Badrp

[Oryx]

Server and location:

S1, location unknown

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME):

10-31-2015, 24ish server time

Daytime or Night-time:

Nightime

Your in game name:

Luanne Galloway

Names of allies involved:

None

Name/Skin of suspect/s:

Joe Pete

Suspects weapon/s:

Unknown

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): 

none involved

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): 

It's on stream, time of incident is about 2:31:00

http://www.twitch.tv/sunshine_darling/v/23205537

Detailed description of the events:

Luanne was being tortured by various people. I was asked to permadeath my character and declined. I was told ooc that this was a waste of their 2 hours of rp. 

I feel that this exposes a fundamental misunderstanding of the point of rp. Honestly I don't know how to catagorize this offense. Badrp I guess? I felt that myself and some other players gave a lot to this scenario and this negatized my experience enough to be worth a report. 

On a side note, my computer says negatizing isn't a word, but it should be.

[Pussy]

Calling Joe Pete into the report to post his POV. 

Please provide the name of your allies, as well. Thank you.

[Brad]

Chat Logs:

00:00:01 : Group: Luciano Wills: //permission to execute you..and you can remember some stuff what happened tonight?
00:00:10 : Group: Luanne Galloway: //no
00:00:38 : Group: Joe Pete: // the fact when cant execute you is wasted 2 hrs of RP.. its not a perma.
00:00:45 : Group: Joe Pete: // we*
00:00:47 : Group: Kieran Caffrey: // You have the right already no? For the extensive pain she caused you?
00:01:02 : Group: Luanne Galloway: //um i could say the same thing
00:01:08 : Group: Luciano Wills: // its fine....
00:01:33 : Group: Luciano Wills: // permission to drug you then realease you...
00:01:34 : Group: Luanne Galloway: //wasted because you don't get to execute? i forget everything. whos rp is wasted?
00:02:01 : Group: Luanne Galloway: //granted

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To be perfectly frank with you, I don't see this report resulting in much more than a back and forth, between the parties involved.  With that being said this is the first and only warning that will be given about creating a back and forth argument.  We will take Joe Pete's POV if he gives it, but I highly suggest this report be discussed over TS or even PM's.  

To be honest the over-use of OOC isn't great, but it will likely be something we give a verbal warning for and nothing more.  If you are ok with this and simply want us to address that fact in this report we can carry on.

[Oryx]

Chat Logs:

00:00:01 : Group: Luciano Wills: //permission to execute you..and you can remember some stuff what happened tonight?
00:00:10 : Group: Luanne Galloway: //no
00:00:38 : Group: Joe Pete: // the fact when cant execute you is wasted 2 hrs of RP.. its not a perma.
00:00:45 : Group: Joe Pete: // we*
00:00:47 : Group: Kieran Caffrey: // You have the right already no? For the extensive pain she caused you?
00:01:02 : Group: Luanne Galloway: //um i could say the same thing
00:01:08 : Group: Luciano Wills: // its fine....
00:01:33 : Group: Luciano Wills: // permission to drug you then realease you...
00:01:34 : Group: Luanne Galloway: //wasted because you don't get to execute? i forget everything. whos rp is wasted?
00:02:01 : Group: Luanne Galloway: //granted

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To be perfectly frank with you, I don't see this report resulting in much more than a back and forth, between the parties involved.  With that being said this is the first and only warning that will be given about creating a back and forth argument.  We will take Joe Pete's POV if he gives it, but I highly suggest this report be discussed over TS or even PM's.  

To be honest the over-use of OOC isn't great, but it will likely be something we give a verbal warning for and nothing more.  If you are ok with this and simply want us to address that fact in this report we can carry on.

Nah you can close. It's fine. Thanks for your time.

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I changed my mind. I want to pursue as overuse of OOC.

[APureGamer]

my POV - I just got home from the Gym when i had a message sent to me by Coreena saying we need to deal with sunshine. But it was from 1 hour ago. I get into TS and all of my friends say they are torturing Luanne because she has broken ALOT of our group rules and she has developed kuro. So they had been actually torturing her for what they said was 2-3 hours. Now i got informed on what was going on and said i dont think we should Perma her. They said it doesnt matter anyways because she wont let us. I said what about a regular Execution? ( Because she had nothing besides basic clothing and small gear that is easy to get back ) But she also denied that. Me and everyone else in the TS were really bummed that we couldn't even execute her when they had been torturing her for 2-3 hours. If anything i feel it is bad RP to not let us execute you when you have nothing of value. You stated i was going to forget everything anyways. so 2-3 hours of torture leads to no execution and you all the sudden forgetting everything? that doesn't make any sense to me. wish you would talk it out in TS with me. I want to actually point out i walked away after typing that OOC due to the fact if we werent going to execute her there wasnt a point in doing the torture as that was the plan from the beginning.

[Brad]

If she denies you the execution that is her decision and you need to respect that, rather than ranting about it in OOC chat.

Going in with the sole intention of executing her is a strange way to RP.  You roll with what happens and trying to force that on her is not respecting her right to have fun with the RP as well.

You may want to rethink your priorities if you believe that 2-3 hours of roleplay (which is the very definition of this server) is a waste of time if it doesnt end in death.

[APureGamer]

I respect that. Thats why i left it at that i said 1 thing in OOC chat and somehow that is OOC abuse? if she had a problem she could have come talked to me and i would have apologized. the sole intention was not to execute her but that was the only thing that made sense instead of giving her special drugs to make her forget things? who carry's special drugs to make you forget things... so executing her made sense to me.

[Brad]

Verdict:

Joe Pete - BAD RP - Not Guilty

             

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Reason:

As stated there is not much to review here.  If you ask someone for permission to execute and they say no.  That does not give you permission to get salty and chastise them OOC.  As stated above, this is a roleplay server, death is a last resort, in this situation you obviously felt like you did not have enough previous hostilites to perform a valid execution.  You did the right thing by asking for permission, but you should have prepared for an instance when the OP did indeed say no.

You are being verbally warned for the excessive OOC, don't let it happen again in the future, or there will be harsher consequences.

Seeing as you both appear to be from the same group, we hope you can take the time to work out this misunderstanding.

With the above stated the following applies:

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Outcome:

Joe Pete - - Excessive OOC - Verbal Warning