Buff Pistol Calibers

[Zero]

People have told me that pistol calibers are still pretty bad. When I played last I witnessed someone attempt an execution but had to use 3 shots to finally kill the man (9mm, no headgear). Infected can take 2-3 shots of 9mm or .45 ACP to the head. Now veterans of DayZ will remember the famous UMP. Back in the DayZ the gun was an absolute beast, now it’s a pea shooter that no one uses unless they have nothing else. I propose that pistol calibers get a major upgrade. By doing this maybe we can increase the likelihood of pistols and sub machine guns being a viable option for PvP instead of paper weight fashion accessories. 

Edited April 30, 2020 by Zero

[Finn]

Yes, although they lack in velocity they make up for in stopping power.

A rifle round will pierce through you, however a pistol round will likely put you on the ground.

+1 would love to see pistols used, even maybe new ammo types (Hollow-point, rubber bullets, etc).

[Angel]

I'd even go as far as making these lower calibers better and reducing spawn rate of higher calibers. Right now, as it seems, unless you have assault rifles, you really don't stand much of a chance. SMGs and Pistols feel no different from each other, and the jump to Assault Rifles is extremely dramatic.

Would also make carrying a smaller but powerful weapon a good approach, as well as useful.

+1, and I'd even go further.

[Finn]

1 minute ago, Angel said:

I'd even go as far as making these lower calibers better and reducing spawn rate of higher calibers. Right now, as it seems, unless you have assault rifles, you really don't stand much of a chance. SMGs and Pistols feel no different from each other, and the jump to Assault Rifles is extremely dramatic.

Would also make carrying a smaller but powerful weapon a good approach, as well as useful.

+1, and I'd even go further.

I agree, in most zombie movies you see everyone using pistols.

Many people strive to get drum mag assault rifles for use in PVP.

[Duplessis]

If I could get away with only carrying a pistol for protection, by God I would. So yes, lease buff pistols.

[TheMcgregor]

Yes yes yes! Nobody uses pistols and this is why! Reduce automatic rifles spawn rate and increase pistols whilst also making them a lot more powerful. I’m pretty sure in 99.9% of cases a 9mm bullet from a pistol to the head would kill.

Edited April 30, 2020 by TheMcgregor

[Muse]

Yes, doesn't makes sense 45 making little damage, irl a 45 would powder a head leaving no traces  (ok i'm exaggerating a bit). But I like the concept of people using more pistols than rifles, in movies and shows u mostly see people walking with pistols in the apocalypse

[CamoRP]

To be honest, carrying a shotgun loaded in 00Buckshot or a .308 hunting rifle is the only plausible weapon to use in order to fight a squadron of men wielding assault rifles if you can't afford such weapons.

I feel like Handguns should be more lethal than they currently are. In regards to killing infected. I still stand that .22 & .380 should remain weak against infected, and humans with head armor.

[Player 1]

Yes, I do agree, and I'm pretty sure I brought this suggestion up myself. You can't get around any of the maps unless you have a rifle or a high caliber rifle. It's ridiculous. And I'm not talking about zombies. A wolf can take x2 .308 rounds to the head now. Oh and I'm not the only one who proposed this in the past. Check this out @Hofer:

 

 

Edited April 30, 2020 by America

[TarynBR]

Used to have a g19 with a silencer for infected. 1 headshot and they would die. Now it takes 2 shots per infected. Pretty pointless. 

Buff pistol dmg and lower higher caliber spawn rates. 

+1

[Thrynn]

+1, at moment Pistol Calibers are as powerful as Mosquito's fart, what actually forces people to use high caliber weapons.

[Faebloom]

+1, I have to say that not only should pistol calibers have a lot more stopping power, but they should also be a viable option. A UMP, or MP-5 should be comparable to a higher caliber round at close range. I generally use SMGs myself for roleplay purposes, despite their shortcomings, and would absolutely love to see them be a much more viable option for close quarters engagements. Not only that, but it should be entirely viable for people to carry a Glock, or 1911 as an actual sidearm rather than purely a roleplay item. I believe someone mentioned it earlier in regards to executions, but people should absolutely not be surviving a point blank shot of 9mm, or .45 ACP to the back of an unprotected head.

In addition to this point I would personally enjoy seeing lower spawn rates of high caliber fully automatic rifles, and more spawns of firearms such as the MP-5, Vityaz, MP-7, and UMP-45.

Edited April 30, 2020 by Faebloom

[Malet]

Due to character reasons I currently only use a pistol and yes, while this I self-inflicted restriction I still feel that pistols are next to useless and the only way to use them effectively is by climbing a high ground and then pray that whatever tries to eat you runs out of life before you run out of ammo - got forbid that something can even shoot back because then you are royally fucked.

 

So +1, Make Small Caliber Great Again!

[Hofer]

I think this vote speaks for itself.

@Roland

[KorhaWB]

YES, please let me at least be able to use my Glock against infected. I'm carrying that thing 24/7, 7 days a week waiting for it to one day be usable. 

 

+9000

[Chewy]

1 minute ago, KorhaBB said:

YES, please let me at least be able to use my Glock against infected. I'm carrying that thing 24/7, 7 days a week waiting for it to one day be usable. 

I feel this on a spiritual level.

Buff the pistol calibers. Gives us more incentive to carry them instead of going straight for the military grade weapons. Plus it gives a bit of variety.

[Truemonkh]

I think one of the biggest factors in why there should be a rebalance is that being able to drop infected with a single headshot from any (or at least most) weapon would add to the "realism" of a "zombie apocalypse". I know that sounds stupid to say but for me it would really add to the immersion factor. Not quite sure how it works lore wise but the standard zombie we know from pop culture usually dies when the brain is destroyed, which even .22 is capable of.  

[Nonplayer]

Voted yes, it is absurd when it takes 2-3 shots straight to the head to gun down infected.

[Astraal]

Voted yes as right now pistols are just a fasion accessories.

[Banditier]

I have to vote yes, I've been trying out all the different pistols since I'm trying to be a more civilian character and they're literally useless against zombies, so I imagine they're equally as useless against players. Would love for them to be more than a fashion accessory.

[Elijah Johnson]

The old weapon damage mechanics before 0.62 were way better and more realistic than they are currently.

+1 for this return of the Scorpion

[Sm1ley]

Gotta vote yes here, pistols are literally useless. The only time I'm properly able to use them on zombies, is if I'm on a high ground and shooting zombies one by one.

[Taffinator]

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[Roland]

Working as intended, pistols cannot be made as effective as rifles, that would undermine the whole weapon tiering, rarity and progression. Recent testing showed that 2 headshots from pistols is enough to take them down, which is perfectly reasonable IMO.

[Para]

Pistols are supposed to be worse. Against other players it'll take several shots to take down armored players and they usually fall unconscious but it's doable. Against infected it takes a couple headshots which seems fine to me.