S1: BadRP Zaprudnoe - 2020-07-22 3:30

[cjackson821]

Server and location: S1 - Zaprudnoe

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 2020-07-22 3:30

Your in game name: Ivan Belic

Names of allies involved: Finn Richtofen @Lord Seal

Name of suspect/s: Unknown - logs will show

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): GAZ

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): Video and screenshot included 

Detailed description of the events: 
Ivan and Finn "Charcoal", were headed to meet some friends down the road, when a truck carrying numerous people pass by. OOCly Charcoal freaks out a little, so Ivan tries to calm him and we focus on IC character chat. We see the truck turn around and figure we would stop to have some RP, especially since we thought it was RAC and we thought we would have a good chat. However, instead they were met by numerous hostile individuals who requested them to shut off the vehicle and get out. Seeing that they had guns, Ivan and Charcoal listened to their demands and got out. They asked to check ID's which Ivan and Charcoal both passed and were meet with an initiation as a result of Charcoal's German passport. The initiators then restrained Ivan and Charcoal, stripped them of gear and made them walk away from the truck. Then they proceeded to knock both of them out and leave with the GAZ. 

Video Evidence: 

Part of the video is blurred out, due to the fact I opened my discord overlay (at the time we had not been initiated on and I still had my phone and radio in game). There is information that shows that I do not want metagamed by anyone viewing this report. I can show an unedited version of that portion to admins upon request if necessary. 

The interaction provided very little roleplay. There were many missed opportunities that they could have done to further roleplay with us. They could have questioned who we were or what we were doing. They could have even asked what the matching armbands were about and who we worked for. Instead they focused on getting our gear and our car and speeding off as quick as they could with no roleplay besides a lame initiation. They were so focused on a quick robbery that they did not take the time to see that they took all my food and water, while taking Charcoal's water as well. In addition, they left both of us restrained in an area infected frequently roam. I had to go to help desk to figure out we had to log to get out of the cuffs, because currently you cannot struggle to get out of restraints.

Overall the roleplay was non-existent, besides focusing on gaining gear as quick as possible and leaving. They did not care an ounce about roleplaying with our characters and decided to get out as quick as they could without even noticing they were leaving us in a very bad position (with one food item and no water) with the strong possibility of getting killed if there was any infected nearby due to the restraints. 

Below is a picture of my inventory after the robbery showing that I have no food or water (because it was in my plate carrier they swapped out for the ugly one I have on in photo). 

[Banshee]

Logs are being pulled as we speak, in the meanwhile; @cjackson821 would it be possible for you to upload an un-edited video to YouTube for us and send it to me in a PM on the forums or Discord.

[Banshee]

Connection Logs

Ivan Belic:
	02:11:43 | Player "Ivan Belic" is connected
	04:30:00 | SERVER RESTART

Finn Richtofen:
	02:22:55 | Player "Finn Richtofen" is connected
	04:10:52 | Player "Finn Richtofen" has been disconnected
	04:14:16 | Player "Finn Richtofen" is connected
	04:30:00 | SERVER RESTART

Winslow Smulders:
	00:09:19 | Player "Winslow Smulders" is connected
	04:30:00 | SERVER RESTART

Shane Carter:
	00:09:19 | Player "Shane Carter" is connected
	04:10:52 | Player "Shane Carter" has been disconnected
	04:12:35 | Player "Shane Carter" is connected
	04:30:00 | SERVER RESTART

Nathaniel Hodgetts:
	00:09:48 | Player "Nathaniel Hodgetts" is connected
	04:10:52 | Player "Nathaniel Hodgetts" has been disconnected
	04:12:35 | Player "Nathaniel Hodgetts" is connected
	04:30:00 | SERVER RESTART

Ashley Blake:
	00:09:49 | Player "Ashley Blake" is connected
	04:10:52 | Player "Ashley Blake" has been disconnected
	04:12:35 | Player "Ashley Blake" is connected
	04:30:00 | SERVER RESTART

