SQUAD MSF-C

[groovy cali]

Hear ye, hear ye.

 

I propose a change of Mass's Many Items to SQUAD MSF-C.

 

Mass's:

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cringe!!!!!!

 

Now let me propose some screens from this new SQUAD MSF mod I've found;

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30+ country patches, and some familiar backpacks? POG!

 

Russian camo in a post soviet country?!?! NONSENSE!!!!

 

A combat belt that doesn't look like shit???

 

Customizable hats?!?!

 

even shit for you all-black wearing cringies?

 

This mod can literally remove more guns and Mass's all together, with a lot of weapons, attire, and other things that are very well modeled and textured.

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/changelog/1583941197

The changelog for the things added(gives you a better idea as to whats in the mod rather than steam screenshots)

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Main Military Gear:

Multicam

Multicam Snow / Winter

Multicam Black

Multicam Tropic

SURPAT

SURPAT Desert

A-TACS FG

A-TACS AU

Other Military Gear:

 

EMR, Flecktarn, Digital Navy, CADPAT, ACU, RMR, RMR Autumn, Kryptek Neptune, Kryptek Typhon, Kryptek Mandrake, Kryptek Banshee, Kryptek Wraith, Kryptek Raid, Red Black Gray, CSAT Hex, Hexatal, Umbrella Corp, STARS, STALKER, AOR2, Project Honor, Pantera

Items:

 

Gas Mask M50, Gas Mask M04, Gas Mask GP-21, Ops-Core Helmet, Tactical Mask, NVG for Ops-Core, Pegasus Tactical Backpack, Cargo Tactical Backpack, More Flags, IBH Helmets, Ballistic Goggles, New Face Mask, Tactical and WAR Belt, Altyn Helmet and Visor, JPC, Tac-Tec, Defender 2, 6B23, 6B45, MTV Vests, ZSh-1-2 Helmet and Visor, Tactical Glasses, Crye Gen G3

New Weapons:

 

RPK, AK-15 Prototype, AK-103, AS Val, AK Alfa, HK416, AR-15 IPSC, AR-15 SBR, AR-15, M16A4, Mossberg 590, Black Eagle II, AK-12M Prototype, AK-15M Prototype, AK-13M Prototype, RPK-74, AK-12, AK-15, RPK-16, ORSIS T-500, Barret M82, L96A1, OSV-96

 

Edited May 5, 2020 by groovy cali

[Clarence]

If it is possible to add it to the server, yes please. +1

[the tand]

+1

Weapons look way cooler, clothing looks wikd, loot tables wouldn't be filled with shit that looks like it belongs on a meme server. Give me gear that looks good please.

[Truemonkh]

I'm unsure about this. On one hand I do like what the mod has to offer, on the other hand I don't want the RP community to have so much more military gear to play with because it might decrease the variety in characters we see.

Will hold out my vote until I see some good arguments for both sides.

[Mexi]

1 minute ago, Truemonkh said:

I'm unsure about this. On one hand I do like what the mod has to offer, on the other hand I don't want the RP community to have so much more military gear to play with because it might decrease the variety in characters we see.

Will hold out my vote until I see some good arguments for both sides.

It’s a heavily militarised country that borders Russia? I’m unsure of the argument against more variety in clothing and cleaner, far more appealing camo’s and clothing attachments.

 

+1 for this addition.

[groovy cali]

13 minutes ago, Truemonkh said:

I'm unsure about this. On one hand I do like what the mod has to offer, on the other hand I don't want the RP community to have so much more military gear to play with because it might decrease the variety in characters we see.

Will hold out my vote until I see some good arguments for both sides.

It does not have a lot for civilian gear, thats right. However, if it was added, it wouldn't be hard to just put a few things from the mod into the loot cycle. We don't have to implement and spawn EVERY item from the mod, but the guns are good. More AK variants in post soviet country is perfectly fine. Has real-to-life camo's for local militaries(again, Russian, but also US military and others).

