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F11 Banditry

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I've been the nice guy in Chernarus and helping anyone I see andit's gotten me killed a couple of times because when I run to help someone they may or may not be bandits. With my luck I've ran to a few bandits and I eventually died but it was all in the sense of roleplay and it was well deserved after I tried to flee and get revenge but that's beside the point.

My question is if I start doing bandit like things and such and get someone as my prisoner and they have to listen to me and meet my demands so can I force them to kill them selves? Or is that frowned upon. Just putting it out there I haven't forced anyone to F11 yet I just want to make sure it's okay to do or not before I do such bandit like acts.

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I'd read the rules again if I were you.

There is something in there about how you are responsible for the well being of your captive.

Forcing them to commit suicide for your pleasure is not allowed and will be punished.

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No, your not allowed to force them to kill themselves unless you have a reason to execute them.

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Please read over the rules again.

If a hostage is complying you CANNOT harm them. NO you CANNOT make them kill themselves.

You will be banned quicker than you can spell bandit

/solved

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No, your not allowed to force them to kill themselves unless you have a reason to execute them.

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This here, forcing them to kill themselves or you would kill them, either way they die...when being a bandit you have to make the exoerience enjoyable for your victim and what you suggested gives them no chance at survival and imo badrp...

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Well, in my opinion, force someone to kill himself can be translated in two differents ways :

1- Powergaming : No one wants to shot himself so, if you say something like "kill yourself, or I kill you", well... That is a single exit even if he complies or not, and that finishes the RP session, even if the robbed person don't want to end that way so...

2- Invalid execution : If you have no valid reason to end someone's life IC, that can be count as an invalid execution, as both forced suicide and execution... leads to the same result.

But one thing is sure : even if people translate that in one way or the other, it's against the rules, in my opinion. So you shouldn't force someone to suicide.

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Wait, wait, wait....I never knew what F11 did. F11 makes you commit suicide?

So, those bandits that shouted "Press F11! Press F11!" were trying to trick people into committing suicide?

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Wait, wait, wait....I never knew what F11 did. F11 makes you commit suicide?

So, those bandits that shouted "Press F11! Press F11!" were trying to trick people into committing suicide?

Well you have to press F11, then after the animation is completed you are ready to click the fire button and commit it.

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Wait, wait, wait....I never knew what F11 did. F11 makes you commit suicide?

So, those bandits that shouted "Press F11! Press F11!" were trying to trick people into committing suicide?

Well you have to press F11, then after the animation is completed you are ready to click the fire button and commit it.

If you have a weapon of sorts in your hand. Otherwise you'll just shoot yourself with a finger pistol.

Buuut, are people really doing that? Telling someone else to F11?

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Wait, wait, wait....I never knew what F11 did. F11 makes you commit suicide?

So, those bandits that shouted "Press F11! Press F11!" were trying to trick people into committing suicide?

If Bandits are shouting "Press F11" That is BadRP.

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If they force someone to suicide by saying "Press F11 and then left click", that's a wonderful mix of Bad RP, Powergaing and Inalid Execution, in my opinion!

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K well I have scenario that just went down in Vybor. There was two men, one was looting around and the other was talking to my brother. I came over to my brother to back him up if he ('he' as in the guy talking to my brother) was going to rob him and when I get there the dude that was talking to my brother pointed his gun at me. I said to him "Dont point your gun at me" (twice).

then he said "why you creeping around the corner??"

I then said "unwield your weapon".

At this point my brother thought I was gonna start to rob him but that wasn't my plan, I just didn't want him to point his gun at me. But then my brother thinking I started a robbery and started screaming "Get the f*** on the ground!" the guy didnt comply for along 30 maybe 45 seconds. Im pretty sure thats long enough to execute him for not complying. But we didnt shoot him. We asked for him to strip down and he sure took his sweet'ol time doing that also. Eventually his buddy comes around the corner and shoots at us, which is okay since we were robbing his friend. Also quick note... we told the guy we were holding up that if his friend comes by and tries to interfere with the robbery that we will shoot you (you as in the guy we're holding up). So thats what I did. I shot the guy we were robbing and my brother killed the guy that was shooting us. When the smoke cleared I was the only one left. I survived in my brothers honor.

But in all seriousness is that situation like against the rules?? Thats what I am trying to get at. Did we do something wrong??

Also side note, when he laid down he asked for our names and we didnt give him them but he went OOC in chat reminding us that we have to give him our names. So we did after that. I just wanna make sure we didnt mess anything up because we're still new to the server some what... we've been on for like a week and have never experienced banditry just yet. So yeah, thanks guys!!

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I believe that you are not allowed to execute someone based on another persons actions. Telling someone, i will shoot you, if he does this is tough to justify.

Realistically though if there is a outside threat to you, just tell the hostage not to move. "if you move we will shoot you." that way you can focus on the outside threat. At that point

If he had a buddy that was within 500m and you are in the middle of a robbery, he has kos rights on you. Coming at two guys with loaded gun is a bit of a dangerous tactic though. And depending on the vantage could be considered NVFL.

A bit of a tricky situation, but at the end of the day if everyone involved is satisfied with the roleplay. That's what really matters.

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K well I have scenario that just went down in Vybor. There was two men, one was looting around and the other was talking to my brother. I came over to my brother to back him up if he ('he' as in the guy talking to my brother) was going to rob him and when I get there the dude that was talking to my brother pointed his gun at me. I said to him "Dont point your gun at me" (twice).

then he said "why you creeping around the corner??"

I then said "unwield your weapon".

At this point my brother thought I was gonna start to rob him but that wasn't my plan, I just didn't want him to point his gun at me. But then my brother thinking I started a robbery and started screaming "Get the f*** on the ground!" the guy didnt comply for along 30 maybe 45 seconds. Im pretty sure thats long enough to execute him for not complying. But we didnt shoot him. We asked for him to strip down and he sure took his sweet'ol time doing that also. Eventually his buddy comes around the corner and shoots at us, which is okay since we were robbing his friend. Also quick note... we told the guy we were holding up that if his friend comes by and tries to interfere with the robbery that we will shoot you (you as in the guy we're holding up). So thats what I did. I shot the guy we were robbing and my brother killed the guy that was shooting us. When the smoke cleared I was the only one left. I survived in my brothers honor.

But in all seriousness is that situation like against the rules?? Thats what I am trying to get at. Did we do something wrong??

Also side note, when he laid down he asked for our names and we didnt give him them but he went OOC in chat reminding us that we have to give him our names. So we did after that. I just wanna make sure we didnt mess anything up because we're still new to the server some what... we've been on for like a week and have never experienced banditry just yet. So yeah, thanks guys!!

If you have a compying hostage then no you can not kill them. You can't kill a complying hostage ecause of someone else actions.

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