Finding recruits for new group after lore wipe.

[Truemonkh]

Hello there fellow Role Players

I'm creating this thread to find people and to gauge the interest in a group that I'm working on after the lore wipe. This thread is also supposed to work as a general idea collection space since I believe that more people bringing in great ideas will make this group the best it can be.

The Basic Outline

The initial idea for this group came about from two places. One of those places was the desire to create a group that is not like a lot of the other groups that keep popping up. Sure playing a super soldier in some sort of military group is fun to do but I wanted to create something different that would still allow for many different play styles. 
So the inspiration came about when I started thinking of a new character for me. I'm a Swiss cheese and I thought about Swiss stereotypes. One of those is that we're all money hungry bankers that eat chocolate all day. So I thought: Why not create a Bank? 
This is were the initial outline of the CBC, the Central Bank of Chernarus, was created. The backstory of this group is still being worked on but I've already gathered a few great ideas. I'm sure most on this forum have seen Game of Thrones (and no this is not supposed to spark a discussion about the last season). If you have seen it, you probably remember the Iron Bank. I find the idea behind it quite intriguing so I worked with that idea to create the CBC. 

What we'd do

The play structure of the group is going to involve a lot of business meetings for the higher ups (positions still open). However, if certain debts aren't repaid in time or someone hires our forces we'd be more than ready to go to war. We wouldn't have any sort of alliance other than to those people that mean the most profit to us so that further trading can be accomplished. I already outlined the idea in my document about the "Sharks" (a word play on 'loan sharks'). Those would be the grunts and would make up the bulk of the group. Whether they go break someone's kneecaps because they didn't pay us back or whether they protect/fill up the vault or go to war to hold up our end of the bargain or to create market demand by emptying other peoples stashes (obviously not under the name of the bank  ). Of course for the employees of the bank are going to receive payments so business needs to be kept up at a high frequency. 

Personally I see a lot of potential in a corrupt and warmongering bank group and in my opinion it's something way different from most other groups. It's still under heavy construction but mostly I need potential recruits to kick start the group right away after the lore wipe. So anyone seeing themselves in this group is more than welcome to post here.
Also I'm very open to suggestions on how to improve the group. Anything that you think would work with it and should be added, feel free to point it out right here.

This is a first draft for the logo of the group. Subject to change.

Also not sure if this was the place to post this but I want to create a bit of discussion around this idea.

Edited May 18, 2020 by Truemonkh

[S.Bradley]

Though I do like your idea, I suggest you wait till you get more info on the new lore since apparently very different than what we are used to. Pulse would love to see some higher ups in suits, guarded walking around. 

[Brayces]

No community based groups for the first month or so of LW, keep this in mind.

Just a friendly reminder. 

[Truemonkh]

Yes, only the basic outline is being worked on since we don't know what the exact lore will be. But yes that would be quite fun, wouldn't it?

1 minute ago, Brayces said:

No community based groups for the first month or so of LW, keep this in mind.

Just a friendly reminder. 

That is definitely in my mind. But in the official announcement from Hofer he said it's possible after the first two weeks or so. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Truemonkh said:

Yes, only the basic outline is being worked on since we don't know what the exact lore will be. But yes that would be quite fun, wouldn't it?

That is definitely in my mind. But in the official announcement from Hofer he said it's possible after the first two weeks or so. 

Something being possible doesn't mean it will happen. We shall see how events unfold with the new lore. The idea ain't bad, but keep it for up until an official announcement comes after some time from the lorewipe.

[Truemonkh]

Well yeah I'm not going to put anything up before it's allowed to create new groups, of course not. But I want to see general interest in the idea and hear people's opinion on if it could be pulled off.

2 hours ago, Woodzie said:

Something being possible doesn't mean it will happen. We shall see how events unfold with the new lore. The idea ain't bad, but keep it for up until an official announcement comes after some time from the lorewipe.

 

[Basko]

I am sure the staff team is up for something great with the new lore, but that doesn't mean people can't already have ideas and thoughts on what to do themselves after the wipe. I think to make the idea complete and working you ofcourse need to know the lore, but for now lets talk about the idea.

The idea seems quite interesting to me and is definitely something I've not seen before. A bank contiueing to carry it's status and position even in a world that goes to shit. It could be a quite present force and could give a sense of order and structure. There is a couple things though which I think you should think about if you want to make this work.

• Currency. What will the bank deal with? Rubles? Or will gold be the shiny glance of the new world. 
• Value. How will the bank ensure their currency keeps value in a world where people would rather have a can of food over a paper bill? Also what is in for it for the bank? What do they earn and what would be their motive behind continuing to control currency?
• Order. You mention using force to make sure people pay what they need to pay, but what do you do when the masses revolt against this, in world without order? I think you need a sort of governing controlling body to be able to sustain enough order to keep a bank up and running. 

Don't see this as criticism, but rather thoughts that pop up when I think about a bank in an apocalypse. Maybe by answering these questions for yourself, you get to a more solid idea. I hope this idea works out!

