March on Zelenogorsk [Saturday 11/14: 20:00]

[Echo]

March on Zelenogorsk

Before the launch of the Chernarussian government movement Obrana Národa, we would like to kick it off with a small simple event pertaining to the new leader Konstantin Broz Tesar and his government cabinet. You will observe many Chernarussian militiamen walking down the streets from Green Mountain into the city as well as a rally filled with some glorious speeches about the new capital and the new Chernarussian State. This rally will also be related to the DayZRP community members and whoever wants to become a thriving member of the new city where they can rest their heads and live under the protection of the movement.

 

✖ HOSTILITIES ARE NOT ALLOWED DURING THIS EVENT ✖

DO NOT OPENLY CARRY A WEAPON, HAVE IT REMAIN ON YOUR BACK

 

Event Representatives:

@Echo and members of Oceláři / Obrana Národa

 

Date & Time:

Saturday 11/14/2020 - 3:00 PM EST (20:00 SERVER TIME)

 

Location:

City of Zelenogorsk, middle of town

Edited November 14, 2020 by Echo

[Eagle]

Making the CLF dream come true.

[ShroudKN]

Honestly the fact that this is being done as a scripted non hostile event kind of kills the actual impact of it, if you want to be able to have a city that is a bastion of safety for the citizens of chernarus you should be able to defend it on its christening if it comes to that. The whole fun of DayzRP and especially lore altering events is that the players determine the outcome, however in this case it seems you have already set up what’s supposed to happen and even your opposition have a script to go by which is rather disappointing.

Edited November 13, 2020 by ShroudKN

[Guest]

I think this *No Hostilities Allowed* trend is a bad influence honestly. It ruins the whole dynamic of RP. How we should all be fearful of one another cause anything can happen now just plop a *Hostilities Not Allowed* and you’re safe..? You have a big roster, enforce it IC’ly or just don’t do a rally if you can’t safeguard people.

Regardless, good luck with the event.

Edited November 13, 2020 by Guest

[G_DateSB]

I love it sounds really good @Echo. Can't wait to see how well this goes. I know for a fact that all you guys are great at what you guys do in RP and never disappoint so I know for a fact this is going to be one sick event. 

 

[dom]

Seems a little bit like an internal RP event to me, you've even chosen the protestors. Seems a little unfair seeing as it impacts the lore but if it makes you guys happy to only roleplay with the people you choose then carry on and best of luck to you.

[Rover]

Its nice to see people take advantage of the Events part of the forum, and actually have the balls to put themselves out there and push RP scenarios.

For those people complaining about 'no hostilities allowed' reach out to @Echo if you had plans and wanted to arrange shit. 

 

Don't forget that rule 3.10 exists, but the goal is always to promote and push RP, not railroad or hamstring people. Colloborative roleplay is a two way street, if you wanted to attack the event then reach out and get each other on the same page. Don't script it, just get the consent and make it aware its going to happen so things go 'smoothly' as hostilities can go.

 

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3.10 Events can be organized by both staff and players. Events may either be dynamic or official. Dynamic events are spontaneous events organized entirely in game, often advertised through radio (RCON admin chat in game) without any special rules or preparations. Official events are the ones announced on the website, with a thread in the event forums. Official events may not be disrupted, sabotaged, attacked or interrupted without a consent from event organizer. Official events may sometimes have other special, temporary rules applied to them that last for the duration of the event.

 

Edited November 13, 2020 by Rover

[Eagle]

15 minutes ago, Rover said:

Its nice to see people take advantage of the Events part of the forum, and actually have the balls to put themselves out there and push RP scenarios.

For those people complaining about 'no hostilities allowed' reach out to @Echo if you had plans and wanted to arrange shit. 

 

Don't forget that rule 3.10 exists, but the goal is always to promote and push RP, not railroad or hamstring people. Colloborative roleplay is a two way street, if you wanted to attack the event then reach out and get each other on the same page. Don't script it, just get the consent and make it aware its going to happen so things go 'smoothly' as hostilities can go.

 

 

Enforcing OOC safe hubs to further a storyline whilst also altering the lore at the same time seems quite odd to be allowed without the approval of the LM's or Admins as it changes the narrative of how things should operate, unless we simply just throw the lore out the window.

Edited November 13, 2020 by Eagle

[Squillium]

Look, there’s some things in my mind that are reasonable to have “no hostilities allowed”, like situations where it’s just a party or something harmless. I don’t agree that forced safety because people OOC just don’t like hostilities is right but so be it, I would just chose not to go.

A military/political march and rally is the exact type of situation where not only hostilities SHOULD be allowed, but it makes complete sense for them to happen. Also, scripting protests? At this point it feels like you’re making a machinima more than RPing.

Edited November 13, 2020 by Squillium

[ImAtrix]

Hype for this shit, good luck boys ill be there.

Edited November 13, 2020 by AtrixLR

[ShroudKN]

36 minutes ago, Rover said:

Its nice to see people take advantage of the Events part of the forum, and actually have the balls to put themselves out there and push RP scenarios.

For those people complaining about 'no hostilities allowed' reach out to @Echo if you had plans and wanted to arrange shit. 