Preston Waters:
	01:02:19 | Player "Preston Waters" is connected
	04:10:52 | Player "Preston Waters" has been disconnected
	04:12:35 | Player "Preston Waters" is connected
	04:30:00 | SERVER RESTART

Burke Stanley:
	01:56:50 | Player "Burke Stanley" is connected
	04:10:17 | Player "Burke Stanley" has been disconnected
	04:13:00 | Player "Burke Stanley" is connected
	04:30:00 | SERVER RESTART

Leon O Donahue:
	01:34:46 | Player "Leon O Donahue" is connected
	02:57:59 | Player "Leon O Donahue" has been disconnected
	02:59:23 | Player "Leon O Donahue" is connected
	04:10:52 | Player "Leon O Donahue" has been disconnected
	04:13:02 | Player "Leon O Donahue" is connected
	04:30:00 | SERVER RESTART

 

Hit Logs

03:29:29 | Player "Ivan Belic" hit by Player "Winslow Smulders" into RightArm(19) for 34 damage (MeleeSledgeHammer_Heavy) with Sledgehammer
03:29:31 | Player "Ivan Belic" is unconscious
03:29:31 | Player "Finn Richtofen" hit by Player "Winslow Smulders" into LeftArm(18) for 25 damage (MeleeSledgeHammer) with Sledgehammer
03:29:33 | Player "Finn Richtofen" hit by Player "Winslow Smulders" into LeftArm(18) for 25 damage (MeleeSledgeHammer) with Sledgehammer
03:29:33 | Player "Finn Richtofen" is unconscious

03:30:13 | Player "Finn Richtofen" regained consciousness
03:30:14 | Player "Ivan Belic" regained consciousness

 

Action Logs

03:28:09 | Winslow Smulders restrained Ivan Belic with Handcuffs
03:28:20 | Shane Carter restrained Finn Richtofen with Rope

 

Position Logs

03:28:48 | Player "Winslow Smulders" pos=<5258.2, 12699.8, 161.6>
03:28:48 | Player "Shane Carter" pos=<5257.5, 12701.3, 161.7>
03:28:48 | Player "Nathaniel Hodgetts" pos=<5272.1, 12691.9, 162.8>
03:28:48 | Player "Ashley Blake" pos=<5270.9, 12691.4, 162.9>
03:28:48 | Player "Preston Waters" pos=<5260.0, 12699.8, 161.6>
03:28:48 | Player "Ivan Belic" pos=<5258.0, 12701.4, 161.7>
03:28:48 | Player "Finn Richtofen" pos=<5258.9, 12700.7, 161.6>
03:28:48 | Player "Burke Stanley" pos=<5258.8, 12699.5, 161.6>
03:28:48 | Player "Leon O Donahue" pos=<5257.3, 12699.5, 161.6>

 

Chat Logs

03:26:00 | Ivan Belic: *Pulls beat up Chernarussian passport* //name is Ivan Belic on passport 
03:27:31 | Finn Richtofen: *Pulls out a German Passport and Vacation Visa* // Finn Richtofen
03:29:16 | Burke Stanley: *BREAKS RADIOS
03:31:26 | Finn Richtofen: *Contacts Mason through his phone using his nose*
03:37:27 | Ivan Belic: //just log

 

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Calling In
Please provide your full & detailed point of view regarding this situation, list any allies relevant to this situation, and provide any (video) evidence you may have.

