Possible Combat Logging

[Muse]

Server and location: Livonia, Topolin PD

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): Not sure, but maybe around 2/3AM (last night)

Your in game name: Viktor Wozniak

Names of allies involved: 

Name of suspect/s: 

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): 

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): 

 

Detailed description of the events: I met 3 guys in the gas station, they were friendly, until I found out how to jump in their friends base, I asked if this was a friendly settlement relating to them, they said it is, but they said it's not their business and wouldn't mind. Soon after, they started acting very sketchy, trying to use any incoherent reason for me to get out of there like, "hey Viktor, we found you a nice gun!" and such things, they were trying to bait me out of the base so they could initiate on me. Anyways, the background is not important, afterwards, they say the "owner" is coming to open the lock for me, when the owner actually manages to open the lock, it's when I realize he is actually the owner. I tell everyone to back off, but then, someone that I could never hear in the entire video (the entire video has 10 min though), "got in" the base somehow, and shot me dead, I double-checked the video, and could never hear a gate or a door opening. So in conclusion, my theory is that this guy got a discord message from his group, and as he logged of the server while inside the base in his last playtrough, he procedeed to log in the server, knowing my presence and hostility, with the only intent to kill me, in which is considered combat logging? I am not sure if logging IN the server is considered combat logging, but if it is, it's up for the staff to find out by the logs if he actually joined the server by that time in that place.

 

Edited April 25, 2020 by Muse
Time*

[Eddie]

Connection logs:

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04:07:31 | Player "Viktor Wozniak" is connected
05:32:01 | Player "Viktor Wozniak" has been disconnected

05:13:36 | Player "Cale Tan" is connected
05:14:05 | Player "Cale Tan" has been disconnected
05:16:01 | Player "Cale Tan" is connected
05:16:05 | Player "Cale Tan" has been disconnected
05:20:43 | Player "Cale Tan" is connected
05:42:05 | Player "Cale Tan" has been disconnected

Hit logs:

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05:31:47 | Player "Viktor Wozniak" (pos=<1494.0, 7395.2, 185.8>) hit by Player "Cale Tan" (pos=<1496.6, 7398.5, 184.2>) with B52 from 4.48567 meters 
05:31:48 | Player "Viktor Wozniak" (pos=<1494.9, 7395.0, 185.8>) hit by Player "Cale Tan" (pos=<1496.9, 7398.3, 184.1>) with B52 from 4.11124 meters 
05:31:48 | Player "Viktor Wozniak" (pos=<1495.4, 7395.2, 186.1>) hit by Player "Cale Tan" (pos=<1496.8, 7398.3, 184.1>) with B52 from 4.0012 meters 
05:31:48 | Player "Viktor Wozniak" (pos=<1495.4, 7395.2, 186.1>) hit by Player "Cale Tan" (pos=<1496.8, 7398.3, 184.1>) with B52 from 4.0012 meters 
05:31:48 | Player "Viktor Wozniak" (pos=<1495.4, 7395.2, 186.1>) hit by Player "Cale Tan" (pos=<1496.8, 7398.3, 184.1>) with B52 from 4.0012 meters 
05:31:48 | Player "Viktor Wozniak" (pos=<1495.4, 7395.2, 186.1>) hit by Player "Cale Tan" (pos=<1496.8, 7398.3, 184.1>) with B52 from 4.0012 meters 

Kill logs:

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05:31:48 | Player "Viktor Wozniak" (DEAD) (pos=<1495.4, 7395.2, 186.1>) killed by Player "Cale Tan" (pos=<1496.8, 7398.3, 184.1>) with B52 from 4.0012 meters 

Calling in the following people for their point of view as well as any un-edited video evidence they may have:

@Muse | Viktor Wozniak | OP

@CaleHP | Cale Tan | POSTED

Also @Muse, please provide the full video evidence you say you have.