[Peril]

I'd love to see something like this crop up a few months into lore, once people really settle into it and things like trade have the possibility of opening up.  I think, should your suggestion for currency being added not come to fruition, you should definitely plan for a currency first.  Things like bullets are easy to divide up and hold value, if paper/coined money is scarce.

Good luck with your planning and recruitment!

[Craig]

I remember there was a group of lads running around doing Bank RP a while back.

[Truemonkh]

1 hour ago, Basko said:

Currency. What will the bank deal with? Rubles? Or will gold be the shiny glance of the new world. 

Value. How will the bank ensure their currency keeps value in a world where people would rather have a can of food over a paper bill? Also what is in for it for the bank? What do they earn and what would be their motive behind continuing to control currency?

Order. You mention using force to make sure people pay what they need to pay, but what do you do when the masses revolt against this, in world without order? I think you need a sort of governing controlling body to be able to sustain enough order to keep a bank up and running. 

Thanks very much for this feedback and don't worry about giving me criticism, I welcome it actually.
Yes some of these points I have definitely thought about. I think a value system needs to be evaluated (ha get it). Something that will be a big part of the bank is that we wouldn't just accept and trade with money. But it's more of a, you tell me what you need, we get it for you in return for something that we need. One thing that will be integral to the group is a well kept up stash. How exactly that will be pulled off is still in the works as well, because what kind of bank are you if you can't even keep your own vault protected?

The thing with the masses revolting against us is something I thought about as well and it is definitely a concern of mine. I think the solution though is that we'd try to form strong allies by investing in these allies. Like certain investments would not necessarily be of financial value to us but more of a safety value. Let's say we invest a certain amount of resources in a specific group that we see fit to invest in and they in return offer protection. Then on the side we'd make deals with other groups that would include some sort of interest rate, meaning that we'd get a constant "cash" flow to keep up the investment in the group that protects us. Like obviously we make it clear to people that we want to make fair deals. But to try and mess with that deal will have consequences.

But like I said, keep the ideas coming, great suggestions and really helpful! Take my BeanZ good sir!

[Reaper]

Still love the idea.
As i said in discord, sometimes these groups don't work but would be interesting to see how it does if your suggestion about money gets added to the game! 
Leading bank of Chernarus! 

[Hofer]

17 hours ago, Truemonkh said:

Yes, only the basic outline is being worked on since we don't know what the exact lore will be. But yes that would be quite fun, wouldn't it?

That is definitely in my mind. But in the official announcement from Hofer he said it's possible after the first two weeks or so. 

There will be no official groups (outside the lore factions) for the first month after the wipe.

Players are allowed to create group ideas and start working on stuff after two weeks. The dates are in the LW announcement thread.

As for tinkering with ideas etc right now, I would hold my horses until the lore is released. Once you have the full lore in your lap and is able to read it you can start forming ideas and creating things over the next two weeks until you are allowed to put it in a group thread mid June.

[AlecM]

For a group like this it would take more than a couple "bankers" in suits to keep the place running. If you are looking for a builder/ Mechanic I am writing the back story for one as the day of wipe approaches. 

I do miss group RP and when I heard about the wipe I was so hyped to help form a new group!

Edited May 19, 2020 by AlecM

[Player 1]

On 5/18/2020 at 10:41 AM, Truemonkh said:

 

Looks great! Best of luck with this. May I make a suggestion? Going to anyway, switch the first "C" so it's facing the other way. It might look cooler. 

[Truemonkh]

10 hours ago, America said:

Looks great! Best of luck with this. May I make a suggestion? Going to anyway, switch the first "C" so it's facing the other way. It might look cooler. 

I switched around both C's already while testing the design. The problem is the 'B' since it clearly points in one direction, so making one of the letters face another side doesn't really work I found out.

[BoomBewm]

On 5/18/2020 at 7:24 PM, Truemonkh said:

Yes some of these points I have definitely thought about. I think a value system needs to be evaluated (ha get it). Something that will be a big part of the bank is that we wouldn't just accept and trade with money. But it's more of a, you tell me what you need, we get it for you in return for something that we need. One thing that will be integral to the group is a well kept up stash. How exactly that will be pulled off is still in the works as well, because what kind of bank are you if you can't even keep your own vault protected?

I mean as the bank you get to make the value system. The minute you start taking vodka bottles and giving out M4's the value of a vodka bottle has just skyrocketed.

Only thing I can recommend is making the currency something readily available, but have absolutely zero survival world worth. Making the currency something like beans will take beans off of the market, but making it something like paper, or pens keeps everything on the market.

A really neat idea that I wish was possible would be making the currency like dexamphetamine or codeine or something. Where you could take the pills out and pay for a less expensive item like 12 pills for a Can of Beans.

Anyways that's my rant. 
Love the idea!

[DarthDink]

I would love to break some knee caps over a missed vic payment

[BoCy9]

I love this idea and concept for a group, and I would be interested in rping with you guys and possibly being apart of it once everything works out and fresh wipe drops. Good job man!

[Kira Mantis]

sign me in! this is such a fantastic idea!