 

The issue is double edged. The amount of military RP as it is now is lacking because the uniforms are laughable and unrealistic. If the mod was unpackable I'd be 110% for it. Sadly it isn't so we're forced to use the entire, 1.1 Gb mod. The balance would be to remove at least Mass's, and ontop of that More Guns, since a lot more guns AND uniforms are added. It'd be an extensive task for the Dev team to go through, find the items we think would fit on the server, and add them to the loot tables. All while leaving the rest of the items removed from the game(only able to be spawned by admins, which would be cool for events I think!)

 

edit: 1.1 gig**

Edited May 5, 2020 by groovy cali

[Truemonkh]

Like I said, I'm not necessarily against it, I'm just not sure if it's the right thing the server needs right now. I do agree that some more and better looking military gear would be cool because who doesn't want to have that shit?? But I think it might be a bit of a detriment to RP. 
I think the best course of action would be to add some of the items from the mod and remove others from Mass' to improve realism and honestly I really want those velcro patches, especially the Swiss one. You know, gotta represent!

I'll give it a +1 for now though and we'll see what the rest of the community thinks.

[groovy cali]

Just now, Truemonkh said:

Like I said, I'm not necessarily against it, I'm just not sure if it's the right thing the server needs right now. I do agree that some more and better looking military gear would be cool because who doesn't want to have that shit?? But I think it might be a bit of a detriment to RP. 
I think the best course of action would be to add some of the items from the mod and remove others from Mass' to improve realism and honestly I really want those velcro patches, especially the Swiss one. You know, gotta represent!

I'll give it a +1 for now though and we'll see what the rest of the community thinks.

Again, that's the issue. We legally cannot unpack the mod. Meaning, we can't take "a little" of this and "a touch of that". It's all or nothing, we combat this by only having SOME of the items spawn ingame by tinkering with the loot spawns. So yes, the mod adds ALL of this; however the Devs would only make SOME of it spawn.

 

I'm not sure Mass's can be unpacked, and the fact it's a standalone mod makes me think that it isn't allowed to be unpacked.

 

Oh; side note. Sorry @Roland but this mod can't be monetized and put on the item store. :troll:

It would all have to be free and found in game.

[Whitename]

+10, the guns look really sick and given that it adds more than Mass's shit I'm totally down

[AidanRP]

+100 better than mAss by 1000

[Whitename]

37 minutes ago, Truemonkh said:

other hand I don't want the RP community to have so much more military gear to play with because it might decrease the variety in characters we see.

Players who already don military gear will don military gear. Those who don't, won't. On the contrary to this point it'll increase the variety of military clothing we see. I also think we should have more non-military clothes / weapons, but diversifying military loot is a +1 from me

[groovy cali]

Wanna be the only survivor of Seal Team Six when their plane crashed into the tower in Cherno?

 

This mod got you covered.

 

Ever played Escape from Tarkov and want to RP Killa?

 

 

This mod got you covered.

 

With the new guns and models for clothing, it allows you to diversify your attired with the elaborate types of camo.

It allows you to play that military soldier you wanted. Add's several new AK's and a lot more lore-fitting equipment.

[Mugin]

This would be a good addition as it would add some needed consistency with what is presented ig. Mass's is too across the board trying to cover many spots in a decent, but lacking manner. Play dough looking shirt textures, poorly modeled guns, and lacking animation with select ig items, joints, cigarettes. 

Perhaps the idea of one mod for military gear, such as this, civilian/Eastern European guns should be the priority with what is brought in by this mod. Then adding more civilian content, tanning and leather crafting, fishing, drug manufacturing. Items utilized in RP other than PvP, to cater to all. In a perfect world maybe.

Also I agree, but your poll stated it poorly, the store shouldn't be the restriction on what we add to the game. i.e. What Rolle profits from, and what we pay/paid for.

I am for revamping our mod pack as to gain realism and consistency with what we find ig.