Reporting Party
@cjackson821 | Ivan Belic | POSTED
@Lord Seal | Finn Richtofen | POSTED

Defending Party
@iswearimjapanese | Winslow Smulders | POSTED
@Tokyo | Shane Carter | POSTED
@Nathaniel | Nathaniel Hodgetts | POSTED
@Ozia | Ashley Blake | POSTED 
@OblivionCross | Preston Waters | POSTED
@Lt Stanley | Burke Stanley | POSTED
@Xilinara | Leon O Donahue | POSTED

[Lt Stanley]

So from my perspective  I was freinds with the other people I was with and i got them together to go rob ivan because he kicked me out of the bar for things that happened in the past so me and my group made a plan to rob them when we stopped a vehicle having a plan to take the truck without knowing it was ivan until he took out his id and found out it was ivan giving me a reason to stay and continue.  So in order for them to not know our motives and not know who I was because I was affiliated with the bar we made a rp scenario of finding out if they were germans or not. When we found out one was german our Jewish freinds did not like them so that was even more of a motive. We wanted to continue but as our group was valuing our lifes I knew that they had more people because I was apart of the bar for a while. With us knowing that they had people coming we decided to move things along and took them over in the ditch and took their weapons and gear so they could not trace us to where we went or harm us. We took them to the ditch and cuffed them and nocked them out close to a town with a well and with food on them as well as in a ditch outside of the town so no infected would harm them when they woke up. We also destroyed their comms and then left with the truck while needing the truck and having the motives I see this as a normal robbery even with the 6 mins we still value our life and would do what's best for them and us with out harming them.

[Tokyo]

My perspective, We were driving to the bar to help our friend get back on someone. When we were driving down the road we seen a truck that we all agreed to take off them. We stopped and started the RP by asking them for ID to find out who they were. I feel like the RP was great and we did everything correct, we left them with food on his friend and there was a well near by. We took them off the road so they wouldn't get hit by a car, as that street is highly populated, so they also wouldn't get ate by infected. We wanted to get out of there as soon as possible for our safety and theirs.

[ImCharcoal]

Charcoal's POV:

I was chauffeuring for Mr. Belic A.K.A Ivan Belic @cjackson821  to do some bar work when we see an approaching Kamaz Truck speeding on the opposite lane. I slow down the vehicle as to not cause any mishaps and collision. Ivan and I then sees a glimpse of people inside the truck and at first glance we thought was RAC and was looking forward to talking to them. As the assailants disembark their vehicle we were asked to turn the vehicle off in which we happily complied. As a man ordered us to get out of the vehicle I had asked twice before getting an answer if I can get out of the vehicle due to me having a gun on my lap. After I was told it was okay, I quickly hop off and holster my weapon. I jog to Ivan and proceed to confront what the men wanted, we we're asked to show some form of identification in which we again happily complied in showing. After Ivan showed his passport they turn to me and I proceed to give them my German passport. The men quickly got hostile due to my German Identification telling us to put our hands up and go up against the Kamaz, we proceed to do as such. They proceed to disarm us and even took food and liquid, after they completed their search they handcuff Ivan and I. They tell us to follow one of them in which we did they tell us to look at a tree in which we did. After complying we we're met with a sledgehammer to the back going unconscious ending the RP.

The RP was bland to the point where both of our name apart from Charcoals last name wasn't even uttered by the assailants. No detailed questioning and provided little to none role play. As I engaged them to RP on numerous occasion such as me asking if getting out of the vehicle with a gun is okay due to it being on my lap, I was treated with silence unless I ask further. The assailants in my opinion we not there to RP and was more interested in The GAZ I even try to engage again by asking "What's wrong with being German?" and  I was met with repetitious answers of "It was always the Germans" without further elaboration. So many opportunities missed during the hostile RP.  We weren't asked for our affiliation, the significance of our armband... etc. During the 5 minute span of the RP we weren't able to understand their motives and cause of hostilities against Germans apart from what I can only assume is their on their own words "Disliking Germans due to previous experience." (Paraphrasing) They just seemed uninterested in keeping conversation for the sake of RP and was more to prioritizing their safety with a quick get away with their newly found GAZ.

