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S1 BadRP Stary Sobor 5/08/2016 22.00

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Server and location: S1 Stary Sobor

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 5/08/2016 approx 22.00

Your in game name: Nicko Valer

Names of allies involved: Thomas Hyde and Summer Daye

Name of suspect/s: Aziz Keem and Ben Keem

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): /

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): Multiple screenshots

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Video

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(I have more of the encounter on video, this is the most core part. The rest is just the 'normal' acting one saying that he's got cerebral posee and then goes on a little bit before we leave)

Detailed description of the events:  

As we are roleplaying in Stary Sobor, having quite a good RP-session with numerous people. Some better than others, all of a sudden a lot of movement is going around in the town. People getting rowdy and running around, people pulling out of the town and in the background stuff can be heard as : put your hands up in the air for ..... Now out of the buildings we were hearing it from emerge these two people. And the rest can be seen in the video. At first these two seemed like they were going to rob me and Summer, as you will hear at the start of the encounter between them and us. From there on, stuff begins to go to the trollish. The man rants something like 'Put your hands up for' numerous times which almost made us think it was an initiation sometimes. Other people must have heard it as well. Then comes the blaming the one that is acting trollish on having Scoliocis and after cerebral diseases. Basicly downright trollish.

I'm an oldie in the community but this is one of the worst cases I've seen before. It drained me from the want to RP so I just came here to report it.

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Connection Logs:

20:16:25 | Player "Aziz Keem" is connected (id=)
22:07:09 | Player "Aziz Keem"(id=) has been disconnected

20:17:35 | Player "Ben Keem" is connected (id=)
22:09:08 | Player "Ben Keem"(id=) has been disconnected

Calling Aziz Keem and Ben Keem into this report to post their full and detailed POVs.

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I'll be posting my video tomorrow. It's obviously similar to Nicksons.

For my POV:

We met these 2 in Stary, and they were right away very trollish. I was split from Nickson and Mary and took cover behind the church for a moment whilst they RPed just in case.

After a while with other people showing up, I decided to show myself. Apon arrival, I see the Ben Keem rolling around on the ground, randomly spitting out "Put your hands in the air" blablabla.

He also started saying he had scoliosis, moving his character around in various odd ways, crouching and putting himself on the side.

Then the other Keem decided to say that he was mentally retarded, this followed by more scoliosis, poliosis, and other random stuff.

All in all there isn't much to say, this was just blatant trolling and was extremely childish.

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I met these two as well, just before they went to stary.. they were blatantly trolling around doing the same thing op described.

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Due to the nature of this report the accused will be temp banned until they post POV's.

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[align=left]I am Summer Daye, and was there with Nickson when the situation took place. My POV matches the one put forward by the OP: We were RP-ing with numerous people when we heard one of the accused continuously repeating "put your kanes in the air for your .......champion". We initially thought we were going to get robbed or at the least initiated on. Thankfully that didn't happen, instead the accused graced us the behaviour shown in all the video evidence provided. We did try to push them towards letting go of their inner troll and actually rp with us, but to no avail. Summer then proceeded to seek help in resolving the situation, since she did believe the dude on the floor was retarded and should be deprived of his weapon.

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I am seen/heard showing up at the end, with the bright green armbands. We took over the situation after the OPs group and we took them to the medical centre on grounds that they needed to be medically examined, we took them hostage, accusing them of scamming people out of their gear pretending to be disabled. They weren't co-operative, constantly talking even after I threatened them I would shoot them if they carried on. Now I don't like to shoot people for talking I think it's not very good RP but as you can see in the video they clearly weren't for serious roleplay. When were inside the medical clinic the "disabled" guy gave some interesting dialogue (if that's what you wanna call it..) with such phrases like: "Oh yeah, take my shirt off baby", "I like it when you strip me, baby", [some crunching sound come from his mic] "sorry, some chi[s on the floor" and just other trollish remarks of an orgy or something. At the end of it, they were both executed, the one I executed wouldn't stop talking and the other guy would not wake up after 25 or so minutes so we executed him. I can't remember who did it but it was needed as he wasn't going to wake up and we couldn't do anything for him. I can also agree with the OP that this was the worst case of trolling/badRP I've seen on the server, granted 90% of RP is good, and that it genuinely infuriated me what they were doing.