[Muse]

The video capture replay is set at 10 min but for some reason the video has only 5 min

 

[CaleHP]

Hello! Thx for the submitted evidence, just wanna clarify. I was logging in because i heard of a change to how Chernarus and Livonia will work, so i came in to see whats up but got kicked off the game but after awhile of trying i got the message saying my character was not cleared to join the Livonia so i came on the website to fix it. After doing to, I finally managed to spawn in but lucky for me, something was happening in our base! (btw im not the owner) so i asked the few guys we know what was happening and they explained the situation to me. I was not worried because we don't keep good loot in the base, so me and some of the local boys came up with a plan to trick you into coming out, I acted as the one who broke in and they have me in gun point, How well that played out... you didn't know it was me because i changed my clothes like 3 times so at the end i came to open the gate for you to come out, you didn't want to so we said screw it we will either get you out our you're dead, so we initiated and what I said was true, you didn't have any guns as i looked over the small lip at the top so when you didn't want to come out, I came in and shot you. i think i understand where you are coming from but you were in the wrong place at the wrong time and i was in the best place at the best time. Topolin has way too many people living in it and we are all friends, thats why at least 7 people were there with me. I can't really name them because i don't remember (sry boyos) I don't have any video footage as i was just logging in to fix stuff. And I'm pretty sure that isn't "reverse combat logging" sorry for the inconvenience, if you did what you were told you'd probably went free with all the gear because we are all kind people but welp... ded.

Try making friends in the future instead of breaking into their bases... that really is not very smart, I understand the thirst for loot but sometimes its not worth it.

paraviddle#8680 here is my discord if you still wanna be friends, we can make some RP stuff up like me fixing you up from the 3 bullets in your skull and you not remembering anything, then we can be the best of friends till i maybe find out you are working for someone...... and i kill you again. Thx!!  

[Muse]

1 hour ago, CaleHP said:

Hello! Thx for the submitted evidence, just wanna clarify. I was logging in because i heard of a change to how Chernarus and Livonia will work, so i came in to see whats up but got kicked off the game but after awhile of trying i got the message saying my character was not cleared to join the Livonia so i came on the website to fix it. After doing to, I finally managed to spawn in but lucky for me, something was happening in our base! (btw im not the owner) so i asked the few guys we know what was happening and they explained the situation to me. I was not worried because we don't keep good loot in the base, so me and some of the local boys came up with a plan to trick you into coming out, I acted as the one who broke in and they have me in gun point, How well that played out... you didn't know it was me because i changed my clothes like 3 times so at the end i came to open the gate for you to come out, you didn't want to so we said screw it we will either get you out our you're dead, so we initiated and what I said was true, you didn't have any guns as i looked over the small lip at the top so when you didn't want to come out, I came in and shot you. i think i understand where you are coming from but you were in the wrong place at the wrong time and i was in the best place at the best time. Topolin has way too many people living in it and we are all friends, thats why at least 7 people were there with me. I can't really name them because i don't remember (sry boyos) I don't have any video footage as i was just logging in to fix stuff. And I'm pretty sure that isn't "reverse combat logging" sorry for the inconvenience, if you did what you were told you'd probably went free with all the gear because we are all kind people but welp... ded.

Try making friends in the future instead of breaking into their bases... that really is not very smart, I understand the thirst for loot but sometimes its not worth it.

paraviddle#8680 here is my discord if you still wanna be friends, we can make some RP stuff up like me fixing you up from the 3 bullets in your skull and you not remembering anything, then we can be the best of friends till i maybe find out you are working for someone...... and i kill you again. Thx!!  

It's not really thirst for loot if it is handed for free! But damn haha, from the very start when they were trying any excuse for me to get out (not very smart), I knew what was going on. It's up for the staff now to do what they have to do

Edited April 26, 2020 by Muse

[CaleHP]

19 minutes ago, Muse said:

It's not really thirst for loot if it is handed for free! But damn haha, from the very start when they were trying any excuse for me to get out (not very smart), I knew what was going on. It's up for the staff now to do what they have to do

Least we tried HAHA

[PublicVoodoo]

@CaleHP So you were not the one to say "Ok Viktor come out with your hands up"?

Also why did you log out at 05:42:05 just under 10 minutes from the death of the OP?

[CaleHP]

@Voodoo HI! Yes i did say "Yea I'm coming in" however i think i might have still been in whisper with the 2 bars which is my fault, but i think it was well established that he was supposed to get his hands up and come out but he declined so i went in to get my gun on him, I did get shot at so i killed him.

Yes I did log out just under 10 mins which I did accidentally since i had school, i forgot about the 30 Min rule but at the same time, there was no RP. No one was around so i locked up and got off DayZ. I do agree that it was irresponsible to log out that quick but i had to go for my online classes. It did not cross my mind at that point.

 

----- Posts merged by @Para -----

 

Actually i think him shooting at me is justified because i would have shot if i see someone flying at me so yea, all i did was shoot in instinct 

 

 

 

[Muse]

6 minutes ago, CaleHP said:

@Voodoo HI! Yes i did say "Yea I'm coming in" however i think i might have still been in whisper with the 2 bars which is my fault, but i think it was well established that he was supposed to get his hands up and come out but he declined so i went in to get my gun on him, I did get shot at so i killed him.

