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Pender891    0

EVERY time i hold someone for a robbery or i hold someone with my group because he shot us before, I get KOS...

The problem is, even if i'm robbing someone, that it doesn't mean i'm going to kill him (i can't), so there is no reason to shoot me in the head, because you don't even know why i'm holding him or what i'm doing. What if i'm just showing my weapon to a firend? I would get shot by some "hero"...

It happened so many times...

I can understand if the guy i'm robbing is your firend, that makes sense but most of the time it's not like that.

You have finally met your group and found the guy who robbed you before? Well don't warry, as soon you are going to put your gun to him a "hero" will shoot you...

I mean... I'm not going to kill him, why do you have to murder me like that?

I know i'm probably wrong but i'm really salty because that happened before to me, we were holding a guy, we were going to take just some stuff and let him go but no, another guy came from behind and started shooting us. Result? Me and my friends died because we didn't want to kill anybody and the hostage thought that taking out his gun and shooting us was a good idea so we shot him.

Sorry i'm so salty now that i don't even need to add salt to my pasta. I have 300 hours on standalone, i died from hackers, from lag, from glitches and i never bitched like that lol

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Vandy    34

Nothing's wrong here. The thing is, they do get KoS rights when you initiate on someone.

So when you are robbing someone, they are allowed to shoot you.

The thing is, people tend to "ruleplay" above roleplay. And that's something you can't do much about I'm afraid...

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Mikachu    26

If it's s random stranger shooting you for robbing someone then no, that is not ok.

Please report this

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Nothing's wrong here. The thing is, they do get KoS rights when you initiate on someone.

So when you are robbing someone, they are allowed to shoot you.

The thing is, people tend to "ruleplay" above roleplay. And that's something you can't do much about I'm afraid...

I have seen this alot in the reports section. People get initiated on and OOC threaten a report in the hopes of deterring in game activity. Seems wrong to me...

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Buster    7

I've held people up twice thus far ( without stealing anything, lol) and I made sure they were alone, and I had the drop on them. I can see how getting killed would be frustrating, especially by mistake, but it's in the rules, so.. :(

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SomeWeirdAssGuy    287

I'm sorry but if you decide to hold someone up, you have to deal with the consequences, that is your own choice.

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Pender891    0

I don't agree with that... If you see a robbery you don't just go in and kill everybody, because that makes you a killer, worse than just a robber. So YOU have to deal with the consequences of killing someone that is just robbing.

The thing is that no one roleplay that well, because if you see a robbery you should try to sneak behind them and scream to drop their weapons, but they won't cooperate...

Or you just wait the robbers go away, you go to help the victim and then you can hunt them down.

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Rokos    0

I don't agree with that... If you see a robbery you don't just go in and kill everybody, because that makes you a killer, worse than just a robber. So YOU have to deal with the consequences of killing someone that is just robbing.

The thing is that no one roleplay that well, because if you see a robbery you should try to sneak behind them and scream to drop their weapons, but they won't cooperate...

Or you just wait the robbers go away, you go to help the victim and then you can hunt them down.

Maybe you just have bad luck (or maybe I just have great luck) but this kind of thing hasn't happened to me yet. I've held up plenty of people and nobody has KoS'd me during one of those times. Once, when my friend and I were robbing someone (because he had previously stolen our truck) a larger group came up from behind and told us to drop our weapons. We promptly told them why we were robbing the guy and they left us to conduct our business.

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Terra    1449

To be a bandit should not be easy. It should and is the hardest part in DayzRP in my opinion.

If you hold someone up and you do not make sure that he has no friends in a 500m radius, then you have to expect to get shot at and/or killed. Totally legit.

An initiation on someone should be done in a smart way. You need to make sure that you have the situation under control. You need to make sure that there are not more people with him which are in the area of 500m. If you fail to do that, the blame is on you and you need to expect to get killed.

Song by http://www.dayzrp.com/User-muntz

If you get shot at from someone who is not involved with your hostage (no group) he does not gain KoS rights. Very simple. <--- Report it!

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   22

I will suffer not the trespasses of Man against one another.

That being said, getting involved in a robbery is risky business. For those inclined to help the less fortunate, getting involved in a robbery, be it vocally or physically, can be potentially fatal for the person being robbed. Often enough someone will walk up to a robbery or say something against it, and the robber executes their victim, thinking that it is a friend or ally come to potentially harm them.

I'm of the mind to disarm and punish would-be robbers, but this can end in death for the victim, which of course leads to another death. Prevention of robberies almost always end in a killing, and for many just letting someone get robbed so that no one gets hurt is not an option.

A robbery pretty much requires the threat of death from the robber, and a person with good conscience cannot assume that someone is safe from harm under the gun of such a person.

EDIT: Always better to have as many people come out of a situation alive as possible, regardless of bandithood.

Unless they are cannibals. I won't defend cannibals.

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Subso    0

I'm sorry but if you decide to hold someone up, you have to deal with the consequences, that is your own choice.

^this

The consequence of beeing a Bandit is that you will get hurt by everyone who is not part of your Bandit group.

