RP1: Gear over RP, attempted RDM, NVFL, myshkino Tents

[Spartan]

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 14:30

Your in game name: Vera Cernik

Names of allies involved: Wolves and Friends

Name of suspect/s: Jack Cross

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): N/A

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): maybe allies

Detailed description of the events:

I was shooting some zombies at myshkino tents when the suspect shows up. We RPed for less then a minute but he kept bandit shuffling and kept walking away to loot while we had a conversation. My char got annoyed and the 4th time he walked away to loot I called him rude. He came back and got hostile, at that point my allies were already on their way to my location. one point he initiated and I called it out on TS, my allies were close but no within 500 meters yet. I raised my hands and muted myself on TS. He demanded me to drop all my stuff. I dropped my weapons and complied to every demand. He looked through my gear and wanted me to walk away. I started to buy time but he looked through my gear and wasnt intrested in RP. He told me to walk to the tent and didnt contiue on the rp i tried to provide. I walked to then tent and he started sprinting (gear over RP). I turn around and sprint after him and follow him into the woods with a infected chasing me. I did not have a gun in my hands and kept telling my allies my location (at least i tried with trees everywhere..). He spots me and opens fire at me while i did not have a gun out. Nor did he told me to not follow him (attempted RDM). I zigzag and raise my hands behind a tree in the hope he will provide some RP this time. He kept cutting off my attempts to RP with him wanting to leave. I kept buying time and trying to get some RP out of him. He tied me up and I muted myself on TS again. I kept trying to RP but he was just focussed on leaving. at that point 2 or 3 of my allies suprise and initiate on him. Instead of complying to 2/3 guys with big guns who suprised him, he started to zigzag and fire. Of course he got gunned down quickly (nvfl)

[Stagsview]

Calling in Jack Cross to give his PoV on the situation:

Logs:

13:44:48 | "Mason Held SHOT Jack Cross by AK74 into Chest."
13:44:48 | "Jack Cross STATUS S::2000 B::3000 H::4200 HP::0."
13:44:51 | "Jack Cross STARTS BLEEDING."
13:45:13 | "Player Jack Cross has fallen into unconsciousness."
13:50:51 | "Jack Cross STARTS BLEEDING."
13:52:05 | "Jack Cross STOPS BLEEDING."
13:56:46 | "Jack CrossSTARTS BLEEDING."
13:59:26 | "Jack Cross STOPS BLEEDING."

Chat logs:

13:43:21 | Chat("Jack Cross": //PRESS CTRL AND a AND d FAST

13:31:03 | Chat("Vera Cernik": hey
13:31:06 | Chat("Vera Cernik": im talking to you
13:31:40 | Chat("Vera Cernik": jeez you are rude
13:32:01 | Chat("Vera Cernik": why do you keep walking away
13:32:04 | Chat("Vera Cernik": yes
13:32:07 | Chat("Vera Cernik": why?
13:32:15 | Chat("Vera Cernik": i am?
13:32:24 | Chat("Vera Cernik": you annoy me by walking away the whol;e time
13:32:28 | Chat("Vera Cernik": while we talk
13:32:35 | Chat("Vera Cernik": personal space
13:32:40 | Chat("Vera Cernik": and why are you dancing around?
13:32:48 | Chat("Vera Cernik": yes
13:32:53 | Chat("Vera Cernik"): makes me nervous
13:33:00 | Chat("Vera Cernik": oh wauw
13:33:03 | Chat("Vera Cernik": what?
13:33:10 | Chat("Vera Cernik": okay
13:33:14 | Chat("Vera Cernik": what exacxtly?
13:33:25 | Chat("Vera Cernik": okay, i will lower my hands for that okay?
13:33:35 | Chat("Vera Cernik": both?
13:33:56 | Chat("Vera Cernik": where?
13:33:59 | Chat("Vera Cernik": okay
13:34:04 | Chat("Vera Cernik": okay calm down
13:34:11 | Chat("Vera Cernik": why are you doing this?
13:34:26 | Chat("Vera Cernik": what?
13:34:38 | Chat("Vera Cernik": okay
13:34:47 | Chat("Vera Cernik": erm?
13:34:49 | Chat("Vera Cernik": where?
13:34:53 | Chat("Vera Cernik": are you comming aswell?
13:35:05 | Chat("Vera Cernik": so you rob me
13:35:08 | Chat("Vera Cernik": and go away?
13:35:16 | Chat("Vera Cernik": hello?
13:35:26 | Chat("Vera Cernik": hello?!