Yes I did log out just under 10 mins which I did accidentally since i had school, i forgot about the 30 Min rule but at the same time, there was no RP. No one was around so i locked up and got off DayZ. I do agree that it was irresponsible to log out that quick but i had to go for my online classes. It did not cross my mind at that point.

 

I still had the advantage if I could only hold the door with my beloved pump shotty, but apparently you digged a hole in the ground and got in xd, the "i'm coming in" was probably not appropriate since you were already in the building. Also the whisper is 1 bar and in the video I can hear someone saying "Alright we are coming in!". Someone may think I broke Fear RP, but I strongly disagree, since all I had to do was to hold the only entrance

 

 

 

Edited April 26, 2020 by Muse

[CaleHP]

and i guess i combat logged :0

5 hours ago, Muse said:

I still had the advantage if I could only hold the door with my beloved pump shotty, but apparently you digged a hole in the ground and got in xd, the "i'm coming in" was probably not appropriate since you were already in the building. Also the whisper is 1 bar, and in the video I can hear someone saying "Alright we are coming in!". Someone may think I broke Fear RP, but I strongly disagree, since all I had to do was to hold the only entrance

 

 

 

what do you disagree with may i ask?

----- Posts merged by @Para -----

5 hours ago, Muse said:

I still had the advantage if I could only hold the door with my beloved pump shotty, but apparently you digged a hole in the ground and got in xd, the "i'm coming in" was probably not appropriate since you were already in the building. Also the whisper is 1 bar and in the video I can hear someone saying "Alright we are coming in!". Someone may think I broke Fear RP, but I strongly disagree, since all I had to do was to hold the only entrance

 

 

 

yea no, you definitely didnt break fearRP..... i think

[Para]

@CaleHP could you please provide the names of any allies you had in this situation please?

Also could you please clarify what you mean by "it's our base but I am not the owner" . This is not very clear as to whether or not you occupy this base or not.

Also please tell us who it is in this video speaking. We would like to know who specifically initiated. Thank you.

[CaleHP]

@Para I've haven't got a clue of their names, I've only campfire RPed with them... I only know they are traders and are living round the area. What i meant was that i live in that base and its our group's base

[Eddie]

Calling in the following people to post their POV's and any provide any Unedited video evidence :

@Cptice | Max Henderson | POSTED

@Gaard | Levi Gaard | POSTED

@agak | Agak Cliff | POSTED

[Para]

@agak will be temporarily banned due to being on the forums since being called in and not responding, as well as going in game.

 

[agak]

@Para @Eddie

Hey Guys, appreciate everything you do, so this is my full POV, sorry it took a while but i was trying to remember everything, unfortunately i dont have video evidence as i dont usually record but i might start doing that.

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I was coming in from gliniska to toplin and was at the industrial area climbing a silo when i met Max, we ran up to the gas station where we met victor, we helped him as he was getting his arse bit off by zombies,  we talked a bit and we kinda RPed interrogating him as he had a bloody bandage on his arm, then we left off and ran to the police station (the base that was broken in) i ran around and lost sight of them checking for a sewing kit and when i ran back Victor some how jumped and got in to the base.

Max Henderson @Cptice ran up to me and told me victor jumped in the Coalition base and that we should inform them via radio as we are on good terms with them and they are allies, but we should help resolve the situation with no bloodshed by coaxing Victor out and capturing him, but we should not get him killed.

so we tried to coax him out, thats when @CaleHP showed up he came running from down the hill and Max took him to the side and informed him of the situation.

we tried to further coax victor out by with a plan to trick you into coming out, and acting as if @CaleHP was the one who broke in and that we had him on gun point, how ever you didnt want to RP it...i mean it could have been a great situation...instead you were ...loot hungry i marched @CaleHP up the hill at gunpoint then helped him get changed and gave him a cowboy hat i had in my bag and we came back and @CaleHP went to open the gate for you to come out, you didn't want to and threatened you said "Hey Cowboy, back off dont come in here" btw @CaleHP is the one wearing the cowboy hat i gave him,

@CaleHP initiated and @Cpticewas the one that told you to come out with your hands up, and i threw a smoke grenade after they initiated and you threatened back.