[Nathaniel]

I was the driver in the Kamaz,  I was in the vehicle during this Interaction, But I witnessed and could hear everything being exchanged between the parties.
 Winslow Smulders Opens up in dialogue  with the two gentlemen in the gaz, The two gentlemen  Having left the vehicle when asked.   Winslow Smulders begins to further roleplay with 
the two gentlemen asking them to see some Identification, he then roleplays saying "your I.d Is on the floor right there" he kneels down and roleplays putting his I.D  on the floor, which 
 Ivan Belic also roleplays picking it up (goodjob to you both on the roleplay) It was entertaining to watch.  Winslow Smulders begins to ask  Finn Richtofen for his I.D,  Finn Richtofen Is not responsive, and winslow smulders says "he is very quite, It's very strange" something those lines. I'm assuming this was to due to him Typing out His roleplay with the Identification.
Preston Waters Inspecting Finn Richtofen  makes the  decision to hold up the gentlemen, Winslow Smulders begins to join in and   point his weapon at ivan, ivan and finn Are ordered to face the truck and to put there hands up, Preston waters tells the party to remove and radio's  from the held up couple. the couple are led away to open a more open area away from the main road  for there safety in-case of passing vehicle that could potentially run them over,  at this point Burke Stanley  roleplays that he *breaks the radios*. Winslow Smulders  continuing to Interact with the couple tell them to face a certain way, they are knocked on conscious  and the group quickly retreats. 
I understand that this wasn't to the standard of roleplay to the Ivan Belic and Finn Richtofen Expected, but this is what they were offered. I felt it was Interactive  for them and the roleplay was acceptable by the party. 

[Duke]

To the hostage takers: Who is the fella who sound like Darth Vader?

[cjackson821]

I would also like to add attempted KOS x2 for @iswearimjapanese. He sledgehammered two compliant hostages without asking perms, which had a strong possibility of killing either one of us. 

I would also like to point out that this is not the first instance with @OblivionCross, @Xilinara, and @iswearimjapanese in which they have provided poor RP toward our group. During that time they were reminded - "As an attacker you may NOT: - Attack other players just for the sake of gear by doing a quick robbery that involves little to no role play." So it seems to be a common theme to come after the bar and not care for the roleplay they give. 

Moving on - 

5 hours ago, Lt Stanley said:

go rob ivan because he kicked me out of the bar for things that happened in the past

Never were apart of the bar or kicked out. You literally assisted in a huge uproar that got the group kicked out of Berezino, but I digress.  

5 hours ago, Lt Stanley said:

we made a rp scenario of finding out if they were germans or not. When we found out one was german our Jewish freinds did not like them so that was even more of a motive.

If that was your motive, why was it not fleshed out more? The motive was clearly made up on the spot and not like you came into the scenario to find out if we were Germans. Its not WW2, its 2020, so once again, it was a troll excuse to be hostile and not a motive. 

The one thing I would really like to know though, is if you were really going to "rob" the bar and you literally caught the owner miles away from the bar with one other AND had him held up, why would you not do something with that? You all so far have claimed because "I have friends" you did not want to stick around, but what would have happened had we had the confrontation at the bar instead (where you insist you were going to rob us anyway)? There was 7 of you all armed with weapons and you were afraid of someone coming across us? Despite that, you had 2 vehicles capable of moving everyone to an undisclosed location, but didn't take that opportunity either. You saw a shiny truck and two guys with gear and that was it. If your motivation was to really come after the bar, then you really didn't care about roleplay whatsoever because you did nothing when you had the bar owner in front of you besides take his gear and run away. 

[Ozia]