All that being said, I appreciate the hard work Mass put in. I don't know how implementing an entire new mod pack would work, or its effect on server performance. Not to mention Rolle's profit margin - the 'priority'.
In the long run, what we pay for depends on what Rolle adds. Thus it's unlikely to be added. +1

[groovy ap]

in all honesty good mod tho, +1

Edited May 5, 2020 by APTerminator

[groovy cali]

6 minutes ago, Mugin said:

This would be a good addition as it would add some needed consistency with what is presented ig. Mass's is too across the board trying to cover many spots in a decent, but lacking manner. Play dough looking shirt textures, poorly modeled guns, and lacking animation with select ig items, joints, cigarettes. 

Perhaps the idea of one mod for military gear, such as this, civilian/Eastern European guns should be the priority with what is brought in by this mod. Then adding more civilian content, tanning and leather crafting, fishing, drug manufacturing. Items utilized in RP other than PvP, to cater to all. In a perfect world maybe.

Also I agree, but your poll stated it poorly, the store shouldn't be the restriction on what we add to the game. i.e. What Rolle profits from, and what we pay/paid for.

I am for revamping our mod pack as to gain realism and consistency with what we find ig.

All that being said, I appreciate the hard work Mass put in. I don't know how implementing an entire new mod pack would work, or its effect on server performance. Not to mention Rolle's profit margin - the 'priority'.
In the long run, what we pay for depends on what Rolle adds. Thus it's unlikely to be added. +1

I agree if we remove Mass + more weapons in exchange for this mod, we fill the gap left with another mod for roleplaying.

 

However, as all know I'm a shit roleplayer and only care for guns and flashy uniforms, so my research into finding a good RP mod is lacking, but yes, someone should add another mod to fill the gap I 100% agree.

[Wbtrex]

Iiiiiiiiiiiiii don't normally comment on this stuff 'cuz I cba but this is actually a pretty sound suggestion, as I am an all-black cringie.

+1.

[Guest Generic Name]

 

These items look great I wouldn't mind seeing them on the server.

Now we just need a mod with Adidas striped armors and helmets for immersion.

Edited May 5, 2020 by Generic Name

[the tand]

Just for anyone feeling a bit wonky about whether or not this is legit due to it being made by Russians who are immune to copyright.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yz2culzr4k1zoeSolbbJSNKCOaqwL3oCEJyK-UsbA5g/edit
 

Pretty much outlines the sources of all of the files for the mod, where they've got it from - bought or royalty free models.
 

Overall just proves that it's not sketchy like the mods that the Arma Opposition guys make (Different Russians that rip shit off of games for arma).

[AndreyQ]

Played with this mod on pvp servers, it ain't bad. However, I don't want more guns removed as it provides me the MP7, which helps me get beanz on the forums from time to time.

[groovy cali]

1 minute ago, AndreyQ said:

Played with this mod on pvp servers, it ain't bad. However, I don't want more guns removed as it provides me the MP7, which helps me get beanz on the forums from time to time.

Just slap an ak74U with a 70 round drum in ur jacket

[Nonplayer]

I've played on PVP servers with this mod and I can say its a solid mod. I especially like the idea of country patches, this feature can be adapted on DayzRP real nicely. And about removal of mass many items, we shouldn't remove it, perhaps just remove spawns for weapons like wolf AR's and other more unusual items/guns. All in all +1 from me, very solid mod.

[MrSpetzer]

As much of a bitch ass campfire RP'er as I am, I wouldn't mind having some more diverse military styled gear, since my German character has some military gear, I wouldn't mind getting one of those patched for Germany if there is one. +1

 

[Roland]

6 hours ago, groovy cali said:

Oh; side note. Sorry @Roland but this mod can't be monetized and put on the item store. :troll:

It would all have to be free and found in game.

Denied

[MrSpetzer]

2 minutes ago, Roland said:

Denied

oof

[the tand]

2 minutes ago, Roland said:

Denied

now thats just not cool