 

Don't forget that rule 3.10 exists, but the goal is always to promote and push RP, not railroad or hamstring people. Colloborative roleplay is a two way street, if you wanted to attack the event then reach out and get each other on the same page. Don't script it, just get the consent and make it aware its going to happen so things go 'smoothly' as hostilities can go.

 

 

Sadly we’ve already been told that we can have no hostilities at this event with the group that we are currently in an active conflict with, that is straight from the mouth of one of their leaders, this reaffirms my statement of this being a form of scripted roleplay, it only seems to serve the purpose of making a group look big and powerful without any actual opposition to oppose what they are doing.

Edited November 13, 2020 by ShroudKN

[dom]

Just now, ShroudKN said:

Sadly we’ve already been told that we can have no hostilities at this event with the group that we are currently in an active conflict with, reaffirming my statement of this being a form of scripted roleplay, it only seems to serve the purpose of making a group look big and powerful without any actual opposition to oppose what they are doing.

Yeah it's sad that I have to agree with this as it's quite unfair. We're not allowed to engage in hostilities at said event, with a group that instigated the conflict with us and refused to cease fire when given the opportunity to be neutral. So this event is just giving protection to the drivers of the hostilities.

[Misho]

ngl, even as someone who does not play and has no interest in group politics, having a enforced non-hostility type of event done by a military group seems very strange on DayZRP.

[Echo]

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[ShroudKN]

On 11/13/2020 at 1:40 PM, Echo said:

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Man that’s a fantastic way to reply to criticism, good god man

literally all we are trying to say is that there is a conflict going on outside this event so obviously that should affect it in some way, otherwise this event exists in some world where non of that has happened, and it makes it seem irrelevant to the larger story being developed 

[Squillium]

On 11/13/2020 at 1:40 PM, Echo said:

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No, the reason people are saying these things is because it goes against fair-play and is an arguably bad precedent to set.
 

If you don’t like it don’t make the event.

[Echo]

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[ImUnii]

I would like to put in a little bit of input, not trying to rile anyone up but, I kind of wanna see if I can help. Maybe just a little. Whilst I do believe it's a bit strange for a military group to host a non hostilities event. I have to say that if it wasn't and hostilities began. That would practically kill the entire spirit of the event, also imagine how the people sitting with their hands up for the entirety of the event would feel. In stead of being able to enjoy good roleplay, they would have to sit there and hope they don't catch a stray bullet. As for the people wanting to... Have a scrap I guess, why not legit do it the next day. Hell you can even show up and do actual roleplay. Not everything has to end in a firefight lads. Dunno if that's what you want, just the vibe I was getting, feel free to correct me if you think I have misunderstood. However, lets try not to flood the forum too much so if multiple people would like to, just feel free to dm me. My name is the same on DayZRP discord as it is on the forums. As for the event, I am excited to see what the Ocelari lads can make of this and I expect great things from this event. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.

[Blake]

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[ShroudKN]

3 minutes ago, Echo said:

It's classified as criticism, it's more along the lines of complaining.

Now, like I said, can you get off my thread?

If you want to see it as complaining then that’s your prerogative, but I don’t see the reason for such a combative response unless you have no reason to have a no hostility event besides creating a safe space where the group who started the conflict can’t have repercussions put upon them, but I think I’ve proven my point and your response has certainly helped so I will leave it at that.

Have fun at the event

Edited November 13, 2020 by ShroudKN

[Dew]

This event looks very cool, I cannot wait to roleplay with fellow travelers. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Echo said:

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54 minutes ago, Echo said:

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First off relax, that is no way to handle critic. If you can't handle it have someone else make the Thread. If anything this is quite obvious flame. Though that's not why I am making a reply.

Now yes this seems hella scripted. We even followed @Rover's guidance and DM'd you guys just to have a denial. A few weeks prior the Nationalists were organizing a Self Defense class inside the School to encourage RP and everything. Great idea honestly, makes a lot of sense how you'd want to win the hearts and minds of the people. Now we ended up being in the neighborhood and came to check it out. I'm sure you won't lie and say we came with hostile intent as none of us had guns drawn. Now you surprised us and chose to start hostilities with us that day.
So basically considering that Hostile RP is the only form of interactions our two groups are able to have due to your instigation of violence you are asking us to be sidelined from Roleplay. Now I don't think excluding an entire group doesn't follow the principals of "Encouraging RP".

[Elmo]

8 minutes ago, ShroudKN said:

If you want to see it as complaining then that’s your prerogative, but I don’t see the reason for such a combative response

You're not in the cool kid's club Shroud, take the hint 

Best of luck with your event!

[Charlie]

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[Rover]

@Echo You don't appear to be on the roster of Ocelari or I'd leave official group feedback, but as an organizer of the event you should probably respond to criticisms with some tact. It reflects poorly on you, the venue, and the organizers to take such a hostile tone with people, regardless of whether its warranted or not. Rise above.

 

I'm not going to touch on reasons for letting people be hostile or not. Not my horse not my race, and I don't know the history, but that shouldn't change how you respond to peoples queries or request, some of which seem to have valid justification.

 

Good luck with the event, Rover out.