I am Ashley Blake.  I was the passenger / navigator in the Kamaz,  you know that men get lost so easily - they need a woman giving them directions.  I was navigating the group to the bar where the plan was; once we arrived at the bar to only send in a few people to asses the climate inside, depending on the climate inside the bar next actions would have been determined.  Upon driving there we drove past the Gaz with two people inside.  When we turned around we had no idea that it was the bar owner.  I felt no need to exit the vehicle since we already had a much larger group than the Gaz was able to hold.  RP was presented to the hostages by asking for identification.  One of the hostages was very cooperative and the other needed to be encouraged more to get out of the vehicle.  The hostages themselves were very quiet during the entire hold-up.  There was comment, made like Nathaniel had stated, about them being very quiet which was very strange.  Due to the quiet nature of the hostages it had made us very nervous and led us to assume that more people were incoming -which was why the hostages seemed so calm.  While we were a larger group we did not want to get into an altercation that we result in putting our lives in danger so we decided that it was best to take immediate action.  The hostages were restrained again presenting them with RP.  There was more RP when a rant was starting about the German's always causing us problems - nothing was communicated back by the hostages about them not wanting to cause problems.  Again, due to the quiet nature of the hostages our group got nervous and things moved quickly - from putting their hands up, to restraining them, to moving them to the side of the road and then knocking them out. The hostages were left near a town and out of danger from other traffic on the road.

I do believe that while the RP might have been short it was present.  The robbers were more vocal than the hostages. Prior to the escalation of events  (which is where I can the hostages fearing for their lives and not communicating as much) the conversation from the hostages was minimal.  

Edited July 22, 2020 by Ozia

[cjackson821]

13 minutes ago, Ozia said:

There was comment, made like Nathaniel had stated, about them being very quiet which was very strange.  Due to the quiet nature of the hostages it had made us very nervous and led us to assume that more people were incoming -which was why the hostages seemed so calm.  While we were a larger group we did not want to get into an altercation that we result in putting our lives in danger so we decided that it was best to take immediate action. 

Sorry our words per second count is not very high, but it takes a moment to type out handing over ID that you were asking for. And after we did pass over our ID's that is when weapons were pointed, in which the roleplay was then rushed, which there was 2 mins from when the initiation dropped and you all left. No adequate time to roleplay. 
Also your statement seems to highly contradicting to your actions and supposedly what your plans were. Everyone has thus stated that you were coming to rob the bar, yet you say that you weren't looking for an altercation. 

20 minutes ago, Ozia said:

One of the hostages was very cooperative and the other needed to be encouraged more to get out of the vehicle.

And most likely because you all were talking in a discord, you didn't hear Charcoal ask about having the gun in his lap because he didn't want to jump out with a gun in his hands when you all were clearly being aggressive. 

[cjackson821]

6 hours ago, Lt Stanley said:

our Jewish freinds did not like them so that was even more of a motive.

I would like to add lying in a report against @Lt Stanley. If you look at all of their character pages, none of them state anything about being Jewish. In fact, the majority of them have a religion listed except @OblivionCross, which still goes against @Lt Stanley's statement 
 
 

[Ozia]

In response:

We were going to the bar with the intentions of robbing it.  However, that was going to be depending on the situation at the bar when we arrived.  Which is why we were going to send only a few people inside to assess the situation. So this is not contradicting. I just went into more details on the how the plan to rob the bar was going to be executed.  The end game was to hopefully successfully rob the bar without loss of life.  We didn't want an altercation in the road that put our lives in danger, since it seemed that more were incoming with how calm the hostages were.  Which is why we hurried out of there.  We would not have executed a plan at the bar had the situation not been ideal for us to leave without casualties.

There was an issue for us where the driver was invisible at the start.  We did hear him mention his gun; however, we continue to state to get out of the car because of the issue where we couldn't see him.

Edited July 22, 2020 by Ozia

[OblivionCross]

