Report Invalid/Unjustified kill

[Red5]

Server and location: In trees across the river from Brena

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 2020-03-03 02:30

Your in game name: Parker Jackson

Names of allies involved: N/A

Name of suspect/s: Unknown

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): N/A

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): N/A

Detailed description of the events: Got Chased through the woods by 3 guys, they never gave me an ultimatum ie: Stop OR you die. They said "hey why are you running, stop. I stopped, wanting to be left alone, i pulled my pistol out and aimed it saying "Please, Just leave me alone" and i was promptly shot in the head without further interaction.

[PublicVoodoo]

Connection Logs:

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01:50:12 | Player "Parker Jackson" is connected
-DEAD-

01:52:22 | Player "Bobby Slaughter" is connected
03:47:07 | Player "Bobby Slaughter" has been disconnected

00:35:33 | Player "Chuck Baldwin" is connected
03:39:42 | Player "Chuck Baldwin" has been disconnected

02:21:50 | Player "Micheal Lovington" is connected
03:40:00 | Player "Micheal Lovington" has been disconnected

 

Hit Logs:

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02:40:34 | Player "Parker Jackson" (pos=<9801.8, 12216, 215.2>)[HP: 72.5] hit by Player "Bobby Slaughter" (pos=<9803.9, 12218.5, 215.6>) into Torso(24) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_762x39) with PPSKN42 from 3.35859 meters 
02:40:34 | Player "Parker Jackson" (pos=<9801.8, 12216, 215.2>)[HP: 55.5] hit by Player "Chuck Baldwin" (pos=<9800.9, 12207.4, 214.7>) into Torso(14) for 17 damage (Bullet_12GaugePellets) with MP-133 from 8.58632 meters 
02:40:34 | Player "Parker Jackson" (pos=<9801.8, 12216, 215.2>)[HP: 44.28] hit by Player "Chuck Baldwin" (pos=<9800.9, 12207.4, 214.7>) into LeftArm(18) for 34 damage (Bullet_12GaugePellets) with MP-133 from 8.58632 meters 
02:40:34 | Player "Parker Jackson" (pos=<9801.8, 12216, 215.2>)[HP: 27.28] hit by Player "Chuck Baldwin" (pos=<9800.9, 12207.4, 214.7>) into Torso(12) for 17 damage (Bullet_12GaugePellets) with MP-133 from 8.58632 meters 
02:40:34 | Player "Parker Jackson" (DEAD) (pos=<9801.8, 12216, 215.2>)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Chuck Baldwin" (pos=<9800.9, 12207.4, 214.7>) into Torso(15) for 34 damage (Bullet_12GaugePellets) with MP-133 from 8.58632 meters 
02:40:34 | Player "Parker Jackson" (DEAD) (pos=<9801.8, 12216, 215.2>)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Chuck Baldwin" (pos=<9800.9, 12207.4, 214.7>) into Torso(12) for 34 damage (Bullet_12GaugePellets) with MP-133 from 8.58632 meters 
02:40:35 | Player "Parker Jackson" (DEAD) (pos=<9801.8, 12216, 215.2>)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Bobby Slaughter" (pos=<9803.8, 12218.2, 215.6>) into Torso(1) for 55 damage (Bullet_762x39) with PPSKN42 from 3.09253 meters 
02:40:35 | Player "Parker Jackson" (DEAD) (pos=<9801.8, 12216, 215.2>)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Bobby Slaughter" (pos=<9803.9, 12218, 215.6>) into Torso(25) for 55 damage (Bullet_762x39) with PPSKN42 from 2.95301 meters 
02:40:35 | Player "Parker Jackson" (DEAD) (pos=<9801.8, 12216, 215.2>)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Bobby Slaughter" (pos=<9804.0, 12217.8, 215.6>) into Torso(25) for 55 damage (Bullet_762x39) with PPSKN42 from 2.96431 meters 
02:40:35 | Player "Parker Jackson" (DEAD) (pos=<9801.8, 12216, 215.2>)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Bobby Slaughter" (pos=<9804.2, 12217.7, 215.7>) into Torso(1) for 55 damage (Bullet_762x39) with PPSKN42 from 3.01032 meters 
02:40:35 | Player "Parker Jackson" (DEAD) (pos=<9801.8, 12216, 215.2>)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Bobby Slaughter" (pos=<9804.4, 12217.5, 215.7>) into Torso(25) for 55 damage (Bullet_762x39) with PPSKN42 from 3.06467 meters 
02:40:35 | Player "Parker Jackson" (DEAD) (pos=<9801.8, 12216, 215.2>)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Bobby Slaughter" (pos=<9804.6, 12217.3, 215.7>) into RightArm(17) for 55 damage (Bullet_762x39) with PPSKN42 from 3.13248 meters 
02:40:35 | Player "Parker Jackson" (DEAD) (pos=<9801.8, 12216, 215.2>)[HP: 0] hit by Player "Bobby Slaughter" (pos=<9804.6, 12217.3, 215.7>) into RightHand(47) for 55 damage (Bullet_762x39) with PPSKN42 from 3.13248 meters 