[Wendsill]

Jack Cross has been tembanned due to not been online on the forums in a long time. The tempban will be lifted once the accused has given his POV.

[Guest Jerricho]

Hi guys,

I agree there was not much RP involve in our case because i get very annoyed by people not using a mike on a dedicated RP server in a game like Dayz; i find this very immersion breaking so i just prefer to break contact and be on my way.

I wanted to leave the area but from Vera's messages i deducted that this character is looking for troubles so i decided to disarm Vera Cernik and move up in the woods.

Vera followed me in the woods and i took 2 shots, not at Cernik, but at the zoombie following her.

When her friends showed up i run towards a tree to take cover since he was shooting towards us yelling "hands up" but giving me no chance to surrender; as you can see in the logs, if you check, Vera Cernik got killed before Jack Cross was killed by her friends because her team rushed the woods shooting at first sight of players getting Vera caught in the crossfire - at this point is clear that they would gun me down so i had to take cover first, regarding nvfl rule

[Ark]

Jack Cross your temp ban has been lifted. Please keep an eye on this report in case we have further questions.

[Oisin]

Jackson Andrews POV :

I was hunting around Rogovo area when Spartan said there was a guy bandit dancing at myshkino tents and we should start heading his way, around 3 minutes later he was initiated on and muted, when I was just outside myshkino he then unmuted and told us the guy headed west into the forest, after telling Spartan to follow the guy we arrive and the guy starts shooting at Spartan, we get a new rough idea of where the location was then Spartan muted as he put his hands up again, Me and Slash find the guy and hide for a second to get breath back, We then run up and reinitiate both pointing weapons, he then runs around in a circle and begins spraying at us whilst running down the hill, me and slash chase and Spartan breaks out of his cuffs, the guy then stops behind a tree and starts shooting at Slash, I shot twice and hit him once in the chest and he went down. I am unsure if he respawned or Slash killed him.

I also don't have any video evidence, wont be posting further unless asked by staff

[Ellie]

Does anyone have any video evidence regarding the situation? If so please provide it at your earliest convenience.

[Spartan]

Chat logs:

13:31:03 | Chat("Vera Cernik": hey
13:31:06 | Chat("Vera Cernik": im talking to you
13:31:40 | Chat("Vera Cernik": jeez you are rude
13:32:01 | Chat("Vera Cernik": why do you keep walking away
13:32:04 | Chat("Vera Cernik": yes
13:32:07 | Chat("Vera Cernik": why?
13:32:15 | Chat("Vera Cernik": i am?
13:32:24 | Chat("Vera Cernik": you annoy me by walking away the whol;e time
13:32:28 | Chat("Vera Cernik": while we talk
13:32:35 | Chat("Vera Cernik": personal space
13:32:40 | Chat("Vera Cernik": and why are you dancing around?
13:32:48 | Chat("Vera Cernik": yes
13:32:53 | Chat("Vera Cernik"): makes me nervous
13:33:00 | Chat("Vera Cernik": oh wauw
13:33:03 | Chat("Vera Cernik": what?
13:33:10 | Chat("Vera Cernik": okay
13:33:14 | Chat("Vera Cernik": what exacxtly?
13:33:25 | Chat("Vera Cernik": okay, i will lower my hands for that okay?
13:33:35 | Chat("Vera Cernik": both?
13:33:56 | Chat("Vera Cernik": where?
13:33:59 | Chat("Vera Cernik": okay
13:34:04 | Chat("Vera Cernik": okay calm down
13:34:11 | Chat("Vera Cernik": why are you doing this?
13:34:26 | Chat("Vera Cernik": what?
13:34:38 | Chat("Vera Cernik": okay
13:34:47 | Chat("Vera Cernik": erm?
13:34:49 | Chat("Vera Cernik": where?
13:34:53 | Chat("Vera Cernik": are you comming aswell?
13:35:05 | Chat("Vera Cernik": so you rob me
13:35:08 | Chat("Vera Cernik": and go away?
13:35:16 | Chat("Vera Cernik": hello?
13:35:26 | Chat("Vera Cernik": hello?!

just to clarify, using the above chat logs:

Suspect Initiates at 13:33:00 | Chat("Vera Cernik": oh wauw

Suspect leaves at 13:34:53 | Chat("Vera Cernik": are you comming aswell?