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I agree with the top four posts about the Bad RP we were trying to make a more humorous and "different" RP situation, the other Keem known as Ben Keem was actually retarded, this can be justified within his character as his "RP career" has involved him inhaling many smoke grenades which are carcinogenic and he has lost many brain cells due to this unfortunate altercation. It may have been very trollish but we also did say that my brother was a WoW pro and that he was having flashbacks, that is where the term (which was cleared up several times) was stated "Put your cans in the air for your Counter-Pit League champions! Natus Vincere) His character which he was originally white-listed with is and was accepted stating he was living with our parents and he was traumatized during their death. I then began to apologize for his attitude, I was just trying to get a little laugh out of them, but as you can see the "Experienced RPers" in which they call themselves are not keen to understanding humor, human emotions are signified to laugh during another ones pain, that is why he was acting like he did. Now dealing with the last poster, which had a green armband (which me friend and I may follow up with reports) He had gone so far, I complied with them, I never changed my story on them. You can ask the other previous posters, we never asked for help he offered us help, then he has the audacity to say we tried scamming people by acting disabled. As I said I did everything they asked me, my friend on the other hand was a little too much and can agree had horrible RP in that situation. I listened to them and spoke when asked and only spoke out of line 2 times once before leaving the medical clinic, and when they knocked my brother out. I started to cry and one member said "ah hes gonna be ok" I then preceded to ask "are you sure?" and then the innocent little Kibuka Nanyonga killed me after only asking about the well being of my brother. He also went on to execute my brother instead of letting him live and going on their way. He was unconscious for a long time but that doesn't give them the ability to Execute them. I also followed my characters lore and never strayed from it, is it my bad that I encountered the wrong end of the spectrum for "RPers". I had met some very cool guys in Kabanino and they went with it fine. They actually laughed with us. I understand not everyone has the best sense of humor, but do not punish us for ours. I would also like to say I am sorry to those that felt that our RP was "Bad RP" the man in the airfield also was told that he was joking around with me and not to worry his gun was not loaded and that is how we joked around as brothers. I'm deeply sanded to hear that through your years in Chernarus you have not developed an sense of humor in ones pain, which is a basic human emotion especially in the brink of madness and anarchy which has enthralled Chernarus and its people. Now the only thing I personally see wrong with the situation is that my brother took it too far out of RP and can be warned but that is not my purpose, that is the chain of command's and therefore that concludes my POV.

Characters involved: Aziz Keem, Ben Keem

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Hi.

I'm one of those, as you say, "Experienced RPers".

I fail too see where it is written in this thread and where we have called ourselves that, but that is not the point.

I myself have played humours characters a few times, and it has always gone very well, I quite enjoy seeing humours characters that actually make me laugh instead of cringe.

There is a clear line between "humour" and trolling. Your friends character was simply trolling repeating the same thing over and over, without it having any sense or being developed on. He was using actual DayZ glitches as part of the roleplay ("My head is in my knees").

Justifying all this by the simple means of "inhaling smoke grenades" is just a bullshit excuse.

I honestly am astonished if you fail too see where and how this is trollish and do not have much to add, except that I would personally highly suggest you two aim towards more serious characters as you are newer members. Mentally retarded is very difficult to pull off seriously.

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Hi.

I'm one of those, as you say, "Experienced RPers".

I fail too see where it is written in this thread and where we have called ourselves that, but that is not the point.

I myself have played humours characters a few times, and it has always gone very well, I quite enjoy seeing humours characters that actually make me laugh instead of cringe.