On DayZRP bandits dont have much to fear off... if they want to play 100% save they make 5vs1 robbery and then Hide 2 hours until they cant get KoS´ed anymore and keep robbing and nobody can do anything about it.

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Pender891    0

To be a bandit should not be easy. It should and is the hardest part in DayzRP in my opinion.

If you hold someone up and you do not make sure that he has no friends in a 500m radius, then you have to expect to get shot at and/or killed. Totally legit.

An initiation on someone should be done in a smart way. You need to make sure that you have the situation under control. You need to make sure that there are not more people with him which are in the area of 500m. If you fail to do that, the blame is on you and you need to expect to get killed.

Song by http://www.dayzrp.com/User-muntz

If you get shot at from someone who is not involved with your hostage (no group) he does not gain KoS rights. Very simple. <--- Report it!

Well when i do that i get reported heh... http://www.dayzrp.com/t-attempted-kos-rdm-prison-island-and-coast-18-00-servertime-around?pid=1002931#pid1002931

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Terra    1449

I did not read yet, but my guess is - then you do something wrong. To be a bandit is not easy. Maybe be a survivor first and get used to the rules.

Everyone wants to be the bad ass, rough guy ingame. But it will not work if you can´t play it by the rules.

Get some experience ingame, get to know the rules and how they play out ingame, then maybe try to be bandit.

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EG Magnum    0

The way I look at it is someone breaks into your house what are you going to do if you are in it? if someone has your family at gunpoint what are you going to do if you get the drop on them, say "Hey drop your gun dont hurt my family" or take the shot save your family or this case your friend.

Though if you are a hero type character coming up on this situation then you should initiate your own "dont move whats going on here?" then proceed with the appropriate action if they say are robbing and need supplies take thier guns give them some food and tell them to get lost. If they are hostile back then pop a bullet in each ones head. If someones going to be that way especially in the chaotic setting as an apocalypse better to just get rid of them.

Also another take on the situation you are a hero again you find someone getting robbed you get close enough to hear the situation. You know there are 3 guys that are there and they sound like they are going to take everything this guy has and that he had no quarrel with them to begin with. So they might do it again you know where each is standing one will see you when you hop areound the corner. So you take him out then proceed to get the hostage out while you get them to drop their weapons and move forward depending on the hostage get his help take thier gear escort them however it proceeds from there. The main thing is think about it from the other side and how people would react in real life. Thats how I see it at least.

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Lue    25

I have never needed savin' from mere men... for the merman watches over the meek ones... The merman instills fearless justice within my old bones when the bigots words fall forth like acid rain on a new bride's wedding day... When the bigot calls for tribute and his hand becomes outstretched toward the meek one's means of life, it is then that he touches the eyeball of the merman... The bigots that work the lawlessness of the megalodon and seek to bring ruin to the Earth... THEY shall be dealt with in a way that leaves no question to sovereignty....

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Chris    63

I have never needed savin' from mere men... for the merman watches over the meek ones... The merman instills fearless justice within my old bones when the bigots words fall forth like acid rain on a new bride's wedding day... When the bigot calls for tribute and his hand becomes outstretched toward the meek one's means of life, it is then that he touches the eyeball of the merman... The bigots that work the lawlessness of the megalodon and seek to bring ruin to the Earth... THEY shall be dealt with in a way that leaves no question to sovereignty....

Hear talk some of them boys got theyselves a truck what can swim underwater.

Hear it creeps up on you real quiet like.

They don't want to creep too deep.

(I love you Lue)

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Pender891    0

I mean... Yes you are right saying that beying a bandit should be difficoult, but i'm thinking about The Walking Dead or a hypothetical real life situation in an apocalypse, it's probalby my nature but i wouldn't shoot to a robber unless he is hurting the victing.

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Pussy    382

I don't agree with that... If you see a robbery you don't just go in and kill everybody, because that makes you a killer, worse than just a robber. So YOU have to deal with the consequences of killing someone that is just robbing.

The thing is that no one roleplay that well, because if you see a robbery you should try to sneak behind them and scream to drop their weapons, but they won't cooperate...

Or you just wait the robbers go away, you go to help the victim and then you can hunt them down.

The thing I think that is important to note, is that by taking someone's stuff, you are essentially signing their death certificate, or at least that's how the characters should see it as. Put yourself in the characters' shoes; if you were in the zombie apocalypse and someone robs you for all you're worth... how would you survive? If you had no food, no water, no way of defending yourself against hostile people or zombies, how is that not sentencing them to die?

I think that people think lightly about robbing someone, but when you think about it in a character perspective, being robbed really does mean your character has to fight for their life to survive.

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Terra    1449

I mean... Yes you are right saying that beying a bandit should be difficoult, but i'm thinking about The Walking Dead or a hypothetical real life situation in an apocalypse, it's probalby my nature but i wouldn't shoot to a robber unless he is hurting the victing.

We want to make DayZRP as realisitic as possible BUT it is a game after all and this is why we have the rules.

If someone wants to be bandit in this game, he has to do it the right way. If someone gets killed because he did it wrong and did not think of every possibility, then it is his fault. No need to complain.

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