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[S2 Pogorevka]: Possible NLR, NVFL


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  • Sapphire

Server and location:  S2, Pogorevka.

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME):  10-31-15

Daytime or Night-time:  Daytime

Your in game name:  Billy Huckabee

Names of allies involved:  Charlie Chaska, Clay Diamond, Rin Kamura, Eleanor Falk

Name/Skin of suspect/s:  Hunter Williams

Suspects weapon/s:  Fists. Balls of Steel.

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any):  None.

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot):  Video uploaded later...

Detailed description of the events:

We are following a suspicious man from GM to Pogorevka. On the way, Hunter turns up. I immediately start to Hostile RP with him. Long story short, he insults various people and gets punched out for it. When he wakes up, Eleanor and him box. Eleanor loses, I punch him once to avenge her, and someone mass initiates on the church.

Our dynamic group suspects the two randoms that are geared to be inside men. We initiate on them, and Hunter starts trying to punch me out. I kill him.

There were about five of us, and he was a complete fresh spawn. This is what would happen on a public server, not DayZRP...


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  • Sapphire

Charlie Chaska POV:

We're in Pogorevka, trying to find the identity of someone we believe to have broken NLR. We meet multiple people, one or two that may also have broken NLR. We suspect Hunter Williams of possibly being one of those people as he is a basically a freshspawn with a backpack. Anyways, there is a boxing match in the church, then a mass initiation. Nobody in the church complies. We suspect the two-three randoms in there with us to be inside men so we initiate on the two geared guys. They both comply, but Hunter runs around the church, punches Boston, then runs to me and punches me once. He is then killed after being sprayed at by at least 3 people.

It was NVFL because he had no weapon out, just his fists, there were at least 5 people in there with their guns raised, ready to fire, and he attempts to knock two of us out. He is then obviously killed after being so grossly outmatched and outgunned. Even if he had knocked one of us out, he'd have died soon after that.

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Hit Logs:

[spoiler=First death]

21:42:54 | Bryce White SHOT Hunter Williams by M4A1_Black into RightArm.
21:42:54 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::500 B::4500 H::4800 HP::0.
21:42:54 | Bryce White SHOT Hunter Williams by M4A1_Black into RightArm.
21:42:54 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::1000 B::4000 H::4600 HP::0.
21:42:54 | Bryce White SHOT Hunter Williams by M4A1_Black into RightArm.
21:42:54 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::1500 B::3500 H::4400 HP::0.
21:42:54 | Bryce White SHOT Hunter Williams by M4A1_Black into RightArm.
21:42:54 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::2000 B::3000 H::4200 HP::0.
21:42:54 | Bryce White SHOT Hunter Williams by M4A1_Black into leftarm.
21:42:54 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::2500 B::2500 H::4000 HP::0.
21:42:54 | Bryce White SHOT Hunter Williams by M4A1_Black into leftarm.
21:42:54 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::3000 B::2000 H::3800 HP::0.
21:42:54 | Bryce White SHOT Hunter Williams by M4A1_Black into leftarm.
21:42:54 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::3500 B::1500 H::3600 HP::0.
21:42:54 | Bryce White SHOT Hunter Williams by M4A1_Black into leftarm.
21:42:54 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::4000 B::1000 H::3400 HP::0.
21:42:54 | Bryce White SHOT Hunter Williams by M4A1_Black into Chest.
21:42:54 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::5000 B::0 H::3000 HP::0.
21:42:54 | Bryce White SHOT Hunter Williams by M4A1_Black into Chest.
21:42:54 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::5500 B::-500 H::2800 HP::0.

