Rules regarding smoke grenades

[Guest Mak]

Smoke grenades are coming with 0.59, I was wondering: will it be considered like a flashbang rule-wise? Will it be forbidden to use Without an initiation, although it's a non lethal object that doesn't cause damage and can be easily avoided?

[Guest Zenon]

Pretty good question. Obviously some people are going to throw it, wait a few seconds, and THEN initiate. On the other hand, a smoke grenade may simply be used as a signaling device.

[Kanen]

I would say personally as long as you have reason to use it then by all means use it. What I mean by this you could use it In character to distract zombies away from you, Try and get someone's attention who's far away from you or the obvious reason in an initiation to block someone's point of view when trying to attack them or make a run for it. Obviously with the rule being same as flash grenades we will have to wait for the Admins to decide upon that.

Obviously using them to troll or cause a bad roleplaying experience would not be acceptable.

[Cid]

Since smoke grenades aren't really harmful, what Kanen says makes most sense to me. As long as you have a reason to throw a smoke grenade that isn't trolly I would figure that you would be fine. Distracting zombies, obvious combat needs, maybe as a attention grabber as Kanen has already said. No need to throw a smoke grenade in the middle of a crowd or just throwing them to throw them. Personally, I share the same opinion as Kanen.

[Guest Mak]

I would say personally as long as you have reason to use it then by all means use it. What I mean by this you could use it In character to distract zombies away from you, Try and get someone's attention who's far away from you or the obvious reason in an initiation to block someone's point of view when trying to attack them or make a run for it. Obviously with the rule being same as smoke grenades we will have to wait for the Admins to decide upon that

Obviously using them to troll or cause a bad roleplaying experience would not be acceptable.

Yeah I was wondering more about the pre-initiation use of this item, just like you've said, it'd be useful to use to obstruct someone's view before you initiate.

Cheers.

[Dew]

I don't see why smoke grenades should even have a separate rule, they aren't lethal I believe so they shouldn't be worried about.

[Cid]

I don't see why smoke grenades should even have a separate rule, they aren't lethal I believe so they shouldn't be worried about.

This pretty much.  I feel like it just falls under common sense to not use a smoke grenade for trolling or general shenanigans.  Just use it for the reasons it's supposed to be used for.  Treat it the same as a flashbang, I suppose.  Not really lethal but it can have it's trolly uses.  Just don't use it for those reasons and you should be fine.

[Guest Mak]

I don't see why smoke grenades should even have a separate rule, they aren't lethal I believe so they shouldn't be worried about.

This pretty much.  I feel like it just falls under common sense to not use a smoke grenade for trolling or general shenanigans.  Just use it for the reasons it's supposed to be used for.  Treat it the same as a flashbang, I suppose.  Not really lethal but it can have it's trolly uses.  Just don't use it for those reasons and you should be fine.

I'm pretty positive that flashbanging someone without an initiation is considered RDM, but since I'm not sure I would like confirmation from a staff member.

[Jamie]

I think Kanen and Cid cleared it up well. If you're sitting in Green Mountain throwing random smoke grenades, this will be classed troll RP. You'd only really use them for the use they was designed for; Distracting zombies, blinding people in combat, making an escape in a combat scenario etc. 

Edit: Marking as unsolved. Need a more definite answer.

[Slash]

I think we shouldn't bind any rules to the Smoke Grenade. Because it has multiple uses, like for instance you can use it as a signal. The flashbang has one use and that is to blind people so it's logic that there is a rule for that item. But I see no reason why we should make a rule for the smoke grenades.

[Jester]

The smoke grenade has many uses and isn't harmful. I don't see any issue with throwing one in a non aggressive way. ( signals and such )

I do see people throwing one at a group of people and initiating on them from the cover of smoke but that is no different than being in a bush or peeking a corner.

But like any new update things could change if the use of new items requires a rule to regulate them if they are being abused.

[Terra]

Smoke grenades will be handled like the flash bang.

Meaning:

You cannot use them as an initiation - you have to initiate before you use it.

Do not use them to troll or just because you can use them - common sense- No trolling.

You can use them in a firefight to distract your enemies.

You can use them in a firefight to get away from your enemies (covering your way)

You can use them to make a signal for your friend(s).

@Mak

Does this answer your question?

[DarkSide]

Smoke grenades will be handled like the flash bang.

Meaning:

You cannot use them as an initiation - you have to initiate before you use it.

Do not use them to troll or just because you can use them - common sense- No trolling.

You can use them in a firefight to distract your enemies.

You can use them in a firefight to get away from your enemies (covering your way)

You can use them to make a signal for your friend(s).

@Mak

Does this answer your question?

So you're saying when you obtain a smoke grenade you cant just throw it to see what it does?

[Guest Callie]

So you're saying when you obtain a smoke grenade you cant just throw it to see what it does?

At Green Mountain? I'd say no.

In an area where it's not going to interrupt anyone's RP, I don't see an issue.

Use common sense as stated.

[SommerTheViking]

Smoke grenades are coming with 0.59, I was wondering: will it be considered like a flashbang rule-wise? Will it be forbidden to use Without an initiation, although it's a non lethal object that doesn't cause damage and can be easily avoided?

Just a friendly correction, the flashbang has been changed a little bit, it can now actually break your leg if it goes off literally next to you, so there is a change for it to cause damage to nearby persons

[Terra]

So you're saying when you obtain a smoke grenade you cant just throw it to see what it does?

You can throw it to see what it does, of course. When you are alone or with your friends and you wont discturb any RP going. So at GM, no you cannot, that´s pretty obvious, if you just want to throw it for the purpose of throwing - RP´ed out, that can be done if it fits the RP.

Let´s say I find one of these grenades and I am at GM. I could RP out that I will throw it away because I have never seen something like that before - throw it away - not in the middle of the people.

As I mentioned before - Common sense.

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[Guest Mak]

Smoke grenades will be handled like the flash bang.

Meaning:

You cannot use them as an initiation - you have to initiate before you use it.

Do not use them to troll or just because you can use them - common sense- No trolling.

You can use them in a firefight to distract your enemies.

You can use them in a firefight to get away from your enemies (covering your way)

You can use them to make a signal for your friend(s).

@Mak

Does this answer your question?

It does, thanks .

[Flapjack]

Glad you're satisfied with your answer.

Marking as /Solved.