Basically what happend is you got into the base, we tried helping you by getting you out there and wanted to RP it all out, you didnt and wanted the Gear that was inside... a radio message was sent to the coalition, owners of the base, they came and tried to Rp a bit, you still didnt want to, he initiated and came in you shot first, and he took you out.

I presume you got a bit salty because you were easily killed and decided to make this report.

as @CaleHP said try making friends in the future instead of breaking into their bases... that really is not very smart, I understand the thirst for loot but sometimes its not worth it.

Also this could have been a great RP situation...of which you did not want to partake...ah well hope to see you again in game, just remember loot isn't every thing lol.

Just my opinion, but i don't think this really merits making a whole report about this.

[Inferno]

Thank you for posting your POV @agak, your temp has been lifted. Please do keep an eye out on the forums for any future callings or questions relating to either this report or any others.

[Muse]

@agak I just want to clarify some things, what i'm reporting here is not because i'm "salty" or anything, I mean, who cares about some damn rifled slugs right?xd. I'm reporting a guy for combat logging, and also what do you mean with "you didnt want to RP it"? It was clear and bright what you guys were doing there, I don't think even my little brother would fall for it... Anyways, I was a bit jumpy at the heat of the moment, u guys could have insisted a little bit more when you initiated instead of just "come out with your hands up" and just right after, rushing in.

[Para]

Being as @Cptice has been in game and on the forums since being called in he will be temporarily banned until he posts his full PoV.

Edi:t same goes for @Gaard. 

Temporary bans will be lifted once they have posted their POVs.

[Cptice]

@Para so what happened was victor jumped in the base the owner came up to me i informed him on what happened and that victor was in his base. i initiated  the owner unlocked the door ran in and shot him. i didn't hear any initiation on the owners part and me and him do not share kill rights.

Edited April 27, 2020 by Cptice

[Gaard]

I personally don't how much information on what happened before I walked up. 
I walked up and was told to try and convince the man inside to come out peacefully. While I was there one of the members of Coalition who had codes walked up to the gate and started unlocking it. After unlocking it the man inside realized that we were coming inside whether he liked it or not. So with no codelock on the second gate cale opened the gate, walked in, and absolutely bodied the man. 

@Para

[Eddie]

Thanks for posting your POV @Gaard, your temp ban has been removed. We will let you know if there's anything further that we need from you.

[Cptice]

Ok so my full pov is basically me and agak meet up in industrial Livonia on accident we chilled decided to go to gas station. there we met victor, to me victor seemed nice i was little weary because he sounded like some one i thought i knew but shortly after we cleared that all up he wasnt who i thought he was. we all head over to pd which the coalition has a base there and im friends with them. victor jumped into a window on the second floor me and agak tried to convince him to come out because one of the owners woke up and we also didnt appreciate him going in there the owner come over to me i fill him in i then initiate on victor telling him to come out with his hands up after the owner had opened the door. but then the owner rushed in and shot him and that part you saw in the video. 

[Muse]

6 minutes ago, Cptice said:

Ok so my full pov is basically me and agak meet up in industrial Livonia on accident we chilled decided to go to gas station. there we met victor, to me victor seemed nice i was little weary because he sounded like some one i thought i knew but shortly after we cleared that all up he wasnt who i thought he was. we all head over to pd which the coalition has a base there and im friends with them. victor jumped into a window on the second floor me and agak tried to convince him to come out because one of the owners woke up and we also didnt appreciate him going in there the owner come over to me i fill him in i then initiate on victor telling him to come out with his hands up after the owner had opened the door. but then the owner rushed in and shot him and that part you saw in the video. 

I mean like, I asked if there was a problem if i invade the base, they said no

[Cptice]

1 minute ago, Muse said:

I mean like, I asked if there was a problem if i invade the base, they said no

If i said no then i must not have understood what you had asked.

[CaleHP]

14 hours ago, Para said:

@CaleHP could you please provide the names of any allies you had in this situation please?

Also could you please clarify what you mean by "it's our base but I am not the owner" . This is not very clear as to whether or not you occupy this base or not.

Also please tell us who it is in this video speaking. We would like to know who specifically initiated. Thank you.

hello, sorry for the late respond... different timezones and all. The allies that I had in this situation has no official name if im correct. 

And what i meant by "it's our base but I am not the owner" is that i am a member of a group that lives in the base

 

@Muse Dude.... you are reporting me for combat logging onto the server?

"I am not sure if logging IN the server is considered combat logging, but if it is, it's up for the staff to find out by the logs if he actually joined the server by that time in that place." - Muse