[spoiler=Second death]

22:48:50 | Eleanor Falk HIT Hunter Williams by fist into head.
22:48:50 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::2961.42 B::5000 H::4998 HP::0.
22:48:50 | Player Hunter Williams has fallen into unconsciousness.
22:48:50 | Hunter Williams has fallen into unconsciousness. HARD HIT Total S::6342.98
22:48:50 | Hunter Williams has fallen into unconsciousness. HARD HIT Total S::9822.85
22:48:50 | Eleanor Falk HIT Hunter Williams by fist into head.
22:48:50 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::9822.85 B::5000 H::4994 HP::0.
22:48:50 | Hunter Williams has fallen into unconsciousness. HARD HIT Total S::13370.2
22:51:15 | Hunter Williams HIT Eleanor Falk by fist into Chest.
22:51:15 | Hunter Williams HIT Eleanor Falk by fist into Chest.
22:51:18 | Eleanor Falk HIT Hunter Williams by fist into RightArm.
22:51:18 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::1210 B::5000 H::4990 HP::0.
22:51:21 | Hunter Williams HIT Eleanor Falk by fist into head.
22:51:24 | Eleanor Falk HIT Hunter Williams by fist into head.
22:51:24 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::2426.15 B::5000 H::4988 HP::0.
22:51:48 | Hunter Williams HIT Eleanor Falk by fist into head.
22:52:01 | Hunter Williams HIT Eleanor Falk by fist into head.
22:52:01 | Eleanor Falk HIT Hunter Williams by fist into head.
22:52:01 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::2088.54 B::5000 H::4986 HP::0.
22:52:40 | Billy Huckabee HIT Hunter Williams by fist into head.
22:52:40 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::2059.38 B::5000 H::4984 HP::0.
22:53:10 | Player Hunter Williams has fallen into unconsciousness.
22:53:10 | Hunter Williams has fallen into unconsciousness. HARD HIT Total S::5186.18
22:53:10 | Billy Huckabee HIT Hunter Williams by fist into head.
22:53:10 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::5186.18 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:09 | Hunter Williams HIT Billy Huckabee by fist into head.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:12 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into leftarm.
22:58:12 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::0 B::5000 H::4980 HP::0.
22:58:14 | Hunter Williams HIT Charlie Chaska by fist into head.
22:58:16 | Eleanor Falk SHOT Hunter Williams by AugSteyr into rightarm.
22:58:16 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::1000 B::4000 H::4580 HP::0.
22:58:17 | Hunter Williams STARTS BLEEDING.
22:58:19 | Rin Kamura SHOT Hunter Williams by MP5K into LeftLeg.
22:58:19 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::1940 B::3000 H::4180 HP::0.
22:58:20 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into Chest.
22:58:20 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::1880 B::2980 H::4180 HP::0.
22:58:20 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into Chest.
22:58:20 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::1880 B::2980 H::4180 HP::0.
22:58:20 | Billy Huckabee SHOT Hunter Williams by ShotgunIzh43 into Chest.
22:58:20 | Hunter Williams STATUS S::1880 B::2980 H::4180 HP::0.

Kill Logs:

21:42:54 | Hunter Williams was KILLED by Bryce White.
22:58:20 | Hunter Williams was KILLED by Billy Huckabee.

Calling Hunter Williams into this report.

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Guest Mr Boonie

Hunterwilliams, was a crazed physco who was mentally challenged, throughout the conversation between this group and us they acted friendly and fine, Eleanor then knocked me out for making stupid remarks after all my character is mentally challenged. I then wake up and challenge her to a fist fight, and I win. Boston then states "high five man that's awesome" then hits me in the face that for one gives me KoS rights to kill you however I see fit. Throughout the whole conversation I was wondering if yall were in a group and I asked if YOU Boston were their leader they said we don't know each other mate. therefore if i did attack you its not NVFL cause you guys aren't "together" I was under the presumption that you guys weren't together and I can knock YOU out for your gun once being shot at I turn on another individual caused by me being disorientated by gun fire. Also Devin was a group member of mine and he initiated without warning the rest of the group (me) I saw BostonDonut pointing his gun in Devin's general direction so for RP sake my love for Devin was strong he was a brother of mine I tried knocking Boston out for that sole reason.... to protect Devin. ALSO no one initiated on me... You guys stated you weren't together, one on is being lead by anyone, therefore there is no NVFL in play and I did what I had to do to make my friend survive and in the end he did.