 

Kill Logs:

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02:40:34 | Player "Parker Jackson" (DEAD) (pos=<9801.8, 12216, 215.2>) killed by Player "Chuck Baldwin" (pos=<9800.9, 12207.4, 214.7>) with MP-133 from 8.58632 meters 

 

Calling in to post PoV's:

@Red5 | Parker Jackson | POSTED
@Bobby | Bobby Slaughter | POSTED
@Dew | Chuck Baldwin | POSTED
@Shroud | Micheal Lovington | POSTED

Please post a FULL and DETAILED POV and any VIDEO EVIDENCE you have

@Red5 did the guys chasing you have weapons out and aimed at you?

@Dew and @Bobby who was the third person in your group?

[Dew]

Big C pov: I ran into OP outside Grabin, he was RPing with someone but as I approached he hid inside a bush for some reason. I called it out and he proceeded to come out of the bush and we made small talk but something seemed off. He had the same exact gear set as a guy I ran into before. I asked if I had met him before, he replied no. I told him I ran into a nice guy outside soup kitchen who had the same exact gear set. He got nervous and ran away, me and my compadres gave chase. We suspected that he robbed the nice guy I ran into and that's why he was running because I called him out for it. @Shroud was the third person, and he caught up to him but played stupid saying that @Bobby and I were chasing him. OP believed Shroud so they both tried hiding in a bush but I spotted him, I raised my gun and told him to stop running from us, which he then turned and ran, straight up not complying with my demands, I gave chase again continuously yelling at him to stop running, He then stopped hid behind a hay bale and then raised his pistol and initiated on me, so I shot him.

[Bobby]

Bobby Slaughter POV: I was on yellow health from zombies so I was not there when @Dew was talking with him on the road. I finally heal up around the time that @Red5 ran away. @Shroud caught up to him and hid inside a couple bushes, Thats when Dewski spotted them and he raised his gun and initiated on him telling him to stop running. @Red5 then started running again, We told him again to stop running from us and he then got behind a hay bale, and pulled out his pistol initiated and was aiming at Dewski so he was killed.

[PublicVoodoo]

Calling in @Shroud to give a POV

[ShroudKN]

Shroud POV: I was vibing out with Dew talking to some dude on the road, the guy ended up running away and i caught up to him and as he hid i sat next to him and Dew and Bobby caught up, the guy started running again so dew told him to stop and raised his gun, the dude then dipped behind a hay bale pulled out his pistol and initiated so he got killed.

Edited March 3, 2020 by Shroud
Hay Bale

[Red5]

Holding a pistol is not initiation. You never initiated on me, it was RDM.

Edited March 4, 2020 by Red5

[Peril]

@Red5, to your recollection, when @Dew instructed you to stop running, was he holding a gun?

[Dew]

3 hours ago, Red5 said:

Holding a pistol is not initiation. You never initiated on me, it was RDM.

You aimed it at me and made a demand, that is an initiation. You even mention it above in your POV "i pulled my pistol out and aimed it"

Either way you still were not complying to my initiation by continuing to run, and then clear signs of non compliance when you aimed your gun at me.

Edited March 4, 2020 by Dew

[Scarlett]

Verdict:

@Dew - Invalid Kill (Roleplayed) – NOT GUILTY

 

Explanation:

In this situation, @Red5 is being chased by @Dew, @Bobbyand @Shroud through the woods due to them believing he had robbed a nice guy they had meet as @Red5 was wearing the exact gear the guy had originally had. When they eventually catch up to him @Red5 ignores their warning to stop until he hides and points the gun at them giving a demand. When that happens, he is immediately shot dead.   

 

@Red5 you confirm in your POV that you turned around and gave them a demand to leave you alone whilst pointing a gun at them. This is seen as you initiating on them and not complying with their demands giving @Dew rights to kill you. In future when another player catches up to you, a lot of people may chase someone to roleplay with them whether it is to initiate on someone and do some hostile roleplay or to roleplay with them that doesn’t lead to hostile roleplay. By turning around and pointing a gun with a demand you halted any roleplay you may have had.

As shown in the rules

3.1 You are required to role play your character at all times while in game. No OOC events or communication may take priority over your role play. You are not allowed to ignore other players attempts to role play with you.

As a final note, always prioritize roleplay, in future if you do not wish to die you can put your hands up and see where the storyline goes from there or stopping when asked to see what they had wanted. Running away and making no contact with the people who are clearly chasing you may be seen as avoiding roleplay.  

 

Outcome:

@Dew - Invalid Kill (Roleplayed) - No Action Taken.

 

Signed:  @Scarlett , @Inferno & @Eagles