Community staff channels / why i think it should be gone and more

[Shiro]

After a long think i have dediced to make a post about this. 

This is mainly because of a feeling i am getting of seeing always a group of staff in a teamspeak channel aswell i am a ex community helper i know a tiny bit how it works. 

In my personal vision i believe that when a member of staff applies as a helper by either a community helper , mod, admin or gamemaster. You give your energy and service towards the community. You legitly want to help the community build out and be a honest example. 

I find that you guys are doing great in many ways, and i am extreemly gratefull that you sacrifice your time and energy to this community, with recieving nothing then beans. But i fail to understand why you guys are always hidding in a teamspeak channel with each other. 

I feel it is not that time that you guys should be the example by leading this community forward, getting out of the channels where you all baracaded yourself in. Ofcourse i understand that you all as staff like each other and having the same goals and giving service brings bonding and friendship among each other. 

But please do not forget we are all a community. I feel that it gives a great lenght of division among the community. 

I would like to see more unity among each other. Reports and vision discussion about the community is great, but we are living in the here and now.

You guys are handpicked because you are all a spark in this community, and i know a lot of you have even inspired me to achieve things. But i would like to see that you all be that example more for the community by making groups, taking initiative talking to new members, old members and having fun.

When i was young, about 10 years ago i used to run a world of warcraft clan. It was great, I had a bunch of officers and we organised raids with each other. Dungeon groups and we went recruiting together and tought of many new inspiring things.  I would love to see more from you guys.

But i really do understand you do a lot, and you have a real life, just like me. 

But damn! it is such a waist of community leaders / admins / community helper energy by only leaving them in such a channel and doing what the do, while the can unite the server, and lead by example.

I do apologies for my english and if the thread / message looks a bit messy,

I hope you do all understand it and read this message with open heart and mind. And please also know, i love you all <3

Shiro

[Conor]

We don't just sit in the channels having a chat. We do work. Whilst working, there are times where I do not want to be interrupted.

I hope this clears up your confusion about why we have Staff only channels in TeamSpeak.

[Guest turbox9]

You think the staff is dying on this shit? That's what I've taken from this.

[Shiro]

We don't just sit in the channels having a chat. We do work. Whilst working, there are times where I do not want to be interrupted.

I hope this clears up your confusion about why we have Staff only channels in TeamSpeak.

Yeah i fully understand that you work, but i think you should delicate your time more and focus on uniting the community then by sitting in a locked teamspeak channel all the time.

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You think the staff is dying on this shit? That's what I've taken from this.

could you elaborate on that please

[Coreena]

Well, I have never been a part of staff however, I believe I can make an assumption regarding why they are always up there: 

Community helpers: 

It helps to be right next to the channel where community members go to when they ask for help. This allows a smooth system of helping people as quickly as possible. Most community helpers have their set time for themselves when they wish to play, and when they wish to do their 'job.' I've seen plenty of community helpers hanging out with other community members. Not to mention, I'm sure most of them are goal orientated, so of course they are going to want to do as much of their job as possible so that they could potentially get a promotion. 

Moderators/GameMasters/Admins/Loremasters: 

I can say the same thing for every other staff position. They have their set job, and in order to have a smooth flow of teamwork without giving information out that is only for staff eyes, they stay in a channel among themselves when they need to. At the end of the day, they choose when they would like to go down and spend time with the rest of the community and get in game, and when they would like to do their work. 

Of course we would like to spend more time with our favorite staff members and have long discussions with them, but they honestly choose what they would like to do at what time...

I also haven't seen much of a problem with how much time staff members spend out of the staff channels. I'm sure several others can agree with me on this. Everyone has responsibilities, and everyone has their free time.

[AndreyQ]

Yeah...no.

If you want to talk to staff you could sit in the newcomer's TS room. Some staff members go there from time to time.

[Guest]

Yeah i fully understand that you work, but i think you should delicate your time more and focus on uniting the community then by sitting in a locked teamspeak channel all the time.

The staff give enough of their time, they do this for free, not as a job.

[Shiro]

Yeah...no.

If you want to talk to staff you could sit in the newcomer's TS room. Some staff members go there from time to time.

Not my point really..

Listen folks, i am just trying to make a suggestion here, no need to have a go with me.

[Husky]

Staff is just like every other community member except for the fact that they have some other obligations that regular members don't have, most staff members are also friends and just like you and your friends they like to have a private TS channel where they can do work, RP or just talk like, well regular members, and if you have a "desire" to talk to either of them all you gotta do is throw them a poke and i'm sure they'll gladly hop down and chat with you.

I see no reason to remove them.

[Guest K-Jack]

We don't just sit in the channels having a chat. 

Ehhh.... no.

10% of the time in staff channels is spent doing work, the rest of the times it's either chatting or playing games with other staff members or ex staff.

I dont think staff should be forced to hang out with the rest of the community if they dont want to, but lets not pretend you guys sit in staff channels doing work 95% of the time.

[Terra]

Erm. Just no. You should know how it works and therefore i find your suggestion really odd.

[Luca]

They do spend time with community members very often. I always have chats on teamspeak with my friends who are in staff everyday.

[Shiro]

We don't just sit in the channels having a chat. 

Ehhh.... no.

10% of the time in staff channels is spent doing work, the rest of the times it's either chatting or playing games with other staff members or ex staff.

I dont think staff should be forced to hang out with the rest of the community if they dont want to, but lets not pretend you guys sit in staff channels doing work 95% of the time.

Thank you, i really felt left out here. Again not trying to have a go with staff, but why are you a community helper if you dont want to be a part of the community. it just gives division. This is my only point really, and just giving this a small suggestion. 