Video will be posted in ETA 2-3 hours comment if time comes closer.

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  • Sapphire

-snip-


Video will be posted in ETA 2-3 hours comment if time comes closer.

In Boston's video, it looks VERY apparent that they were working together to hold up your friend.

-Seeing a longer video of the conversation would be benefical.  If you could upload that when you have a chance, that would be great.

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  • Sapphire

Hunterwilliams, was a crazed physco who was mentally challenged, throughout the conversation between this group and us they acted friendly and fine, Eleanor then knocked me out for making stupid remarks after all my character is mentally challenged. I then wake up and challenge her to a fist fight, and I win. Boston then states "high five man that's awesome" then hits me in the face that for one gives me KoS rights to kill you however I see fit. Throughout the whole conversation I was wondering if yall were in a group and I asked if YOU Boston were their leader they said we don't know each other mate. therefore if i did attack you its not NVFL cause you guys aren't "together" I was under the presumption that you guys weren't together and I can knock YOU out for your gun once being shot at I turn on another individual caused by me being disorientated by gun fire. Also Devin was a group member of mine and he initiated without warning the rest of the group (me) I saw BostonDonut pointing his gun in Devin's general direction so for RP sake my love for Devin was strong he was a brother of mine I tried knocking Boston out for that sole reason.... to protect Devin. ALSO no one initiated on me... You guys stated you weren't together, one on is being lead by anyone, therefore there is no NVFL in play and I did what I had to do to make my friend survive and in the end he did.


Video will be posted in ETA 2-3 hours comment if time comes closer.

You're not being reported for KoS or anything, you're being reported for breaking the New Life Rule. You died less than 90 minutes earlier and stayed within 1 kilometer of the mountain. Then, you were in a packed church with at least 5 people who had weapons raised. You tried to punch out 2 people, one which had a shotgun, and myself who had an M4. Both weapons would end you pretty quick especially in a close quarters situation like the church. It doesn't matter if your character is a psycho, you have to follow the rules like everyone else.

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Guest Mr Boonie

It was 950 kilometers away I was under the assumption I was far enough its 50 kilometer difference I thought I was WELL aways away from GM to meet with my friend at the church. I dont carry a range finder with me at all times my apologies. NO guns were raised at me till after the fact I tried to end my life to save my own friend, thats roleplay over ruleplay. Video will be up soon.

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  • Sapphire

I have decided to request this report closed, however, I want to make a few things clear to the accused:

1. This isn't the first time you've NVFL'd. We were in a separate report where you did almost the same thing with pretty much the same reasoning. There could have been further roleplay between us and you, but instead you tried to knock out some of us in an attempt to save the others. It was pretty obvious we were working together. Please take that into account in the event we RP in the future.

2. You can't make characters that break the rules. In all honesty, some behavior on your end could be construed as partially trolly. There have been numerous characters in the past that have "Military Experience" or some such backgrounds and people think that they can Rambo their way out of things and not get reported because "it's the character".

3. Please do me and everyone else a favor and re-read the rules, and get some clarification from Staff on TS. That's what they're for. To help you. There's guides on how to RP, guides on Rule Clarifications, discussion threads, etc. You can always PM a staff member (I'd recommend Brad, Kattica, or Spartan from personal experience) to get some clarifications. Usually what I do is make up some scenario and ask what would and wouldn't be allowed in the situation and so on.

With that said, Mr Boonie, I hope that you will take this as a learning experience and not have to suffer a ban.

Please close the report...

-Boston

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  • Sapphire

Very well.

/Closing as requested

Boonie, you should consider yourself lucky that BostonDonut chose to drop this report.  With the evidence being brought forth this would have been a NVFL scenario.

As he stated, take this opportunity to gain knowledge on this rule.  Check back through solved reports, and get better acquainted with how it works.

Please don't let his mercy be in vain.

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