Upcoming rule change: Ban on Extreme Discrimination

[Jade]

Hello Everyone!

After looking over this thread, the staff team have heavily discussed this topic and came to a decision. In order to change the community for the better we will soon be disallowing use of certain slurs and behaviors which we believe rarely or never enhance or provide anything new to role play, and act more as means for characters to be offensive and edgy. This will allow us to be more streamer friendly, as well as more welcoming to a wider audience that in general tends to avoid this community due to the vulgar nature in game.

This new rule will disallow overuse and abuse of offensive behavior related to homophobia and racism. You will still be able to role play characters that are homophobic or racist, however you will need to extend the scope of your character beyond just throwing F and N bombs around to get your point across.

To be clear, we are not following the Twitch TOS to key we are simply limiting extreme discriminatory terms and behavior from being used IG. We will also be reviewing this change in the following weeks/months to fine tune what this rule will prohibit.

[cas]

Good change. No reason for people to be chimping saying the N word in 2020.

[Banshee]

Just now, cas said:

Good change. No reason for people to be chimping saying the N word in 2020.

Aye, yer not wrong there. Good change.

[Methias]

*reminds himself not to say "Nagger" anymore* .. these are good changes.. people should not be saying these terrible things tbh.. also "get fragged retard" should be added to ban list gg Jade (shame about the forehead)

[Novi]

Thank god. While I can admit that there have been a few instances where people using said terms have been funny as fuck, it's still blatantly offensive and has no place in a well meaning community. 

[CutieNuggets]

This definitely is great to all the streamers here. Thank you for this  

[Bear]

As someone who doesnt tend to do any of this stuff in game, i think this is extremely negative change and shouldn't be in place. Yes some people use the excuse of their 'character' being the reason they say this stuff when it isnt true, But for the actual people who want to roleplay and CAN roleplay those type of characters you are limiting their ability to do so.

 

We should be encouraging all forms of roleplay, Not just whitewashed moddy coddled version. This is meant to be a strict roleplay server, people who are doing it in a trolly manner should be banned, those who are doing it literally because their character actually is a racist, or a homophobe, or transphobe then they should NOT be punished for this.

 

This change leaves me extremely worried for the future of the community. I do not believe this is a good change. Anything that restricts forms of rp is not an ehancement.

[Player 1]

Glad to see this is being implemented. I'm tired of hearing people screaming out the N-word for no reason than to just be edgy. What about those try to skim around it by claiming that said, "nagger" or are referring to a cigarette? Because people will push the barrier. Also, will there be a change to the Rules that we need to read and press the [ACKNOWLEDGED] button on? @Jade

Edited August 28, 2020 by AMERICA

[Chewy]

Will this be handled externally (I think I mean internally, brain no work rn) or via reports? Or both? Might it be an idea to add to the punishment guide for reference, if so?

Edited August 28, 2020 by ChewyLR

[Finn]

Not a change I support, if I wanted to have FiveM-esque RP I'd go on FiveM. But im sure many people are happy about this.

There is a reason I liked this server and it was because of its lack of censorship. Raw RP without restrictions.

The playerbase is already dwindling, restricting RP is only going to destroy peoples motivation to play. 

Edited August 28, 2020 by Finn

[Peril]

Just now, ImScouse said:

We should be encouraging all forms of roleplay

Frankly, I have no interest harboring racist, homophobic, or other slurs under the guise of "my roleplay!!!"  There are other ways to convey these things.

I'm glad we could convene as a team and implement this change.  There's no need for a large community to accept language that alienates current and future members, in or out of character.

 

[groovy chernon]

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[Marik]

1 minute ago, Peril said:

Frankly, I have no interest harboring racist, homophobic, or other slurs under the guise of "my roleplay!!!"  There are other ways to convey these things.

But in character is in character right? Why take out of character offense for something like this? Imagine reading a book that's censored like this rule. Sometimes there needs to be a racist/homophobic or anything insulting to shake up the reader a little bit. Are we dictating how people are role playing now? 

[Jade]

1 minute ago, ChewyLR said:

-snip-

Will be added to the punishment guide shortly . Also it will follow report standards, if people hear it IG and wish to report it they can, otherwise if a staff member witnesses it it will be handled directly.... so same as usual.

