Understanding

[Jetwells]

So, From my understanding, Promotion of rule breaks is allowed via the media section? And promoting the reporting of people over talking things out? Just for clarification.

[AndreyQ]

Media is for videos and photos. If in those you can spot clear rulebreaks then as staffs always says feel free to make a report.

I also don't understand how it can promote a rule break. A video or a photo can show maybe a rule being broken but just because it shows it does not mean it promotes it. It may just be a funny video of Roman RDMing a guy, or just a group photo that has someone that was permabanned. Those that mean it promotes permabanned people?

Also it is always the best to talk about a report either after or before posting it. If the op decides to drop it then staff will decide if they are gonna close it or not depending on the situation.

[Jetwells]

If someone feels a rule is broken, A report can be made. When a rule is broken, and an event IC is made from this broken rule. And then is gloated about on the forums in the manner it is. Which has effected not only my roleplay, but multiple others. And having said screenshots are promoting said event that is caused a negative effect. Said event should be removed and forgotten about if said event is from a rulebreak.

If people feel it is having a negative effect, they have every right for it to be removed in my eyes. And thats exactly what it is.

If a rulebreak happens and its talked out, like it has been, then a report wouldn't be needed, but if said rulebreak has been discussed and the person has agreed to breaking said rule, and then an event like this results in having alot of OOC things being brought IC which should never have, Limiting the roleplay of others, Why would staff not want to promote the roleplay that people have wanted. We could go down the route of not only it being Metagaming, but powergaming also.

So, If i report said rule break, Would that result in said thread and IC information that has been used be wiped? No, Its a clusterfuck that has happened and people from the outside, like yourself, it hasnt effected, you see no wrong doing. But with people who are directly involved feeling that its effected their roleplay and progression from a media thread promoting the "Death" of zbor. Which in essence is tarnishing the name and basically forced the group to archive and not it happen how it was supposed to.

If one person finds something to be wrong, and then others agree, does this mean the collective is incorrect and should just do nothing about it? Or should something be said and hope that something should be done about it? Or should it be left alone because it only effects the "Minority"?

As we all know, Information that is on the forums is used ingame.

[Mental]

The thread was a bunch of screenshots that were taken. There was no evidence of a rule break in them, nor did the OP mention it.

If you feel a rule was broken, report it. Simple.

It just seems like you're witch-hunting for a reason for the thread to be taken down, which is comepletely unnecessary as the OP hasnt done anything wrong.

As we all know, Information that is on the forums is used ingame.

When someone does this, get the evidence and report it, how hard is it? You're just assuming that people are going to metagame this info, which is probably true, but theres no need to repeat it over and over on an innocent thread.

Which in essence is tarnishing the name and basically forced the group to archive

Are you sure about that?

[Samaritan]

If you have an issue then speak to staff about it. If you believe a rule break has happened and is effecting you and/or others then you have every right to report it or at least speak to staff about it regardless if it is IC'ly or OOC'ly. I would let staff decide rather then asking the community because we as community members will have differing opinions of the situation but ultimately it will not have an outcome should you desire one. Speak to a staff member about your concerns, I would suggest a GM or Admin.

[Roland]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I kind of agree with Andrey.

Unless it's a "lololol look at the mass kos in this video" kind of thread, I don't see the issue.

The thread I believe you're talking about contains footage of an in game event. Even if there was a rule break involved in that event, that should be handled in the report.

[Jetwells]

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This is the thing. There is no need for a report on the person who has broken said rules as it has been talked out. But now my RP has been completely removed and I have basically been building up an IC story for absolutely no reason as of now. The event that has taken place would not of taken place if a rule break did not occur. That's what i'm getting at.

But of course, people who arent involved in the situation from an outside perspective wont see this. So lets just /close and ill take my leave.

[AndreyQ]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I kind of agree with Andrey.

Well, this is a first-timer

[Roland]

Since the screenshots in the thread only picture the overall event and do not show or mock the rule breaks that happened during the event, I don't see any reason to close/remove it. Solved.

[Nolan]

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This is the thing. There is no need for a report on the person who has broken said rules as it has been talked out. But now my RP has been completely removed and I have basically been building up an IC story for absolutely no reason as of now. The event that has taken place would not of taken place if a rule break did not occur. That's what i'm getting at.

But of course, people who arent involved in the situation from an outside perspective wont see this. So lets just /close and ill take my leave.

Jetwells, it really seems like you're making a fuss out of nothing. There was no 'glorification' or 'promotion' of a rulebreak in that thread, especially not by the OP - so why would you punish him for simply observing and recording events that happened? I'm really confused as to how you see that thread as promoting a rulebreak. I mean, there are threads full of videos of people accidently KOS/RDMing others, all in good faith, which are more to 'promoting' rulebreaks than that thread yet you don't seem to have an issue with those.

EDIT: Thread's solved so nevermind, but whatever.

[Jetwells]

-Snip-

There would of been no event if there was no rulebreak, So the whole screenshot collection is of a rulebreak. The rulebreak caused the event. What i want is the "Event" to be null and void. The screenshots have no other relevance than it being of an event that should not of taken place. That is what the whole "Fuss" is about.

But its ok, Ill just go report the person instead for meta-gaming the event instead, as thats what i can see being wanted here. Not for a amicable solution to be brought forward like what i have stated. The event to be null and void. But thats not happening, So ill take the leave like stated. Wasting 2 months on a story for it to be ruined by an OOC event is what the "Problem" is. I used to enjoy my time here, Not so much now. +1

[Roland]

There is no need to be upset.

Events IC are always remembered by characters (aside for NLR situations), even if someone gets KoSed. I was recently a witness of a mass KoS (which is sure more immersion breaking than metagaming) and everyone just moved on and RPed with consideration to the situation. We've never erased peoples memory due to things like that and I don't think it's appropriate to start now. If you wish, you can make your character forget or even pretend that you weren't there at that time, it's as simple as that. But do not force or demand erasing memory for everyone involved because you believe metagaming caused a situation to happen, especially if there isn't even a report about it.