Forgot something in my OP:

When my allies Initiate, I laid on the ground to not get shot in the crossfire and wiggle out of my ductape.

Allies just confirmed that they didnt record either, so no video evidence from our side.

[Slash]

Mason Held's POV:

We heard from Vera that she met someone sketchy at Myshkino tents. I decided to change my direction to go and help her out before anything happened. While I was walking into the direction of Myshkino tents I hear Vera telling me on the radio that she just was robbed by Jack and that we should go and help her. I meet up with Jackson Andrews (ZeroTP) and we both go in the direction Vera told us to go to. Vera tells us that he is shooting at her and he will probably re-initiate. While running up to the direction we lost connection with Vera so we decided to head to the last point of direction she gave us. I spot Jack and Vera. I run up to Jack and initiate on him. As soon as I initiate and demand him to put his hands up he started running and zigzagging down the hill. We decide to shoot him as he didn't comply to our demands. After a short firefight we eventually kill the OP.

One thing I would like to point out.

The OP stated that we killed Vera before we killed him and that we rushed in guns blazing.

This statement is false as we never shot Vera and she was never killed. We didn't run in guns blazing but we initiated on the OP and only started shooting when he showed non-compliance by running down the hill instead of putting his hands in the air. 

I will not post unless asked by staff. I don't have any video evidence unfortunately.

[Ellie]

-

So you receive their initiation and decided to run instead of complying?

[Guest Jerricho]

-

So you receive their initiation and decided to run instead of complying?

At least one of them started shooting as soon as he arrived and while he was shooting towards me he said something like "hands up", at that moment i've seen Vera going down so i assumed she died, being shot by one of them, so i tried to take cover. I wanted to surrender but i had no time to do it.

[Spartan]

-

So you receive their initiation and decided to run instead of complying?

At least one of them started shooting as soon as he arrived and while he was shooting towards me he said something like "hands up", at that moment i've seen Vera going down so i assumed she died, being shot by one of them, so i tried to take cover. I wanted to surrender but i had no time to do it.

I duck to the ground when I heard the initiation. When i was on the ground I saw you zigzag and then my allies started shooting. 

If they shot while screaming I would have been dead because i was in the line of fire.

They opened fire the moment you decided to not comply to the initiation. You say you wanted to surrender and didnt had the time, You had the time twice; 1. when they initiated, 2. when you were behind the tree and fired back instead of surrendering. so this statement is false.

If you wanted to surrender you should have done it. And if my allies shot you then you could have filed a report instead of not valueing your life like what you did now by zigzagging away  from 2/3 people who had the element of suprise.

I honestly don't really care about the nvfl, my point in this report is that you understand that a robbery of 1:30 minutes with very less roleplay is unacceptable on a roleplay server.

[Kanen]

Jack Cross please could we get a more detailed PoV of the situation that happened. You have 24 hours to respond.

[Guest Jerricho]

Jack Cross please could we get a more detailed PoV of the situation that happened. You have 24 hours to respond.

Just to clear things out, Vera and Jack had 3 encounters in 10-15 minutes. 

First we met outside Sosnovka where i had the perfect opportunity to rob Vera but i think i made it very clear that robbery was not my intention, i even asked Vera if she needs any supplies and then i left towards the tents; as i stated before, i kept the interaction/RPing to a minimum since Spartan was not using a mic - i totally understand why now, since he wants to RP a female character - but in game, on a dedicated RP server, using chat as means of communication is a problem for me, i find this very immersion breaking and i honestly consider that every one doing it doesn't care much about RP - so i went back on my way to the military tents.

While i was looting the tents (5-10 minutes later) i heard someone shooting a pistol so i went to see what is happening; someone was shooting zombies - i made contact, i politely asked that character to lower the weapon (not to drop it, or raise hands) and i realised that was the same character i just encountered - Vera - a character i cannot properly communicate with, but i wanted to ignore her and keep looting around - at this point Vera was just obnoxious (definitely looking for problems from my point of view) so i decided to disarm her. I raised my gun and asked her to drop the backpack, raise hands and move towards a tent; i took her pistol and the mags with the sole purpose of disarming her, since, from my perspective, that was just an obnoxious character that will try sooner or later try to bait a shot or to get me killed somehow. 