For one of like to say this is some craziness. Anyway though onto the POV we were truckin along lookin for a a UAZ mostly since that Kamaz isn't exactly nimble or inconspicuous. We end up deciding after a few stops to go to the bar. On our way we end up seeing this GAZ and decide to wheel around to go stop it and they stop for us actually something that already did put us at some unease. After the driver and passenger get out there is alot of silence atleast on my end but I'm wondering if I was having audio issues as this happened earlier as well. But either way lots of silence besides the IDs. Once one of our guys learns this is Ivan he has some ill will against the guy and then the other one speaks up and mentions he's a German. And we move for the initiation on those grounds seeing as we don't really want to go around letting people know who we are or what problems we might have so grabbing the it's a German reasoning for them to see was in our interests. We do end up assuming since it is Ivan and they seem to be moving some supplies "a locker contents unknown at the time" that there has got to be more people they are in radio contact with this idea is reinforced by the quiet ordeal. Either way we end up making the call to grab the truck and KO the hostages since we did not want them to see which way we went to relay said info to the assumed compatriots. As for the "oh man that totally kills people all the time" BS that the one guy said the power swing to the head from the hammer is a KO every time to someone without a helmet we did check both the pulses to make sure you were both at full HP so everyone there knew it wasn't going to kill you. And so we continue. We are going down the road not even 5 minutes pass and we get to a seemingly too convenient to be true roadblock that seemed to be waiting for us if anything. With the close proximity and the fact that we had been the other way up that road not even 20 minutes? Or so prior. Unsure if these road block people were with the ones in the GAZ but at the time it would seem they were. Anyway we see a Kamaz and a Gunter blocking the road and assuming the worst unable to get a proper head count we slam thru their Kamaz with the expert driving skills of @Nathaniel and continue past I try to use the GAZ to block some shots and it works mostly we only lose 2 from the back of the truck. All in all though a pretty clean job if I do say so myself. I do have to ask in situations like that if we are still going for realism here since when do the robbers stop n have a cup of tea n ask how your day is before the robbery especially when they have reason to believe sticking around too long is going to put them in a bad spot? It would nearly be NVFL if we just hung around knowing it was going to end badly for us.

[cjackson821]

4 minutes ago, OblivionCross said:

if we are still going for realism here since when do the robbers stop n have a cup of tea n ask how your day is before the robbery especially when they have reason to believe sticking around too long is going to put them in a bad spot? It would nearly be NVFL if we just hung around knowing it was going to end badly for us.

You're playing DayZRP, which is a roleplay server in which you are required to roleplay. If you want to do quick little robberies for fun, then you should play vanilla. And to claim that it would be NVFL for you to stick around is the most outrageous statement to be said yet. Despite you contradicting you compatriots by saying that you were looking for a car and not going to rob the bar, a group of 7 individuals would be the least likely group of individuals to be hit with an NVFL even if someone was coming to save us. But like I asked before, why wouldn't you just put us in the back of the truck and take us somewhere else? 

[Lt Stanley]

28 minutes ago, cjackson821 said:

You're playing DayZRP, which is a roleplay server in which you are required to roleplay. If you want to do quick little robberies for fun, then you should play vanilla. And to claim that it would be NVFL for you to stick around is the most outrageous statement to be said yet. Despite you contradicting you compatriots by saying that you were looking for a car and not going to rob the bar, a group of 7 individuals would be the least likely group of individuals to be hit with an NVFL even if someone was coming to save us. But like I asked before, why wouldn't you just put us in the back of the truck and take us somewhere else? 

It doesnt matter whether you liked the rp or not there was still rp and it was longer then 5 mins. We had no reason to take you somewhere else because our plan was to take the truck and leave after finding out it was you I knew there would be more coming and it was a dangerous situation so to save you guys and us from any harm we left as soon as possible and also I would like to add one of the people have disabilitys causing his personality to change there for there is no need for him to be Jewish on the character stated as well as you dont have to be that religion to hide motives. If you did not like the rp you could have also asked us questions but you chose to stay quiet and sit there. We did talk to you and did do things swift as a real robbery on a high traffic road should be. We are not going to sit there and talk to you asking questions when I already provided everything to them since I was with you guys. Also to add I was with the bar group and assisted in the fight at the bar. Ivan did kick 4 people out which was me and callie and 2 others and would not let us back even though we have solved issues. This did cause a motive for stanley and gave a reason for him to hate ivan. He could have asked who we were and things like that even though he was scared. If you complain about bad rp you cant sit there and stay quiet yourselfs. You also cant say we didnt give you a chance because we didnt attack you right away. 