There is a clear line between "humour" and trolling. Your friends character was simply trolling repeating the same thing over and over, without it having any sense or being developed on. He was using actual DayZ glitches as part of the roleplay ("My head is in my knees").

Justifying all this by the simple means of "inhaling smoke grenades" is just a bullshit excuse.

I honestly am astonished if you fail too see where and how this is trollish and do not have much to add, except that I would personally highly suggest you two aim towards more serious characters as you are newer members. Mentally retarded is very difficult to pull off seriously.

I'm an oldie in the community but this is one of the worst cases I've seen before. It drained me from the want to RP so I just came here to report it. I said that because he stated he was an oldie there fore experienced.

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As promised, my video evidence:

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There isn't much different in this video, except the end of the interaction where you also get too see the "Retarded" one going into suicide animation, wanting to kill himself due to his scoliosis, and then going back to the cans in the air.

If staff needs anything do not hesitate, otherwise I will no longer be posting in this report.

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it "genuinely infuriated" me when you killed my character.

Now provide a POV as requested.

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As promised, my video evidence:

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Currently processing, it should be done soon.

There isn't much different in this video, except the end of the interaction where you also get too see the "Retarded" one going into suicide animation, wanting to kill himself due to his scoliosis, and then going back to the cans in the air.

If staff needs anything do not hesitate, otherwise I will no longer be posting in this report.

I have read your reply again later today, and can agree my friend didnt develop nor justify the use of his actions, I will in the future ponder more on how to develop situations, as you noticed were new in the whole RP scene. We have been reported for breaking the same rule twice, one for being AFK, and now this. They arent the same circumstance but I can see your point-of-view of this topic. Maybe to us it was humorous to see the blank reactions to each others remarks, and I can understand where the trollish side can be seen. I would like to formally apologize if I made you cringe (i personally would have as well by re-watching the videos), my friend and I were just trying to have fun (He went a bit far). So I know you didn't post the original report but I would like you to forgive me. I'm fairly new I am still getting used to it. The only people I had helping me develop character disbanded (I was a part of the Brotherhood.) I am Sorry.

**EDIT: Im not even quite sure if what ive posted counts as a POV, im sorry if I havent please tell me if I need to. I will be sure to post my POV, which is roughly what I was trying to say in my first post.

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it "genuinely infuriated" me when you killed my character.

Bear in mind that we did not kill your character and that the people who executed you ingame for not complying to their demands as their hostage havn't killed your character. Your character dies when you seem it is right, you and you alone have that right to decide if you want to 'perma' your character.

I'm an oldie in the community but this is one of the worst cases I've seen before. It drained me from the want to RP so I just came here to report it. I said that because he stated he was an oldie there fore experienced.

Bear in mind that stating that I'm an oldie in this community doesn't mean that I think I'm superior to you. I'm a member of the community and so are you, I roleplay under the same rules that you do. It makes me no different from you.


I will not be dropping this report however simply because of the clear nature of trolling/badRP. Your friend decided that it was better to give a witty comment instead of a POV like he was asked this also gives me more of a feeling that you two still need to learn from your mistakes. 

If you want to express yourself in humorous RP be sure to it that you discuss with your friend to how far you want to go. Because randomly shouting out names of real diseases and then fakishly re-enacting them through ingame bugs/glitches is not the way to go. In that way, by not even knowing what diseases you are shouting out and claiming your brother has, you may just insult people who have those diseases. And I would also like to point out that your brother wouldn't even be able to carry a gun like that if he had Polio. The strain on him would be too heavy if he was misformed like he was 'RP-ing' out. Please do get your facts straight before you attempt anything with real-life diseases as it is a sensitive topic.

Therefor I will not drop this report at all. I feel that all the needed evidence from my side has been given in the way it is supposed to be given. Therefor nobody else from my group shall be posting until staff has reached their verdict.

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it "genuinely infuriated" me when you killed my character.

