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Robotic Ruleplay, a bannable offense?

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Hey guys,

So last night I was involved in some fun RP, but a few certain things could make a 'fun event', for me into me being banned. For reasons I think need to be adressed for other people to know how to react.

I won't go into too much detail, but the basic idea is that I was surrounded by 4 angry gun men who were verbally insulting me and making demands of me, they were very sure not to offer me an ultimatum, though.

Scenario one: Me being in a building at the top floor and being told to leave the building, I was escorted from the building inside Raven's Nest (by non CRs, a rather well known clan that are known for irrationally killing people IC) with three AK's pointed at me the entire way.

Now, what was I to expect if I refused to go with them? Would they suddenly just stop, apologise? Not a chance, and I couldn't trust their word for it due to their well known past both IC and OOC.

Two: I am outside the Nest and told about the inventory of my vehicle, and how they want it all as a means of my character 'apologising' - Keep in mind, there are still 3 guns at my head. I am put in a position where I am being robbed, and if I deny, the conclusion is clear. I will be shot.

Three: After complying to their demand, I am thusly told to get into their vehicle. First they've robbed my vehicle's contents and now they wish to kidnap me.

To only help the context, during this entire ordeal Jack was never stripped of his radio (or anything aside from his vehicle's gear) and he was keeping in contact with his group who were on their way back.

As I am being forced into the vehicle, the shots ring out as my IC brother's group now attempt to liberate me. Only those who came to liberate me survived, I and my aggressors dying.

Now, to my question.

Is it fair for a group of robbers/aggresors to think that they are immune from the consequence of their In Character actions because they have left out a sentence of wording? Is 'Or you will be shot' paramount to the situation despite them holding me at gunpoint and taking what they will from my vehicle after escorting me from a building?

I felt so very frustrated when my IC TS channel was entered and myself and the rescuing party were labelled 'Bad RP' and 'RDMers' due to their supposed 'KoS' upon my aggresors.

I felt as thought they were using a metaphorical shield to ensure that the consequence of their hostile actions was not met by an equally as hostile reaction. And I wonder if others have suffered this also, and if so, how it can be stopped.

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FruitPunchG    5

You have been banned before JUDGING your own RP and thinking everything was OK, even though the RP is good RULES are still to be followed.

Report here.

Your "brother" killed a lot of people without any initiation and basing it off "body language" (da fuq?)

People pointing gun at you asking you to get in the vehicle, you ask "Or what?"

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People pointing gun at you asking you to get in the vehicle, you ask "Or what?"

I have never ever heard anything more absurd in my life. Which rational man would ever have done that. In Hollywood films 30 years ago, perhaps..

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Yuval    2

Using body language as a way to initiate can't work in dayzrp. simply because there is non. if someone has his weapon raised at you telling you to stop the car. does it mean he will kill you?

or was he chased by zombies and he had to raise (ooc) his weapon in order to kill them, and saw you and thought you can save him.

there is a reason for rules IG, which your RP should be based upon, at least that's how i see it.

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FruitPunchG    5

People pointing gun at you asking you to get in the vehicle, you ask "Or what?"

I have never ever heard anything more absurd in my life. Which rational man would ever have done that. In Hollywood films 30 years ago, perhaps..

stop comparing this game to a hollywood film.........

rules are rules, clearly you don't know them, i suggest you re-read them one or two more times..

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Original that you would scrutinise in such a manner, really.


Using body language as a way to initiate can't work in dayzrp. simply because there is non. if someone has his weapon raised at you telling you to stop the car. does it mean he will kill you?

or was he chased by zombies and he had to raise (ooc) his weapon in order to kill them, and saw you and thought you can save him.

there is a reason for rules IG, which your RP should be based upon, at least that's how i see it.

There's a difference between ASKING someone to stop a car, or COMMANDING someone to stop a car. There's even MORE of a difference between asking if someone may take something rather than that they WILL be taking something whilst also aiming a gun at someone's face.

Anyway, I don't want this to turn into the shit-storm that's going on with the thread, so I'm peacing out of this thread.

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Yuval    2

Original that you would scrutinise in such a manner, really.