Another detail worth mentioning is that my character was completely geared and Vera was almost a freshspawn (only had a small improvised backpack and a glock) so there was no point in robbing her.

After i disarmed Vera i went NW, up the hill, where i can get a vantage point over the area where i left her, because even if i can't properly interact with such a character, i didn't what to leave someone defenceless on a military area.  

I arrived at the point i where was trying to get to on the hill (NW of the tents) and i looked down, towards the military area when i've seen Vera climbing up the hill with a zombie on her tail.

Now how is that for 'value of life' - pursuing someone the kept you at gun point, threatening to kill you, into the woods, being totally unarmed (personally i consider that this is showing way less value for life that what i was accused of).

Someone previously stated that i was shooting at/towards Vera in the woods - which is not true. I only fired 2 bullets when Vera was climbing towards me, both bullets being fired at the zombie chasing her. After that, i restrained Vera and her 'team' arrives there.

I don't know how many people arrived there and i haven't seen any of them, from my perspective, at some point (when they arrived) they just started shooting. I did heard someone saying "Hands up" but that DID NOT happened before the shooting.

When the shooting started i've seen Vera going down - that is why i said before that she was killed; also my character got hit getting a blurred vision, not being able to see anyone or anything.

Knowing that the attackers gunned down even the hostage (knowledge of that time) i had to take cover so i tried to get behind a tree. I don't care if there is a single attacker or 20 - i would surrender if i would have the chance since we all play under the same rules of engagement and i expect everyone to follow those rules.

I fired my weapon on a random direction hoping that the attacker will take my action as suppressing fire and i would have the chance to get some kind of cover from where we can discuss my surrender - that was not the case since from the rain of bullets i got hit again and i was killed.

Between their arrival and my character's death only seconds passed, so at that point i had no idea if the attackers are Vera's friends or a different group taking advantage of the situation and my surrender didn't seem to be an option especially after i've seen Vera dying (again...knowledge at that time).

From my perspective i was forced to run towards cover and to disarm Vera; i never had a chance to surrender and if Vera indeed proned and not dyed as i initially thought, then he did it because he was warned on TS not because he heard the other guys initiating RP.

I don't see the point of this report since you guys clearly forcied my character towards an armed conflict. I honestly consider that my only mistake was that i stayed around too long allowing that team to find me and gun me down even when i was sure Spartan (Vera) will try to get me killed (on our second encounter) somehow.

I'm 100% sure that this whole thing could've been a great DayZ experience for all all of us if my character survived a little longer and if i had a chance to surrender to those guys - but things were a bit different and i was accused of NVFL by a character who pursued her armed attacker into the woods under the reason that "i didn't told her not to follow me" (which violates the NVFL rule at a whole new level from my perspective) and Spartan's team consider that saying 'Hands up' between bullets is proper initiation.

I'm accused of RDM for saving Vera's live from a zombie, which may be a mislead conclusion or a desperate try to find something against me, but just to make things clear: on the first encounter Vera didn't even seen me approaching until i tried to engage in a conversation (before i realised he is using chat); on the second encounter i had a clear angle on Vera when she was shooting zombies at the tents and even after that when i disarmed her;

and on the third encounter (in the woods) i had a vantage point over her when she was climbing the hill - so i had 4 opportunities to RDM Vera before i shot the zombie following her - but that is clearly not something i would do. 

-User was warned for this post-

[Spartan]

Just to clear things out, Vera and Jack had 3 encounters in 10-15 minutes.

First we met outside Sosnovka where i had the perfect opportunity to rob Vera but i think i made it very clear that robbery was not my intention, i even asked Vera if she needs any supplies and then i left towards the tents; as i stated before, i kept the interaction/RPing to a minimum since Spartan was not using a mic - i totally understand why now, since he wants to RP a female character - but in game, on a dedicated RP server, using chat as means of communication is a problem for me, i find this very immersion breaking and i honestly consider that every one doing it doesn't care much about RP - so i went back on my way to the military tents.

