Time limit for reports to be posted

[Oryx]

I only have a second right now, so this will be short.

I think a time limit be implemented for reports to be posted after the suspected rulebreak. People improve their roleplay all the time and I feel it's unfair to punish someone for mistakes made more than a week ago.

I suggest that a report should be posted one week after an incident or not at all.

[Samaritan]

To be honest I think it is prudent to take your time and get staff advice before you make a report. Rushed tend not to end well. Putting a time limit may put pressure on people to rush reports and a rushed report never looks good.

[Volke]

I disagree, sometimes I sit on a report before I post it for up to a weeks time. However, I do think going into someone's stream or youtube history and finding minor rulebreaks is nothing else than saltiness. If I however experienced an incident, I may want to sit on the evidence for a week or two before I post it, to get a variety of responses & opinions and percolate on it to see if it bothers me in a few days. If it does, I will put a report up.

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I do think to add on though, the person should be asked why if it was over a week to post the report to dissuade notions of salt

[WongRP]

Hell yea.

[Oryx]

To be honest I think it is prudent to take your time and get staff advice before you make a report. Rushed tend not to end well. Putting a time limit may put pressure on people to rush reports and a rushed report never looks good.

Thanks for your input.

Do you really think a week is rushing it though? What about 2 then?

I think more harm than good comes from no time limit.

[Hellish]

Since its been clarified I will still say -1. I feel someone should be able to report whenever.

[WongRP]

Well I mean.. Within a week. Not after a week

[Oryx]

I suggest that a report should be posted one week after an incident or not at all.

-1 I could see a couple hours to a day but not a week, and even then I would just rather not have a limit.

Apologies. I was unclear. I meant within one week. After a week you can't.

[JohnnyThunders]

saltiness, percolate, notions of salt.

This post made me thirsty.

On topic - i voted no - i think the rule is fine as is.

[Foxi]

I think the maximum time allowed should be one week after the events took place.

The problem with waiting so long is that after awhile staff might have problems finding evidence in logs. The good thing about having time to post is that you can take your time to come up with evidence to support your claims, and make sure that the report you are making is worth posting. Sometimes people make mistakes, and in a situation where you are frustrated you might just need time to cool off and look at what happened from a level headed point of view.

[Pussy]

I disagree. While it does help to make a report right after the situation has taken place in order to keep it fresh in your mind, it is not necessary. It is every individuals right to make a report, regardless of when the offense took place. Every person in this community has that right, and is allowed to exercise it.

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The problem with waiting so long is that after awhile staff might have problems finding evidence in logs. 

While it's sweet to have that concern, it doesn't matter how long ago the event happened in the logs. That is on us to find, and if someone feels like a rule has been broken then that should never be a factor stopping them.

[MatthewFC]

I agree that, the older the event being reported is, the more eye-catching the report itself would be, but Staff notices this kind of thing and will react accordingly, they are not robots. If the rulebreak was legitimate, why shouldn't it be reported? Also, just a week is barely enough time to people that might feel inclined to check their own cases and see if its worth posting, and explore options like just chatting it out with the persons involved before posting the report. Its always good to wait until things cool off to chat things out...

As an example, there has been instances of Staff's attention being picked to a particular person's Youtube or Twitch channels, and correctly penalizing these people for disregard of roleplay, of the rules in general, and prioritizing entertainment (of themselves and/or their viewers) over anything else. Many of these recordings had a certain age to them, does that guarantee that the person has moved on from such childish endeavors?

Thus, this is an option I would like to remain open, as I have only seen it used against people that clearly were not being constructive within the community. If we allow for people to argue in their favor saying "but those recordings are over a week old, I have changed!", "you cannot penalize me for that because it's old", we are allowing people to go free over technicalities. Technicalities are BS.

This suggestion seems aimed at avoiding your own actions to be used against you in case you wrong a person that might feel inclined to bring those into light, should it be for petty vindictiveness or other, more legitimate reasons. My best advice: don't go around committing rulebreaks in the first place.

As an semi-related note, I see that some reports are waived legitimately but some others seem to be peer-pressured into not being made or continued all the time. If you have an archive of non-reported rulebreaks which might get used by people that you don't trust will keep their mouth shut (or maybe you wronged them again, wasting the last of their patience and understanding and showing you haven't changed your ways at all) I can hardly fault THEM over YOU.

[Foxi]

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While it's sweet to have that concern, it doesn't matter how long ago the event happened in the logs. That is on us to find, and if someone feels like a rule has been broken then that should never be a factor stopping them.

That's good to know, I just remember staff saying that awhile back.

[RedSky]

I disagree sitting on a report an checking up with staff is one of the smartest thing to do. Making a rushed report only ends in problems for the party reporting this

[Guest]

+1 for me, most reports are put up because of salt. I think a time limit before a report to put up is good. Personally I prefer to talk it out with the person on teamspeak when the salt dies down.

9 out of 10 times it can be resolved through TS, because 9 out of 10 times, it's always the same shit. Look at most of the reports. it waste a lot of the staff's time, when it get closes at the end of the day anyway. So just talk it out on Teamspeak if you still feel a rule was broken, file the report. Save the Staff some time. So this is a huge

+1 for me

[Oliv]

I can see the benefit of both, waiting and not waiting. Though I do believe that writting a report right after it happened can be detrimental as it is very easy to loose your cool, I can understand why you shouldnt wait too long.

For people that play every day, trying to remember the incident that happened may be very difficult to defend yourself. I could see this being taken on a case by case basis. Unfortunately, that leaves it up to the staffs discretion (not a bad thing, I just feel you guys have a lot of responsibility as it is).

[Conor]

This has been discussed several times in the past and the answer always seems to be no, which I agree on.

Whilst it has some benefits on paper, for me it has much greater disadvantages. Some of the main ones for me are internal staff related issues for when it comes to investigating reports.

Logs etc.

[Brad]

Considering there is currently an active report regarding this. This thread will be /closed.

Discussion can take place later if it is deemed needed.