Using body language as a way to initiate can't work in dayzrp. simply because there is non. if someone has his weapon raised at you telling you to stop the car. does it mean he will kill you?

or was he chased by zombies and he had to raise (ooc) his weapon in order to kill them, and saw you and thought you can save him.

there is a reason for rules IG, which your RP should be based upon, at least that's how i see it.

There's a difference between ASKING someone to stop a car, or COMMANDING someone to stop a car. There's even MORE of a difference between asking if someone may take something rather than that they WILL be taking something whilst also aiming a gun at someone's face.

Anyway, I don't want this to turn into the shit-storm that's going on with the thread, so I'm peacing out of this thread.

well in the situation i described, if it was me i'd be like STOP THE CAR NOW!!! STOOP

and not

Hello sir! May you please stop your vehicle and allow me entry?

and why shitstorm, just a discussion

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And to be honest, when people yell like that with their weapon pointed - people tend not to stop. Have you realised that?* If perhaps they said "HEY, PLEASE STOP. I NEED HELP!" Maybe somebody would be inclined to realise that the man is not hostile.

*Because people think they are going to get robbed. The idea that the person is going to be hostile before them even saying! That's the point I'm trying to get across.

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Yuval    2

i somewhat agree, but this can be abused into unfair KoSing. and for my example, me in that event would be dead most likely if right now you could initiate like that.

and by going with this rule of knowing of hostility before initiation, i can tell you about many incidents that i know i was about to be robbed or initiated on, but couldn't do anything until they initiated.

doing this would give the robber possible deniability, since he officially had done nothing.

anyway, this can be abused so easily and frequently, you'd have more frustration and less RP by doing so.

The rules may sometimes limit RP but in the grand scheme of things it makes RP a better overall experience.

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Thanks for utterly de-railing this thread beyond it's entire point. ;_;

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Osaka    28

I'm also not always happy with the manditory "or you will be shot" phrase.

However it was added to prevent confusion.

Some people have the disability to ask something in a nice way.

So "please stop the car" sound somewhat the same as "stop the car or you will be shot"

Someone asking for a ride can be easily mistaken for a robber that way, and we want to prevent this. "or you will die/shot/killed" is needed because there are people who do not have the ability to take a hint.

Some rules might not make sense to you, but that doesn't grant you permission to ignore them.

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real    1

Hello there friend.You dont need to forget that you must role-play like in Zombie Apocalyps.People just wount run around screaming "pls good sir can you give me a ride?".And then simply let you go.

Before judging someone Role-Play you need to know Side story of character you RP with\against.You need to know what he had been thro.Thats why we have Safe areas\Camps where people come to trade,get some information about what happening,people/groups.

And saying i wan't everything inside your car doesn't mean you getting robbed.Ofcourse if you refure to role-play situation person that Role-Play with you/against you will get frustrated of your bad RP.

They didn't asked you to drop your weapon,radio.Means they just want whats inside of a car as apoligie for something.On what you could role-play and answer "no" or something like that,but you ignored it.And how you know you will get killed?Are you reading minds my friend?Or did they say if you dont give us whats inside we will kill you?.When you saw them taking things from your car why you didn't say you dont like it and that they should put it back.Instead you call your friends to come and KOS\RDM them.When they have no rights to do it.And could just walk to Al-Takizh guys and Rp with situation again with them.

You got killed beacos of your Bad Rp and refusing to Role-Play situation,Your friends KOS\RDM Al-Takizh without willing to RP situation again.

I RP a lot with Al-Takizh guys and i know they are great RP.I know how they rob people and what they can do with them.Every time i RP with them i had great time,and it was rly fun.

Oh and another question you say you were whole time on radio right?Did you Rp that you contacting you friends on radio,taking it out of poket?Or your talk on radio with people standing 5-10 meater next to you without them hearing you or seeing you use radio,and not even geting it out of pocket?

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Asking the thread is closed as it appears this is just about one particular event despite me asking it to not be about that!

(Of course I bloody Roleplayed Correctly, you fool. Read the above or the damned Formal Report before trying to jibe at me.)

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