While i was looting the tents (5-10 minutes later) i heard someone shooting a pistol so i went to see what is happening; someone was shooting zombies - i made contact, i politely asked that character to lower the weapon (not to drop it, or raise hands) and i realised that was the same character i just encountered - Vera - a character i cannot properly communicate with, but i wanted to ignore her and keep looting around [Avoiding RP]- at this point Vera was just obnoxious [i was just looking for RP from a guy who kept running away...](definitely looking for problems from my point of view) so i decided to disarm her. I raised my gun and asked her to drop the backpack, raise hands and move towards a tent; i took her pistol and the mags with the sole purpose of disarming her, since, from my perspective, that was just an obnoxious character that will try sooner or later try to bait a shot or to get me killed somehow. [why did you swapped our pistols and left me a pistol with a mag then?..]

Another detail worth mentioning is that my character was completely geared and Vera was almost a freshspawn (only had a small improvised backpack and a glock) so there was no point in robbing her. [the point of robbing someone is to get/provide hostil RP. Not gear, my character is not a military person, thats why she wears civi clothing]

After i disarmed Vera i went NW, up the hill, where i can get a vantage point over the area where i left her, because even if i can't properly interact with such a character, i didn't what to leave someone defenceless on a military area.  

I arrived at the point i where was trying to get to on the hill (NW of the tents) and i looked down, towards the military area when i've seen Vera climbing up the hill with a zombie on her tail.

Now how is that for 'value of life' - pursuing someone the kept you at gun point, threatening to kill you, into the woods, being totally unarmed [you left me a pistol with a mag](personally i consider that this is showing way less value for life that what i was accused of). [i was trying to get RP from you...]

Someone previously stated that i was shooting at/towards Vera in the woods - which is not true. I only fired 2 bullets when Vera was climbing towards me, both bullets being fired at the zombie chasing her. [my mistake, thought those bullets were ment for me. dropping the attempted RDM] After that, i restrained Vera and her 'team' arrives there.

I don't know how many people arrived there and i haven't seen any of them, from my perspective, at some point (when they arrived) they just started shooting. I did heard someone saying "Hands up" but that DID NOT happened before the shooting. [so a gamemaster did not initiate by the rules?...also, you did not spot him. if he was going to shoot you he would have taken the shot when you stood still for a clean headshot but he initiated because he and my other allies chose RP over killing]

When the shooting started i've seen Vera going down - that is why i said before that she was killed; also my character got hit getting a blurred vision, not being able to see anyone or anything.

Knowing that the attackers gunned down even the hostage (knowledge of that time) i had to take cover so i tried to get behind a tree. I don't care if there is a single attacker or 20 [if you dont know how many hostiles there are? why risk your life by not complying then?] - i would surrender if i would have the chance since we all play under the same rules of engagement and i expect everyone to follow those rules.

I fired my weapon on a random direction hoping that the attacker will take my action as suppressing fire and i would have the chance to get some kind of cover from where we can discuss my surrender - that was not the case since from the rain of bullets i got hit again and i was killed.

Between their arrival and my character's death only seconds passed, so at that point i had no idea if the attackers are Vera's friends or a different group taking advantage of the situation and my surrender didn't seem to be an option especially after i've seen Vera dying (again...knowledge at that time).

From my perspective i was forced to run towards cover and to disarm Vera; i never had a chance to surrender and if Vera indeed proned and not dyed as i initially thought, then he did it because he was warned on TS [my TS was muted otherwise I was not able to try to rp with you over the noise of them talking. the second I heard Slash scream I pressed "z" to lay down. Thats why I got not hit because I layed down in the time between the initiation and the shots. If they started to shoot they would have hit me because I was in the line of fire.] not because he heard the other guys initiating RP.

I don't see the point of this report since you guys clearly forcied my character towards an armed conflict. [i didnt force you to initiate on me... you chose to initiate on me] I honestly consider that my only mistake was that i stayed around too long [too long?... your mistake was that you stayed around too short in the first place. If you would have initiated and brought me somewhere else to RP with me this would not have happend. Instead you initiate and run away after 1:30 min... thats not too long, thats too short.. Later up on the hill, you kept trying to go away. I did everything to keep you to RP with me and buy time that my allies can find you in the hope you would comply to RP with you. its a shame you decided to not comply otherwise we could have actually RPed]allowing that team to find me and gun me down even when i was sure Spartan (Vera) will try to get me killed (on our second encounter) somehow.

