    108

You can always ask for permission to execute, but most people would probably disagree to be killed for their friends' non-compliance. And that right to disagree is just fair.

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Rose    141

Ima have to say No on this one, we cant control what our friends/others say or do, and it would not be fair to get shot because someone we may not even have a connection with decides to not comply.

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Malet    43

You want set a warning example by killing two hostages who cant remember that after dying anyway? - That doesnt even make any sense O.o

Furthermore are there a.) many ways to change the attidude of a hostage (see --> Torture) or b.) dont take hostages in the first place if emotions like anger, fear or recalcitrance overexert your nerves ;)

So - Hell no from my side

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No. But go ahead and fake it.

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Unknown Entity    126

I've met groups and people that have played with this rule to gain an advantage.

One of them would comply, forcing the initiators too take care of him, and all of a sudden the rest of the group would start shooting.

This is a clear dick move, but not much can be done rule wise. I understand the suggestion, however I don't like it.

Mainly what worries me is for dynamic groups, if you meet up with someone you do not know and decide to go around together, get initiated on, you comply and he doesn't, that has nothing to do with you.

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I tell people this all the time at the end of the day they are hostages they should not have more power than the guy with the gun they are at my mercy when they are my hostages as it should be. When iv told people this recently they have from experience been more likely to comply because they think they are going to get someone else killed.

This comes more into play especially if they are in the same group and you have execution rights anyway because you can get real creative with it. Ever asked a group if they would be willing to let their leader die in exchange for all of their lives? some great betrayals can be had.

I mean the real question here is why should the guy in handcuffs have so much power?

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Ryan Carter    8

It was a suggestion because I have always had this happen in every fight I was in dayzrp one would surrender others would shoot but when more than one person was the hostage say the leader it would add something on to the hostages brain then the people that would shoot. to either get them killed or not just shoot the minute they initiate.

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Skinner    432

I get what you're saying but hostage taking is difficult. Initiating on groups of heavily armed, untrained, paranoid, desperate survivors is very very dangerous and it is not something that should be attempted by inexperienced or uncoordinated groups of bandits. Good banditry is hard to pull off properly and that's why I have tremendous respect for those who are able to accomplish it without breaking rules and while ensuring the encounter was entertaining not only for themselves but for their victims as well.

It is difficult and it SHOULD be difficult. If anyone finds it too difficult then perhaps they are not equal to the task and should try to observe some of the excellent hostile RP that this community has to offer and do their best to emulate that if they can.

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xMarrk    7

Also remember... just because you CAN execute somebody... doesn't always mean you SHOULD!

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Wulfe    6

Isn't one dead hostage enough to get the point across about Non-Compliance?

If there are three hostages, and one is killed for Non-compliance, I think the other two will start complying immediately.

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