S1: KOS in Olsha 2020-07-22, 22:39

[Maybelele]

Server and location: Server 1 Olsha

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 2020-07-22, 22:39 server time

Your in game name: Martin Halvorson 

Names of allies involved: @God, @MarcLR and @Cormac (And alooooot of Olsha people)

Name of suspect/s: @Leik

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): N/A

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): 

Spoiler

 

Detailed description of the events: Standing around in Olsha listening to internal drama to where i wanted to involve myself because the dynamic fishermen group "protects" the Olsha people. After trying to talk to some of the head leaders in Olsha to see where our "protection" is when it comes to group members turning on group members. Out of nowhere i get shot and killed. Earlier to this the Olsha people had taken @Onion hostage to where i guess @Leik gained DDR and was going to use that on the Olsha people which is fair, but as seen in the video he killed me aswell with no kill rights.

[God]

Pov- The Blub Blub gang and I are rolling around olsha trying to get a sniff in the latest drama of the community. We end up chatting with @FireDude and some others. After a while of us talking @Maybelele gets hit in the head harder out of nowhere ( a classic jfk)  There's not much to add to this terrible act of violence. Sorry for the short POV 

[Jade]

For the time being please do not post your POVs until logs are pulled. This will help avoid a cluster of people all giving their POVs.

[Idle]

Pov- The fisherman gang and myself were up in Olsha getting some RP. At one point we were all standing in a group that contained Olsha people and fishermen. After having a good bit of a chat with @FireDude, @Maybelele gets hit and falls. Not too sure what else to add either

[Jade]

Connection Logs:

Spoiler

20:36:59 | Player "Martin Halvorson" is connected
-DEAD-
23:03:44 | Player "Martin Halvorson" has been disconnected
23:06:23 | Player "Martin Halvorson" is connected
-STILL ig-

21:33:11 | Player "Aslan Ravn Ehlers" is connected 
-DEAD-
22:58:31 | Player "Aslan Ravn Ehlers"has been disconnected

18:52:36 | Player "Gareth Jones" is connected
23:03:44 | Player "Gareth Jones" has been disconnected
23:05:53 | Player "Gareth Jones" is connected
-Still IG-

20:37:43 | Player "Rae Peyton" is connected 
22:59:43 | Player "Rae Peyton"has been disconnected
23:07:15 | Player "Rae Peyton" is connected
-STILL ig- 

21:19:28 | Player "Adrian McCarthy" is connected
23:03:45 | Player "Adrian McCarthy" has been disconnected
23:05:30 | Player "Adrian McCarthy" is connected
-Still IG-

 

Hit Logs:

Spoiler

22:38:49 | Player "Martin Halvorson" (DEAD) hit by Player "Gareth Jones" with AKM from 163.904 meters 
22:38:51 | Player "Aslan Ravn Ehlers" (DEAD) hit by Player "Gareth Jones" with AKM from 162.728 meters 

 

Kill Logs:

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22:38:49 | Player "Martin Halvorson" (DEAD) killed by Player "Gareth Jones" with AKM from 163.904 meters 
22:38:51 | Player "Aslan Ravn Ehlers" (DEAD) killed by Player "Gareth Jones" with AKM from 162.728 meters 

 

Calling in the following people to post their POVs and any unedited video evidence they may have:

@Maybelele - OP | POSTED

@God - Rae Peyton | POSTED

@Cormac - Adrian McCarthy | POSTED

@edgy Dingle - Aslan Ravn Ehlers | POSTED

@Leik - Gareth Jones | POSTED

[Dingle]

Aslan's POV:

I logged on to an ongoing situation involving @Onion and I guess @Leik, however Gareth wasn't there when I arrived as far as I could tell. They were being held up in the barn in Olsha, after having made some threats about "pillaging and raping" the town, and naturally the Olsha community had held them up and was going to tell them to leave and not come back. The Fishermen ended up taking over the situation, and dragged @Onion out of Olsha to get rid of him. I was told they let him go, so that's fair enough. Shortly there after we spot someone on the hill aiming down into the town, and we run up to see who it is. We then find @Onion on the hill with what I think was a Blaze rifle, trying to get a shot on the people in Olsha. I then gave chase with a few other members of Olsha, caught him, took his gun and told him to run off AGAIN, even after he had, to my knowledge, been threatened to not come back into Olsha. Him returning to Olsha in what, at the time seemed, like a 1vEveryone is kind of sketchy to me, as he knew at the time that he wasn't welcome. As for what a potential kill for him would provide roleplay wise you would have to tell me, because I don't really see it. Anyway, we tell @Onion to run off a second time and not come back, after having removed his gun from him.