I'm 100% sure that this whole thing could've been a great DayZ experience for all all of us if my character survived a little longer and if i had a chance to surrender to those guys [You had... when they initiated and you started to zigzag..] - but things were a bit different and i was accused of NVFL by a character who pursued her armed attacker into the woods under the reason that "i didn't told her not to follow me" (which violates the NVFL rule at a whole new level from my perspective)[tried to get some rp..] and Spartan's team consider that saying 'Hands up' between bullets is proper initiation.

I'm accused of RDM for saving Vera's live from a zombie, which may be a mislead conclusion or a desperate try to find something against me, but just to make things clear: on the first encounter Vera didn't even seen me approaching until i tried to engage in a conversation (before i realised he is using chat)[iF you would have shot that would have been KoS and not RDM..]; on the second encounter i had a clear angle on Vera when she was shooting zombies at the tents [iF you would have shot that would have been KoS and not RDM..] and even after that when i disarmed her;

and on the third encounter (in the woods) i had a vantage point over her when she was climbing the hill - so i had 4 opportunities to RDM Vera before i shot the zombie following her - but that is clearly not something i would do. 

 -snip-

I replied in Red above ^

I'm sorry but I find the lack of respect you have towards TextRPers highly offensive and disturbing. TextRPers have the same goal as you, they are on this server to RP. If people ignore textRPers they would not get the RP were this server stands for. If textRP would be bad or uncomfortable to RP with it would not be allowed. but it is, it is allowed and if you give textRPers a chance they can amaze you. The best RPers I met use text to RP. 

I pointed everything out I wanted to point out to you and to staff. I will refrain from posting unless staff has more questions.

[Manic]

Verdict:

Jack Cross: BadRP - Guilty

---

Reason:

After reviewing the evidence we as staff we have decided that due to the lack of evidence we can not prove the NVFL. However due to the POVs provided we can come to the following conclusion. 

Jack Cross you are found guilty of BadRP. We are going to break this down in order to explain why we have come to this conclusion. 

In your first POV you state the following. 

From your very first POV you agree that there wasn't very much RP. Stating that you get annoyed with people who do not communicate in game with a microphone. We will address that issue with you later. You state that you and the OP had three encounters in the span of 15-20 minutes. The first encounter you state that you spoke to her and offered her some supplies before leaving to head towards the tents. You then specify that you gave minimum RP due to the simple fact that the OP used text in order to communicate as seen in your post here:

While looting you then hear someone shooting a pistol and proceed to check it out to find out that it was someone clearing out zombies. Making contact you asked them to lower their weapon and realized it was the same person as before and a person you feel you can not communicate with. You then go on to say:

. 

So instead of excusing yourself you find that the character is being obnoxious and decide to disarm her and initiating by raising your gun and asking her to drop her backpack, raise her arms and move towards a tent. The final interaction lasted 1 minute 30 seconds and even though you took her gun and mag with the purpose of disarming her, even if you gave her back a pistol without a mag, you still robbed her, you did not need to disarm the OP you chose to do that yourself. You left her in an area where she was later chased by a zombie to which in your POV you took care of and then restrained the OP before her friends came to initially gun you down. You state your only mistake was staying too long. Throughout the report you have shown that you wanted nothing to do with the OP or the RP due to them not using a microphone to suit your immersion needs. 

---

Now we will address the poor attitude you have in this report. In your final POV, which you have already been warned for, we see how closed mind you are when it comes to text RPers on our servers. The manner in which you address every interaction you've had with the OP being immersion breaking based on the fact they are playing a female character and would need to text RP has left much to be desired. You seem to have a rather large distaste for everyone who has to/chooses to use text RP and find that you do not need to roleplay with them because you can't communicate with them. We would like to give you a warning for the future. People are not here to just entertain you. You in turn need to give the best RP you can in every situation. That is the goal of this community. Just because someone does not roleplay in a manner that suits your needs does not mean you are allowed to offer them no roleplay in return. 

If you find yourself not enjoying a roleplay situation then excuse yourself. Don't get yourself more involved by initiating and robbing an individual. We hope that your attitude towards those that text RP will change in the future as we feel it's going to hinder your experience here on our servers. We would like to you keep an open mind as there are some really great text RPers among our community and we feel you would miss out on a roleplay experience due to your current views. 

With the above stated, the following applies

---

Outcome:

Jack Cross:  BadRP - 5 Day Ban + 1 Banstrike