If you want to keep doing what you are doing fine! no problem,

[AndreyQ]

Ehhh.... no.

10% of the time in staff channels is spent doing work, the rest of the times it's either chatting or playing games with other staff members or ex staff.

I dont think staff should be forced to hang out with the rest of the community if they dont want to, but lets not pretend you guys sit in staff channels doing work 95% of the time.

First it is would be 90%

Second, I used to sit 3 hours of doing staff work, from answering truck related questions all morning to doing reports, so yeah there are staff members that do work a lot, but just like any another human being they need some banter from time to time.

[Hatch]

We don't just sit in the channels having a chat. 

Ehhh.... no.

10% of the time in staff channels is spent doing work, the rest of the times it's either chatting or playing games with other staff members or ex staff.

I dont think staff should be forced to hang out with the rest of the community if they dont want to, but lets not pretend you guys sit in staff channels doing work 95% of the time.

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[Conor]

We don't just sit in the channels having a chat. 

Ehhh.... no.

10% of the time in staff channels is spent doing work, the rest of the times it's either chatting or playing games with other staff members or ex staff.

I dont think staff should be forced to hang out with the rest of the community if they dont want to, but lets not pretend you guys sit in staff channels doing work 95% of the time.

K-Jack, as a former member of staff you should know how it works. A lot of things have changed since you left staff. You did only manage to reach the rank of moderator so I will give you the benefit of the doubt as you might not have been present during work/ discussions in Teamspeak with Gamemasters and/or Admins regarding Gamemaster and/or Admin tasks.

The staff channels are used for socialising among staff, yes however they are also used for the majority of staff work, a lot more than 10%.

[Shiro]

We don't just sit in the channels having a chat. 

Ehhh.... no.

10% of the time in staff channels is spent doing work, the rest of the times it's either chatting or playing games with other staff members or ex staff.

I dont think staff should be forced to hang out with the rest of the community if they dont want to, but lets not pretend you guys sit in staff channels doing work 95% of the time.

K-Jack, as a former member of staff you should know how it works. A lot of things have changed since you left staff. You did only manage to reach the rank of moderator so I will give you the benefit of the doubt as you might not have been present during work/ discussions in Teamspeak with Gamemasters and/or Admins regarding Gamemaster and/or Admin tasks.

The staff channels are used for socialising among staff, yes however they are also used for the majority of staff work, a lot more than 10%.

letting go from that conor, i hope you do someting with the suggestion i gave you, but i think you wont

[Guest]

letting go from that conor, i hope you do someting with the suggestion i gave you, but i think you wont

They wont because it isn't a good suggestion.

[Hatch]

letting go from that conor, i hope you do someting with the suggestion i gave you, but i think you wont

They wont because it isn't a good suggestion.

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[Luca]

why are you a community helper if you dont want to be a part of the community. it just gives division.

I honestly find that a bit harsh to say. The CH's really do an amazing Job and every single one of them is a fantastic addition to staff and this community. They don't exclude themselves from others at all. If you want to have a chat with them just poke them to come have a chat. It takes two to make a move. I really don't see your point. They spend a lot of time with other community members or in the newcomer channel. 

As said above, just as other members they want to talk to their friends so they will sit in a private channel talking to them and also do work together.

[Shiro]

letting go from that conor, i hope you do someting with the suggestion i gave you, but i think you wont

They wont because it isn't a good suggestion.

I think the majority agree with you, but it is really hard for me to explain what i want to say to them. Instead you get echo fights among each other.

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why are you a community helper if you dont want to be a part of the community. it just gives division.

I honestly find that a bit harsh to say. The CH's really do an amazing Job and every single one of them is a fantastic addition to staff and this community. They don't exclude themselves from others at all. If you want to have a chat with them just poke them to come have a chat. It takes two to make a move. I really don't see your point. They spend a lot of time with other community members or in the newcomer channel. 

As said above, just as other members they want to talk to their friends so they will sit in a private channel talking to them and also do work together.

Community helper is overal community helper in the community. So by that i dont mean a orange person. It is a response from one of the above messages stated.

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letting go from that conor, i hope you do someting with the suggestion i gave you, but i think you wont

They wont because it isn't a good suggestion.

-Snip-

Hatch, could you do me a favor and leave the pictures out of here. Not trying to be salty but this is really not the right moment to post this kind of things.

[Brad]

People are doing their own thing,  I'm not going to hop around channel to channel making people feel uneasy that I just barged in.  We have the channels so people can look for us if needed.  There is no feasible way it would make sense to eliminate these.

Do we spend a lot of time in them.  Yes.  Is it all work?  No.  But creating a team that gels and works well together is also part of that.

Plus staff members do not stay in staff channels when rping, it just doesn't work that way.

[Hassan]

I don't really understand this suggestion, yes sometimes we're up in the helpdesk doing work or just chatting and waiting for people that need help but also a lot of the time we do socialize with the community.

You can find staff all the time in the newcomers channel, public rooms or just playing games with some of the community members. Obviously not everybody wants to go and talk to people and that's just a personal preference, but i'd say a lot of staff does a good amount of interaction with the community through TS.

I'm not sure if it's just your personal experiences where you haven't seen us around different channels? But I can tell you we do.

[Hatch]

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They wont because it isn't a good suggestion.

-Snip-

Hatch, could you do me a favor and leave the pictures out of here. Not trying to be salty but this is really not the right moment to post this kind of things.

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En pee

The staff channels are good for their main use, I can sorta agree with K-Jack as at times it can be like that. Hopefully things are changing like Conner has said

[StriderV]

Well... I don't usually call other people's ideas bad, but this is a bad one.