Fast forward a bit, and we have an ongoing situation in town, between two of the Olsha people and myself arguing about a decision that was made. @Maybelele was confused as to what the dispute was about, and demanded an explanation as to what was going on between us, and we stepped aside along with a few other people to explain. As we were in the middle of great roleplay, @Maybelele gets domed right in front of me, and after that I get hit as well and die immediately. @Leik and I didn't have an interaction today at all, as far as I know, and why he chose to kill me is completely oblivious to me, as it achieved nothing and ruined great roleplay. He took two shots at us both from the hill west of Olsha, and dipped right after. It didn't add to any roleplay at all, and given the fact that we didn't execute any of them, or do anything else than strip them of some weapons and clothes, beat them up a bit and told them to leave, I really see no point as to why @Leik decided to come in and kill us, as it did nothing constructive to the situation we had going on, at all. And why @Onion decided to loop back around to a full town of known enemies to try to take a few shots after being told to leave is also strange to me.

That's all folks

[Leik]

Gareth POV: i was in olsha with my mates @Onion and @Killsceamguy where onion said something about raping and pillaging while i was having a seperate roleplay scenario that resulted in a PK and i come back to a bunch acusations and people talking about me raping and pillaging, telling people to go into the woods with me and a whole bunch of other stuff and uderstandably i was pretty confused and then my friend @Killsceamguy initiates on the guy that was trying to take people into the woods where from what i understand he non complied and got fragged where i got back to see a group of about 20 people has formed and started questioning me where i tried to be diplomatic and talk it out where i get dragged into a building where i explain what happend to the best of my abilities which admitedly wasnt very good as i wasnt there for the pillaging and raping part but i did see the body of the man trying to take people into the woods which i explain to them then about 10 to 15 minutes of talking we go outside as @Onion was spotted and eventually was captured where after about 5 minutes we went to a barn called "the torture barn" where there was a shit ton of people like too many to mention we talk back and forth for abit which end with me being told to go to svet and stay there for an hour which i obviously didnt do then i have a run in with another friend i know where i get my hands on an AKM and i had a PSO scope so i circled around and setup on the hill intending to leave my mark and start start a hunt for my character as for in character reason my character is a biker who is used to opressing people and being on top and having everything taken from him and some other things that would make him reasonably unstable but as seen in the video the first shot hit the wrong guy it was not at all my intention to hit @Maybelele right before i take the shot my gun move ever so slightly to the left and hits him it was a complete accident when i realized i had shot the wrong guy i had already fired the second shot 

edit: i would like to pull  inventory and location logs as i belive he was a part of the group of people who initiated and only the logs can prove that 

i atleast know he was there for the whole situation

Edited July 23, 2020 by Leik
better wording

[Rover]

On 7/23/2020 at 11:10 AM, Leik said:

but as seen in the video the first shot hit the wrong guy it was not at all my intention to hit @Maybelele

You state you clearly didn't intend to hit this target.

On 7/23/2020 at 11:10 AM, Leik said:

edit: i would like to pull  inventory and location logs as i belive he was a part of the group of people who initiated and only the logs can prove that 

i atleast know he was there for the whole situation

Now you are trying to put him in the situation as being an aggressor, so you have rights.

Do you have video evidence of him initiating on you? Do you know for a fact that @Maybelele initiated on you?

Position logs show he was present in the area, but as was something along the lines of 20-25 other people, a lot of which were watching the 'show'.

