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Jinx    23

I kinda miss it.. I use to enjoy when hearing an initiation peeking around seeing who it is then rescuing the guy or gal getting robbed only to be thanked and have some amazing rescuer rp (; ahehe... But with the needing to initiate now I kinda go well if I initiate I may get flanked and shot and I loose all stealth / advantage I had on them making me not really want to step in no more as the risk as been raised greatly now all I do is I wait around till it's over then hand the guy my gun going go get em big boy (or girl) I just feel like we need it but just a version of it that benefits everyone some how... and I also enjoyed when I would be getting robbed and a random amazing civilian would save me and I would shower him in loots and favors back in the day I use to make a few friends like that who I am still in debt to rp wise... without the GS rule Civilians feel really under powered and they should join a group so they are protected and can protect people instead of going lone wolf and people not saving you cause it is at a greater risk to them... I am just rambling you don't have to listen but you know... I kinda liked the rule.

(Thank you Tam.) Like this for example: http://www.dayzrp.com/t-a-new-take-on-the-good-samaritan-rule e0bb8f0f77c494c832d97ed603a74e1c871e682e97f1cc1efe931417395adcd5.jpg

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Sparky    0

Sometimes it can be used to as bait as in One Civ runs up to a bandit group and starts acting hostile nearly making them initiate,they initiate on the civ and then 10 civs start shooting at the group.The rule needs to be re-done if It did come out.

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Jinx    23

Sometimes it can be used to as bait as in One Civ runs up to a bandit group and starts acting hostile nearly making them initiate,they initiate on the civ and then 10 civs start shooting at the group.The rule needs to be re-done if It did come out.

That is why I said a rule that benefits all like in that situation the civ would be the bad guy and GS could not be used on him like make the rule where you can only initiate when you hear it and know half of what is going on.

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Samaritan    349

Did someone mention me? :P

I think if GS comes back it needs to do so in a revised form and clearly layed out. A lot of reports came from people not doing it correctly. If you had to be close enough to hear (as per the old GS rules), why not just initiate?

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Owen    16

To be honest if you see a person being robbed and you know they are, just initiate on them to save the hostage or the person being robbed. It saves you shooting someone who isn't doing anything bad and then you get reported for it. To be honest this rule produced more harm than good in the majority of cases.

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Mikachu    26

http://www.dayzrp.com/t-a-new-take-on-the-good-samaritan-rule

Help me try and get a new, better version added back :)

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Jinx    23

Did someone mention me? :P

I think if GS comes back it needs to do so in a revised form and clearly layed out. A lot of reports came from people not doing it correctly. If you had to be close enough to hear (as per the old GS rules), why not just initiate?

But see with the initiating thing that gives the bandits time to go oh shit sniper find the guy and shoot him where if GS was around (And some how made to work which I will personally find a way if needed Wink wink nudge nudge ) You could shoot the initiator then move location and look for the over watch most times now it just spells death if you even think of trying.


http://www.dayzrp.com/t-a-new-take-on-the-good-samaritan-rule

Help me try and get a new, better version added back :)

Added to OP thank you for posting that

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>Large group(A) initiates on someone else(B)

>You counter initiate in hopes if reverse GS

>Then you have to solo(or if I'm group) initiate on said group.

>Odds of compliance, low

>Odds of any sneakyness/getting drop on them, even less

Removal of GS rule is just a way to make bandit/bandit groups even more better off.

Hell, if there is a man in a black hoodie, and one in a green hoodie, and they are friends, I van go "You in the black, drop weps 10 secs" and green guy has to counter initiate, even if they stand right next to eachother.

pls rolle readd

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Valkerion    0

Hell, if there is a man in a black hoodie, and one in a green hoodie, and they are friends, I van go "You in the black, drop weps 10 secs" and green guy has to counter initiate, even if they stand right next to eachother.

pls rolle readd

No you dont...If they're friends and stood right next to each other they are a dynamic group the green guy could shoot if he wanted to.

Common sense rule and RP>Rules are you genuinely going to allow your friend to get robbed 2m in front of you because of some magical set of rules? probably not

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Hell, if there is a man in a black hoodie, and one in a green hoodie, and they are friends, I van go "You in the black, drop weps 10 secs" and green guy has to counter initiate, even if they stand right next to eachother.

pls rolle readd

No you dont...If they're friends and stood right next to each other they are a dynamic group the green guy could shoot if he wanted to.

Common sense rule and RP>Rules are you genuinely going to allow your friend to get robbed 2m in front of you because of some magical set of rules? probably not

But roleplay>ruleplay is butthurski reportski

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Oldman    22

GS is bad, because people shoot with the OOC knowledge that they are not allowed to kill the unarmed hostage. If there is more then one holding a gun at the hostage you need more the one to do a proper GS.

Also it has a tendency to break up good role play, because you don't know what is actually happening there.

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Valkerion    0

But roleplay>ruleplay is butthurski reportski

Why would you ever fear a report if you know the rules anyway? let them be butthurt about it im sure any member of staff would say the same thing about that situation.

"wait you're robbing a guy whilst his friend is 2m behind him and expect him not to do anything?"

Something along those lines anyway

As for GS as a whole to be honest Id like the old way back where you have to hear the initiation or the hostile intent like you hear the guy being tortured or something to be honest if GS was still in the way it was before I would have legitimately KOS'd Rick from SVR the other day as i saw him pointing a gun at an unarmed guy then escorting him through a field ticks all the boxes for a robbery however what was actually happening was far from a robbery so yeah.

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But roleplay>ruleplay is butthurski reportski

Why would you ever fear a report if you know the rules anyway? let them be butthurt about it im sure any member of staff would say the same thing about that situation.

"wait you're robbing a guy whilst his friend is 2m behind him and expect him not to do anything?"

Something along those lines anyway

As for GS as a whole to be honest Id like the old way back where you have to hear the initiation or the hostile intent like you hear the guy being tortured or something to be honest if GS was still in the way it was before I would have legitimately KOS'd Rick from SVR the other day as i saw him pointing a gun at an unarmed guy then escorting him through a field ticks all the boxes for a robbery however what was actually happening was far from a robbery so yeah.

I watched and heard (I was that close) SVR initiate on SDS in an open field.

I was maybe 20-30 meters from the SDS,

I couldn't kill them, so I followed them down to the barn and counter initiated.

With GS, could have easily done it sooner,

But because I had to initiate, I died.

#AddBackGS

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Valkerion    0

I watched and heard (I was that close) SVR initiate on SDS in an open field.

I was maybe 20-30 meters from the SDS,

I couldn't kill them, so I followed them down to the barn and counter initiated.

With GS, could have easily done it sooner,

But because I had to initiate, I died.

#AddBackGS

In that situation I would agree GS should come into play as you heard and understood everything that was going on you knew the situation in and out.

Its situations like the one I explained above though with Rick why it was removed but I suppose that would be fixed if the old way of hearing and confirming the hostilities was re-added

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