Bear in mind that we did not kill your character and that the people who executed you ingame for not complying to their demands as their hostage havn't killed your character. Your character dies when you seem it is right, you and you alone have that right to decide if you want to 'perma' your character.

I'm an oldie in the community but this is one of the worst cases I've seen before. It drained me from the want to RP so I just came here to report it. I said that because he stated he was an oldie there fore experienced.

Bear in mind that stating that I'm an oldie in this community doesn't mean that I think I'm superior to you. I'm a member of the community and so are you, I roleplay under the same rules that you do. It makes me no different from you.


I will not be dropping this report however simply because of the clear nature of trolling/badRP. Your friend decided that it was better to give a witty comment instead of a POV like he was asked this also gives me more of a feeling that you two still need to learn from your mistakes. 

If you want to express yourself in humorous RP be sure to it that you discuss with your friend to how far you want to go. Because randomly shouting out names of real diseases and then fakishly re-enacting them through ingame bugs/glitches is not the way to go. In that way, by not even knowing what diseases you are shouting out and claiming your brother has, you may just insult people who have those diseases. And I would also like to point out that your brother wouldn't even be able to carry a gun like that if he had Polio. The strain on him would be too heavy if he was misformed like he was 'RP-ing' out. Please do get your facts straight before you attempt anything with real-life diseases as it is a sensitive topic.

Therefor I will not drop this report at all. I feel that all the needed evidence from my side has been given in the way it is supposed to be given. Therefor nobody else from my group shall be posting until staff has reached their verdict.

I agree with you and understand that I was a bit harsh per se, I completely understand my standing and your point of view. I will take this as a lesson and learn from it. Keep in mind I have tried multiple times to get my friend to respond with his POVs, he is very immature and disregarded me when I gave him what I was going to post so he can formulate his version easily. I understand if you find us immature but I tried my best being mature after the fact, and I'm sorry on both our Behalfs. I will be awaiting until further notice and will accept the punishment which is deemed necessary. 

Unitl then Good Night.

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I was praying to my God Michael McCary because my religion is scoliosisism and I said "put your CANS in the air" as if to make a toast. And I don't understand how the people who killed a hostage unjustly do not get a ban.

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I met these two as well, just before they went to stary.. they were blatantly trolling around doing the same thing op described.

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And as for this one, I don't understand the point of you posting this considering you were barely involved at all, me and my friend were just messing around. You knew I was his friend, in the video you even say "he's with his friend" or something of that nature. honestly cumbuggles my mind on how you get so chrono triggered over something you didn't have to include in and clearly we were just having a laugh.

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Ben Keem - Trolling - Guilty

Aziz Keem - BadRP - Guilty


We the staff team have looked over the video evidence and the POVs provided and have come to a conclusion regarding this report:

Ben we will begin with you. Several times you stated you had Scoliosis, which is a curvature of the spine. If you had done any research at all you would have known that the symptoms of Scoliosis are basically very minor. They do not make you bend up like a pretzel. Even if this was a serious RP character "Which it wasn't" we would have wanted you to role-play the character accurately. Your behavior in the multiple videos we watched was very trolly and quite frankly unacceptable on our servers. Several times you did mock initiations and then after put your gun to your head for the suicide animation.

We see this behavior was not isolated to one incident as it occurred in Stary Sobor as well as the NWAF. Due to the style of "role-play" you provided we will be aggravating your punishment. In the off chance you return and try to play here again we hope you decide to take this more seriously.

Aziz you participated in this role-play and reading your POVs, it's obvious that you feel this role-play was acceptable. You did not participate as much as Ben and therefore you will only be punished for BadRP. In situations like this it is best to distance yourself from the incident or at least tell your friend to knock it off.


With the above stated the following applies

Ben Keem - Aggravated Trolling - 10 days + 15 points + Whitelist revoked

Aziz Keem - 5 days 10 points + whitelist revoked

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