[cas]

6 minutes ago, ImScouse said:

those who are doing it literally because their character actually is a racist, or a homophobe, or transphobe then they should NOT be punished for this.

My character is a racist and a homophobe, I've never once said the N or F word in-game and I would never say them OOCly either. It's extremely easy to portray this kind of character without dropping those bombs. Just be creative.

[Bear]

Just now, Peril said:

Frankly, I have no interest harboring racist, homophobic, or other slurs under the guise of "my roleplay!!!"  There are other ways to convey these things.

I'm glad we could convene as a team and implement this change.  There's no need for a large community to accept language that alienates current and future members, in or out of character.

 

As i said i am not someone who would ever roleplay that type of character myself,  I hate homophobics, transphobics and racists as all people should as well as being left leaning, But the fact of the matter is this is a roleplay server, If we have someone wanting to roleplay a racist, or a homophobe/transphobe. And does it well, they should not be getting banned or points for this.

Censorship fore censorship sake is not good for a roleplay server, I would ban people using this in a trolly off the cuff manner 100 percent. But now you have took away the ability for people to roleplay that type of character, This is dayzrp, this is meant to be a gritty, Unkind place, not a safe space enviroment.

[Spencerlb]

I'm split on this. On one hand, I understand not wanting a toxic playerbase abusing the system to be trolls and make people not want to play based on their race/religion/sexuality/etc, but on the other, this sets kind of a blurred precedent. The server already has established mature themes of xenophobia, real-world politics, and other sensitive topics, but deciding which ones are more offensive and which ones are not can make players as a whole feel like they're walking on eggshells. I want everyone to feel like they can play on the server without having to worry about who or what they are, but I don't want us to stray from these topics as if they don't exist either.

[Whitename]

Anti-chimpery rule, +1

No reason to use this type of language, your roleplay will not be affected

Look forward to the next week of "might as well say it since i wont be able to next week staff are SJW cringelords"

[CutieNuggets]

Just now, cas said:

My character is a racist and a homophobe, I've never once said the N or F word in-game and I would never say them OOCly either. It's extremely easy to portray this kind of character without dropping those bombs. Just be creative.

+1 to this, you dont HAVE to say the N word or anything to portray a racist character if thats what you wish to do.

[Cracker]

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[Para]

1 minute ago, MarikLR said:

But in character is in character right? Why take out of character offense for something like this? Imagine reading a book that's censored like this rule. Sometimes there needs to be a racist/homophobic or anything insulting to shake up the reader a little bit. Are we dictating how people are role playing now? 

Reading a book, or watching a movie, and actively partaking in roleplay of that nature are two entirely different concepts. Yes, we are slightly dictating what people can and can't do within the community but for the greater good, to attempt to appeal to a broader audience as it is not necessary to be able to drop a few n-bombs when you feel like it. More often than not people have used this immaturely than in actual mature cases, using it much more liberally / casually. Weighing up the pros and cons, this is a change I was in favour of in the end.

[Nathaniel]

I wonder If  PsiSyn will return now LoL

[Whitename]

5 minutes ago, MarikLR said:

But in character is in character right? Why take out of character offense for something like this? Imagine reading a book that's censored like this rule. Sometimes there needs to be a racist/homophobic or anything insulting to shake up the reader a little bit. Are we dictating how people are role playing now? 

No book calls its readers a f*ggot, in this case we are characters

[LumenRP]

Damn, this going to be extremely hard for me to not say the N-Word, me as a black man say it a lot as irl as sometimes in games omg, but i will try my best, 

Edited August 28, 2020 by LumenRP

[Bear]

2 minutes ago, cas said:

My character is a racist and a homophobe, I've never once said the N or F word in-game and I would never say them OOCly either. It's extremely easy to portray this kind of character without dropping those bombs. Just be creative.

I mean yes, and youre clearly doing that well, Other people may not want to roleplay the same way as you, and nor should they, let me make this clear, I am fully for banning people who do this stuff in a trolly way, It is very obvious to me and to anyone else to see when people are genuinely doing this type of rp for trolls, or as a serious matter.

I am not saying that means people should throw those slurrs around everywhere, That would be trollish for me, But do i believe people should be able to use those words in certain situations and roleplay scenarios? Yes.