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Chris Browning RDM Perma

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Link to report : http://www.dayzrp.com/t-unresolved-rp1-rdm-at-altar-hill-16-11-2013

Why the verdict is not fair : I didn't receive an alert on this problem, if you guys want proof that i didn't get an alert i can post a screenshot.

Additional statements/comments explaining your PoV (in details) : 501st were RPing in Altar when we saw players moving up towards the castle in the tree lines, we have had multiple attacks before and we knew that an attack was coming. Their were 20+ civis outside because we had already put the castle on lock down, SKA initiated on the castle and all this civilians outside started to charge towards the castle in a long line, one of the civilians started to shoot at us so we started to open fire on them, most of us died but me and my clan buddy Adam, SKA entered the castle and secured it but never went up the tower or went on top of the gatehouse, Adam was in the tower watching my scaffolding and i was on top of the gatehouse watching his scaffolding, so we knew if the enemy was coming up, Adam killed around 10 people that were suspected enemies inside the camp because we had told them to get out earlier because of the lock down, i saw a fire outside of the castle with civilians sitting around it unharmed, i also saw 2 guys with guns standing around the fire, thinking they were watching the prisoners so they don't escape, i started to shoot at the 2 guys to try and set the civilians free, we then cleared the camp and then i died shortly after. OOC: im not going to lie, it is extremely hard trying to confirm targets when their are 20+ civilians and 5+ SKA running towards the castle, i am sorry for any people i killed with no reason, but at the time it was so confusing.

What would you like to achieve with this appeal : Perma Ban Removed

What could you have done better? Read the formal reports after attacks on Altar and confirm enemys before shooting.

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As you have responded here, the temporary ban will be lifted an we will solve the report here.

I'm confused as to why you fired on the group at the fire. Did you have any way to confirm that SKA were near that fire? And if your intention was to shoot only the SKA 'guards', how did you manage to hit so many of the civilians?

If you can't ID your targets properly, you should absolutely hold your fire.

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As you have responded here, the temporary ban will be lifted an we will solve the report here.

I'm confused as to why you fired on the group at the fire. Did you have any way to confirm that SKA were near that fire? And if your intention was to shoot only the SKA 'guards', how did you manage to hit so many of the civilians?

If you can't ID your targets properly, you should absolutely hold your fire.

Their had been multiple SKA their previously, their were also 3 SKA outside interrogating 2 people. Also the recoil of my gun was hard to control, seeing as i was trigger happy and my adrenalin had been pumping for around an hour then, i accidentally hit a few of the civilians, it sort of turned into a moment that it was impossible to identify enemies because of the amount if civilians that attacked, although that is not an excuse why i shot the civilians around the fire, i heard SKA interrogating people outside, i also started to shoot at the SKA interrogating a clan mate, so i shot at the SKA interrogating him, and then he ran into the castle and picked up a gun, i knew that they were SKA standing around the fire with guns in their hands because when they raided they told all civilians to drop their weapons also their were in Russian clothing. It was just me being to trigger happy and not being able to control the recoil because of how much i was shaking IRL. I am extremely sorry of what happened and it wont happen again.

Also the attacks on the camp were turning into an attack every night and it was getting really annoying because we never got peace and quiet, at one point we all decided to not play when a raid was happening.

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I did indeed send you a private message. Here is my SS proving you were sent one and the time.

Here is a SS of the time I called you to the report showing I sent you the message right after I posted for you to come to the report:

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And here is the PM itself:

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Please do not lie in a ban appeal.

I also for GM and Admins included a copy of my not read PM's showing not only did you get this message but you also opened it up and read it.

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Geez... I didn't mean to lie, it is not in my alerts and i never delete alerts, im guessing i ran out of alert space, i only have 2 pages


Also it was probably my fault for not being active on the forums.

Also about me opening it and reading it i didn't exactly read it and i didn't think it was important for me, their was a player called Chris Sterling and i thought it was about that, next time i will read every alert because i probably wouldn't be here.

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So you thought a summons titled "Formal report" with one sentence saying your PoV was needed in a formal report with a link to click was to much to read and not for you? Even though it was sent to your forum name and no where in there was your in game name mentioned?

I am highly confused by this.

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Is me reading a message from you relevent to what happened at altar?

because we are hear to sort out the issue at altar, all im saying is that i don't really pay attention to the forums that often, and when i read your message you sent to me i opened it and closed it right after or i opened the link and was overwhelmed by the amount of text that the woman wrote on my report, i was not paying attention at the name of the post, all i remember was it saying RDM at altar, and their had been a player banned and he also was RDMing at altar, so i didn't think the Post was about me.

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Link to report : http://www.dayzrp.com/t-unresolved-rp1-rdm-at-altar-hill-16-11-2013

Why the verdict is not fair : I didn't receive an alert on this problem, if you guys want proof that i didn't get an alert i can post a screenshot.

Very relevant since you are trying to use the fact you were not told to post in that formal report as a reason it is not fair. You were alerted. You were messaged with a link. You opened it. You saw it. Now you are claiming there was no communication that you were needed. Lying carries a 5-10 point warning. 5 day ban and character reset.

So it could be added onto your punishment since it is very obvious you were given communication that your PoV is needed and you did not heed it.

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You also required a GUID change recently. I removed the ban at that time so that we could test your ability to log in, and you mentioned the report, so you were aware of it, in one way or another. I trusted that you would reply to the report, yet you continued to ignore it for another 2-3 days, until I restored the ban.

Your protestations of innocence are disingenuous, and do not speak well of your trustworthiness. Staff takes a very dim view of those who are not entirely forthcoming from the first.

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Ok, well its either i take the risks to defend a camp, or i just let the SKA walk into altar everyday and let them take it over.

If their are attacks happening everyday, their WILL be an accident some day, and that accident is on me, i barely take notice of forums i just like to play, but i guess i cant because of this "RDM" on altar, even though it was not on purpose.

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If that's the extent of your defence, we can only find you guilty of attempted RDM / KoS in a firefight zone. Staff has also decided to apply a penalty for lying in the report and your unhelpful attitude.

Verdict: Guilty attempted RDM and lying in a report

Penalty: 2 day and 5 day ban respectively, for a total of 7 days, character reset, 2 ban strikes, or 20 warning points.

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