[cjackson821]

2 minutes ago, Lt Stanley said:

We are not going to sit there and talk to you asking questions when I already provided everything to them since I was with you guys

How could you have provided everything to them when you weren't talking, except in your Darth Vader voice changer? 
(Didn't want to add that to your POV, despite being asked) 

4 minutes ago, Lt Stanley said:

Ivan did kick 4 people out which was me and callie and 2 others and would not let us back even though we have solved issues.

And you didn't solve them yet, but keep lying in the report. 

5 minutes ago, Lt Stanley said:

If you complain about bad rp you cant sit there and stay quiet yourselfs. You also cant say we didnt give you a chance because we didnt attack you right away. 

I was hardly given the opportunity to talk about anything so you're wrong, I can say that. Charcoal tried to bring up the Good Doctor being German, but you all avoided responding to his comment. So, you can't claim we were quiet. We didn't know what you wanted until you pointed guns and gave a problem about being German, which your story is now changing to add in that your friend has a disability and can't remember what religion he is? If you knew that ICly, why wouldn't you stop him and say that you aren't Jewish? Why didn't you bring that up in the original POV? And if this is true, which person is it so we can look at their character page and check if that is true and you aren't making this up for convenience at this point? 

[Lt Stanley]

One I did talk because I walked away from you guys also I dont need to talk there because they knew what the armbands were because I told them before hand what you guys wear I also told them your information that I knew from the old bar about how many there were and so on. Also we did solve the situation so dont even start with the lying. I dont need to talk to the rac to solve a issue that's how you change names and clothing obviously it worked on you. And I dont need to add in about the personality disorder because it wasn't relevant I dont need to stop him as it was my characters first time robbing people so he was frantic and ready to go. You cant use any of that because it is not valid. You simply put a report up over losing loot because you stay neutral and everyone robs you. You also did have chance to speak and your mic was quiet we even started to speak up. It's not our fault you dont speak louder when you are talked to. At the end of the day no rule was broke because one we dont need to ask perms to knock you out two we did rp even if you didnt like it, three we did leave you on the side of the road i. Safety away from zombies but close enough to get water from the well and food on your freind to share, and finally we have motives to rob people so it was perfectly fine what we did. If you dont like it that's you but as I can see it 7 people liked it and 2 did not even if we are all together that is still majority. We are not going to stay around so the people you radioed could come shoot us. 

[cjackson821]

10 minutes ago, Lt Stanley said:

I dont need to talk to the rac to solve a issue that's how you change names and clothing obviously it worked on you.

So you didn't solve it, thank you for admitting that and using a voice changer and talking in front of me for two seconds doesn't qualify me as not being able to recognize you. 

11 minutes ago, Lt Stanley said:

And I dont need to add in about the personality disorder because it wasn't relevant

It is relevant, as you mentioned it as motive. So which character has the personality disorder? 

[Lt Stanley]

As I said talking isn't the only way to solve the issue you can change names and clothing and its solved because they cant recognize you and to it is not relevant because you dont have to be jewish or a personality disorder to have fake motives to his identitys it's called rp.

[cjackson821]

4 minutes ago, Lt Stanley said:

As I said talking isn't the only way to solve the issue you can change names and clothing and its solved because they cant recognize you and to it is not relevant because you dont have to be jewish or a personality disorder to have fake motives to his identitys it's called rp.

But now you are claiming you did because your friend has a personality disorder, so I want to confirm it. So once again, which person was it? 

[Duke]

If I may interject here. @Lt Stanley you seem to be a chatty one, so I ask again.

Who is Darth Vader with the gas-mask?

[Lt Stanley]

It's me I was using a voice changer for the mask breathing and for the mask. @Duke

[Duke]

@Lt Stanley thank you for your reply.

[Lt Stanley]

So then tell me this who was the people 5 mins down the road coming? Were they talking to you?