[Leik]

There were alot of people there, and alot of people gathered around. The high majority of those people pointed weapons at me when the initiation

was dropped. I cannot say for absolute fact that @Maybelele was one of those people, however I am positive of the fact there was at the very least 1

'Fisherman' who was pointed weapons at myself and @Onion. It was to my understanding that everyone involved in the large group surrounding us at

that time with their weapons drawn was considered hostile - obviously not including those who were stood quietly with their guns on their backs on

the other side of the barn. My target was initially the gentleman who I killed secondly, as he was the ring-leader of the hostilities. However I fully

believe that @Maybelele (or someone from his group) was involved in the initiation on either myself or @Onion. Effectively giving us kill rights on him. As

@Maybelele was not my target, I apologised to him as he is a friend and have been in groups together and I would never like to do ill to anyone, let alone a friend.

[Leik]

I recall hearing Maybelele's voice and seeing him within the group that was leading hostilities, and I certainly remember seeing him (or a character that looked exactly the same to his) pointing a weapon at me when the initiation was dropped. This leads me to believe that I did in fact have kill rights on Maybelele, even if he wasn't my intended target. I ask that the GM's look at the position logs to confirm that this is the case.

[Peril]

1 hour ago, Leik said:

I cannot say for absolute fact that @Maybelele was one of those people, however I am positive of the fact there was at the very least 1 'Fisherman' who was pointed weapons at myself and @Onion.

38 minutes ago, Leik said:

I recall hearing Maybelele's voice and seeing him within the group that was leading hostilities, and I certainly remember seeing him (or a character that looked exactly the same to his) pointing a weapon at me when the initiation was dropped.

@Leik, it has to be one or the other, you either lack the ability to say that Maybelele was the one 'Fisherman' to initiate on you or you definitively recall that he was there and you saw him pointing guns at you.  Which is it, and if it's the second one, do you have evidence of this?

We'd also like you to clarify some of the timeline of your POV.  We see that you were restrained at some point in this altercation.  Was this immediately following the initiation, or were you tied up later?  At what point were you initiated on?

[Leik]

As I said in my most recent post, it was him who was pointing a weapon at me when the initiation was dropped, or someone who was dressed exactly similarly to him - however unlikely that may be. No video of that time in perticular, only after I was released unfortunately. I can't recall the time frame of which I was tied up. I was initiated on roughly 5 minutes before I was released.

[Jade]

Verdict:

@Leik - Invalid Kill (On sight): GUILTY

 

Explanation:

To explain the situation, Onion and Leik had previously been initiated on by the New Divide group for a situation that took place in Olsha. Maybelele and a few others were present to watch the situation unfold. A short while later the new divide leaders and Maybelele were making deals about their protection on the town, when Maybelele is suddenly killed, followed by edgy Dingle also being killed by Leik.

 

Reasoning:

@Leik while your rights on Dingle would have been valid as he was a part of the official group that took you hostage, your rights on Maybelele would not follow suit. Even though he was present for the situation and his allies potentially committed a hostile action against you, he himself never engaged in any form of hostilities against you, and therefore did not grant you valid kill rights on him. He is running in a dynamic and doesn’t share attacker-rights, which means that any defenders-rights gained on his allies are not extended to him. In your own POV you admit to shooting him on accident; on top of that there is no mention of you believing he was involved in the situation aside from just being present to watch. Due to your own admission you have been found guilty of an invalid kill (on sight). 

We noted down your radical change in story and came to the conclusion that the only reason you would make such a drastic change was that you knew you were guilty and therefore tried to get it changed to be inconclusive. Had Maybelele actually been present for the situation, your initial story would’ve been factually different as you’d have had a valid defense. Instead you shot somebody who had not initiated on you and later tried to make up a story to cover it up. This will not fly. Positional logs also go to corroborate Maybelele’s story that suggests he was not in fact present for the initiation in the barn, nor was he pointing his gun at you. Due to this explanation, your radical change in story has been disregarded; A Clear fabrication.
 

You took a risk to snipe at a group of people clumped together that you did not fully have kill-rights on and it backfired, resulting in a kill on the wrong person. The kills are not a necessity or needed to push the RP and should not be your go to especially if you are on final. Due to these points pushing you over the 30 point limit this will result in your permanent removal from the community. We wish you luck elsewhere. 

 

Outcome:

@Leik - Invalid Kill (On sight) - 7-day ban & 10 warning-points, resulting in a permanent removal from the community.

 

Signed by : @Jade & @Para